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Fast food, FSU style
« on: September 04, 2010, 11:56:00 AM »
So you're out enjoying the sights with a lady and both of you are hungry. Some will find it good news that you don't have to try an unfamiliar Russian dish at every meal. There are some foods that are shared both in the West and the East.

Like the хот-дог. You know, hot dog.

Okay, so it's a cognate, a borrowed word from another language, but she will definitely know what it is. Even if she doesn't believe a hot dog to be healthy (newsflash: Russians/Ukrainians believe that almost ALL Western foods are unhealthy), likely she'll find it fun to introduce you to a real Moscow experience--


Stardogs.


Advertised as a "Danish hot dog."


You can find Stardogs all over Moscow and in many Russian cities. Stardogs is also in Kiev (Kiev, Ukraine) too. Choose from small cafe "food court" type formats inside malls or try the best--a Stardogs street kiosk.





"Big French" for big appetites.


The use of an "s" at the end of the Cyrillic spelling, the relationship with Pepsi, and the familiar corporate font sizes signal to USA travelers that Stardogs is related to the Western "Nathans" hotdog chain.





The new Stardogs "Сонорa, Мексика" (Sonora, Mexico) dog features a Danish style roll with the sausage wrapped up in bacon and smoothered with poblano and Chile peppers, cheese, tomato, onions, and beans. The same "dog" can be found in selected USA markets at Nathan's locations.




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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 09:59:51 AM »



The new Stardogs "Сонорa, Мексика" (Sonora, Mexico) dog features a Danish style roll with the sausage wrapped up in bacon and smoothered with poblano and Chile peppers, cheese, tomato, onions, and beans. The same "dog" can be found in selected USA markets at Nathan's locations.


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Sonora is a Mexican state that borders Arizona and I'm pretty sure Mendeleyev has probably visited at least once  :)

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 03:42:18 PM »
From the Mendeleyev Journal:

Knockoffs can be found in almost any part of the world and the FSU isn't about to left behind when it comes to stealing a good idea. Starbucks immediately comes to mind--a Russian company held the rights to the name and while Coffee House, McCafe and others were making a killing, Starbucks sat on the sidelines for years as legal cases slowly drug their way thru the Russian courts. Today Starbucks can be found in the FSU, but they're a baby still due to so much lost time.

One of the most common knockoffs is McDonalds, МcДональдс.

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Not quite McDonalds in Ukraine's Yalta area.

There was a rumour for awhile that McDonalds was considering the purchase of one Russian ripoff, McPeak, but they haven't done so as far as I know.

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McD....wait, Mak Duck?!

Another blatant knockoff is McFoxy, the Ukrainian ripoff of McDonalds.  McFoxy is Ukraine's version of a McDonalds knockoff.

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Here, have a coupon for the next time you're in Ukraine:



   
McDonalds is suing McFoxy in Ukrainian courts.

Speaking of McDonalds and lawsuits, Mickey D recently won a land mark case in Russia, a case which observers say will forever change the Russian fast food market. For those who say that the entire Russian judicial system solely favours the home team, you may wish to think twice.

The Moscow Oblast Federal Tax Authority had set tax rates at 18% for restaurants. McDonalds sued, and won, by convincing the court that it is not a restaurant but instead, a grocery store/market for prepackaged foods.

McDonalds attorneys were able to successfully argue that their chain of stores provides no traditional restaurant services. Instead they sell preprepared and packaged food, when customers come in to order it. They were able to prove that most of their food is prepared in advance and the final packaging is completed as it is ordered by a customer.

If that a ripoff to Russian consumers? Well not really as smart businesses generally pass along increased costs and that is one cost that will not be "on the menu" however other restaurants will benefit from the same ruling. Now McDonalds, McPick, KFC, McBlin, Burger King, Wendys and many other fast food restaurants will enjoy the 10% sales tax instead of the 18%.

Just in case you're wondering, traditional restaurants must continue to pay the 18% VAT.



Hmm...it's not McDonalds!


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We leave this report with a flashback to the day in 1990 when the first McDonalds opened in Moscow, a Canadian venture, so for this report we go to the archives of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation:

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 04:35:59 AM »
From the Mendeleyev Journal:




Hmm...it's not McDonalds!



Although they do other things as well, the basic thing they sell is the шаурма - shaurma. 





I don't know how to describe it to Americans, but for anyone else, it's basically a doner kebab in a sort of tortilla wrap instead of pitta bread.


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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 09:03:50 PM »
Nick, I believe that шаурма is a Middle Eastern food and popular in major Russian cities, Caucasian areas, Armenia, Georgia, and the "Stans." Shawarma is made by alternately stacking strips of fat and pieces of seasoned meat (lamb, goat and marinated chicken) on a metal stick. The meat is roasted slowly on all sides as the spit rotates over a flame for hours. Most of these city kiosks sell rotisserie chickens as well.


