Dedollarization.

[BC]

I only added something substantive and a bit more descriptive about what was left, Markje. I'll leave it up to y'all to draw your conclusions from the information provided in the article, which included other pertinent information like those likely disabled and left in nonfunctioning condition.

[Markje]

I only added something substantive and a bit more descriptive about what was left, Markje. I'll leave it up to y'all to draw your conclusions from the information provided in the article, which included other pertinent information like those likely disabled and left in nonfunctioning condition.

The helicopters and other functional aircraft alone put it at 2.1+ billion dollars. Never mind the rest of it all.

Nitpicking about working/non-working state becomes obsolete (from your own article).

Plus as shown in various videos, the taliban CAN and WILL fly those blackhawks, so thats clearly functional.

[2tallbill]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2021/08/30/what-military-equipment-left-behind-afghanistan-us/5658895001/

A Biden apologist network said there wasn't anything of value
left behind, that's such a surprise. I recommend using several
sources to get to the bottom of what's going on, especially
when Biden took such a major hit from his mismanagement.


US equipment left in Afghanistan is ‘playground’ for enemies to
learn US weaknesses, cyber expert says
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/09/us-equipment-left-in-afghanistan-is-playground-for-enemies-to-learn-us-weaknesses-cyber-expert-says/


Military Equipment the US Left Behind for the Taliban
“The Taliban now has more Black Hawk helicopters than 85% of the countries in the world,” Congressman Jim Banks, a veteran, lamented. “But it's not just weapons. They have night vision goggles, body armor, and unbelievably, the Taliban now has biometric devices which have the fingerprints, eye scans and biographical information of all of the Afghans who helped us and were on our side over the last 20 years. There is no plan by the administration to get those weapons back. There is no plan to account for any of this equipment or these weapons.”
https://fee.org/articles/here-s-the-list-of-billions-in-military-equipment-the-us-left-behind-for-the-taliban/


US equipment left in Afghanistan is ‘playground’ for enemies to
learn US weaknesses, cyber expert says
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/09/us-equipment-left-in-afghanistan-is-playground-for-enemies-to-learn-us-weaknesses-cyber-expert-says/


Taliban has billions in US weapons, including Black Hawks and up to 600K rifles
https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/us-left-billions-in-weapons-in-afghanistan-with-black-hawks-in-talibans-hands/


The US left $7 billion worth of military equipment in Afghanistan
after its botched withdrawal, report says
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-left-7-billion-military-equipment-in-afghanistan-report-2022-4?op=1


Comprehensive List Of U.S. Equipment Left In Afghanistan For The Taliban(includes video)
https://drrichswier.com/2021/08/24/video-comprehensive-list-of-u-s-equipment-left-in-afghanistan-for-the-taliban/


Afghanistan: What was left behind by US forces?
Initial estimates suggest the Taliban may now also possess several Black Hawk helicopters and other US-funded military aircraft, according to a congressional source familiar with early assessments provided by defense officials.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/21/politics/us-weapons-arsenal-taliban-afghanistan/index.html

[cufflinks]

1. Because Joe Biden is a treasonous weak ineffective President who cannot do anything right.

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf

This agreement between the US and the Taliban, without  Afghan government was signed on 29 February 2020.  Biden was elected in November 2020.  Who was POTUS at this time?

2. We agree that our military would be better suited defending our southern border.

Our laws prevent the military from defending the border as you desire.  Even Trump could not have done so.

The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act limits the U.S. military's role in enforcing domestic laws, meaning that interactions between active-duty troops and migrants at the Mexican border are restricted. They can neither detain and deport unauthorized immigrants nor conduct searches and seizures.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-us-patrols-its-borders

Clearly BC Baphomet the Communist is channeling his inner reincarnation of the Italian Communist leader that the Soviets named their LADA-FIAT Auto City after.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiro_Togliatti

Residing in his Italian Communist Workers Paradise he spouts communist shite and verbose vomit across the true Patriots that are currently suffering under the Reign of Beijing Biden and the Biden CCP bought and paid for Crime Cartel.  The CCP being you guessed it BC's beloved Chinese COMMUNIST Party.

The CCP is supplying massive amounts of the liquid chemical precursors for fentanyl to the Mexican Narco-Terrorist Cartels that are currently actively invading the USA and Killing over 100,000 young men and women of military age to the benefit of the CCP and Mexican "Reconquistadores" who's main goal is to take over the USA and replace the USA population with cheap low IQ indigenous Mexican labor and high IQ Chinese Communist Managers and executives. 

