Democracy Delivered: Brexit is Reality

[Manny]

I just watched the ITV Brexit night coverage and it was absolutely hilarious! I suspect Moby would have been more impartial with his analysis.

What an absolute bunch of weapons. They still don’t get it! 

All channels were the same, I had to watch Boris's speech online as the corrupt BBC and ITV didn't even cover it. Disgraceful. They were covering hand wringing by Remainers instead. If I were Boris I'd nullify the BBC licence fee on that alone. It should've been a celebration of British greatness with lots of this...



In our house, we had a firework at the crucial moment. One can hear Big Ben in the background.

Instead, the presenters all looked in pain interviewing nobodies about how awful Brexit is.

Where was the coverage of Boris and Big Nige at the crucial moment representing the majority? It wasn't there. Our media is a leftist farce, a complete sham and corrupt disgrace.

No wonder Trump does presidency by Twitter.

[Lord of the Dance]

I just watched the ITV Brexit night coverage and it was absolutely hilarious! I suspect Moby would have been more impartial with his analysis.

What an absolute bunch of weapons. They still don’t get it! 

All channels were the same, I had to watch Boris's speech online as the corrupt BBC and ITV didn't even cover it. Disgraceful. They were covering hand wringing by Remainers instead. If I were Boris I'd nullify the BBC licence fee on that alone. It should've been a celebration of British greatness with lots of this...



In our house, we had a firework at the crucial moment. One can hear Big Ben in the background.

Instead, the presenters all looked in pain interviewing nobodies about how awful Brexit is.

Where was the coverage of Boris and Big Nige at the crucial moment? It wasn't there. Our media is a complete sham and corrupt disgrace.

No wonder Trump does presidency by Twitter.

Nice shot!

Too bad about the media, but then again nothing we didn't already know.

I'm so happy for you folks today! 

[Contrarian]

I just watched the ITV Brexit night coverage and it was absolutely hilarious! I suspect Moby would have been more impartial with his analysis.

What an absolute bunch of weapons. They still don’t get it! 

All channels were the same, I had to watch Boris's speech online as the corrupt BBC and ITV didn't even cover it. Disgraceful. They were covering hand wringing by Remainers instead. If I were Boris I'd nullify the BBC licence fee on that alone. It should've been a celebration of British greatness with lots of this...



In our house, we had a firework at the crucial moment. One can hear Big Ben in the background.

Instead, the presenters all looked in pain interviewing nobodies about how awful Brexit is.

Where was the coverage of Boris and Big Nige at the crucial moment representing the majority? It wasn't there. Our media is a leftist farce, a complete sham and corrupt disgrace.

No wonder Trump does presidency by Twitter.

Yes, congratulations 🎈🍾🎊 are indeed in order!

It’s truly a shame your one-sided media didn’t properly cover this event.

I mentioned how DW was dishonest and didn’t properly cover Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes.

It really is disrespectful to the majority of the British people. I won’t bother mentioning who owns the media but there it is. They believe they know better than the common man.

Trump is far from perfect but this event I’m sure helps you understand why he gets huge crowds.

Congratulations again and I truly hope that both Europe and the USA will continue to fight against globalization and for national sovereignty.

[Guile]

Where's your tears from Brexit wahhh wahhh

[Dogsoldier]

Congratulations to all who believed in Brexit and democracy.
The majority view eventually prevailed as should have happened 3.5 years ago.
Happy Days.

To the Mobys of the world, go and wallow in your misery, nobody cares.
You could have accepted the verdict of a democratic vote gracefully. Instead there was hate mongering, insults, sneers and more, heaped on those whose opinions and views differed from yours.
Now it’s  time for you to f**k off to your Eeeeewwww paradise.

[rosco]

Congratulations to all who believed in Brexit and democracy.
The majority view eventually prevailed as should have happened 3.5 years ago.
Happy Days.

To the Mobys of the world, go and wallow in your misery, nobody cares.
You could have accepted the verdict of a democratic vote gracefully. Instead there was hate mongering, insults, sneers and more, heaped on those whose opinions and views differed from yours.
Now it’s  time for you to f**k off to your Eeeeewwww paradise.

Well said that man! 

