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2018 New Car Observations
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:31:08 PM »
2018 BMW M5 — 600 horsepower, 553 ft. pounds of torque and for the first time ever it has 4 wheel drive. 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds! Price as tested— $127,295. (Road & Track)

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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2018, 01:38:15 PM »
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2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2018, 01:40:13 PM »
New for 2018 the BMW M5 has 4 wheel drive for the first time ever. A button can be pushed if one wants to switch to rear wheel drive only. The engine is a beast with 600 horsepower and 553 ft. pounds of torque. 0 to 60 happens in a blistering 2.8 seconds. Price as tested by Road & Track is $127,295.

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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2018, 01:49:43 PM »
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2018, 03:07:30 PM »
In the Netherlands this car will be 2ce as expensive, due to all those stupid taxes  :drunk:
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2018, 03:22:14 PM »
The engine is a beast with 600 horsepower and 553 ft. pounds of torque. 0 to 60 happens in a blistering 2.8 seconds. Price as tested by Road & Track is $127,295.

Does the vehicle arrive with its own personal chiropractor and/or neck braces?* 2.8 seconds is more allot more than fast.

*Perhaps a Russian model.
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2018, 03:27:57 PM »
Does it have no indicators (turn signals) like all BMW’s?


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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2018, 03:33:05 PM »
2018 BMW M5 — 600 horsepower, 553 ft. pounds of torque and for the first time ever it has 4 wheel drive. 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds! Price as tested— $127,295. (Road & Track)


Does the vehicle come with its own personal chiropractor* or neck brace?

The song noted though has nothing do with powerful cars.

*Hopefully Russian
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2018, 04:06:39 PM »
2018 BMW M5 — 600 horsepower, 553 ft. pounds of torque and for the first time ever it has 4 wheel drive. 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds! Price as tested— $127,295. (Road & Track)


Does the vehicle come with its own personal chiropractor* or neck brace?

The song noted though has nothing do with powerful cars.

*Hopefully Russian

You may need a chiropractor driving this thing!

The R&T reviewer referred to the engine as a hammer.  :chuckle:
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2018, 06:08:52 PM »
I bought myself this for Xmas.



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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2018, 06:14:50 PM »
I bought myself this for Xmas.



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Wifey copped for the Range Rover Sport I had already.



Very nice,  except the steering wheel is on the wrong side.  :)
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2018, 06:17:11 PM »
I bought myself this for Xmas.



Range Rover 4.4TDV8 Autobiography Black (special anniversary edition) - the best spec they made; 5 cameras, deployable sidesteps etc. Significantly cooler than any BMW.  :8)

Wifey copped for the Range Rover Sport I had already.

Congratulations!   tiphat  Very stylish!

Were I suddenly flush would still go for the BMW.  :chuckle:
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2018, 06:24:08 PM »
Very nice,  except the steering wheel is on the wrong side.  :)

When you've had both left and right hand drive as I have, and driven on both sides of the road, your brain adapts and after awhile you dont notice or care either way. LHD driving on the right or RHD driving on the left is an easy transfer for the brain - like a mirror. RHD on the right (as with us visiting Europe - as I was all last week) after a while becomes a normal thing too. I've done all variations for so many years now that I'm not really bothered what side of the car or road I am on. My wife, from a LHD country originally, says she prefers RHD and the left side of the road now. She was nervous last year driving her Dad's car in Russia because it was the *wrong* side of the road for her now.
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2018, 06:38:40 PM »
Congratulations!   tiphat  Very stylish!

Ta. My daughter is more thrilled as she can watch TV on the way to school - big novelty. And watch DVDs in the back on long trips. I've had a lot of good spec cars but I've never had one with this many toys and gadgets. Remote start and warm up? Heated steering wheel? (handy today as it was -8) Phone chargers? ipod docks? Remote control and bluetooth headphones for the rear screens? :coffeeread: It's more like a first class cabin in a nice airline. Amazingly, being a Range Rover, it all works (famous last words). Nothing has fell off or conked out yet.

Best thing is though, it goes like an effing train!  ;D  :king:

Were I suddenly flush would still go for the BMW.

At $127k? (£92k). You could buy a 2016, 3k mile, Bentley Flying Spur 4.0 V8 Sedan for that money.



Anyway, you cant buy German or British. Doesn't Trump say you have to buy a Chevy or a Buick or something to "Make America Great Again"?
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2018, 06:39:29 PM »
^ Sounds like you’re more adept than the average bear. I’ve never driven in the U.K. and would be apprehensive.
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 06:42:17 PM »
Congratulations!   tiphat  Very stylish!

