Life in Russia - Locals and Visitors Discuss

[Seasoned]

     Aha, in that case all is well in Crimea. Problems are being picked up and solved and life gradually becomes better each year.         

Sure, if you say so that is, I am not really sure at all. But it will never see neither me nor my money under today's circumstances, hope it is ok with you all there. I don't like paying 100% on top, would rather spend about the same cash somewhere in Turkey or elsewhere, with much better services and without military fences with barbed wire blocking the sea view.   

[Markje]

     Aha, in that case all is well in Crimea. Problems are being picked up and solved and life gradually becomes better each year.         

Sure, if you say so that is, I am not really sure at all. But it will never see neither me nor my money under today's circumstances, hope it is ok with you all there.

I have no problem with that, its your money and you choose how to spend it. Some people never go anywhere beyond their hometown and others travel all over the globe.

I don't like paying 100% on top, would rather spend about the same cash somewhere in Turkey or elsewhere, with much better services and without military fences with barbed wire blocking the sea view.

In Evpatoria there are not military fences nor barbed wire. Its all tourist, tourist, tourist. Not really my ideal but the inlaws live there. Good Crimean shaslick is also a big bonus, I eat it for 20 days straight perhaps with some plogh for variation.

I will see if I can get some beach-pics of august 2018 on the board.

But the prices can't be helped. Hopefully it will go down when goods are being moved by the new bridge.

[rosco]

It is even worse - like 45% of the cars, say, in Saint Pete are credit ones (official stats, the number may be higher), many people cannot even afford those credits.

You mean like in the West? Cars are the next thing to bomb, without doubt. The amount of people driving about in £40k+ new vehicles paying £150/month is crazy.

In reality it should be £500/month but then it wouldn't sell. No cars on credit and nobody handing over huge sums of cash to watch it half in value two years later. The industry would be on its knees.

That's life...

[msmoby]

No Rosco,

Nothing like (say) the UK ,,no PCPs and interest rates FAR higher

I 'forgot' - you've bought car in Russia and would 'know; ....

[Markje]

or you buy a 3-4 year old second hand car. Its about 33% of the original price and mostly can be payed without credit.

[Markje]

My favorite beach Rodnichok@evpatoria in 2017:
https://www.dreamstime.com/transparent-water-beach-rodnichok-resort-town-evpatoria-crimea-republic-russia-july-image99749373

Wife said this year it is already very difficult to find a place to put down your towel if you arrive after 11 AM, its that busy with people.

[msmoby]

or you buy a 3-4 year old second hand car. Its about 33% of the original price and mostly can be payed without credit.

A another 'expert' re buying cars in Russia ... Cars do not depreciate like in the west - much slower - historically

Example one of my cars: Vauxhall insignia Estate 2012 diesel - worth c.5,700 Pounds and double that in Russia

[Seasoned]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
 
 

[msmoby]

Just took a screen grab from a beach I know in Sochi ....MANY times more people



Still the beach will be quieter for your, Markje

[Markje]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?

On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?

[rosco]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?

I always appreciate thoughtful contribution and respect alternative points of view, that's how we learn.

You seem quite keen to continually beat the same drum though. Just an observation.

[Markje]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?

On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?

Looks like it, crowd is now gathering here:
http://uastreaming.net/live/4/webcam-online-Evpatoriya-Restoran-%C2%ABBlack-Sea%C2%BB.html

[Markje]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?

On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?

Looks like it, crowd is now gathering here:
http://uastreaming.net/live/4/webcam-online-Evpatoriya-Restoran-%C2%ABBlack-Sea%C2%BB.html

Cool  , a breakdance show. Hopefully the fire-eater will also be here later and not further up the road like he usually is.

[AvHdB]

http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html

Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?

On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?

Looks like it, crowd is now gathering here:
http://uastreaming.net/live/4/webcam-online-Evpatoriya-Restoran-%C2%ABBlack-Sea%C2%BB.html

Cool  , a breakdance show. Hopefully the fire-eater will also be here later and not further up the road like he usually is.

What next ~ kaZantip returning?

[Seasoned]

      What next ~ kaZantip returning?             

Right:)

       You seem quite keen to continually beat the same drum though. Just an observation.       

Yes. The wake up and face the reality/smell the coffee drum. Sorry if it sounds too loud. Just believe me, I am saying only 10% of what I really think and share with you only 10% of what I really know. Such are the times.

[Manny]

And how is it Russia's fault that prices have soared and what can they do about it? Think like a gov't and not blame it. Crimea is effectively an island since Ukraine closed land-access to Crimea. I expect that now that the Bridge is open, prices will become more reasonable again.

I 'see' - so the four times increase in ferry traffic made no difference ?

