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UK online visa application application 'fun'
« on: October 05, 2015, 06:22:23 PM »
Trying to register SC for an 'account' to apply for a UK visitor Visa...

I get the message.. ''Your registration has been unsuccessful, please see the guidance at https://ukvi-international.faq-help.com''

Perhaps, the UK knows something I / we don't - but we cannot get past the first page - simply trying to register to apply for the visa...


Previously, I could do this from the UK and state I was applying on behalf of the applicant - done it MANY times.....


Could this be 'failing' before the first hurdle as I am in the UK and will have a UK IP address  ?








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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 07:30:15 PM »
update

Used a Russian VPN and STILL could not register...

The help site of the UK Visa site didn't help - so I searched for the error message on Google and found a link to THIS page... https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/Home/ViewFAQ

..and THERE was the answer .. ''You will not be able to register a new account under the same email address. If you have already registered and have forgotten your password use the link at
https://www.visa4uk.fco.gov.uk/Account/ForgottenPassword ''


Now, why can't they just do what most sites do - in such occasions - ''an account with this email address already exists'' - would have saved a lot of time..

 :-[


Now, another question arises.... I seem to remember Manny's wife was refused a US Visa - even though they were already married.

SC applied for a visa and was turned down and insists no reason was given ... Could that be so ?  The UK want to know the reason.







 

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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2015, 02:48:58 AM »
Now, another question arises.... I seem to remember Manny's wife was refused a US Visa - even though they were already married.

SC applied for a visa and was turned down and insists no reason was given ... Could that be so ?  The UK want to know the reason.

If this is the "have you ever been refused a visa" question, unless it is stamped in her passport, just say no. If they could check, they wouldn't ask.

But indeed, they don't give a reason. I think they just work to quotas. When its full, the rest that day/week are refused.
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2015, 02:54:18 AM »
Maybe the same god that looks after drunks and idiots is trying to keep one or other of you two safe?
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2015, 03:42:23 AM »




Now, another question arises.... I seem to remember Manny's wife was refused a US Visa - even though they were already married.

SC applied for a visa and was turned down and insists no reason was given ... Could that be so ?  The UK want to know the reason.

If this is the "have you ever been refused a visa" question, unless it is stamped in her passport, just say no. If they could check, they wouldn't ask.

But indeed, they don't give a reason. I think they just work to quotas. When its full, the rest that day/week are refused.

Hmm, just checked... no 'visa refused'  stamps in the passport.

Despite your advice - we are NOT going to be economical with the truth - and will be honest ...After all, a US refusal has never held back Mrs Manny ..and SC has had Schengen's, a current visa for Cyprus and numerous other s. Asian destinations - with no over-stays, owns property, has regular income....

Maybe the same god that looks after drunks and idiots is trying to keep one or other of you two safe?


Knew you wouldn't be able to contain yourself.. 
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2015, 09:03:51 AM »
After all, a US refusal has never held back Mrs Manny
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She lived here then; they (US) had no reason to refuse her. She has never applied for another proper visa anywhere since. No need.

If you tell the UK she has been refused a visa, they will have her do an interview.

You have already been economical with the truth pretending to still live with the previous one so she could stay here, so drop the high horse stuff. Our system is too weak that blokes can import one woman after another.
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2015, 10:33:46 AM »
After all, a US refusal has never held back Mrs Manny
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She lived here then; they (US) had no reason to refuse her. She has never applied for another proper visa anywhere since. No need.

If you tell the UK she has been refused a visa, they will have her do an interview.

You have already been economical with the truth pretending to still live with the previous one so she could stay here, so drop the high horse stuff. Our system is too weak that blokes can import one woman after another.
Positively fraudulent one could say.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2015, 11:14:56 AM »
WOT, moby less than scrupulously honest?

Say it ain't so!

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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2015, 12:30:10 PM »
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You have already been economical with the truth pretending to still live with the previous one so she could stay here, so drop the high horse stuff. Our system is too weak that blokes can import one woman after another.
Positively fraudulent one could say.

I suppose one could say that. Although, after his behaviour, it was probably the least he could do. I'd rather have her here than most who flock here though.

Let's hope he doesn't make a habit of it and import another handful before he is Westy's age.
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2015, 01:23:54 PM »

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If you tell the UK she has been refused a visa, they will have her do an interview.

Appt made and if she has to have an interview - so be it.

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You have already been economical with the truth pretending to still live with the previous one so she could stay here, so drop the high horse stuff. Our system is too weak that blokes can import one woman after another.



1/ I would rather tell the truth on an application for a visa - than be found out a fibber, later- and screw things up.

