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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2019, 10:22:42 AM »
Personally, I'd prefer to rent such a woman than pretend I am making a relationship. And that said, there must be lots of pretty girls in the USA you can rent by the hour?

Certainly - if you know where to look
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2019, 10:31:11 AM »
Now, ask yourself why your wife asked you to come down to meet her either outside the hotel or in the lobby. The reason was that by doing so she was most unlikely to be stopped by security and, if she was, you'd take care of the matter. It is part of the same reasoning.

No, I explained clearly why it was.

And in the hotel I used then (and have used there ever since) - the Park Hotel in Togliatti - there is no security shaking anyone down for bribes. Maybe we use different hotels.
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2019, 10:49:28 AM »
As I said, you were not entirely wrong. But there is a reason for it that underlies your experience and I shared it with you.

The attitude didn't spring from nowhere. It came from the way hotels were run back then and how security ran the hooker business in hotels.

So, as I noted the reason why many women didn't want to use hotels 20 years or so ago was because of being thought to be hookers. The reason for that didn't spring from nowhere, but came from the ever present risk of being stopped by security and getting shaken down by security for their 'rent'.

Now, if you want, you can imagine that women are just simple creatures with not a thought in their heads leading them to act irrationally. I think better of them than that! There was a solid reason for their concern. Now you know what it was.

Now, ask yourself why your wife asked you to come down to meet her either outside the hotel or in the lobby. The reason was that by doing so she was most unlikely to be stopped by security and, if she was, you'd take care of the matter. It is part of the same reasoning.

For the most part FiFi I agree with you.  I remember the days when the phones in hotels had switches on them so you could turn them off and not be bothered by the calls from pimps wanting to know if you would like some feminine company.  Different mafia groups used to control that industry and would lay claim to the business in different hotels. 

But those were the old days.  With the availability of internet sex the whole situation has changed.  The nicer hotels certainly required passports for registration; however if you want to bring a lady up to your room and she passes the "eyeball test" by the security (meaning she isn't dressed like a Ukrainian slut from a lineup), you'll usually have no problem.   
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2019, 11:51:23 AM »
Manny, I'd be very surprised if the stuff I told you was happening 20 years ago was still happening today. The world, as I noted, has moved on.

To be clear, the stuff you were going on about was due to a situation that was rife 20 years ago, was dying out 16 years ago and is pretty much dead today.

Trying to fob folks off with advice from your Dad's heyday isn't that helpful. I am writing about stuff as it is today. There may still be some women who might prefer to meet up with and stay with a stranger in a tourist apartment rather than a hotel but the more aware people will probably have a different idea. The simple truth is that a hotel is likely to be considered to be safer than an apartment by most women these days.

If a bloke wants to play house with his newly met inamorata in a short term rental apartment then he should tell her the games he wants to play and see if it fits within her comfort zone. She might agree.
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2019, 02:19:19 PM »
I've done this many times, you can PM me.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2019, 03:10:14 PM »
Some are referring to 20 years ago, for me it was 7-8 years ago.
I do suspect times are changing, but I would also think it depends on which city
you are in.

I was thinking back to when I was on my adventure and meeting people,
one came to the apartment before meeting me, insisted on it. Keep in mind
several months of Skype before hand. I was traveling from one city to another
no trains, limited buses on route I was going, so I found and hired a car to take me to
the city I wanted to go to. ( adventure in itself ) What should have taken 6 hours
took 12, got in quite late and she insisted on seeing me that night, so she came to apartment.

Most women I met in public long before every going to apartment.
I have only used hotels a few times, only once did a girl come to hotel, but we had
seen each other on a few occasions.

My wife was in her city this summer, with connections she had beautiful apartment on
main square of city centre for $50 US a night, she could walk to everything.
Place was modern and very nice, I suspect you could not get that level of a hotel
for that kind of money.

Lastly as alluded to above, if I am taken advice on searching for women for long term relationships.
I will pay more attention to those who have succeeded and those who are serious about search.
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2019, 01:04:39 AM »
When it comes to recent - the dating aspect isn't relevant..

The actual travelling with a lady and booking into / entering said apartment / hotel IS..


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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2019, 09:21:11 AM »
I honestly cannot believe the OP is asking such a Q.

As andrewfi said, this is about trust.