Ta. My daughter is more thrilled as she can watch TV on the way to school - big novelty. And watch DVDs in the back on long trips. I've had a lot of good spec cars but I've never had one with this many toys and gadgets. Remote start and warm up? Heated steering wheel? (handy today as it was -8) Phone chargers? ipod docks? Remote control and bluetooth headphones for the rear screens? :coffeeread: It's more like a first class cabin in a nice airline. Amazingly, being a Range Rover, it all works (famous last words). Nothing has fell off or conked out yet.

Best thing is though, it goes like an effing train!  ;D  :king:

Were I suddenly flush would still go for the BMW.

At $127k? (£92k). You could buy a 2016, 3k mile, Bentley Flying Spur 4.0 V8 Sedan for that money.



Did you buy it New? Sounds mahhvelous! Price range?
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 07:20:46 PM »
Did you buy it New? Sounds mahhvelous! Price range?

My RR was used, 1 owner, 58k miles, which means everything that breaks has been fixed already and it was less than half the price it was 58k miles ago.

What I am driving was over £100k new, you can buy a modest house for that. I paid less than half that. It'll still be worth 87p in 3 or 4 years though. How it is....
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2018, 09:25:54 PM »
In the Netherlands this car will be 2ce as expensive, due to all those stupid taxes  :drunk:

Well you’ve got to pay for your Socialist paradise and someone must pay for Mohamed and his 8 kids.  :ROFL:
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2018, 12:18:07 AM »
Anyway, you cant buy German or British. Doesn't Trump say you have to buy a Chevy or a Buick or something to "Make America Great Again"?

I have wondered why Ford has not made a bigger push to get the Explorer into the European market. On almost every level it embarrasses the European 4 wheel drive SUV's, it is a mean vehicle on the numbers and gentle on the inside.
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Re: 2018 BMW M5 New Car Review
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2018, 01:54:53 AM »
In the Netherlands this car will be 2ce as expensive, due to all those stupid taxes  :drunk:

Well you’ve got to pay for your Socialist paradise and someone must pay for Mohamed and his 8 kids.  :ROFL:
That has nothing to do with the price of cars.

They simply want to encourage "economy" driving, as in: cars with 1-litre 3-piston engines are cheap, 300+horsepower V8 is expensive.
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2018, 01:06:21 PM »
Anyway, you cant buy German or British. Doesn't Trump say you have to buy a Chevy or a Buick or something to "Make America Great Again"?

I have wondered why Ford has not made a bigger push to get the Explorer into the European market. On almost every level it embarrasses the European 4 wheel drive SUV's, it is a mean vehicle on the numbers and gentle on the inside.

I've seen those in Russia. Might be the badge. Ford is a bit of a downmarket/midmarket badge here (Mustangs excepted). I haven't seen one inside but US market cars are usually let down by the interior trim and fit which wouldn't wash here if premium money.

Land Rover do a range of cars for those who want to spend less, the Sport, Discovery, Freelander, Evoke, etc.
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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2018, 09:04:02 PM »
I bought myself this for Xmas.



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Nice looking car, congrats.

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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2018, 05:15:47 AM »


Land Rover do a range of cars for those who want to spend less, the Sport, Discovery, Freelander, Evoke, etc.

Evoque..?

You forgot the Velar

If you want to understand

The Evoque / Velar are for those who value style over utilitarian - the Disco is more practical ( the Disco sport is the Freelander replacement ) - the RR Sport is for those who think a tall SUV can be sporty and the 'Proper RR ' is for those who want to be able to go off road and escape a muddy field when having a picnic at Badminton - for those with more money than sense ?


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Re: 2018 New Car Observations
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Did consider on last year, but servicing in Ru is atrocious, seems as if no one knows what they are doing, also many electrical problems probably due to the local conditions.

Eventually decided on an x5, very happy.


Selling like hot cakes in Sochi and VVP has - for now- a fleet of them - now seeing a few Jags

Looked at an E-Pace - for me Ma - as an alternate for the Evoque - but Jag / RR audio systems  - though sounding great - have a CRAP touch screen and the Bluetooth is shyte re audio commands and fights with the infinitely better google assistant. REALLY bad form

Currently have an Evoque, 5 year old RR Vogue, LR Disco - latest version in the immediate family - when it snows my Vauxhall Insignia Estate ( winter tyres ) far safer on steep hills ( up or down )

I really don't get why folks think it's 'sporty' to sit up high..

I worked out what I've spent in car depreciation/ servicing and would rather spend it on education for kids / grand kids, thanks
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