Coronavirus

[BillyB]

Actually, what the government should do is pay all covid medical costs for those that get vaccinated

Government shouldn't waste money on a weak and dangerous vaccine that harms people, kills people, makes people more easily infected and creates mutants that can defeat the vaccine. This whole thing can explode leading to depopulation. There has never been a successful vaccine created for any Coronavirus and it's becoming clear why.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1495

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28128

No the vaccine does not kill the virus. It make you immune system recognize the virus so it will kill it sooner. The vaccine is gone from your body in a few days. It does not kill or stop anything.  It is even not there. GONE!!! What part of this do you not get!!!

Tex, you're not watching the interviews I supplied of leaders in the vaccine industry. I can't help you if you don't help yourself. I trust what they are saying over you, BC and Andrew. I don't expect you to trust what I say so that is why I provide you guys the experts so everybody here can make an 'informed' decision. I also showed you government documents that say significant risks and benefits are unknown. How you guys can promote benefits when they don't even know them is beyond me.

For those that were promised by the government that if you got vaccinated, you won't have to wear a mask, worry about lockdowns, and you'll get a normal life back, did the government keep their promises to you? Hell no because the vaccines they promoted didn't do what they said it was going to do. Either they lied or they don't understand what they're doing.

Here's Pelosi in Apr 2021 saying government can require anybody to be vaccinated. Another lie as they are trying to force government employees and our all volunteer military to get vaccinated.

https://t.me/LinWoodChannel/4270


Republican Senators released the redacted parts of Fauci's emails to prove he lied. Fauci did work with the Wuhan lab to create new and dangerous coronaviruses. Last year our medical experts and media lied about the origins of the virus. This year they lied about working on a bat coronavirus and the funding of it. People are dying and they are lying but you go ahead and keep worshipping their advice over others that care about your health.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-gop-senators-reveal-politicized-hhs-redacted-fauci-letter-hide-collaboration-dr-daszack-wuhan-lab/

[Texan77]

Look government made the statement with the best data they had a the time. The vaccine works well against the delta variant but still of those who become in contact with the virus 32 per cent of the people will still get it. The vast majority of the vaccinated who still get the delta variant will have no to mild symptoms. This variant differs from the past variants in that it is more likely to spread from a person who has the vaccine than other variants. This reduces our effective vaccination rate to only 34 per cent from the 50 per cent we vaccinated. To kill the virus we need an effective vaccine rate of about 70 per cent. To get it we will need to vaccinate nearly 100 per cent of the population. It is not going to happen so we are in trouble. So now they considering more measures. Remember Israel?

Most viruses become more infectious with new variants and milder over time and kill less people. This one is evolving to where it is becomes more infectious over time but it has a higher kill rate. Most virus build up a heard immunity until they run out of host. This one has found away around that.

Their is one variant that natural immunity will never be reached without vaccine. As after getting it you can catch it again in every 60 days. The vaccine stops it. We humans are in for more serious trouble than I think we understand.

What makes this virus so dangerous is that it has infected so many people at the same time it has more chances to create many variants. It was made to start off with being maybe one of the worlds most contagious pathogens. It has infected maybe a billion people many of whom do not know they have it and they can become carriers where the virus has a huge chance to form new variants that are even more infectious than the last and in time able to over come any from of immunity.

Yes the so called experts have more depth of understanding than I have but I feel we are dealing with something here they have never seen. I am thinking there are no real experts. Mask, distancing and vaccines are the only weapons they have.

The fact we humans do not work together is taking a really bad epidemic and making it worse. Government are inefficient at their best but they are trying their best. No government wants to population to die off.

I am not predicting this but we could get a variant who could go around the planet in a few weeks and kill off 25 per cent of the population. Look at some of Covid-19 sister pathogens and what their kill rates were. I believe cov-sar1 had a 10 per cent kill rate. I am going by memory here. This is nothing to play with.

[BC]

Texan77,

the vaccines do work for the purposes intended, and they work quite well.

Reduced virulence - check
Reduced hospitalizations - check
Reduced deaths - check

It was hoped vaccines would also reduce transmission, but this is not working with the Delta variant, that is much more transmissible, and seems to cause worse outcomes.

However, in combination with typical precautions like masking in crowded/enclosed spaces, social distancing and washing hands, infections can be reduced to much lower numbers.