To all the communist lovers and CCP disciples on this forum just watch how the CCP collaborators in the Biden Regime are about to go into full arse-pucker mode as the Patriots of America, ARMED and AMMOED Up to the full max now are preparing to go FULL MEDIEVAL on the Beijing Biden CCP regime with investigations, subpoenas, and CUTTING OFF ALL Funding to the US GOVT, DoD, DEA, ATF, and all federal LEO agencies (FBI and CIA) as the first shots are fired across the Beijing Biden CCP Ship of State until they do their jobs fighting the CCP Narco Terrorists. 

Old Joe was in the US Senate and he may be demented but he can still count votes and may believe the only way to keep his entire family out of prison is to do his damned job as POTUS on behalf of the US People instead of the Chinese, Central American and Ukrainian people. 

Either that or the entire Biden Crime Cartel goes to prison along with all of their CCP Democommunist Party co-conspirators. 

The CCP Beijing Biden Narco-Terrorists wanted a war with the American Patriots they have one now - first law voted on today in the New Patriots lead Congress is to IMPEACH DHS Secretary Mayorkis (Biden knows he is next) the Lying Legacy Media will cover all of this or be treated as enemies of the state.

Then launch a full-scale DoD DEA attack with 4 Carrier Battle Groups on the Atlantic, Gulf and Pacific sides of Mexico and Central American Drug smuggling Routes and CCP Supplied and funded Fentanyl Factories with fully cooperative Mexican and Latin American govt and military allied attacks just like we did the first time we had to take down the Columbian Cocaine and Crack Cartels. 

CIA can Legally Hire former DoD Special Forces and embed them with Posse Comitatus compliant Federal DEA/ATF and the bloody CCP/FBI traitors have a choice - work with the DoD/CIA/DEA to eliminate the CCP Fentanyl laced Drugs supplied by multiple Mexican and Latin American Militias and CCP NARCO-TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS and kill all of the CCP Narco-Terrorists where they sleep across Mexico and Latin America (Witness the Mexican Govt War with the Sinaloa Cartel and their recent battle to arrest and extradite El Chapo's son to the USA Federal Prison Systems).   Exactly how we took down the ISIS Caliphate.  The latest Sinaloa battles in Mexico resulted in the seizure of massive Military Militia Grade weapons caches.  Proof the USA is now fighting true armed organized militias exactly like ISIS. 

Will be interesting to watch mass formations of M1A1 Super Tanks and Apache attack Helos roll across the southern border with US Air Force and Space Force Support along with the US Navy Carrier Battle Groups as they come down like Thor's Hammer on these CCP-Narco Terrorists camps and urban strongholds until every last one of the Enemy is phooking dead. 

Do you really think Biden went to the wall to reach out "across the aisle" to the new GOP house who now controls his Govt Purse Strings and will shut down the US Gov Spending over the coming Debt Ceiling unless Joe radically changes course now and upholds his oath as CIC. 

Biden's Border Wall Walk was a distraction, the real action was meeting with the Mexican Govt which just negotiated USA Support for its war on the Narco-Terrorists now that they see that the USA gave $110 Billion USD plus overtly and trillion$ covertly to support the Kiev/Burisma branch of Biden's Crime Family and Ukraine Mafiya Operations in Ukraine. 

Mexico expects the same now in return for going to war with the CCP Narco-Terrorists and shutting down the Drugs Crimes fueled by the Beijing Biden/CCP Cartels' fentanyl murders and narco-terrorist war against the USA.

BC a.k.a. Baphomet the Communist can pound his Communist Posse Comitatus BS up his arse next to his head, either or both.

The USA is now at war with the CCP-Narco-Terrorists who got strong while we were distracted by the ISIS Caliphate and the Ukraine Mafiya War with their Russian Mafiya cousins.

Shite is now getting real.

[BC]

A Biden apologist network said there wasn't anything of value
left behind, that's such a surprise. I recommend using several
sources to get to the bottom of what's going on, especially
when Biden took such a major hit from his mismanagement.

Not how I read it, but if that's your opin, it's fine.