2/ So, please explain how/ where we [ V and I] misled the UK immigration authorities by being 'economical with the truth' ?  Their applications for permanent residence listed us at a different address and we were QUITE clear that we were separated.

Interesting - once again - that you might - once again - suggest impropriety.



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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2015, 02:47:36 PM »

Positively fraudulent one could say.

DS, I positively encourage you to report this as a possible infringement that you can report back to us  that some folks shouldn't judge others by their stds  :chuckle:

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I suppose one could say that. Although, after his behaviour, it was probably the least he could do. I'd rather have her here than most who flock here though.

Would that be the 'behaviour' that t'other party persuaded you to remove the discussion of.. ?  :chuckle:

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Let's hope he doesn't make a habit of it and import another handful before he is Westy's age.

Ah yes, it is my sole aim in life to be the object of your 'disgust'... SC hasn't experienced the delights of a British Isles autumn / winter and I'm sure we'll bear in mind your 'fears'.

We could even convert to Islam, foster loads of refugeed orphans and educate them about LGBT human rights  :chuckle:
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2015, 03:31:06 PM »
Would that be the 'behaviour' that t'other party persuaded you to remove the discussion of.. ?  :chuckle:

If you want to have it back "out there", I can do that in two clicks. I could then point 15000 links at it in moments to make sure it is top of Google within 24 hours. Be careful what you chuckle at, Joker.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2015, 03:33:56 PM »
2/ So, please explain how/ where we [ V and I] misled the UK immigration authorities by being 'economical with the truth' ?  Their applications for permanent residence listed us at a different address and we were QUITE clear that we were separated.

Interesting - once again - that you might - once again - suggest impropriety.

If you imported her as a spouse, and then got dumped, her status is no longer valid? Thus she should have been deported. Along with her offspring

Do teach us if it was otherwise. I am working from recollection of your words. Perhaps you found some obscure EU law as is your forte.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2015, 03:37:10 PM »

Positively fraudulent one could say.

DS, I positively encourage you to report this as a possible infringement that you can report back to us  that some folks shouldn't judge others by their stds  :chuckle:


Plain English, please.  ???
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2015, 03:37:29 PM »
Ah yes, it is my sole aim in life to be the object of your 'disgust'... SC hasn't experienced the delights of a British Isles autumn / winter and I'm sure we'll bear in mind your 'fears'.

We could even convert to Islam, foster loads of refugeed orphans and educate them about LGBT human rights  :chuckle:

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2015, 01:07:14 AM »


If you imported her as a spouse, and then got dumped, her status is no longer valid? Thus she should have been deported. Along with her offspring

Do teach us if it was otherwise. I am working from recollection of your words. Perhaps you found some obscure EU law as is your forte.

Manny,

You appear to be confusing words you wish you'd heard me utter with reality

Under the EU Directive V is entitled to remain in UK and entitled to residency - as she was married to me and UK resident for two years or more... it was actually 4 years when I got 'dumped'.

Her son was the reason we did not divorce, as his status - my dependent -would have been lost. He was studying in Oxford and would have become a non EU student and had to pay full fees and leave the UK after 8 years legal residence.

Despite my 'dumping', why should I have made the lad the object of my 'revenge' ?

The agreement was that we would remain married and I continued to support him - until he got permanent residency.

He has a fantastic Graduate Trainee post with one of the fastest growing and profitable IT firms

It is a shame I needed to repeat the situation.



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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2015, 01:25:32 AM »
More 'fun'

The cost of the General visitor visa is 85GBP

So,we got to the end of the Visa application and I shared my computer to allow SC to check the application and digitally sign.

We chose Rostov as the visa application centre - VAC- a message appears informing that using this centre will incur extra admin fees  ??? ..amount not shown..

Time to pay...

Was told at the beginning it would be 85gbp = 125 USD, approximately.

But, the final sum becomes 215 USD  -  100 USD, more - you are offered the chance to pay within three hours - or one's application and appointment are cancelled. :chuckle:

It's nearly cheaper to buy a return flight to Moscow...








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Positively fraudulent one could say.

DS, I positively encourage you to report this as a possible infringement that you can report back to us  that some folks shouldn't judge others by their stds  :chuckle:



Plain English, please.  ???

'Funny' that my calling you out seems to produce reading comprehension issues.

To be clear - as you often comment on immigration issues - I suspect you'l know the procedure to report the 'fraud' you suggest we've perpetrated. I invited you to report us and get back to us with the outcome...clear  ?
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Positively fraudulent one could say.

DS, I positively encourage you to report this as a possible infringement that you can report back to us  that some folks shouldn't judge others by their stds  :chuckle:



Plain English, please.  ???

'Funny' that my calling you out seems to produce reading comprehension issues.