In Italy(and some other countries), this is the case, vaccine + prudent measures are working very well so far.  Deaths trending towards single digits, and only 230 in ICUs.  Compare that with deaths in the hundreds, and more than ten thousand in intensive care in the US.  Daily vaccination figures here are about as good as it gets, with most of those that were initially reluctant catching up.  Some age brackets and those with serious health issues have simply run out of people to vaccinate, with near 100% participation.  Efforts now are on the youngest crowd, 12-40.  Vaccination was done strictly by age, health and service categories. Adjusting for population, the US is far worse off, driven by 30% of the elderly population still not vaccinated, and plenty of vulnerable folks as well and much larger numbers of folks that are hesitant for whatever reason, along with far too many that don't even take simple precautions.

Bottom line, vaccines work.  It's folks like BillyB that are the true problem.  He still touts the same debunked line like 'look at Italy', without considering the numbers and that the same time last year we came out of strict national lockdown, but maintained many measures like travel restrictions between regions, masking requirements etc and folks that for the most part complied, not like sheeple, but truly interested with not getting infected, or infecting others.

In the US, we as a whole are the root of our problem, essentially giving the virus free rein.

[Texan77]

Yes BC the vaccines currently work at controlling the virus to some extent and are much better than no vaccine. Our vaccinate rate is still way too low to control the current break out. Sadly near half the worlds population is somewhat like Billy.

The good news is more people are seeing the reality better and getting the vaccine but on that front we have a long way to go.

Still what will the next variant bring? I believe most humans are not taking this disease seriously enough and do not see how this could get really bad.  I was looking at a video where a congressman was complaining that he is really mad because he is going to have to wear a mask in congress. It is only a mask but that is too much to help control the virus.  The people of the USA and the rest of the world are going to need to get serious and work together to control this or it is not going to happen.

I do not know why the governments are not funding boosters? It is obvious we are going to need them.

[BC]

Still what will the next variant bring?

Maybe a more dangerous variant, or a less dangerous variant.  Nobody knows.

But, even this one we are dealing with now can be managed well.  If we want to. 

[Texan77]

I am reading today that 70 per cent of the country has had at least one dose. I knew we had over 60 per cent with at least one dose but I did not know we were doing that well. So hopefully the twenty percent with only one does will be getting the second does in the next thirty days. It is still not enough but it is better.

[yankee]

Actually, what the government should do is pay all covid medical costs for those that get vaccinated

Government shouldn't waste money on a weak and dangerous vaccine that harms people, kills people, makes people more easily infected and creates mutants that can defeat the vaccine. This whole thing can explode leading to depopulation. There has never been a successful vaccine created for any Coronavirus and it's becoming clear why.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1495

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28128

No the vaccine does not kill the virus. It make you immune system recognize the virus so it will kill it sooner. The vaccine is gone from your body in a few days. It does not kill or stop anything.  It is even not there. GONE!!! What part of this do you not get!!!

Tex, you're not watching the interviews I supplied of leaders in the vaccine industry. I can't help you if you don't help yourself. I trust what they are saying over you, BC and Andrew. I don't expect you to trust what I say so that is why I provide you guys the experts so everybody here can make an 'informed' decision. I also showed you government documents that say significant risks and benefits are unknown. How you guys can promote benefits when they don't even know them is beyond me.

For those that were promised by the government that if you got vaccinated, you won't have to wear a mask, worry about lockdowns, and you'll get a normal life back, did the government keep their promises to you? Hell no because the vaccines they promoted didn't do what they said it was going to do. Either they lied or they don't understand what they're doing.

Here's Pelosi in Apr 2021 saying government can require anybody to be vaccinated. Another lie as they are trying to force government employees and our all volunteer military to get vaccinated.

https://t.me/LinWoodChannel/4270


Republican Senators released the redacted parts of Fauci's emails to prove he lied. Fauci did work with the Wuhan lab to create new and dangerous coronaviruses. Last year our medical experts and media lied about the origins of the virus. This year they lied about working on a bat coronavirus and the funding of it. People are dying and they are lying but you go ahead and keep worshipping their advice over others that care about your health.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-gop-senators-reveal-politicized-hhs-redacted-fauci-letter-hide-collaboration-dr-daszack-wuhan-lab/

Billy,  if you are going to quote  someone Please use the entire quote if possible.  The way you have used my quote completely distorts what I was saying.

[BillyB]

Yes BC the vaccines currently work at controlling the virus to some extent and are much better than no vaccine.

