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Offline Vocativ

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I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« on: November 12, 2014, 01:59:29 PM »
cl55amg, the thing is that this is a discussion forum. It ain't just about you. Now, while I may be one of the many who understands that what we write tells others about us I also know that there will be all sorts of different people reading these posts. So points are made that are not just about you, but about other people, other cases and, of course, replies to other posters.

So,when all is said and done, the title of the thread that you chose reflects your thinking, it was not a random choice. Replying to what you wrote kinda makes sense, doesn't it?

Glad that you came to know that which we pointed out to you. You saved yourself some trouble. Chances are that if you consider that which was written in this thread that you will be better able to do some objective analysis and save yourself a load of time and effort. ;)

Simply answering the question to the best of one's ability rather than analyzing why I asked it would have been preferred.  As one poster noted, it is a natural question.  Persuading a lady to leave her homeland and family is surely one of the challenges in this endeavor.

You might wish to consider somewhere besides Ukraine or RUssia for that matter.
few little issues going on over there, that likely won't favour western visitors.

It definitely puts a damper on many already deep in the process also.  I am not sure what my options are anymore much less someone knew to the scene.

You guys that have your GF's and wives on this side of the world are fortunate indeed.

My wife is currently in Ukraine and we are in the paper process. ahead of some and I can travel there if needed.
Hopefully she will be here by the end of the month for a bit. Her son will not be able to come yet.
They are not in any immediate danger area, but Putin is just getting started, who knows, this time next week.

I feel your pain Mike. Even traveling to Russia at the moment and being from the west, is likely something
people should be careful with, I am sure we are not being portrayed in a good light, considering.

Hey Man!

My name is Nicholas Platt and I'm a producer for a small digital company based in NYC. I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides. I think it is fascinating and I would love to learn more. Would you or any of your friends take a minute to talk with me on the phone?

Best,

Nicholas

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 05:56:46 PM »
  With the medias track record on these foreign bride shows, I'd say you don't have much hope here. But hey, I could always use a few extra dollars, why not take my trip report and turn it into a movie! I'm Canadian, so just make the guy American because that's what Americans want to see on the big screen. Funny everyone else in the world is ok with watching American this and that saving the world.
Anyway, the  last guy that began a screenplay gave up on it after some of his inner circle gave its direction some bad reviews.

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 01:28:43 AM »
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<<

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2014, 04:22:02 AM »
It's unlikely there will be a shortage of 'Jersey Shore' style wannabes and losers tripping over themselves to get their mugs in front of a camera.

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 07:31:27 AM »
Yeaahhhh.....after having a look at your (horrible) website and all your questions about sex in chat yesterday, there's no way I'd give you the time of day, much less anything else.  Typical click bait, liberal shit head garbage.  :sick0002:

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 01:28:02 PM »
@Anathema, Well you gave me that lovely comment...so at least there's that  :loving: Sorry for rubbing you the wrong way  :bow:

@ECR844, I'm looking for a person who is honest and looking for love with a Ukrainian...not Snookie!

@Manny, Only the finest internet articles for you   :biggrin:

@Donhollio, feel free to shoot me an email nplatt@vocativ.com  :plane:


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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 01:33:57 PM »
The headlines from this rag read like some  low brow National Enquirer.

https://www.vocativ.com/world/ukraine-world/


edit to add
 More "Journalism" from this guy about vampires.

http://muckrack.com/nicholas-graham-platt/articles
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 01:41:29 PM »
High brow journalism indeed: http://www.vocativ.com/culture/fun/putin-phone/

 ;D ;D ;D

shhh, let us not judge too harshly, as judging by the picture, Mr. Platt seems to be barely legal

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 01:45:31 PM »
"Nicholas Graham Platt

Nicholas began his career as a fixer in Paris before moving to NYC to make documentaries."


 Isn't a 'fixer' the same as a 'community organizer'?   :ROFL: tiphat :ROFL:
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 01:53:39 PM »
@Manny, Only the finest internet articles for you   :biggrin:

It was most helpful. I know a fellow who used to be a Kremlin advisor, I didn't know what to get him for Christmas. He says Russian Standard is a peasants drink so I was at a loose end. But the Putin phone your razor sharp journalism uncovered may be the answer.  :chuckle:

Instead of lurking on our chat room, why not tell the good people on this topic more about the story you are hoping to develop?

What is your slant on the subject matter?

Perhaps in order that people may trust and cooperate with you, you can link us to some of your work with a little more gravitas?

Do you have any experience in the subject matter? Travelled to the FSU?
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<<

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 01:55:24 PM »
@akmike I work for the Internet...What did you expect..me to be 80 years old on using Reddit??! Also a fixer is someone who helps productions work across international borders.


@Manny, I'm not a journalist...its just a word I use to help people understand what I do. I tell video stories. Blood sucking vampires....pretty  :censored: ing cool story. You can watch the piece here if you like


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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 01:56:24 PM »

 Isn't a 'fixer' the same as a 'community organizer'?   :ROFL: tiphat :ROFL:

To my non-native ear it sounds like: "I'm Winston Wolf. I solve problems."  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 02:10:54 PM »
@Manny, I don't have a slant that I know of. We would just like to follow someone as they prepare to leave on a trip from the USA to the Ukraine. Would love to tell you more over the phone. Would it be possible to talk on the phone?