Do you WANT to meet and sleep with someone you do not know?

Are you aware of the risks re STI's?

I have slept with someone I thought I knew and didn't insist on both of us having a STI check, first ...
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2019, 09:31:26 AM »
Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
Let's skip right over the possibility of prostitution and get to the other matter. Some countries require a lodging voucher (or similar pre-planned arrangements) and that can be daunting for the average westerner. I  am assuming that a woman from that general vicinity can navigate the requirements much easier and so treating you as a guest could very well be part of the culture. 

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2019, 10:28:35 AM »
Valenki, the suggestion you make would imply that the guy was staying at her apartment. I cannot imagine that happening very often and, by itself, opens up a whole different can of worms.

If one is renting a private apartment the documentation would normally be done by the letting agent.
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2019, 11:24:54 AM »
andrewfi
I can't speak for every country, person, or circumstance. I am only speaking in general, eastern European terms and saying that the situation where a woman from the  Federation might invite a pen pal (don't know what else to call it) to stay or share lodgings wouldn't be so outrageous if the terms of issuing a visa demanded certain requirements that are difficult for a westerner to sort out. It depends on so many things. Your nationality, the country you want to visit, prepaid travel arrangements, prepaid lodging, letters of invitation, etc. Having a written invitation and a place to stay makes things a whole lot easier. I am a Swedish citizen and as such travelling even during the Soviet era was relatively simple for me but very difficult for other nationals. How each country deals with it today is anyone's guess but I can say that visits to Belarus was extremely complicated until this new "non-visa" (ha-ha!) visa thing was introduced. In the end, a woman willing to invite you to stay with her (or to share a hotel room with her) is a  noble gesture and not-so-crazy at all.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2019, 08:34:31 PM »
Thanks for all the replies, especially those with first hand experience one way or the other. I was afraid I was in the minority for not ever attempting this, but it sounds like it's less common than my impressions led me to believe.

By the way, NS1, what road course are you on in that Mustang?

It looks a bit like the Esses at Sears Point.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2019, 11:23:56 PM »
Valenki, the suggestion you make would imply that the guy was staying at her apartment. I cannot imagine that happening very often and, by itself, opens up a whole different can of worms.

If one is renting a private apartment the documentation would normally be done by the letting agent.


I stayed at SC's place first, V stayed at mine first time...

The expression you are missing is "we are adults".

I am pretty certain that adults can agree to stay at each other's places for a first meet and  end up in a LTR and that  am NOT an outlier


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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2019, 07:47:49 AM »
moby, of course, you did that. We should expect nothing else.

That you did so does not mean that everyone will do so, that it is normal. I certainly did not suggest it was impossible.

Do you honestly think that most women would welcome a stranger into their homes for days or weeks on end?

Go, on try it, honestly.

For the more honest and less unusual readers of this thread, both today and into the future. How do you think your inamorata would cope with having a visitor in her home who she knew she had no interest in, or even worse, actively disliked? bearing in mind that the two had never met before?

Would you think it was polite, sociable, or even a cultural norm, to put somebody that you might become serious about in that position?

What kind of an insensitive cheapskate would one have to be to do that?
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2019, 09:03:04 AM »
To the Newbies who might be reading this thread. 

I'm out of the hunt, but when I was in the hunt I would write many,
many women then narrow it down to one*. Then I would spend a
month or two talking exclusively with her about everything under
the sun seriously considering her to be the future Mrs 2tallbill
and she was seriously considering wanting to be Mrs 2tallbill.

After spending every single day of two months talking about this
I get on a plane to see the girl. She is excited about finally meeting
me (as I am in meeting her) in person and meets me at the airport.

We meet, she likes me (so far) and I like her (so far) so we go to
the money place and exchange some of my dollars for rubles and
then we go to the apartment and meet the apartment rental lady
(it's usually a lady). We drop off our bags.

Then we go to the store and buys some essentials, bottled water
some, tea, eggs etc. something like a real couple would do.

This isn't a game, or a sex adventure it's boy meets girl and we
are both optimistic that this could be the one that we spend the
rest of our lives with. It's infinitely better to try this experiment
about getting to know each other in person in an Apartment
than a hotel.

Things work out for several days and she might want to introduce
you me to a few of her friends. They come over with a dish and we
eat dinner, have a few laughs and I try to win them over. This is
considerably more comfortable than trying this in a hotel.