The government fine print says significant risks and benefits are unknown. How you can claim we are benefiting is beyond me. A depoplulation event may happen. We won't know till later but it is an unknown risk they KNOW can happen. The current vaccines aren't giving people immunity and isn't killing the virus so the virus is allowed to live in our bodies and learn to defeat the vaccine induced defenses in what is now 2 billion human petri dishes.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~OWID_WRL


Government put out this creepy video that threatens businesses they won't do business with government and health workers, last years heroes, to be fired if they don't get vaccinated. You won't see this on tv but it's a clear sign government wants more control over your body and life. When the world learned Nazi Germany was experimenting on people in camps by injecting experimental vaccines and drugs people's bodies, the world was horrified. Now they not only figured out how to get people to happily take experimental drugs and vaccines but promote it as a good thing!

https://t.me/disclosetv/3797


Social media bots putting out propaganda better than humans can. Seen a lot of it. Here's a sample.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28317


5 time World fitness champion dies age 65 a week after taking his third vaccine.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28314


WHO changes definition of 'herd immunity'. Before, the definition was herd immunity could be achieved by vaccines and/or natural immunity but now they say it can only be achieve by vaccines. They are lying. Humans have acquired herd immunity from many pathogens long before vaccines were invented 100 years ago. If we never were able to acquire heard immunity, we'd be extinct.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1503


NY Gov Cuomo who won an award for his handling of the pandemic after ordering COVID infected elderly into old folks home killing 10's of thousands of them artificially inflating COVID deaths is asking private businesses to refuse service to the unvaccinated. You guys understand there was never a successful vaccine created to defeat any coronavirus in the human body in history and the thought of them pulling a good one out of their asses in 6 months was highly unlikely. That means the pandemic will never end. The virus will be with us forever and humans will receive multiple injections of experimental vaccines every year forever. We need to let our own natural immune systems figure it out. At this pace, government wants to restrict rights to people unless they adopt the government approved program.

https://t.me/disclosetv/3789


Government memo leaks saying the carrot isn't working anymore to convince Americans to get vaccinated so it's time to use the stick.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/26929


Former commissioner of the FDA says the FDA is more about protecting big pharma more than people. But go ahead and believe everybody in government has your best interest.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1500


People in Europe mass protesting against restrictions, vaccine passports and lockdowns. Some getting beat up by cops. I see a lot of nations turning into police states at this pace.

https://t.me/disclosetv/3784

https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/upost/911456/free-video-brave-german-cops-beat-shit-out-of-11-year-old

https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/upost/911453/just-like-people-aren-t-accepting-the-covid-media-fraud-they-also-aren-t-accepting-the-elect

[BC]

The government fine print says significant risks and benefits are unknown. How you can claim we are benefiting is beyond me. A depoplulation event may happen. We won't know till later but it is an unknown risk they KNOW can happen. The current vaccines aren't giving people immunity and isn't killing the virus so the virus is allowed to live in our bodies and learn to defeat the vaccine induced defenses in what is now 2 billion human petri dishes.

Here is the fine print:

FDA is conducting intensive monitoring of COVID-19 vaccine safety in the U.S. using a variety of approaches. Based on available information, FDA strongly believes that the known and potential benefits of COVID-19 vaccination greatly outweigh the known and potential risks of COVID-19.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/covid-19-vaccine-safety-surveillance

Government put out this creepy video that threatens businesses they won't do business with government and health workers, last years heroes, to be fired if they don't get vaccinated. You won't see this on tv but it's a clear sign government wants more control over your body and life. When the world learned Nazi Germany was experimenting on people in camps by injecting experimental vaccines and drugs people's bodies, the world was horrified. Now they not only figured out how to get people to happily take experimental drugs and vaccines but promote it as a good thing!

https://t.me/disclosetv/3797

And?  What's 'creepy' about that?  What is creepy is you comparing your government to Nazi atrocities.

Social media bots putting out propaganda better than humans can. Seen a lot of it. Here's a sample.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28317

And what do you interpret from this? What's worse than a computer bot?  A human bot.  You prove this well.

5 time World fitness champion dies age 65 a week after taking his third vaccine.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28314

Most folks who get heart attacks do die.  Again, what's your point?

