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Texan77:
In the USA the batteries are made here.   https://electrek.co/2017/03/23/tesla-gigafactory-aerial-picture/ Plant is expanded every year.

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bOX5ej9o2k As of now this plant produces more batteries for electric cars than all other plants in the world combine including China.

 Lithium batteries will be phased out soon and batteries that use more abundant materials will be used in the not so distant future. A new cutting edge capacitor is being developed that last much longer that the car and have the same weight and power storage lithium and able to charge much faster.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K8JIC-ov_Y

Lithium/cobalt battery will be history in the mid 2020's. Lithium and oil will disappear at the same time as needed fuel. One car manufacture is claiming to have this new solid state battery ready in 2020 but will just have to wait and see if it happens. Japanese is spending hugely on solid batteries to regain market share in battery business as so is Europe and the USA. These batteries should have more power density, be safer and use common materials.

China is working on getting its need for imported energy down to zero and is progressively looking at electric cars as a way of doing that. China the worlds largest oil importer is who will hurt Russia's oil market the most.
 
The sun will set on Russia if there claim to fame is raw materials. Russia days of selling oil and producing weapons are numbered.



B.B.:

--- Quote from: Texan77 on February 03, 2019, 06:22:40 PM ---The sun will set on Russia if there claim to fame is raw materials. Russia days of selling oil and producing weapons are numbered.

--- End quote ---

Wut? You mean that being a kleptocratic resource state is losing propositon in the long run?  Who knew?

Meanwhile, all the Haters have is denial of worldwide commerce, etc., because they can't let go of the Hate.  They keep doubling down on it. 

B/B

Texan77:
The battery Tesla makes mainly uses graphing and lithium. The sources for both elements are the USA, Mexico and Canada. There are other materials in the battery electrodes but none of them rare or quantities that are hard to buy. None of the raw material is being bought from Russia, China or any Asian countries.

http://fortune.com/2015/09/16/tesla-lithium-gigafactory-nevada/

Audi recently announced they will stop building gasoline cars by 2025. Only electric cars after that. Porch has just come out with a new electric car to try to complete with Tesla. BMW and VW are not far behind. After 2025 it might be hard to buy much of gasoline car in Europe unless it is used. China is not going to be left behind. I do not know where Europeans are going to get their batteries but the price better be cheap if there going to complete with Tesla.

This gigafactory ( 1 ) will be complete in 2020. They have the land already bought and plans being made to start gigafactory ( 2 ) as soon as this one is done.

Tesla has a sister company called Solar City. Solar City rent or sells solar panel/battery systems for houses. They expect to soon be the largest Utility in the USA with their systems powering more housing than any other power company and supplying more watts on a daily basics than any other power company in the country. Solar City uses these same batteries for their housing systems for night time power as Tesla uses in the cars.

andrewfi:
Texan77, I do not know where you get your 'information' from. Rechargeable batteries do not contain a substance called 'graphing'. The lithium used in the cells, manufactured by Panasonic and supplied to Tesla comes from all over the world. There is a plan to open a lithium mine near to the Tesla plant in Nevada but it is just that, a plan - a thing that might happen in the future. Among other sources, lithium used by Panasonic in Tesla cells comes from China, Australia, Chile.

Audi has not said they will stop producing gasoline-powered cars by 2025.

Far from expanding, SolarCity is contracting. During 2018 they closed 12 facilities in 9 states and reduced workforce by 9%.

By the way, where do you think the electricity to charge the batteries comes from? Pixie piss and unicorn shit? It comes from fossil fuels including oil. coal and natural gas.

Do you just imagine this stuff, or make it up as you go along?

2tallbill:

--- Quote from: andrewfi on February 05, 2019, 05:59:29 AM ---By the way, where do you think the electricity to charge the batteries comes from? Pixie
piss and unicorn shit? It comes from fossil fuels including oil. coal and natural gas.

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+100  (Including Nuclear)

The only way for Europe to go entirely to electric cars is by building Hundreds and
hundreds of new power plants in each country. There is no way to replace fossil fuels
with wind, solar or pixies.

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