During the day, I need to return messages, make sure that loved ones
know I am alive and return business correspondence, I have projects
that don't stop just because I am traveling and I tend to them while
a beautiful FSUW moves about the apartment usually in her
underwear straightening things and doing things that she
would very likely be doing if she were Mrs 2tallbill.

If you get a hotel, then you significantly reduce the chance of having
a beautiful FSUW walking around in her underwear doing domestic
type things. I remember those days fondly and recommend to any
of the newbies here that they should not forgo that experience.

If you have an 8 hour layover in _______ (name of city here) on
your way to ______________ (name of final destination here). Get
a hotel, get 4 hours of beauty sleep, shower, shave and shinola but
once you get to your destination get an apartment.   

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* I have also done visit many trips. I recommend getting an apartment
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2019, 02:02:05 PM »


Do you honestly think that most women would welcome a stranger into their homes for days or weeks on end?

WHAT a silly Q:

There are two TRs covering both meetings ... I 'missed' when you suggested they were 'dishonest / untruthful' in any way..


For the more honest and less unusual readers of this thread, both today and into the future. How do you think your inamorata would cope with having a visitor in her home who she knew she had no interest in, or even worse, actively disliked? bearing in mind that the two had never met before?

Strangely enough both these ladies judged it was 'safe' and 'adult' and both of 'em went on to spend 5 years or more in my company..

I've also posted on here the story of an Aussie guy who arrived in Siberia to stay at the apartment of a friend of V ( my russian ex-wife ) and the lady was on the phone to V saying, " OMG, I've asked this guy to stay for three weeks and  my first impressions aren't good" ..

They have been together for 11 years, and she lives in 'Oz with him ( W.Australia) .


Would you think it was polite, sociable, or even a cultural norm, to put somebody that you might become serious about in that position?

What kind of an insensitive cheapskate would one have to be to do that?

Someone who a lady feels happy enough to trust - having chatted by video online

If two adults feel they want to give it a spin - why not ?

Now you've had three examples

That you might suggest they are not 'truthful' or not 'normal' is revealing



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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2019, 04:15:11 PM »
So often people have the faulty thought process that goes 'I found somebody who would do this thing therefore all people will do this thing.' That's not how the world works, that's not how logic works.

That any person might come across a person willing to do any particular is hardly surprising, it is to be expected.

Think of it in this way: you might have the habit of not stopping your car on a red light. You might say 'I never had a problem with running red lights, therefore you should run red lights.'
The problem is that running red lights has risks for you and risks caused by you to other people. That you got away with your behaviour does not in any way indicate that running red lights is safe and risk free.

The same applies to the topic under discussion. I absolutely know that some women will take that chance. I also know that many will not and I explained why.
I don't really care about what any of you have done, or what your consorts gave agreed to. After all, I know that some of you are worth less than the dog shit I get under my shoes from time to time. However knowing what I know, I make a justified and objective observation and suggestion to help other reasonable, more valuable people succeed in their endeavours.

On the whole I have found that people who exhibit empathy tend to do rather better in their social dealings than those who do not. To those reading these posts from some rather silly people, think about what the people you are dealing with think and consider their position. Don't go out of your way to pressure them into actions just for your convenience and pleasure.
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2019, 04:48:57 PM »
So often people have the faulty thought process that goes 'I found somebody who would do this thing therefore all people will do this thing.' That's not how the world works, that's not how logic works.

That any person might come across a person willing to do any particular is hardly surprising, it is to be expected.

Think of it in this way: you might have the habit of not stopping your car on a red light. You might say 'I never had a problem with running red lights, therefore you should run red lights.'
The problem is that running red lights has risks for you and risks caused by you to other people. That you got away with your behaviour does not in any way indicate that running red lights is safe and risk free.

The same applies to the topic under discussion. I absolutely know that some women will take that chance. I also know that many will not and I explained why.
I don't really care about what any of you have done, or what your consorts gave agreed to. After all, I know that some of you are worth less than the dog shit I get under my shoes from time to time. However knowing what I know, I make a justified and objective observation and suggestion to help other reasonable, more valuable people succeed in their endeavours.