[BC]

Clearly BC Baphomet the Communist is channeling his inner reincarnation of the Italian Communist leader that the Soviets named their LADA-FIAT Auto City after.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiro_Togliatti

Residing in his Italian Communist Workers Paradise he spouts communist shite and verbose vomit across the true Patriots that are currently suffering under the Reign of Beijing Biden and the Biden CCP bought and paid for Crime Cartel.  The CCP being you guessed it BC's beloved Chinese COMMUNIST Party.

The CCP is supplying massive amounts of the liquid chemical precursors for fentanyl to the Mexican Narco-Terrorist Cartels that are currently actively invading the USA and Killing over 100,000 young men and women of military age to the benefit of the CCP and Mexican "Reconquistadores" who's main goal is to take over the USA and replace the USA population with cheap low IQ indigenous Mexican labor and high IQ Chinese Communist Managers and executives. 

To all the communist lovers and CCP disciples on this forum just watch how the CCP collaborators in the Biden Regime are about to go into full arse-pucker mode as the Patriots of America, ARMED and AMMOED Up to the full max now are preparing to go FULL MEDIEVAL on the Beijing Biden CCP regime with investigations, subpoenas, and CUTTING OFF ALL Funding to the US GOVT, DoD, DEA, ATF, and all federal LEO agencies (FBI and CIA) as the first shots are fired across the Beijing Biden CCP Ship of State until they do their jobs fighting the CCP Narco Terrorists. 

Old Joe was in the US Senate and he may be demented but he can still count votes and may believe the only way to keep his entire family out of prison is to do his damned job as POTUS on behalf of the US People instead of the Chinese, Central American and Ukrainian people. 

Either that or the entire Biden Crime Cartel goes to prison along with all of their CCP Democommunist Party co-conspirators. 

The CCP Beijing Biden Narco-Terrorists wanted a war with the American Patriots they have one now - first law voted on today in the New Patriots lead Congress is to IMPEACH DHS Secretary Mayorkis (Biden knows he is next) the Lying Legacy Media will cover all of this or be treated as enemies of the state.

Then launch a full-scale DoD DEA attack with 4 Carrier Battle Groups on the Atlantic, Gulf and Pacific sides of Mexico and Central American Drug smuggling Routes and CCP Supplied and funded Fentanyl Factories with fully cooperative Mexican and Latin American govt and military allied attacks just like we did the first time we had to take down the Columbian Cocaine and Crack Cartels. 

CIA can Legally Hire former DoD Special Forces and embed them with Posse Comitatus compliant Federal DEA/ATF and the bloody CCP/FBI traitors have a choice - work with the DoD/CIA/DEA to eliminate the CCP Fentanyl laced Drugs supplied by multiple Mexican and Latin American Militias and CCP NARCO-TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS and kill all of the CCP Narco-Terrorists where they sleep across Mexico and Latin America (Witness the Mexican Govt War with the Sinaloa Cartel and their recent battle to arrest and extradite El Chapo's son to the USA Federal Prison Systems).   Exactly how we took down the ISIS Caliphate.  The latest Sinaloa battles in Mexico resulted in the seizure of massive Military Militia Grade weapons caches.  Proof the USA is now fighting true armed organized militias exactly like ISIS. 

Will be interesting to watch mass formations of M1A1 Super Tanks and Apache attack Helos roll across the southern border with US Air Force and Space Force Support along with the US Navy Carrier Battle Groups as they come down like Thor's Hammer on these CCP-Narco Terrorists camps and urban strongholds until every last one of the Enemy is phooking dead. 

Do you really think Biden went to the wall to reach out "across the aisle" to the new GOP house who now controls his Govt Purse Strings and will shut down the US Gov Spending over the coming Debt Ceiling unless Joe radically changes course now and upholds his oath as CIC. 

Biden's Border Wall Walk was a distraction, the real action was meeting with the Mexican Govt which just negotiated USA Support for its war on the Narco-Terrorists now that they see that the USA gave $110 Billion USD plus overtly and trillion$ covertly to support the Kiev/Burisma branch of Biden's Crime Family and Ukraine Mafiya Operations in Ukraine. 

Mexico expects the same now in return for going to war with the CCP Narco-Terrorists and shutting down the Drugs Crimes fueled by the Beijing Biden/CCP Cartels' fentanyl murders and narco-terrorist war against the USA.

BC a.k.a. Baphomet the Communist can pound his Communist Posse Comitatus BS up his arse next to his head, either or both.

The USA is now at war with the CCP-Narco-Terrorists who got strong while we were distracted by the ISIS Caliphate and the Ukraine Mafiya War with their Russian Mafiya cousins.