WHO changes definition of 'herd immunity'. Before, the definition was herd immunity could be achieved by vaccines and/or natural immunity but now they say it can only be achieve by vaccines. They are lying. Humans have acquired herd immunity from many pathogens long before vaccines were invented 100 years ago. If we never were able to acquire heard immunity, we'd be extinct.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1503

Funny... a 'lawyer' who doesn't read the fine print linked in the WHO post.  Here it is:

https://www.who.int/director-general/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---12-october-2020

NY Gov Cuomo who won an award for his handling of the pandemic after ordering COVID infected elderly into old folks home killing 10's of thousands of them artificially inflating COVID deaths is asking private businesses to refuse service to the unvaccinated. You guys understand there was never a successful vaccine created to defeat any coronavirus in the human body in history and the thought of them pulling a good one out of their asses in 6 months was highly unlikely. That means the pandemic will never end. The virus will be with us forever and humans will receive multiple injections of experimental vaccines every year forever. We need to let our own natural immune systems figure it out. At this pace, government wants to restrict rights to people unless they adopt the government approved program.

https://t.me/disclosetv/3789

Our immune systems are figuring it out, with the assistance of vaccines.  Vaccines are great and very effective teachers.

Government memo leaks saying the carrot isn't working anymore to convince Americans to get vaccinated so it's time to use the stick.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/26929

And? What's wrong with that?

Former commissioner of the FDA says the FDA is more about protecting big pharma more than people. But go ahead and believe everybody in government has your best interest.

https://t.me/SidneyPowell/1500

That's the way it was back in the 1960s.  He fought for improvements within the FDA and seems to a large extent those improvements worked.

People in Europe mass protesting against restrictions, vaccine passports and lockdowns. Some getting beat up by cops. I see a lot of nations turning into police states at this pace.

https://t.me/disclosetv/3784

define 'mass protesting'.  We're not talking huge numbers.  Most folks over here support the restrictions.

https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/upost/911456/free-video-brave-german-cops-beat-shit-out-of-11-year-old

https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/upost/911453/just-like-people-aren-t-accepting-the-covid-media-fraud-they-also-aren-t-accepting-the-elect

More BillyBot bottom of barrel scraping.

[BC]

Government put out this creepy video that threatens businesses they won't do business with government and health workers, last years heroes, to be fired if they don't get vaccinated. You won't see this on tv but it's a clear sign government wants more control over your body and life. When the world learned Nazi Germany was experimenting on people in camps by injecting experimental vaccines and drugs people's bodies, the world was horrified. Now they not only figured out how to get people to happily take experimental drugs and vaccines but promote it as a good thing!

Oh and BTW, seems health insurance companies will be making adjustments for those that are not vaccinated.  I doubt they will be giving discounts, but instead raising rates, or even excluding COVID coverage.

At the moment, the government you seem to despise so much covers most COVID related costs, even for those that are unvaccinated.  There will come a time when that will stop as well.  Makes no sense for the government to pay for the stupidity of those making bad choices.

Being stupid is not a right and carries consequences.

[AvHdB]

BC thank you for countering the postings of BillyB. It gives hope that there are still sane people amongst us.

 

[BillyB]

More protests and beatings in Europe. You guys have it in your heads that government has your best interest in mind. Some people in government think there's too many people in the world so depopulation and abortion are good things. Others love big government and control. They see opportunity here. They'll tell you that they want to save your life so everybody, including those with natural immunity, no exceptions, must take an experimental vaccine and get a vaccine passport. Although they claim they care about your health, if you don't comply, they will force you out of a job, won't let you travel and won't let you shop for food. Should you attempt to make an informed decision that they don't like, they will make you penniless and your life miserable, if you don't die from starvation first. They don't sound very caring if you ask me. Hitler would be proud of them. They told you that we will go back to normal lives if you took the vaccine. They lied. They know the sheeple have short term memories.

