The UK General Election

[Manny]

I called it in August. Moby said I was wrong.

A fast General Election is planned in the event of a no confidence vote or other sneaky move by the Remainacs. They would undoubtedly do a deal with Farage to not contest Tory seats but bring home some northern Labour ones. If they got a majority without the need for the DUP that'd be ideal. I think that quite possible. We might even see Farage in the cabinet by November.

Thursday, 12 December we have a General Election. Our friends over the pond may find it confusing so I'll simplify it.

The contenders are:

Jeremy Corbyn (Labour) - Socialist/Communist/Pinko
Nigel Farage (Brexit Party) - right leaning Brexit dude. 
Jo somebody, a so-called "Liberal Democrat" (Moby likes her, so that tells you all you need to know)
Boris Johnson (Conservative [Tory] - think Republican if a USAian)
Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National Party) - EU leaning irritating woman who will win in Scotland.
A collection of small and minority parties: Greens, Welsh, etc. Might get one of two seats in places nobody visits.

Prediction: Boris Johnson will win by a country mile.

Nigel farage has indeed done a deal not to stand a candidate in safe Tory seats. They will dilute the Labour vote to keep the communists away from power.

This will give Boris and the Tories another five years in power. That way we can get Brexit done without Moby and the Pinkos delaying it yet further. We'll dispense with the Northern Irish DUP (who the Tories are currently reliant on as May was weak and didn't win enough seats to have an outright majority).

Here's what will happen:

Boris will walk it and win. 
Labour will lose. 
We can dump the DUP. 
The Brexit Party will hopefully gain a few seats from Labour and be able to ensure the government does what it says it will re Brexit. 
If Farage does well, they'll waft him back in the Tory party and in the cabinet to castrate the Brexit Party ongoing.
The Liberal Democrats will win a handful of seats in places nobody goes to or cares about - and nobody will care. 
Scotland will mostly vote Scottish National Party as they vote for people they perceive to defend Scottish interests. 

Right afterwards, Moby and his pro-EU, Muslim apologist and transgender mates will be doing this. 

Naturally they'll be howling for recounts, referendums on anything they can dream up, changes to the electoral system, saying we didn't know what we were voting for, etc. The usual.

[Wiz]

Manny

Obviously you prefer Liars and offshore millionaires to run this country. People who have destroyed this great country and sold the Silver of the House.

I am sure that the Tories will sell our valuable and priceless NHS.

Do you know anything about The Human Genome Project


REM what happened when Thacher imposed the Poll tax?
I hope we will not have the same...........

I look forward, if your predictions are wrong, to see Moby's reaction and I would not be surprised if he takes the piss for your wrong predictions.

Personally, as you know, I have voted to "BREXIT" but now I don't know what and which party to vote. Whatever I vote it will make no different..... The Tory candidate will be re-elected.

Not sure If I will bother ....

 

[msmoby]

Manny, you WERE wrong..

1/ We are still in the EU ..

2/ Boris couldn't call for a G.election ..the combined opposition allowed one, when he couldn't change the date and try to take us out without a deal...


3/ He  didn't 'die in a ditch'  as promised

4/ Corbyn has proven to be ineffectual as an 'opposition leader' buy trying to appease norther Labour voters - who will vote for Boris and 'brexit' anyway ..

5/ Boris' deal would have been altered out of all recognition

6/ IF he get a majority - it will be interesting to see if he reneges on the 'deal' he got with the EU and tries to crash out out ..   

7/ I cannot BEAR to be in the UK and will be doing something FAR more important on the 12th   My Brother has my proxy

[Dogsoldier]

I called it in August. Moby said I was wrong.

A fast General Election is planned in the event of a no confidence vote or other sneaky move by the Remainacs. They would undoubtedly do a deal with Farage to not contest Tory seats but bring home some northern Labour ones. If they got a majority without the need for the DUP that'd be ideal. I think that quite possible. We might even see Farage in the cabinet by November.

Thursday, 12 December we have a General Election. Our friends over the pond may find it confusing so I'll simplify it.

The contenders are:

Jeremy Corbyn (Labour) - Socialist/Communist/Pinko
Nigel Farage (Brexit Party) - right leaning Brexit dude. 
Jo somebody, a so-called "Liberal Democrat" (Moby likes her, so that tells you all you need to know)
Boris Johnson (Conservative [Tory] - think Republican if a USAian)
Nicola Sturgeon (Scottish National Party) - EU leaning irritating woman who will win in Scotland.
A collection of small and minority parties: Greens, Welsh, etc. Might get one of two seats in places nobody visits.