I'm in another 'twilight zone' part of the world where most nations don't accept it's 'existence' and prices are much LOWER than the recognised part ..  One can't fly here direct, and there's no bridge - just ferries from the one nation that does 'recognise' it's existence ....

This 'twilight zone' is a place Crimea needs to learn from, it seems

What do you mean by "there's no bridge"? Are you suggesting the Kerch-Crimea bridge doesn't exist?

[AvHdB]

Seasoned, So you understand Moby's post are reviewed by moderators before they appear - it sometimes produces a slightly out of kilter posting time line. But it is preferable to Moby polluting every thread. As a suggestion I would learn how the quote feature works on RUA, it would make your posts more readable. As I have noted elsewhere sometimes Moby has at times a valid point but mostly he will argue which side of octagon is longer, it is tiring.

I suspect that Moby is referring to bridges in Turkey, Istanbul.

Some here can pay lip service to another standpoint but are so set in there viewpoints it becomes hard to alter there perspective. Seasoned you bring a sober and for some uncomfortable reality to the table. Please continue to share.

[msmoby]

Seasoned, So you understand Moby's post are reviewed by moderators before they appear - it sometimes produces a slightly out of kilter posting time line. But it is preferable to Moby polluting every thread. As a suggestion I would learn how the quote feature works on RUA, it would make your posts more readable. As I have noted elsewhere sometimes Moby has at times a valid point but mostly he will argue which side of octagon is longer, it is tiring.

I suspect that Moby is referring to bridges in Turkey, Istanbul.

Seasoned - I was comparing Crimea to the 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus'  ..Naturally, there is no physical 'bridge'

You'll have to excuse our Avi .   

[Seasoned]

     On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?       

When I was in the Crimea back in 2007 there were crowds on the beaches even during the night, there was a vibrant night life on the sea shore and in the vicinity. And sometimes, when I visited a beach like this, I had to go home if I didn't show up early enough because there was no free spot available, not a single square meter of free space. Such places used to be packed at five in the evening. It looks like something has gone terribly wrong.

[msmoby]

What do you mean by "there's no bridge"? Are you suggesting the Kerch-Crimea bridge doesn't exist?

Could I respectfully suggest you re-read what I posted !

You know perfectly well - I've seen the Crimea Bridge under construction

[Contrarian]

Seasoned, So you understand Moby's post are reviewed by moderators before they appear - it sometimes produces a slightly out of kilter posting time line. But it is preferable to Moby polluting every thread. As a suggestion I would learn how the quote feature works on RUA, it would make your posts more readable. As I have noted elsewhere sometimes Moby has at times a valid point but mostly he will argue which side of octagon is longer, it is tiring.

I suspect that Moby is referring to bridges in Turkey, Istanbul.

Some here can pay lip service to another standpoint but are so set in there viewpoints it becomes hard to alter there perspective. Seasoned you bring a sober and for some uncomfortable reality to the table. Please continue to share.

Someone is experiencing a lack of intelligence and comprehension problems, and Moby’s posting style contains more information than your own. 

He’s referring to Northern Cyprus. 

[Wiz]

I suggest to Seasoned and other members to read this article about Russia to enlighten them selves.

The Strangulation of the Russian Economy in the 1990s Was a Deliberate IMF policy

https://russia-insider.com/en/history/strangulation-russian-economy-1990s-was-deliberate-imf-policy/ri24210?ct=t(Russia_Insider_Daily_Headlines11_21_2014)&mc_cid=dc76b114b0&mc_eid=da9ae1910f

 

[Seasoned]

IMF is always pursuing its own agendas and the agendas of those who are behind it. It is not a charitfy fund, and even charity funds sometimes have undeclared agendas. Besides obtaining a valuable link from you, it would be nice to hear your even more valuable thoughts. I am not a fan of IMF but it doesn't make me a fan of Putin.

[Wiz]

Before replying to you in full, please take time and watch the video below.

Will be back late tonight..... and I will answer to you, except if I find a cheap ticket to Greece.... and go to visit my natural doctor..... that I have been visiting since 1995.

More details in my next reply!

As about Russia, I have to say: “Rome was not build in one day!”

Watch this Documentary made some 6 years ago by Greeks and tell me what it's not true?

Catastroika (English Subtitles)

Not a valid youtube URL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGSiqow9k4&t=53s

 

[Seasoned]

I know the works of Naomy Klein very well. However, it is supposed to be exchange of ideas here, not throwing some links about and asking "What is not true here?" Why? Because even a 5 years old kid can do it. So, offer your ideas, not links without them.
I don't view the West as some ideal paradise, but in economic terms it is far ahead of Putin's Russia. The rift widens every day, I think now we are like 50 years behind. And your link with the US bashing is not going to help us catch up with the US (or the West in general) at all, in my view.