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1421761180314468364



Check out Biden. He doesn't wear a mask and the people around him don't mask up. Politicians aren't afraid of the virus. Why are you guys afraid? Biden grabs the hand of a boy and gives him his nasty virus infected mask as a souvenir.

https://t.me/realx22report/3290


Last year Dean of Baylor medical university, a top 20 medical university, told Congress the type of vaccines needed for viruses that cause respiratory diseases have repeatedly failed. They've known since the 60's the damage they do to animals. Also founder of mRNA reminds us vaccinologists worst fears are happening with the current vaccines. Keep in mind, experts warned governments last year the vaccines they seek had a history of failure based on what happened to animals. Very little animal testing done with the current vaccines. When this is over, direct your anger to the appropriate people.

https://banned.video/watch?id=6108785cebbfdc2563240e70


I put this UK report out a couple of months ago. Here is the latest July 23 report. Out of 460 people dying, 289 vaccinated dead and 165 unvaccinated dead. Report to report, the ratio isn't changing. A vaccine that allows a person to catch the virus they're vaccinated against. We shouldn't be calling it a vaccine anymore. Check out every major European nation. Some like Italy and UK have 100 times more infections this summer over last when a vaccine didn't exist. Maybe some of you can spin this data as a good thing? Deaths are following infections. Again, more this summer than last when vaccines didn't exist.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf

[notpuskhin2013]

BillyB,

Are you INSANE ?

Vaccines have varying success rates and NO-ONE who produces them is saying if you have the recommended doses, that you are 100 percent safe ..


Sadly, I cannot prove the point, other than to ask you to look at the case rate v death rate for this wave in the UK v the previous ones were testing rates were efficient.


Are we getting the same rate of hospital cases, ITU admissions or deaths .. NO WAY


The case rates are MUCH higher in those NOT yet vaccinated.. the young


Take my Mum's age range..


Before being double jabbed nursing homes were a death trap ..  NO WAY was I letting my mother go into one


Now ?  There have been ZERO cases in her home and they allow visitors inside the home ( with a Lateral Flow Test ( showing negative) and proof of being double jabbed


The big risk to the UK is a new variant of the Beta variant ( first discovered in S.Africa) .. THAT is why we will probably have a THIRD jab in the Autumn.


As ever, picking a single stat  is misleading and makes you look silly.

[BillyB]

Government memo leaks saying the carrot isn't working anymore to convince Americans to get vaccinated so it's time to use the stick.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/26929

And? What's wrong with that?

Earlier you told people on the forum you respect their decision to not get the jab. Truth is you support a government that will make people's lives miserable which included starvation if they don't comply. You should apply for a government position. They need more people like you. When it's time the government say children needs the jab so we can get to herd immunity, will you support the government taking kids away from parents that don't comply? How big a stick should they use on people?

Take my Mum's age range..

Before being double jabbed nursing homes were a death trap ..  NO WAY was I letting my mother go into one

Last year before the election we have 5 Democratic governors that sent COVID infected elderly into nursing homes killing 10's of thousands and inflating death toll numbers to make the virus seem deadlier than it actually was. It's common sense you don't send sick people into nursing homes yet they did it anyway and won't face any consequences.

As for the other stuff you mention, you'll have to read this thread to understand what experts are saying. They warned the government that the vaccines won't work and can compromise people's immune systems that lead to early death and depopulation. Some will say we had some success with the vaccine on the original virus but beyond that, it's a failure. In America, 93% of the infections are from the Delta variant. In one region here and in a few nations, they say 74% of the infections are among those that are vaccinated. Unvaccinated people are not getting infected as easy. Why? Probably because our immune systems aren't compromised allowing us to get infected from pathogens as easily.

Seriously, read some of the links I posted from experts if you care about your health. You need to understand the government is pushing a vaccine that doesn't work and you will be part of an endless cycle of jabs with experimental vaccines. There's never been a cure for any coronavirus in history. There still isn't. They lied to you when they said we can achieve herd immunity with the vaccines. How many times will you let them lie to you before you learn they lie?


Funny thing is the proposed booster shot they're going to give people now isn't designed for the Delta variant. They are creating all new vaccines for the variant but they probably ask you to take two jabs of that recipe before Winter. It's possible some people will be getting 5 jabs of experimental vaccines in less than a year. Soon they'll be supplying you with a handy app that tells you when it's time to get your next jab. Miss the appointment and they'll revoke your vaccine card denying you privileges.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cdc-delta-variant-accounts-for-93-percent-of-all-infections/ar-AAMW2AE?ocid=msedgntp


“Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”

(Henry Kissinger, at the 1991 Bilderberger Conference held in Evians, France. 1991.)

[andrewfi]

Billy, do you really think that the current vaccines do not work? That the effect of being vaccinated is the same as not being vaccinated?

You need to understand the government is pushing a vaccine that doesn't work and you will be part of an endless cycle of jabs with experimental vaccines.