Prediction: Boris Johnson will win by a country mile.

Nigel farage has indeed done a deal not to stand a candidate in safe Tory seats. They will dilute the Labour vote to keep the communists away from power.

This will give Boris and the Tories another five years in power. That way we can get Brexit done without Moby and the Pinkos delaying it yet further. We'll dispense with the Northern Irish DUP (who the Tories are currently reliant on as May was weak and didn't win enough seats to have an outright majority).

Here's what will happen:

Boris will walk it and win. 
Labour will lose. 
We can dump the DUP. 
The Brexit Party will hopefully gain a few seats from Labour and be able to ensure the government does what it says it will re Brexit. 
If Farage does well, they'll waft him back in the Tory party and in the cabinet to castrate the Brexit Party ongoing.
The Liberal Democrats will win a handful of seats in places nobody goes to or cares about - and nobody will care. 
Scotland will mostly vote Scottish National Party as they vote for people they perceive to defend Scottish interests. 

Right afterwards, Moby and his pro-EU, Muslim apologist and transgender mates will be doing this. 

Naturally they'll be howling for recounts, referendums on anything they can dream up, changes to the electoral system, saying we didn't know what we were voting for, etc. The usual.

Hilarious but accurately summed up.

Unfortunately, my sitting Tory MP is not someone I can vote for so my voting choices are very limited. 🤔

Roll along Thursday.

[Manny]

People who have destroyed this great country

Only Blairs open door immigration policy destroyed the country. (Labour)

and sold the Silver of the House.

It was actually Gordon Brown (Labour) that sold our gold reserves at the bottom of the market.

I am sure that the Tories will sell our valuable and priceless NHS.

Fake news. They'd have done it during the last nine years if that was the case. That's just Pinko scaremongering.

what happened when Thacher imposed the Poll tax?

The immigrants and students revolted as they'd have to pay more. We needed it and it still exists today in the form of Council Tax. Rates was an unfair system.

I don't know what and which party to vote. Whatever I vote it will make no different..... The Tory candidate will be re-elected.

Make sure and vote Conservative. 

[rosco]

Classic Moby here 

Manny, you WERE wrong..
1/ We are still in the EU ..

Because you lot were disingenuous from the very beginning, laying hurdles and feigned acts of democracy.....to basically stop Brexit. It didn't matter what deal came to the table, it could have been the most one sided deal in our favour and you lot would still have voted against it.

2/ Boris couldn't call for a G.election ..the combined opposition allowed one, when he couldn't change the date and try to take us out without a deal...

Another, we have the power card BS. If you lot hadn't agreed to it, you would have had war on your hands. Yes, we actually had the leader of the opposition not wanting a GE, because he was so confused by all the under handed tricks. Just what was it he wanted....who knew??

3/ He  didn't 'die in a ditch'  as promised

He never made that promise and I guess this is where your lot have all the problems. You continually misunderstand stuff and then argue about what was never said. He said he would rather die in a ditch....he used a simile, a figure of speech. 

4/ Corbyn has proven to be ineffectual as an 'opposition leader' buy trying to appease norther Labour voters - who will vote for Boris and 'brexit' anyway

Maybe you're not completely stupid?

6/ IF he get a majority - it will be interesting to see if he reneges on the 'deal' he got with the EU and tries to crash out out ..   

7/ I cannot BEAR to be in the UK and will be doing something FAR more important on the 12th   My Brother has my proxy

I'm all for crashing out out...as you put it. In other words, we'll just leave without the blackmail or handcuffs.

This is just the tip of the iceberg now though. Your emotional tantrums, which your famous for, will be a spectacle and you and your lot will bring me much joy and an early xmas gift.  Triggered.....

Oh and I found a rather hilarious fact last week. Did you know that more Scots voted for Brexit than they did for the SNP? We get told that the whole of Scotland is SNP and wee nippy often spouts out.....the people of Scotland don't want this or don't want that. She's actually less popular than what she claims is the most unpopular thing in Scotland!!

Hilarious!! 


 

 

[Manny]

Oh and I found a rather hilarious fact last week. Did you know that more Scots voted for Brexit than they did for the SNP? We get told that the whole of Scotland is SNP and wee nippy often spouts out.....the people of Scotland don't want this or don't want that. She's actually less popular than what she claims is the most unpopular thing in Scotland!!