[Markje]

godspeed guys. we are still stuck with : https://mobile.twitter.com/truckerworld/status/1222561917790773249?s=21&fbclid=IwAR3CoPktzqDWMvI9UDmS1CKaMy7LtN9vlZtUD0OmFI4mq_iTl5137tDeEZ4

[Guile]

Finally Britain left...after 3 years and 3 PM's lol

[andrewfi]

While noting that currency fluctuations are only a transient matter that indicates short term sentiment rather than indicating anything about longer term matters and that longer term trends are more instructive about the state of an economy - the pound is up a significant amount against the euro right now. The increase started just before the British exit from the EU became a fact.

[rosco]

While noting that currency fluctuations are only a transient matter that indicates short term sentiment rather than indicating anything about longer term matters and that longer term trends are more instructive about the state of an economy - the pound is up a significant amount against the euro right now. The increase started just before the British exit from the EU became a fact.

If you were Moby, you would claim this to be solid fact, supporting any random claim you then made. 

Common sense tells us that once the uncertainty has been removed I.e when the country moves on from manipulated stagnation, our currency along with investment and growth will hit an inflection point.

It’s pathetic when simpletons use short term fluctuations to try and prove/disprove something they don’t want to happen. My annoyance is curtailed though, just thinking about the emotional wreck the bloke must be, with all that has happened. 

[andrewfi]

Yes I wrote the disclaimer specifically because I did not want readers to be confused or misled by my observation.

It is almost certain that it was uncertainty that led to a short term depression in the value of sterling. That uncertainty is now removed. I expect that the pound will remain at a higher level for some time. Of course, the 'real' negotiations about our exit now begin and so uncertainty will again increase. However, that effect will also impact the Euro so the key pair to consider will be £:$.

The real interest will be the trend over the next couple of years. Anyway, I am happy to accept a decrease in the real cost of living in my life. £:€ at 1:1.25 would make me quite happy.

[Contrarian]

godspeed guys. we are still stuck with : https://mobile.twitter.com/truckerworld/status/1222561917790773249?s=21&fbclid=IwAR3CoPktzqDWMvI9UDmS1CKaMy7LtN9vlZtUD0OmFI4mq_iTl5137tDeEZ4

Scary! Almost a spitting image of Hitler! 

[msmoby]

Why did I guess someone would claim the GBP being 1 to 1.19 was a cause for 'celebration'..?



What was it before the Referendum ?


https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=5Y

1 to 1.44

GBP v USD ... ?

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=USD&view=5Y

'Whoopee' - it's 1 to 1.31 ...

It was nearly 1 to 1.59



So, will there be an 'andrewfi' - style 'excuse' - "we need a weaker GBP" ? 

[msmoby]

Where's your tears from Brexit wahhh wahhh

That might happen on 31st December - as 'UK PLC' is still adhering to EU norms ....

I'm still wondering how the missus' will be 'claiming UK benefits' from Thailand ....   clue she won't - but such is the accuracy of  honest folk

[Guile]

Moby wahhhh, wannna pacifier?

[andrewfi]

Moby, why are you continually dishonest? Go read my post.

Nobody knows the future, but even you can see an upward trend. Brexit is clearly an inflexion point where the pound breaks out higher. Of course, that's not good for all of us, but for some, it is. In fact, we can see the upward break started on 12th August 2019 just a few days after Boris Johnson became the leader of the Conservative party in the UK. Interestingly, the climb of the pound to the heights noted by moby started at the time of David Cameron's election pledge to a referendum on leaving the EU.

What can be seen with the benefit of hindsight is that the pound increases in value against the Euro when sentiment is toward leaving the EU and goes down when it seems that leaving might not happen.

Currency markets are based, in the short term, not upon economic fundamentals but upon traders sentiment. The sentiments are clear. Given that knowledge, I expect that sterling will fall against the Euro later in the year as we approach the self-imposed deadline for completion of exit negotiations and will rise once those negotiations end.

Economics is fun when one knows stuff!

https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=EUR&view=10Y

[msmoby]

Moby, why are you continually dishonest?

I realise you think repeating lies is 'smart' - but I'm afraid 2020 is going to be the year you realise that won't work any more

*I* know the future and knew the past .. The Pound did EXACTLY as I predicated .. losing 15-20 percent of it's value ..

When BoJo opens his gob for the domestic Gallery who still haven't wised up ... he simply roves my point ..  He creates instability and ties to blame the EU

The owners of the ports that operate Freight Ferries have already asked "who is paying", for the infrastructure for he deal he struck with the EU - whereby goods from N.Ireland HAVE to be checked to ensure they are not fro the EU  ..