As for my work you can watch anything on season 2 of VICE on HBO or you can watch any of the VICE Reports episodes like this one (My personal favorite is the You dont know shit episode)

I have experience covering the Ukrainian conflict but I don't know anything about this industry other than the romance tour services that I've spoken with on the phone in Ukraine. That is why I am on here. To learn and let you guys tell me what the story is but I do prefer speaking on the phone because so much gets lost in my typing. 347-923-5572

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 02:14:35 PM »
I have experience covering the Ukrainian conflict

How much time have you spent in Ukraine for this coverage of the invasion?

And for who were you working?
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2014, 02:22:44 PM »
  I think Censu is departing this week for Kivi to go see his GF.  :hidechair:

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 02:26:35 PM »

As for my work you can watch anything on season 2 of VICE on HBO or you can watch any of the VICE Reports episodes like this one (My personal favorite is the You dont know shit episode)

Cool  :thumbsup: More so, that it's about my countrymates!  :ROFL: (I am being serious, i am from Monte.)
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 01:41:26 AM »
  I think Censu is departing this week for Kivi to go see his GF.  :hidechair:

Tomorrow I also will head to Kivy, I offered to help Voc, but he declined.
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2014, 03:12:50 PM »
@Donhillo Thanks Ill reach out to him!

@volshe Pink Panthers are a pretty interesting group of thieves.....that was a very interesting

@avhdb I sent you a message? Did you receive it?

Still would love to talk with anyone on the phone

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2014, 10:29:27 AM »
@Manny, I don't have a slant that I know of. We would just like to follow someone as they prepare to leave on a trip from the USA to the Ukraine. Would love to tell you more over the phone. Would it be possible to talk on the phone?


As for my work you can watch anything on season 2 of VICE on HBO or you can watch any of the VICE Reports episodes like this one (My personal favorite is the You dont know shit episode)

I have experience covering the Ukrainian conflict but I don't know anything about this industry other than the romance tour services that I've spoken with on the phone in Ukraine. That is why I am on here. To learn and let you guys tell me what the story is but I do prefer speaking on the phone because so much gets lost in my typing. 347-923-5572

There is a formula to be followed or you won't be published. You must cover most if
not all of these bases.

1.  All men who seek an FSUW are losers/control freaks/wife beaters
2.  All women who seek a Western man are desperate
3.  Men go to the FSU to find a submissive*** wife  :laugh:
4.  The men are wife beaters
5.  The women are desperate and or scammers
6.  Find the oldest stupid idiot with the youngest bleached blond girl
7.  The bleached blond girl must have black roots at least 3" wide
8.  All the girls must be referred repeatedly as Mail Order Brides (MOB)
9.  Never show a normal couple
10.Bring up human trafficking, murdered girls and scammed men

You should have all ten of those items in your article for it to be published. 

If you use normal relationships you will never be published.
It's unlikely that you will find somebody here to trust you.
You might be better off contacting AFA, Anastasiadate or one of the agencies
who do tours. They want the publicity.

EXTRA POINTS

1. Invite a butch feminist on from NOW and have her describe the process for you.
2. Find one of the situations where a woman was killed by her husband.
3. Use innuendo about possible human trafficking of minors (it's impossible since
the USCIS is involved)
4. Find an idiot old as possible who was taken to the cleaners by his exwife
5. NEVER SHOW A SUCCESSFUL MARRIED COUPLE !!!!

 
**** FSUW are not submissive in the least, but go ahead and pretend that
they are anyway as it's part of the formula that must be adhered to. 
FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2014, 10:38:28 AM »
You can always contact Tahrih Justice for some for qoutes. I will contact you when I return to the US
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2014, 10:51:08 AM »
You can always contact Tahrih Justice for some for qoutes. I will contact you when I return to the US

There will be the obligatory discussion of Indle King.

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2014, 05:25:37 PM »
@Manny, Would love to tell you more over the phone. Would it be possible to talk on the phone?

As tempting as that is, I will have to decline a free phone session with a junior hack. We do offer phone consultation @ $70 ph. PM me if you need a payment link.
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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2014, 01:10:44 PM »
@Manny + 2tallbill, I have heard the concerns of many people on this website about an unfair portrayal in the media. This is exactly why I have come onto this website to reach out to you guys, to tell the story differently, as a love story.

@avhdb, sounds good! looking forward to hearing from you!

@Larry, I am not sure I understand that reference?

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2014, 01:23:49 PM »
You can always contact Tahrih Justice for some for qoutes. I will contact you when I return to the US

There will be the obligatory discussion of Indle King.

@Manny + 2tallbill, I have heard the concerns of many people on this website about an unfair portrayal in the media. This is exactly why I have come onto this website to reach out to you guys, to tell the story differently, as a love story.

@avhdb, sounds good! looking forward to hearing from you!

@Larry, I am not sure I understand that reference?

Indle King murdered his wife Anastasia from Kyrgyzstan.  Many writers doing pieces on international relationships, especially those between American guys and FSUW, dwell on this case at great length.

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Re: I am trying to develop a story about Ukrainian brides
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2014, 11:54:32 PM »
Are you trying to tell me this wasn't true love?


 

 

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