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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #150 on: July 24, 2015, 06:00:56 PM »
I added a 220v outlet for my clothes dryer four years ago and I'm still alive and the house hasn't burned down. :-))) In my first marriage we bought a huge Victorian that had wires and pipes that led to nowhere, Manny. It's crazy how they tried to fit things into those old big houses. As part of closing we had the seller rip out and replace all that crap. It was a buyers market :-)

I heard of 220v outlets in the US before, but I think they are not common? What were they typically used for?

Clothes dryers, Electric Stoves (Ovens). Water Heaters and Central Air Conditioning have 220V direct lines (no outlet).

Is that pretty universal or just in older houses?
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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #151 on: July 24, 2015, 09:12:22 PM »
I added a 220v outlet for my clothes dryer four years ago and I'm still alive and the house hasn't burned down. :-))) In my first marriage we bought a huge Victorian that had wires and pipes that led to nowhere, Manny. It's crazy how they tried to fit things into those old big houses. As part of closing we had the seller rip out and replace all that crap. It was a buyers market :-)

I heard of 220v outlets in the US before, but I think they are not common? What were they typically used for?

Clothes dryers, Electric Stoves (Ovens). Water Heaters and Central Air Conditioning have 220V direct lines (no outlet).

Is that pretty universal or just in older houses?

Universal, as far as I know. Washing machines, home fridges and other appliances are 110V.

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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2015, 11:39:58 PM »
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I added a 220v outlet for my clothes dryer four years ago and I'm still alive and the house hasn't burned down. :-))) In my first marriage we bought a huge Victorian that had wires and pipes that led to nowhere, Manny. It's crazy how they tried to fit things into those old big houses. As part of closing we had the seller rip out and replace all that crap. It was a buyers market :-)


I heard of 220v outlets in the US before, but I think they are not common? What were they typically used for?


Clothes dryers, Electric Stoves (Ovens). Water Heaters and Central Air Conditioning have 220V direct lines (no outlet).


Is that pretty universal or just in older houses?


Universal, as far as I know. Washing machines, home fridges and other appliances are 110V.
Might be similar to the appliances (induction stove for example) we have here. Some require 380V if I recall correctly and they use 2x 220V for that ;-)


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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2015, 12:02:30 AM »


The Yanks typically have centre tapped transformers which allows 110/240ish from the same supply. All those 2 pin pronged plug sockets run at half the Voltage and the power thirsty appliances such as ovens (and generally items that produce heat) run at the higher voltage.

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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2015, 12:14:11 AM »
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Universal, as far as I know. Washing machines, home fridges and other appliances are 110V.
Might be similar to the appliances (induction stove for example) we have here. Some require 380V if I recall correctly and they use 2x 220V for that ;-)


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The 380/400v generally requires a 3 phase supply which is uncommon in most domestic properties Some countries such as Switzerland do differ. You may have 3 phase in your home in NL?

In a situation where you have 2 terminals in a hob or oven but a single phase supply typically the manufacturer will provide a link piece of copper to join them up so they run off your 220/240 supply.

This allows the manufacturer to produce 1 unit for sale across all of Europe.
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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2015, 03:44:15 AM »
11 pages when all you had to do is ask the "old" retired gent in the complex (or nearby) to do it for 3-500 rubles.

I tried wiring some new switches my landlord gave me to replace the old ones only to find that the switches were different than the ones I was replacing (thought i'd just put them in simply by duplicating the wiring process :chuckle:).

After a few failed attempts, and not wanting to risk bodily harm :), I called a pensioner I had met shortly after I moved into my complex. Not only did he charge me just 300 ru., he enjoyed having something to do and feeling useful, and having someone to talk to, not to mention his feeling of superiority over "helpless" me :laugh:.

Even when I have simple jobs around the flat that I can easily handle, I'll called him to take care of it. At his pension, his fee and age, it's a win-win all around for all concerned.
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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2015, 04:03:21 AM »
11 pages when all you had to do is ask the "old" retired gent in the complex (or nearby) to do it for 3-500 rubles.


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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2015, 04:26:10 AM »
11 pages when all you had to do is ask the "old" retired gent in the complex (or nearby) to do it for 3-500 rubles.

I tried wiring some new switches my landlord gave me to replace the old ones only to find that the switches were different than the ones I was replacing (thought i'd just put them in simply by duplicating the wiring process :chuckle:).

After a few failed attempts, and not wanting to risk bodily harm :), I called a pensioner I had met shortly after I moved into my complex. Not only did he charge me just 300 ru., he enjoyed having something to do and feeling useful, and having someone to talk to, not to mention his feeling of superiority over "helpless" me :laugh:.

Even when I have simple jobs around the flat that I can easily handle, I'll called him to take care of it. At his pension, his fee and age, it's a win-win all around for all concerned.
Seeing the quality of work from the "locals", I prefer them not to touch things that concerns my safety ;) First hand experience at my MIL: Cable was split and twisted together, insulated with Tesa to make a branch. Connecting a too powerful device could easily lead to a short circuit and fire. No thanks ;) Other experience was floor heating which should be connected in parallel according tot the instructions, however the helpful neighbor thought that wasn't necessary. I rewired it properly after he was gone :P

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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2015, 04:35:40 AM »
Never had  problem in 11 years, even at first when the guys I called (masters) would show up drunk. The pensioners that help maintain buildings here are well versed in plumbing, electrical, etc., IMO, and are often asked for assistance by most of the building tenants. I'm not talking about pulling some "old" guy out of his daily slumber, or the "helpful" neighbor.

Your situation seemed to call for a more experienced person.

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Re: wiring an electric plug in Russia
« Reply #159 on: July 27, 2015, 01:56:58 AM »
It seems the situation is the same here, in the Stans. Russian masters do all the wiring, and it is poorly done. The floor main switch room is a real mess, and only one breaker is used for the whole flat. It would probably never trip, in case of a short or fire. Earth protection is inexistent, and the electricians do not understand it anyway. :'(
I had to ground a few appliances myself, so that it got done.


 

 

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