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Dogsoldier:

--- Quote from: Manny on March 23, 2014, 11:18:29 AM ---
--- Quote from: Dogsoldier on March 21, 2014, 03:30:23 AM ---The BBC isn't state funded.

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It is funded by a TV tax imposed by law on the people. That, whilst not direct state funding, is state mandated funding by extortion of the people.

Americans that cannot beleive such a thing can exist can read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC#Revenue

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So is your council tax. You going to stop paying that too?

On the whole, I think the BBC delivers a pretty good service and it's content is ad free. That by itself is one heck of a plus. Yes, it has issues with a slight left leaning bias on some programmes but by and large it's reporting is objective.
Like many large organisations it has issues around renumeration and spending.

andrewfi:
While I am not as anti to the BBC as Manny is one thing is true. Over the past 20 years or so the BBC has changed. At one time I would be happy to take comment and analysis by the BBC as being neutral and reliable. I no longer am so sanguine about doing so. They are not a bunch of shysters but my impression is that they are more likely to toe the official line than they would at one time have been.

There are times when I absolutely expect that pretty much any news outlet, in any country, will end up self censoring or being censored. The BBC IMHO does or is so more than used to be the case.

Manny:

--- Quote from: Dogsoldier on March 23, 2014, 01:02:00 PM ---So is your council tax. You going to stop paying that too?

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Well, I have my views on that too. But that is a necessary thing overall that pays for local services like fire departments and police, so not really the same as the BBC old chap.


--- Quote from: Dogsoldier on March 23, 2014, 01:02:00 PM ---On the whole, I think the BBC delivers a pretty good service and it's content is ad free. That by itself is one heck of a plus.

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I'll agree with that mostly. Although stuff like the Irish channel and the obscure Asian and other "inclusive" channels that make a loss should be cut.


--- Quote from: Dogsoldier on March 23, 2014, 01:02:00 PM ---Yes, it has issues with a slight left leaning bias on some programmes but by and large it's reporting is objective.

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Slight?  :ROFL:

If you accept global warming, that our Range Rovers are killing the polar bears, that all schools should teach Urdu, that mass immigration is a good thing, that any minority whatsoever should be "included" whatever the cost and a whole heap of other fuzzy thinking leftist tripe, then you may say slight.

I think most people know the BBC is now a very left leaning organisation. The danger lies when people who remember when it was relatively impartial trust its content to still be so.


--- Quote from: Dogsoldier on March 23, 2014, 01:02:00 PM ---Like many large organisations it has issues around remuneration and spending.

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You mean it has to publish no proper accounts and no account for its ridiculous spending to anyone? Yes, we agree there.

I believe the TV licence should be a choice. I don't want to fund an organisation that covers up for paedophiles and holds itself unaccountable to the people who pay for it. Thankfully, there are several legal ways to circumvent the tax. I haven't paid it in years, and so many others haven't that they are now pushing through scrapping it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10685761/BBC-report-proposes-scrapping-licence-fee.html


--- Quote from: andrewfi on March 23, 2014, 02:55:49 PM ---Over the past 20 years or so the BBC has changed. At one time I would be happy to take comment and analysis by the BBC as being neutral and reliable. I no longer am so sanguine about doing so. They are not a bunch of shysters but my impression is that they are more likely to toe the official line than they would at one time have been.

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I agree.


--- Quote from: andrewfi on March 23, 2014, 02:55:49 PM ---There are times when I absolutely expect that pretty much any news outlet, in any country, will end up self censoring or being censored. The BBC IMHO does or is so more than used to be the case.

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Agree again.

If any reading Brits want to know how to legally avoid the TV tax, with no hassle or door knockers, I'll put something together.

Dogsoldier:

--- Quote from: Manny on March 23, 2014, 03:16:10 PM ---

Well, I have my views on that too. But that is a necessary thing overall that pays for local services like fire departments and police, so not really the same as the BBC old chap.

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I was merely illustrating that any kind of taxation, while unwelcome, is st times a necessary evil.


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I'll agree with that mostly. Although stuff like the Irish channel and the obscure Asian and other "inclusive" channels that make a loss should be cut.

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Aren't they chopping some channels like BBC3? Complete waste as far às I'm concerned.


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If you accept global warming, that our Range Rovers are killing the polar bears, that all schools should teach Urdu, that mass immigration is a good thing, that any minority whatsoever should be "included" whatever the cost and a whole heap of other fuzzy thinking leftist tripe, then you may say slight.

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Well, i think your pov swings to the extreme of centre. I don't think the BBC is alone here in propagating a leftist bent. Channel 4 is even more and that IIRC is also taxpayer funded.


--- Quote ---You mean it has to publish no proper accounts and no account for its ridiculous spending to anyone?

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The Bbc produces an annual report and accounts which are laid before parliament. My point was more about the pay offs to the top bosses.

--- Quote ---I believe the TV licence should be a choice.

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I agree.




Vinnvinny:
An organisation as large and diverse as the BBC will never be perfect and will inevitably have its detractors.

Taking into account the at times extraordinarily high content of both its radio and television output, I believe that paying 39p a day to keep it commercial free is well worth the money and I’m happy to pay it.

Hopefully one day the technology will be available to prevent the likes of Manny and others freeloading on my dollar.

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