Shite is now getting real.

Clearly, you haven't got a clue Cuffy.  You'd be better off trying to figure out why the demand is so high for this shit and address the root causes before you go warring in Mexico, and China.  Supply follows demand. The war on drugs failed miserably and you still don't get it.

[Contrarian]

A Biden apologist network said there wasn't anything of value
left behind, that's such a surprise. I recommend using several
sources to get to the bottom of what's going on, especially
when Biden took such a major hit from his mismanagement.

Not how I read it, but if that's your opin, it's fine.

What a surprise, Beyond Confused cannot read and comprehend plain English! 

Good job Cufflinks, I enjoyed that immensely!                             

[Contrarian]

Clearly BC Baphomet the Communist is channeling his inner reincarnation of the Italian Communist leader that the Soviets named their LADA-FIAT Auto City after.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiro_Togliatti

Residing in his Italian Communist Workers Paradise he spouts communist shite and verbose vomit across the true Patriots that are currently suffering under the Reign of Beijing Biden and the Biden CCP bought and paid for Crime Cartel.  The CCP being you guessed it BC's beloved Chinese COMMUNIST Party.

The CCP is supplying massive amounts of the liquid chemical precursors for fentanyl to the Mexican Narco-Terrorist Cartels that are currently actively invading the USA and Killing over 100,000 young men and women of military age to the benefit of the CCP and Mexican "Reconquistadores" who's main goal is to take over the USA and replace the USA population with cheap low IQ indigenous Mexican labor and high IQ Chinese Communist Managers and executives. 

To all the communist lovers and CCP disciples on this forum just watch how the CCP collaborators in the Biden Regime are about to go into full arse-pucker mode as the Patriots of America, ARMED and AMMOED Up to the full max now are preparing to go FULL MEDIEVAL on the Beijing Biden CCP regime with investigations, subpoenas, and CUTTING OFF ALL Funding to the US GOVT, DoD, DEA, ATF, and all federal LEO agencies (FBI and CIA) as the first shots are fired across the Beijing Biden CCP Ship of State until they do their jobs fighting the CCP Narco Terrorists. 

Old Joe was in the US Senate and he may be demented but he can still count votes and may believe the only way to keep his entire family out of prison is to do his damned job as POTUS on behalf of the US People instead of the Chinese, Central American and Ukrainian people. 

Either that or the entire Biden Crime Cartel goes to prison along with all of their CCP Democommunist Party co-conspirators. 

The CCP Beijing Biden Narco-Terrorists wanted a war with the American Patriots they have one now - first law voted on today in the New Patriots lead Congress is to IMPEACH DHS Secretary Mayorkis (Biden knows he is next) the Lying Legacy Media will cover all of this or be treated as enemies of the state.

Then launch a full-scale DoD DEA attack with 4 Carrier Battle Groups on the Atlantic, Gulf and Pacific sides of Mexico and Central American Drug smuggling Routes and CCP Supplied and funded Fentanyl Factories with fully cooperative Mexican and Latin American govt and military allied attacks just like we did the first time we had to take down the Columbian Cocaine and Crack Cartels. 

CIA can Legally Hire former DoD Special Forces and embed them with Posse Comitatus compliant Federal DEA/ATF and the bloody CCP/FBI traitors have a choice - work with the DoD/CIA/DEA to eliminate the CCP Fentanyl laced Drugs supplied by multiple Mexican and Latin American Militias and CCP NARCO-TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS and kill all of the CCP Narco-Terrorists where they sleep across Mexico and Latin America (Witness the Mexican Govt War with the Sinaloa Cartel and their recent battle to arrest and extradite El Chapo's son to the USA Federal Prison Systems).   Exactly how we took down the ISIS Caliphate.  The latest Sinaloa battles in Mexico resulted in the seizure of massive Military Militia Grade weapons caches.  Proof the USA is now fighting true armed organized militias exactly like ISIS. 

Will be interesting to watch mass formations of M1A1 Super Tanks and Apache attack Helos roll across the southern border with US Air Force and Space Force Support along with the US Navy Carrier Battle Groups as they come down like Thor's Hammer on these CCP-Narco Terrorists camps and urban strongholds until every last one of the Enemy is phooking dead. 