Hilarious!! 

Tremendous! 

Every days a school day.

Triggered.....

Oh the Liberal tears will taste sweet.

[msmoby]

Rosco

Who said.." I'd rather die in a ditch "?

Who said, " we WILL be leaving the EU on Oct 31st .." ?

Thank you !

[msmoby]

Oh and I found a rather hilarious fact last week.

I suppose you have a 'source' for this 'fact' ?

Crashing out  - leaving without a deal - is plain daft ... Boris backed down from it - when he realised the folly of same ..

N.Ireland proved he'd shaft anyone - even Unionists - who are closer to thebrexitparty.com in 'values' and hasn't a CLUE about how his   'deal' would make N.Ireland a back door for corrupt business practices and immigration scams


The SNP that you're 'dissing' will be taking seats the likes of Ruth Davidson worked SO hard to win ..before the Tories became UKIP

[Steveboy]

Thursday 13th is Independence day!! The day when the UK FINALLY gets it's independence back..They will not go out into the night and disappear .. they will not be suppressed by the evil empire .. they will fight.. into the night to make the UK free again..

When brexiters will finally release themselves from the tyranny of the EU dictatorship



Germany switch out the f**** lights out on the way out!!!

[d672]

 That Trenchcoat guy said elsewhere that the Tories only need to pick up 9 more seats in this election than they have now to gain the majority, and he figures it should be easy to attain. Over here we have Manny and Rosco pretty much saying the same thing and all 3 have given what seems like well thought out explanations to back up their predictions.
 I'll be the first to admit I know pretty much nothing about UK politics but after their arguments then seeing Moby grasping at straws and trying to insult the poster so much instead of debating their viewpoint, or argue about petty little details that are insignificant to the main discussion I tend to want to believe you 3 chaps more. Just and outsiders point of view...

 Besides, this Brexit fiasco seems so similar to what is happening right now in the US, one side is doing all it can to obstruct the other and all it's doing is hindering actually governing the country. I'm guessing that the Tories are going to end up getting that majority if for no other reason but that the people are probably sick and tired of all this wasted time and taxpayers money and want to move on with it already instead of having this never ending stalemate.

[Steveboy]

In less than 3 days, The day will arrive from here when brexiteers from around the UK Will have the chance to finally rid the UK of the evil empire.. to save the "United Kingdom"" from tyranny "The United Kingdom"   once again be fighting for it's freedom… Not just from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation and submission to the German federal state of Europe. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the 13 of December  will no longer be known as any old day, but as the day the United Kingdom declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!  We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”

Lets do it!!

[msmoby]

That Trenchcoat guy said elsewhere that the Tories only need to pick up 9 more seats in this election than they have now to gain the majority, and he figures it should be easy to attain. Over here we have Manny and Rosco pretty much saying the same thing and all 3 have given what seems like well thought out explanations to back up their predictions.

 


'Grasping at straws?" ..

I guess Friday will demonstrate that the UK is split... The 'little englanders' want 'out' - but have no clue as to why or HOW we'll recover the monies lost in jumping off a cliff like lemmings ..


Scotland, N.Ireland and (now) Wales will reject Boris' promises - which any sane person knows are BS ..

Yup, you know nothing - but unlike Manny, Rosco and Trench - you have an excuse

[msmoby]

In less than 3 days, The day will arrive from here when brexiteers from around the UK Will have the chance to finally rid the UK of the evil empire.. to save the "United Kingdom"" from tyranny "The United Kingdom"   once again be fighting for it's freedom… Not just from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation and submission to the German federal state of Europe. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the 13 of December  will no longer be known as any old day, but as the day the United Kingdom declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!  We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”

Lets do it!!

Says the guy who doesn't live in the UK

Your " independence day " ain't going to be Dec 12th .. just like Oct and March 31st 2019 - it will be another day when UK PLC staggers to the 'next date' - be it another referendum or a 'deal' that will make us MUCH weaker than we were in 2016


Boris keeps spending millions on daft posters telling us to be 'ready for brexit'  and on the metro system of a nation falling over itself to join  the very club some want us to leave - you'll see ads for 'investing in Britain' - which - of course is desperation, as more firms are leaving ..


Boris talks of getting brexit done - but none of us  - including him - have a CLUE - about what the consequences will be ..