On the whole I have found that people who exhibit empathy tend to do rather better in their social dealings than those who do not. To those reading these posts from some rather silly people, think about what the people you are dealing with think and consider their position. Don't go out of your way to pressure them into actions just for your convenience and pleasure.

I will start by stating this. Since I have been at this site.

Andrew in some cases you have no first hand experience, you have not been to some of the towns,
cities or even countries  that are being talked about and that is relevant in this topic.

Equally if not more important you have never been in this search with the same process or goals
of the majority of people who have passed through this site. This makes you views different, understandable
as the process you wish to achieve ( whatever that is) is much different than most people who come here.

Yes many stories exist here of people that should never leave their basement.
But by the same token some very good people with very real experiences, with proper motives
have come and gone and in some cases are still roaming around here.

Your points are valid in some circumstances and not in others. Times are changing and so is how people
do things. If I have learned one thing through this, finding what works for each individual is very important.
Taking the advice of many and applying it to ones personality and comfort zones are important.
Along with the person they wish to meet and how.
There is nothing permanent except change.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2019, 05:32:47 AM »
NS1, yes, times are changing and my suggestion up thread reflects one of those changes.

Unlike you, I do not need to piss on an electric fence to know that doing so will hurt me. I am able to learn from experience and from the experience and knowledge of others. It is only fools who resent the knowledge of others and disdain the ability of people to learn in different and better ways.

While I respect experience, given the totality of knowledge available in our society, the people, such as yourself, who disdain to learn, can only be the least well informed in modern society.

Go find some electric fences, go piss on them, don't bother about taking heed of the words emblazoned upon the warning notices, after all, you need to experience it to know it, right?

Have a great day, go find some red lights and stop signs to ignore.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #44 on: October 17, 2019, 09:38:15 AM »
That's not how the world works, that's not how logic works.

You are correct, if you have only a few conversations with a
woman or you are meeting many then it would be unlikely
that a woman would want to shack up with you. I wouldn't
even ask (and I am fairly bold at such things).

However, if I talked to a woman for 3+ months every single
day. I would get an apartment and tell her what color of
underwear to wear to the airport (and she would know
that I would be checking).

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #45 on: October 17, 2019, 09:40:29 AM »
I would have had said underwear delivered before my visit ;)
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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #46 on: October 17, 2019, 11:38:02 AM »
NS1, yes, times are changing and my suggestion up thread reflects one of those changes.

Unlike you, I do not need to piss on an electric fence to know that doing so will hurt me. I am able to learn from experience and from the experience and knowledge of others. It is only fools who resent the knowledge of others and disdain the ability of people to learn in different and better ways.

While I respect experience, given the totality of knowledge available in our society, the people, such as yourself, who disdain to learn, can only be the least well informed in modern society.

Go find some electric fences, go piss on them, don't bother about taking heed of the words emblazoned upon the warning notices, after all, you need to experience it to know it, right?

Have a great day, go find some red lights and stop signs to ignore.

You're funny Andrew.
You learn by reading books and the trusted internet.
You live in a bubble. Your answer to everything when someone shows a reasonable
argument on a discussions that doesn't  suite your narrative is to insult.

Sad to be your age and can not read nor understand the world around you.
You were a piece of work when I was here before and spent far to much time arguing
with you, as I realized not worth the time and energy.

Now I feel sorry for you. Someone insists on how much he learns, has learned nothing.
Has not grown at all, instead is just becoming a bitter old man. Sad to see.
Save your arguments for someone who hasn't seen you as you are for years.


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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2019, 05:13:04 PM »
So often people have the faulty thought process that goes 'I found somebody who would do this thing therefore all people will do this thing.' That's not how the world works, that's not how logic works.


We may not agree on a lot, but we definitively agree on this.

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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2019, 06:34:16 PM »
Ns1, step back from your keyboard. Read what I have written.
Tell me what you don't agree with and why.

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Re: Ever had your first meeting with a woman by sharing the same hotel room?
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2019, 04:31:19 PM »
Ns1, step back from your keyboard. Read what I have written.
Tell me what you don't agree with and why.

[edited following complaint]

I think you and I discussing anything is pointless.
You may have nothing better to do, than to insult people.
But I do.

Why not make it simple.
You comment on what you believe, I will comment on what I believe
and let who ever is reading it decide for themselves.

We are both here for different reasons, even discussing that is pointless.

There is nothing permanent except change.


 

 

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