To be clear - as you often comment on immigration issues - I suspect you'l know the procedure to report the 'fraud' you suggest we've perpetrated. I invited you to report us and get back to us with the outcome...clear  ?
"Calling me out" :-* you do get a bit full of yourself at times, don't you?
Still, your post was a bit of garbage garbled.
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'fraud' you suggest we've perpetrated
Please read and digest my post carefully. I was, as you well know, replying to Mannys post. Context is everything. Of course, your tactics are well known on this forum in attempting to muddy the waters but you'll  have to do better than that.

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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2015, 02:30:49 PM »

'Funny' that my calling you out seems to produce reading comprehension issues.

To be clear - as you often comment on immigration issues - I suspect you'll know the procedure to report the 'fraud' you suggest we've perpetrated. I invited you to report us and get back to us with the outcome...clear  ?


"Calling me out" :-* you do get a bit full of yourself at times, don't you?

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''positively fraudulent one could say''




Please read and digest my post carefully. I was, as you well know, replying to Mannys post. Context is everything. Of course, your tactics are well known on this forum in attempting to muddy the waters but you'll  have to do better than that.

 :ROFL: and you speak of a 'Moby shuffle' ?

Manny at least tried to dig himself out of the hole by offering me chance for me to explain the Directive and 'educate'.....


I would have though you'd know about such important Immigration key points relating to EU Directives to which the UK has not opted out..

Contextually, one could say DS was ''positively incorrect'' - but I'm the forgiving sort.  tiphat


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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2015, 02:49:04 PM »
I'm surprised Wiz didn't get in first  :chuckle:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/421235/Retained_Rights_v2_0.pdf

''End of relationship - separation
If a non-EEA national separates from their EEA national spouse or civil partner they remain a
family member with the right to live in the UK for as long as they are married to, or in a civil
partnership with, an EEA national sponsor who continues to exercise free movement rights in
the UK, or who has acquired a right of permanent residence. They continue to have a right to
live in the UK until such time as either:
 a divorce is finalised and a decree absolute is issued
 the marriage is annulled or
 the civil partnership is dissolved


cont...

''Requirements of regulation 10(5)(d)(i-iv)
Regulation
10(5)(d)
Conditions

(i) To meet the conditions of regulation 10(5)(d)(i) the applicant must:
 have been married to, or in a civil partnership with, the EEA
national for at least three years immediately before beginning
proceedings for divorce, annulment or dissolution, and
 have lived in the UK with the EEA national sponsor for at least one
year during the time of their marriage or civil partnership.''

I had to show that I was not a burden on the state, self-sufficient, self-employed, employed with financial / tax info...

WOT, moby less than scrupulously honest?

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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2015, 04:03:54 PM »
Now he'll be blaming you when his target's application is turned down. You're helping him out by giving him an excuse.
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« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2015, 06:23:02 PM »
Now he'll be blaming you when his target's application is turned down. You're helping him out by giving him an excuse.

It is always helpful to know who'd I be 'blaming' - judging by some of the 'experts' we've witnessed on this thread..

Naturally - if you'd ever had a non EU lass that you wanted to introduce to the relatives - you'd know that a refusal is a thing of dread and not something to joke about...

IF a refusal was the result - You can bet I'll get SC into the UK - legally.





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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2015, 03:48:47 PM »

'Funny' that my calling you out seems to produce reading comprehension issues.

To be clear - as you often comment on immigration issues - I suspect you'll know the procedure to report the 'fraud' you suggest we've perpetrated. I invited you to report us and get back to us with the outcome...clear  ?


"Calling me out" :-* you do get a bit full of yourself at times, don't you?

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''positively fraudulent one could say''




Please read and digest my post carefully. I was, as you well know, replying to Mannys post. Context is everything. Of course, your tactics are well known on this forum in attempting to muddy the waters but you'll  have to do better than that.

 :ROFL: and you speak of a 'Moby shuffle' ?

Manny at least tried to dig himself out of the hole by offering me chance for me to explain the Directive and 'educate'.....


I would have though you'd know about such important Immigration key points relating to EU Directives to which the UK has not opted out..

Contextually, one could say DS was ''positively incorrect'' - but I'm the forgiving sort.  tiphat

Here we go again.  :Zzzzsleep: Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself?
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Re: UK online visa application application 'fun'
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2015, 02:44:09 AM »

Here we go again.  :Zzzzsleep: Don't you ever get tired of repeating yourself?
Btw, quick tip...Google is your friend.

Google, Bing, etc., are of course my 'friends' ..

Remind me what that has to do with this thread or some folks suggestions demonstrating that checking such places - before posting - would be wise.


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