[Manny]

I guess Friday will demonstrate that the UK is split... The 'little englanders' want 'out' - but have no clue as to why or HOW we'll recover the monies lost in jumping off a cliff like lemmings ..

Scotland, N.Ireland and (now) Wales will reject Boris' promises - which any sane person knows are BS ..

Yup, you know nothing - but unlike Manny, Rosco and Trench - you have an excuse

Getting triggered already.................

[Steveboy]

In less than 3 days, The day will arrive from here when brexiteers from around the UK Will have the chance to finally rid the UK of the evil empire.. to save the "United Kingdom"" from tyranny "The United Kingdom"   once again be fighting for it's freedom… Not just from tyranny, oppression, or persecution… but from annihilation and submission to the German federal state of Europe. We are fighting for our right to live. To exist. And should we win the day, the 13 of December  will no longer be known as any old day, but as the day the United Kingdom declared in one voice: We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight!  We’re going to live on! We’re going to survive! Today we celebrate our Independence Day!”

Lets do it!!

Says the guy who doesn't live in the UK

Your " independence day " ain't going to be Dec 12th .. just like Oct and March 31st 2019 - it will be another day when UK PLC staggers to the 'next date' - be it another referendum or a 'deal' that will make us MUCH weaker than we were in 2016


Boris keeps spending millions on daft posters telling us to be 'ready for brexit'  and on the metro system of a nation falling over itself to join  the very club some want us to leave - you'll see ads for 'investing in Britain' - which - of course is desperation, as more firms are leaving ..


Boris talks of getting brexit done - but none of us  - including him - have a CLUE - about what the consequences will be ..

Boris talks of getting brexit done - but none of us  - including him - have a CLUE - about what the consequences will be ..  But I do not give a toss@ It is not the way to think! More important the country will be out of the EU's control simple really!! It is what more than half the country want.. wake up!

Says the guy who doesn't live in the UK   Blloody hell!! Discriminating against me are we?? I have a UK passport that gives me the right to an opinion and to vote correct me if I am wrong?

Your telling me it is ok for EU nationals to vote in a UK Election but a UK National with a UK passport not living in the UK has no right.. yeah liberal ff**** hypocrisy at it's best.. 

A sour man with a bad looser attitude.. remind me not to play darts with you

[Steveboy]

That Trenchcoat guy said elsewhere that the Tories only need to pick up 9 more seats in this election than they have now to gain the majority, and he figures it should be easy to attain. Over here we have Manny and Rosco pretty much saying the same thing and all 3 have given what seems like well thought out explanations to back up their predictions.

 


'Grasping at straws?" ..

I guess Friday will demonstrate that the UK is split... The 'little englanders' want 'out' - but have no clue as to why or HOW we'll recover the monies lost in jumping off a cliff like lemmings ..


Scotland, N.Ireland and (now) Wales will reject Boris' promises - which any sane person knows are BS ..

Yup, you know nothing - but unlike Manny, Rosco and Trench - you have an excuse

What I find really amusing is the way you define remainers  such as yourself ? "Smart people" Correct?

So how smart are you? I would guess being so smart and clever you already would of amassed a wealth? Several expensive properties ? Expensive car? Big salary? Stacks of cash??

If you have not done this.. clearly your not so "Smart" and that University education was a waste of time..

I remember pointing out to another so called "Smart" person who thought he was particularly clever and was a smart intelligent person who considered the leavers s"Stupid" yet he lived in a shit hole and looked like he was wearing second hand clothes from the local charity shop.. I did point this out to him to which he had no reply.. strange!!

So how smart and worldly are you then??

[msmoby]

Much smarter than other's might give me credit...based on YOUR criteria))

..but for sure..more intelligent folk are in the remain camp !


Which hurts you more?!

[rosco]

Am I teaching remedial here, what was so hard to understand from my post?

Who said.." I'd rather die in a ditch "?

You said that he promised. That's totally wrong, he said he would "rather be dead in a ditch". Again, if you think that's a promise, then its no wonder you struggle when adults talk.

Who said, " we WILL be leaving the EU on Oct 31st .." ?

Boris did absolutely everything to leave. Your lot pulled every underhanded trick imaginable to prevent it happening and then painted Boris as the undemocratic one. Like seriously......

 

[andrewfi]

There's no doubt that the UK is split.
The election will not fix that whatever happens.