Billykins in his year of madness 2021

Not even the nuttiest of nutters is honestly making that claim and, well, the empirical evidence tells anyone who can read the opposite.

Billy, if you're going to be the forum lunatic then at least try. Even lunatics tend to recognise elements of the real world.

Oh, well done for falling down the rabbit hole of vaccinated people getting infected. You have rendered me the 21st-century version of Nostradamus -except that I am real and I can actually foretell the future!

If you could do even rudimentary maths you'd understand what is going on. Can we blame the US education system or was the damage done, as I have long suspected, before you even reached your promised land?

[BillyB]

I'm going to listen to my experts before you Andrew. You got educated by television. As far as being a nutter, you  think it's normal the media and politicians making public announcements that those who are unvaccinated shouldn't be allowed in stores to buy food or seed and tools to grow food. When vaccination for children is approved, you will think it's a good thing child protective services take children away from parents who refuse to put an experimental vaccine in their bodies. Why do you care anyway? You got no family to love and be responsible for their health.

We don't need passports and draconian laws for HIV, flus, colds, herpes, or other diseases. We certainly don't need passports and draconian laws for COVID which is only a little more dangerous than the flu.

Keep giving up your freedoms in exchange for the promise government will rescue you. You will get a few experimental vaccines every year. After you get used to it, maybe they'll change the program to a few vaccines every month or everyday. You're so programmed to agree with everything they say that you will still defend them if they adopt a jab everyday program. The leaders in this pandemic have no no clue how stop COVID yet they make promises they'll get us to herd immunity. Maybe they know it can't be stopped but might as well capitalize on it. The reason you're not seeing draconian laws dropped on you now is not because of you or the kindness of government but because of nutters like me who'd resist. Thank all those protestors on the streets for your current freedoms. Hopefully they'll continue to win. I think those supporting a government that is willing to starve people while claiming they are trying to save lives are the nutters.

Here is the UK chart for infections and deaths. Compare this summer and last summer and try and tell me vaccines are working. This is not a freak event happening only in the UK. It's the same in Spain, Italy, France, and Germany. In America, our summer outbreak is behind yours but it continues to go up.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

[BC]

I'm going to coin a new word for BillyB

Ignorerant

ig·nore·rant
/iɡˈnôr rant/
adjective

To knowingly ignore facts whilst ranting falsehoods and nonsense.
.

[andrewfi]

BC, a well coined term.

But does he ignore facts or does he lack the ability to understand? An inability to handle, or visualise the effect of simple numbers would lead to the spewed words that Billy shares with us. We know this is a problem for him.

I find myself conflicted.

[BC]

Andrew,

I try to give benefit of doubt, that he is ignoring facts purposefully and is not ignorant.  He uses the same deny, divert, discredit technique over and over, along with 'repeat till they believe it', often used by hard-core sales folks.  Get someone to agree to something, anything, even out of frustration, and you've got a sale.

Granted, he may well be drunk on his own snake oil.  If so, there is neither hope, nor cure. One can only try to warn others. 

Hmm...

[yankee]

I'm going to coin a new word for BillyB

Ignorerant

ig·nore·rant
/iɡˈnôr rant/
adjective

To knowingly ignore facts whilst ranting falsehoods and nonsense.
.

BC can you please tell me what dictionary you are using?  Or are you creating a new word by combining the words ignore and rant ??

[BC]

Hi yankee,

Sure!

coin verb
coined; coining; coins
Definition of coin (Entry 2 of 3)
transitive verb

1a: to make (a coin) especially by stamping : MINT
b: to convert (metal) into coins
2: CREATE, INVENT
coin a phrase

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/coin

[mhr7]

Granted, he may well be  is drunk on his own snake oil. There is neither hope, nor cure. One can only try to warn others. 

This is the case.