Do you really think Biden went to the wall to reach out "across the aisle" to the new GOP house who now controls his Govt Purse Strings and will shut down the US Gov Spending over the coming Debt Ceiling unless Joe radically changes course now and upholds his oath as CIC. 

Biden's Border Wall Walk was a distraction, the real action was meeting with the Mexican Govt which just negotiated USA Support for its war on the Narco-Terrorists now that they see that the USA gave $110 Billion USD plus overtly and trillion$ covertly to support the Kiev/Burisma branch of Biden's Crime Family and Ukraine Mafiya Operations in Ukraine. 

Mexico expects the same now in return for going to war with the CCP Narco-Terrorists and shutting down the Drugs Crimes fueled by the Beijing Biden/CCP Cartels' fentanyl murders and narco-terrorist war against the USA.

BC a.k.a. Baphomet the Communist can pound his Communist Posse Comitatus BS up his arse next to his head, either or both.

The USA is now at war with the CCP-Narco-Terrorists who got strong while we were distracted by the ISIS Caliphate and the Ukraine Mafiya War with their Russian Mafiya cousins.

Shite is now getting real.

Thanks for putting me in my place, Cufflinks, I deserved every bit of that ass spanking!!!

FTFY Commie.....

[Markje]

The war on drugs failed miserably and you still don't get it.

The only way to win that war, is with good health-care to the poor.... guess where the USA is failing.

[cufflinks]

This is a full-on massive Narco-Terrorist War against the USA by the CCP and their Criminal Narco-Terrorist allies in Mexico.  Touchy-feely social justice platitudes do NOT win wars, fentanyl is not recreational Weed or Cocaine - it is extremely deadly and dangerous - it is in fact a biomedical weapon, and the full force of the US Military and all State and Federal LEO Agencies needs to be brought to bear backing up the Mexican Military in this active war against the Narco-Terrorist Cartels and their CCP enablers.

A fully organized and well-armed and commanded offense can make Mexico Safe again for its own people as well as the rest of North America including Canada as every city in the USA and Canada sees young people dying from Fentanyl poisoning on a daily basis.  THIS MUST END NOW.

 

[BC]

Good job Cufflinks, I enjoyed that immensely!                             

I'm glad you at found Cuffy's childish tantrum at least has some entertainment value.  As for legal, practical, and actionable ideas to combat the demand for chemicals that cause dependency and death, it's worth zero.

 

[BC]

THIS MUST END NOW.

Decades of such talk have achieved very little.  Did the War on Drugs stop pot? Cocaine? Meth? LSD? Shrooms? etc etc?  Of course not. Did arresting consumers staunch demand? Of course not. It just drove them deeper into the depths of despair and addiction. Smugglers have existed since the first laws were written and will continue their business of filling the demand no matter how or what you throw at them. Like any commodity, illicit drug prices will only vary with supply.  Reducing supply won't help.  If it costs more, addicts will steal more to make up the difference, and we'll just be paying out of another pocket. Demand for drugs of all types is skyrocketing.  Fentanyl and similar drugs are readily available anywhere on this planet, but the US has the highest number of folks addicted and the highest number of overdoses and deaths per capita by far, something like 3 to 20+ times that of other 'rich' countries.

The US also (still) prescribes far more opiate painkillers per capita than any other nation, despite reducing prescriptions by 40%.  Decades of folks hooked on prescribed opiates are now turning to more dangerous alternatives such as fentanyl et al.

You're just looking for someone else to blame when WE and our for-profit healthcare system created this monster and the resulting demand Cuffy.  All you can come up with is excuses.  Even civil cases that brought in huge fines to manufacturers and distributors is only a drop in the bucket of what it will cost us to help those who need it most.  Now rehab is a huge business that profits even more from high recidivism.  Pick 'em up, spit 'em out when their 30 60 or 90 days is up, then pick 'em back up in a couple of months if they haven't OD'd by then.  Meanwhile, you and I will be paying for it one way or another.

This is what the data shows...


https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/652ef96a-en/index.html?itemId=/content/component/652ef96a-en



https://end-overdose-epidemic.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/AMA-2021-Overdose-Epidemic-Report_92021.pdf

[cufflinks]

Good job Cufflinks, I enjoyed that immensely!                             

I'm glad you at found Cuffy's childish tantrum at least has some entertainment value.  As for legal, practical, and actionable ideas to combat the demand for chemicals that cause dependency and death, it's worth zero.