[AvHdB]

ms, curious do you know the difference between a fan for the team that lost and a baby? The answer is the baby will eventually stop whining.

[msmoby]

ms, curious do you know the difference between a fan for the team that lost and a baby? The answer is the baby will eventually stop whining.

Poor 'ol AvHdb

Your analogy sucks as this is a league - not a cup game - and I am certain that  if I live another 15 years - you'll hope I don't remember your words

[d672]

  I seem to recall someone saying this, can't remember who...

  REALLY 'smart' to walk away from THE biggest trading bloc


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/28/britains-economy-set-boom-become-largest-europe-brexit/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb&fbclid=IwAR3H9o1TilIU1BNVqKzcPsu-OuZ8CQcAqGZ9gYo7g5rdwpHPekgWwx3m_ww

The public finances are on the mend, recording a healthy surplus in January on booming tax receipts. Employment is at record levels, with real wage growth at a two-year high. Despite a global slowdown, Britain expanded 1.4 per cent last year, recording just 4 per cent unemployment. Yet Germany and France are on the brink of recession, the Italian economy is contracting and eurozone joblessness is twice as high.

It’s precisely because Britain will thrive after Brexit that we attracted record foreign direct investment last year, beating the US, with only China attracting more. Even British start-ups raised almost £8 billion in venture capital during 2018 – some 70 per cent more than their French and Germany counterparts.


 Just knowing that Brexit was going through attracted foreign investment?? Yep, looks like the UK made a terrible mistake leaving the EU. 

 

 

[msmoby]

  I seem to recall someone saying this, can't remember who...

  REALLY 'smart' to walk away from THE biggest trading bloc

...nothing's changed ... 

BoJo open's his gob and the GBP falls ..

ALL that has 'improved was relief re uncertainty ... He re-introduced that

Swindon will lose Honda and Bridgend, Ford ... High salary jobs in the city are draining away to Dublin and mainland Europe ..

The worse has yet to come

[andrewfi]

Moby knows the future?
We gave a very special creature in our presence, a person who can do what nobody else can do - know the future.
He doesn't claim to predict the future, he KNOWS what the future will be.

Given that it is most unlikely that moby can actually know the future then he is either very, very, misled to a degree that in less enlightened times would've resulted in a long stay in a psychiatric care facility - or more likely he's making yet another dishonest claim.

Moby, try being honest - just once. 

[Contrarian]

Moby, why are you continually dishonest?

I realise you think repeating lies is 'smart' - but I'm afraid 2020 is going to be the year you realise that won't work any more

*I* know the future and knew the past .. The Pound did EXACTLY as I predicated .. losing 15-20 percent of it's value ..

When BoJo opens his gob for the domestic Gallery who still haven't wised up ... he simply roves my point ..  He creates instability and ties to blame the EU

The owners of the ports that operate Freight Ferries have already asked "who is paying", for the infrastructure for he deal he struck with the EU - whereby goods from N.Ireland HAVE to be checked to ensure they are not fro the EU  ..

Since you *know* the future, could you please tell me what the winning numbers for the Mega Millions will be this coming Tuesday?

[msmoby]

Moby knows the future?
We gave a very special creature in our presence, a person who can do what nobody else can do - know the future.
He doesn't claim to predict the future, he KNOWS what the future will be.

Given that it is most unlikely that moby can actually know the future then he is either very, very, misled to a degree that in less enlightened times would've resulted in a long stay in a psychiatric care facility - or more likely he's making yet another dishonest claim.

Moby, try being honest - just once. 

 

'Honest' andrewfi. the rouble has been going to recover since Spring 2014 ... [content removed as this topic isnt about me]

It will not take six years to prove I knew the future, better than you

Looking forward to BoJo expanding on his Australia 'deal' ...clue it's another BoJo fib

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/brexit-day-one-johnson-pledges-no-concessions-to-eu

What happened to the GBP after he opened his gob ..? 

[andrewfi]

In honour of moby's newly proclaimed talent for 'knowing' the future, I'd like to suggest that this person be referred to as Mystic Moby. 

For our colonial cousins, in the UK we have a well known charlatan who, like moby, claims to know the future. Her name is Mystic Meg.
Mystic Meg has been doing the charlatan thing for even longer than moby. She could be his old mum.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic_Meg