If Labour wins and against Corbyn's own conscience and beliefs, the UK does not leave the EU, then the country will be more split. Not just because some people will get what they want while a majority will not, but because the democratic process that underpins a large part of British society will have been broken. There will be a new split between the government and the governed. We need to remember that any government (and I do not refer here to political parties or any individual) depends upon consent. Without an agreement between the governed and government, the system will fail. Violence and repression can enforce consent for a time - but only for a time.

If we do not leave the EU then not only will trust break down between those who voted in the referendum to leave the EU, but also many of those who voted to leave and the government. Many people understand that the process of preventing the UK leaving goes against the principals that they believe in about how the United Kingdom is constituted, how it works.

If, after the election, we do not leave the EU then the turmoil will not end. The turmoil will become worse.

[rosco]

Oh and I found a rather hilarious fact last week.

I suppose you have a 'source' for this 'fact' ?

Do I have to do everything for you? Interestingly, all the other's who struggled to downloads these hard facts, also squealed for evidence. Were you hoping it was a UKIP source? Well here you go.....

Scots who voted for Brexit - 1,018,322
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

Scots who voted SNP - 977,569
and
Scots who voted Conservative - 757,949
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40246330

We're not really the left wing, totalitarian country, Moby and his sort like to claim. In fact the stats above make him look completely stupid.

 

[msmoby]

Poor 'ol Rosco,

Starts off with a howler..and downhill from there..

Boris made promises that it became clear he could not keep...ending up losing any ability to govern through his acts.

He said..we are leaving on Oct 31st...He wasted MILLIONS on digital adverts, posters  and 'advice' to drivers that those in remedial class' knew were PROMISES and policy he could not achieve...mainly down to his removing the whip from MPs that wisely stoped his folly.

This 'remedial class student' foretold all the outcome.

Now, here we are with you hoping Boris will win a clear majority ..

This is like watching teenagers buying White Lightening cider and knowing it will end.,badly..

[Steveboy]

There's no doubt that the UK is split.
The election will not fix that whatever happens.

If Labour wins and against Corbyn's own conscience and beliefs, the UK does not leave the EU, then the country will be more split. Not just because some people will get what they want while a majority will not, but because the democratic process that underpins a large part of British society will have been broken. There will be a new split between the government and the governed. We need to remember that any government (and I do not refer here to political parties or any individual) depends upon consent. Without an agreement between the governed and government, the system will fail. Violence and repression can enforce consent for a time - but only for a time.

If we do not leave the EU then not only will trust break down between those who voted in the referendum to leave the EU, but also many of those who voted to leave and the government. Many people understand that the process of preventing the UK leaving goes against the principals that they believe in about how the United Kingdom is constituted, how it works.

If, after the election, we do not leave the EU then the turmoil will not end. The turmoil will become worse.

Well a few nail bombs and lots of dead people seemed to work for the IRA in the end..

If they don't leave I would suggest a date and a time .. just fists and feet .. leavers V remainers going to need a big area to fit 30 million people in for big scrap.. last 10 million standing win..

Some how I don't see those "Smart asses" doing much other than getting a good hiding which they deserve in any case..

I just can't see some "Smart" person such as Moby giving a hiding to some dumb ass f*** wit with no education.. would be an interesting battle..

[msmoby]

Do I have to do everything for you? Interestingly, all the other's who struggled to downloads these hard facts, also squealed for evidence. Were you hoping it was a UKIP source? Well here you go.....

Scots who voted for Brexit - 1,018,322
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

Scots who voted SNP - 977,569
and
Scots who voted Conservative - 757,949
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-40246330

We're not really the left wing, totalitarian country, Moby and his sort like to claim. In fact the stats above make him look completely stupid.

 

*I* voted Conservative in 2017 ...

There you go - Rosco busted at the first hurdle ..So much for YOUR stats

[rosco]

Poor 'ol Rosco,

Starts off with a howler..and downhill from there..

Boris made promises that it became clear he could not keep...ending up losing any ability to govern through his acts.

He said..we are leaving on Oct 31st...He wasted MILLIONS on digital adverts, posters  and 'advice' to drivers that those in remedial class' knew were PROMISES and policy he could not achieve...mainly down to his removing the whip from MPs that wisely stoped his folly.

This 'remedial class student' foretold all the outcome.

Now, here we are with you hoping Boris will win a clear majority ..

This is like watching teenagers buying White Lightening cider and knowing it will end.,badly..

Eh no it was you bunch of anti democrats who wasted our precious tax payers money. Don't worry though, your punishment will be handed out this week.

Enjoy loser