BC you ignoramus if we were face to face I would treat you like a Narco-Terrorist because if you defend CCP Narco-Terrorists you ARE a Narco-Terrorist and are in fact an enemy of the US Constitution - in your case a Bold Faced Beijing Biden Loving Traitor.

As for your worn-out liberal Communist whore's trope that if there was no demand for illegal drugs there would be no problem - you are just like the Drag Queens who teach little children that cross-dressing and performing while living an LGBTQ-trannie life is healthy when it is the primary vector for 30 STD's many deadly and debilitating.

The problem with these advanced CCP designer Drugs and potent fentanyl or 100X worse carfentanyl is that they are extremely addictive and deadly so your red herring argument against fighting the CCP Narco Terrorists Cartels is a RED HERRING, Dead on Arrival just like your beloved CCP Narco-Terrorists very soon.

Baphomet the Satanic Communist you and your AOC Marxist ilk are despicable excuses for human beings - Putin has the right idea nuking you pukes in the EU.

[BC]

BC you ignoramus if we were face to face I would treat you like a Narco-Terrorist because if you defend CCP Narco-Terrorists you ARE a Narco-Terrorist and are in fact an enemy of the US Constitution - in your case a Bold Faced Beijing Biden Loving Traitor.

As for your worn-out liberal Communist whore's trope that if there was no demand for illegal drugs there would be no problem - you are just like the Drag Queens who teach little children that cross-dressing and performing while living an LGBTQ-trannie life is healthy when it is the primary vector for 30 STD's many deadly and debilitating.

The problem with these advanced CCP designer Drugs and potent fentanyl or 100X worse carfentanyl is that they are extremely addictive and deadly so your red herring argument against fighting the CCP Narco Terrorists Cartels is a RED HERRING, Dead on Arrival just like your beloved CCP Narco-Terrorists very soon.

Baphomet the Satanic Communist you and your AOC Marxist ilk are despicable excuses for human beings - Putin has the right idea nuking you pukes in the EU.

Throw in the kitchen sink if you want Cuffy; your opinion is worthless without facts to back them up.  I'll agree with you that fentanyl and its derivatives are more potent than heroin or other pharma opioids, leading to more overdoses, but that doesn't change a thing in the overall equation regarding the demand for opiates.

Heroin is cut with all kinds of nasty stuff including rat poison.  The only thing new here is that fentanyl et. al leaves out the heroin entirely, replacing it.  Being much more powerful, it's easier to manufacture, and much smaller making it easier to smuggle.  At this point, it would be better to just offer addicted folks pharmaceutical-grade oxy or similar, and let the big pharma/health industry cash in a third time on the monster they helped create.

Close the border completely, stop all shipping, stop all mail and someone will still be able to smuggle the stuff needed to make it.  Probably only a bit more complicated than meth, and that's made all over the US.

Here are some 'how to' instructions in 7 different ways... somebody will figure out how to make it in a garage, or in the woods like bootleggers ... https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.orglett.2c03338

Jeez.. almost a thousand meth labs in Tulsa OK???  https://money.cnn.com/interactive/news/meth-lab-map/

[cufflinks]

Just more excuses BC on behalf of your Democrat Communist Party's darlings the CCP and their Latin American Narco-Terrorists.

[2tallbill]

Not how I read it, but if that's your opin, it's fine.

Yes, that's my opinion.

Udachi!
Bill

[Contrarian]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/here-s-why-experts-say-russia-and-china-s-attempts-to-de-dollarize-global-markets-are-going-nowhere/ar-AA18f3XE?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=264eecbca47c48adb40c35b4ae1baf1d&ei=49

[Manny]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/here-s-why-experts-say-russia-and-china-s-attempts-to-de-dollarize-global-markets-are-going-nowhere/ar-AA18f3XE?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=264eecbca47c48adb40c35b4ae1baf1d&ei=49

Typical fake news/propaganda.

Un-named "experts" and a nonsense piece by someone called Jennifer Sor, a "junior reporter". Probably a Chat GPT-generated piece.

[andrewfi]

Interesting how the article suggests that dedollarisation won't happen because the dollar is so widely used, yet the dollar is being less widely used. At some moment in time a tipping point will be reached and a sudden change will occur.

Can the USA halt the process? Almost certainly not through economic intervention. The other option is liable to result in a phyrric victory.

Remember, every time the United States imposes illegal sanctions upon countries, companies and individuals with the stated goal of isolation of those entities, the reality is that the United States is isolating itself from those entities. The rest of the world is larger than the USA. This is a one-way street.