[BillyB]

Not only are experimental vaccines dangerous, a guy put out a video of being in a drive thru for COVID testing to show testing is dangerous too. He showed ingredients of the test they were going to give him. It contains ethylene oxide. NIH's Cancer dot gov is a good place to read about it. It causes cancer, damages our DNA, used as a pesticide and it sterilizes. This product can damage our reproductive organs and health. In this massive effort to 'save' humanity, we are given products that can prevent reproduction, hurt or kill us. If a person doesn't want the jab, companies and government will make them take a dangerous test once or twice a week. Jab or test, either option is dangerous.

https://t.me/IvanRaiklin/1594

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/substances/ethylene-oxide


12 of the 13 most vaccinated countries on earth are now listed as travel risks by the CDC. Vaccines are not suppressing the virus, they're advancing the spread and allowing for anti vaccine variants to emerge. Leading experts on vaccines warned this could happen last year yet the government decided to push vaccines on every healthy person in the world using a strategy that was never needed in other pandemics that we've successfully beaten. It's unfortunate this virus escaped or was released from a lab but we need to let our natural immune systems deal with it, learn and pass on these protections to future generations. The only people needing the jab are those that are at high risk of harm from COVID, the elderly and sick.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/12-13-vaccinated-countries-world-now-listed-cdc-travel-risk/


Another politician surrounded by people puts on mask only when the cameras are rolling. They think we are stupid.

https://t.me/WeTheMedia/28571


Harvard medical school professor censored on social media because he doesn't support lockdowns. The college dropouts working as fact checkers at big tech know what's best for you.

https://t.me/KanekoaTheGreat/1191


Fauci said today the level of Delta variant virus in a vaccinated person is the same as the level in an unvaccinated person. Fauci said the Delta variant changes the entire landscape. Yesterday they said 93% of the people in America has the Delta variant and a few days ago 74% of the people infected are vaccinated which means the unvaccinated accounts for only 26% of the infections. I guarantee you they will use more experimental vaccines to fight the anti vaccine variant. Go figure.

https://twitter.com/suzy1776/status/1423170791588388865?s=21


I don't follow Dr. Vladimir Zelenko but he did mention some of the leading doctors in the industry that I do follow so I read about an interview he just gave. Here's some of what he had to say.

-New data shows the viral titers are higher is vaccinated victims than in unvaccinated people

-This may mean the feared ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) has started. This is the worst nightmare scenario and fear of Dr. Luc Montaguier, Dr. Michael Yeadon, Dr. Delores Cahill, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr. Richard Malone, Dr. Joseph Mercola, and myself.

-This poses the greatest risk of genocide to the human race in the history of humanity

.-If you are vaccinated then consider yourself at higher risk to die from ADE then a 95 year old nursing home resident.

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Harvard medical school professor censored on social media because he doesn't support lockdowns. The college dropouts working as fact checkers at big tech know what's best for you.

https://t.me/KanekoaTheGreat/1191


Fauci said today the level of Delta variant virus in a vaccinated person is the same as the level in an unvaccinated person. Fauci said the Delta variant changes the entire landscape. Yesterday they said 93% of the people in America has the Delta variant and a few days ago 74% of the people infected are vaccinated which means the unvaccinated accounts for only 26% of the infections. I guarantee you they will use more experimental vaccines to fight the anti vaccine variant.


-This may mean the feared ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) has started. This is the worst nightmare scenario and fear of Dr. Luc Montaguier, Dr. Michael Yeadon, Dr. Delores Cahill, Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr. Richard Malone, Dr. Joseph Mercola, and myself.

Yes I must have ADE to a large scale. I have taken all kinds of vaccines for many years. This one is no more likely to produce it then any of the others. Above you are changing numbers. It not Fauci who is changing anything, it you. Depending which vaccine you are talking about the vaccine is about 70 per cent effective against the delta variant.  Pfizer is about effective 95 per cent in preventing serous disease if you get a break thru infection. Their are three code differences in the delta variant spike protein from the original and it causes the immune response to be slower towards this variant. Yes the virus is likely to produce more variants that are resistance to the vaccine. Also the virus would likely produce variants against that would re-infect people who already had the disease without a vaccine. What does not work is just let everyone catch it. That is proven!!

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Not only are experimental vaccines dangerous, a guy put out a video of being in a drive thru for COVID testing to show testing is dangerous too. He showed ingredients of the test they were going to give him. It contains ethylene oxide. NIH's Cancer dot gov is a good place to read about it. It causes cancer, damages our DNA, used as a pesticide and it sterilizes. This product can damage our reproductive organs and health. In this massive effort to 'save' humanity, we are given products that can prevent reproduction, hurt or kill us. If a person doesn't want the jab, companies and government will make them take a dangerous test once or twice a week. Jab or test, either option is dangerous.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-eo-swabs/fact-check-nasal-swabs-sterilised-with-ethylene-oxide-are-safe-to-use-the-sterilisation-process-is-tightly-regulated-by-international-standards-idUSL1N2LU1H0