[2tallbill]

Remember, every time the United States imposes illegal sanctions upon countries, companies and individuals with the stated goal of isolation of those entities, the reality is that the United States is isolating itself from those entities. The rest of the world is larger than the USA. This is a one-way street.

Do you have any examples of where/when this has happened?

[andrewfi]

Think for a moment Bill. The one follows from the other. If For example, France refuses to buy apples from the UK then, in a small way, France has isolated itself from the UK. There is less communication between apple buyers in France and apple sellers in the UK as a result.

If France then decides to stop buying bread from the UK, the same happens.

You get that? Understand it?

So, what happens when France stops buying anything from the UK. No trade?
Is France more or less isolated from the UK than before the process started?

Yes, that's right. France is more isolated from the the UK than before.

Now apply that to the US case. Now you understand the point.

It's not an on/off switch. It is a process.

And of course, in this situation, at some point, the UK will, quite sensibly, say, hmm, those frogs are not worth bothering with. Let's not go to France on vacation. Let's go to Spain instead, a place that does not cause us problems, a place where our money is welcome.

So the isolation process spirals.

That's the process in which the United States is involved. We are now starting to see the "They are a pain in the arse. It's not worth going there on vacation" phase. So Saudi Arabia is starting to sell energy products to China in yuan. France is buying energy products from China in yuan.

If you seek examples, then every single illegal sanction imposed by the USA, every single illegal asset seizure becomes an example of the USA becoming more isolated.

But remember, these things are not simple binary events, they are part of a process. But a process with a tipping point.

[2tallbill]

Think for a moment Bill.

If you can't think of an example, just say that you can't. I don't have the time
for your verbose navel gazing. 

[Texan77]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/here-s-why-experts-say-russia-and-china-s-attempts-to-de-dollarize-global-markets-are-going-nowhere/ar-AA18f3XE?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=264eecbca47c48adb40c35b4ae1baf1d&ei=49

Typical fake news/propaganda.

Un-named "experts" and a nonsense piece by someone called Jennifer Sor, a "junior reporter". Probably a Chat GPT-generated piece.

What is happening is groups of countries will trade in trading blocks. Russia and China will be part of one block and USA and EU will be part of another block. There will be little trade between blocks but trade within blocks.  It is the end of globalization as we know it. The completing blocks will make the world less efficient, and most people will have less. A less affluent and older society means it will be harder for anyone to sell products in most countries.

[Wiz]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/here-s-why-experts-say-russia-and-china-s-attempts-to-de-dollarize-global-markets-are-going-nowhere/ar-AA18f3XE?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=264eecbca47c48adb40c35b4ae1baf1d&ei=49

Typical fake news/propaganda.

Un-named "experts" and a nonsense piece by someone called Jennifer Sor, a "junior reporter". Probably a Chat GPT-generated piece.

What is happening is groups of countries will trade in trading blocks. Russia and China will be part of one block and USA and EU will be part of another block. There will be little trade between blocks but trade within blocks.  It is the end of globalization as we know it. The completing blocks will make the world less efficient, and most people will have less. A less affluent and older society means it will be harder for anyone to sell products in most countries.

Professor Tex  watch the truth from Tucker.... and start learning!

I expect your reply will be: He is a NAZI!!!


The death of the Dollar is very Near!!!

[Markje]

In other news:
https://www.silkroadbriefing.com/news/2023/03/31/brazil-china-sign-agreement-to-drop-us-dollar-and-use-rmb-yuan-real-in-bilateral-trade/

(ok, it is a bit pro-china oriented website, but still)

China and Brazil have secured a deal to conduct bilateral trade in their own respective currencies, eliminating the US dollar as an intermediary.

The agreement between the two BRICS countries, which have $150 billion in annual trade, would probably have been signed in Beijing this week had Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s scheduled visit not been postponed due to illness. At around the same time, China also conducted its first-ever trade of liquified natural gas settled entirely in yuan with France’s TotalEnergies.

The decision by Brazil and China to pursue non-dollar trade is a huge geopolitical moment, and a sign that countries are seeking to move away from using the US currency, in direct response to Washington’s abuse of the global reserve currency for its own hegemonic aims. Although the greenback will of course remain a prominent force in global trade and economics, the Americans’ ability to use it as a tool with which to bully and quash other countries is diminishing.