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This guy really gets into his work...like watching a show while the food is prepared:

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 09:15:55 PM »
Wifey says it tastes similar:



http://miamisubs.com/menu  (Pita)

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 09:20:08 PM »
Wifey says it tastes similar:

GOB

Yes, very much like some of the Greek pitas that look similar to the ones in your photo.

I used to buy rotisserie chickens from these Moscow kiosks often but so many specials on TV about the quality and sanitation (lack thereof) that I've stopped.


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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 09:46:43 PM »
So, did you live?

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »
Hi Wayne,

Yes!

But there are videos out there on TV and YouTube that make me question whether or not I'd do it again.  :)

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 10:49:57 PM »
When I was in Seoul, I think they told us there were 50,000 cases of food poisoning a year ....

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Hey!  I need some contacts .....

Now that you are slowing down.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2012, 02:18:29 PM »
Nick, I believe that шаурма is a Middle Eastern food and popular in major Russian cities

Mendy,

Thanks, I didn't quite know how to explain it to Americans and I quite understand the need to give a full description for the Americans reading here.


For the benefit of Americans, this is also popular in the UK, Australia and quite a few parts of Europe as well under the name of doner kebab.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2012, 10:09:02 PM »
As I wonder about the Donner Party I am not sure a Donner Kebab will go over well in the States than again Americans and history have a pretty short memory combination.

The Shawarma (Donner Kebab) meal is not unlike Baklava which one can sample from most of the Eastern parts of the Mediteraen to up in to the Southern Slavic regions.

In fact while I enjoy Baklava I tend to try to eat a limited amount.

So lets talk about Baklava now.
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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 02:56:18 AM »
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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2014, 03:30:20 AM »
Few things capture the taste buds like Russian blini, those crepe styled thin buckwheat pancakes found on almost every street corner in most Russian and Ukrainian cities. Inside there can be sour cream, cheese, pickles, salmon, ham, fruit, or other ingredients as you wish. My MIL likes ice cream inside a blini--for breakfast.


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Of course blini can be served inside a mall or shopping centre, too.

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Oh, so you Western guys don't think that blini is SEXY? Hmm, this will change your mind!

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Trivia question:

- Fast food chain Теремок specializes in blini and has almost as many locations as McDonalds across Russia. How well do they do selling blini?

Answer: By 2010 Teremok was grossing over $100 million (dollars) annually.


Finally, there is hope for you folk who want to try this at home. We've invited the young journalists from Moscow-based Bears & Vodka productions, the same guys who produce the funny newscasts of real Russian news, to show us how to make Russian blini at home--in 60 seconds or less!

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2014, 03:44:55 AM »
Is Yolki Palki considered a fast food establishment? It has a wide range of "Russian soul food" but seemed quite stodgy and bland to me compared to somewhere like Mu-Mu (but that's probably not really a fair comparison). The all-you-can-eat buffet was a big hit with my girlfriend's mum!

I had a quite wonderful blini with condensed milk at a fast food place in a shopping centre but I forget the name of it.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2014, 04:08:49 AM »
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Is Yolki Palki considered a fast food establishment?

That is a good question and I'm curious as to how you would view it? It is on one hand a place to grab a quick bite and on the other hand folk do some and sometimes sit for a comfortable meal but one could say the same about Rostik's/KFC, too. I'd perhaps think of it in the same way of a TGI Friday's in some respects but yeah, it is faster.

For those yet to travel, Ёлки Палки is a food chain in the FSU, mainly in larger cities. The name comes from the term "fur tree" and perhaps you recognize "yolka" as the name commonly used to describe New Year trees for the holiday season. The phrase Ёлки Палки dates to the 1800s when fir branches were nailed to the entrances of buildings that served as neighborhood bars. The branches dried over time and became dry sticks and that is the story of the name Ёлки Палки.

I'm told that in the late 1800s it was adopted as a curse, an expletive when something went wrong and instead of saying "fiddlesticks" when mad, Russians would yell out "Yolki Palki" to express displeasure.

Anyways, the food is decent and buffet style is fast.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2014, 04:20:25 AM »
I think I probably would consider it fast food, but in a different category to somewhere like Stardogs.

There was a wide range of blini, soups, salads, meat dishes and the buffet, presented on an old wooden cart, was full of all kinds of dishes including various popular salads.

The interior is decked out in the style of a traditional wooden dacha, which to me looked a little bit gimmicky, similar to this:


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I think Mu-Mu does the "old style" much better though.

They do have fast food style outlets in shopping centres, as well as self-contained restaurants all over Moscow. The food is quite fast but I would say it was ok quality rather than good quality. But my tastebuds may have been a bit off as I was getting over food poisoning when I visited so perhaps not in the best condition to judge a restaurant's food.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2014, 11:22:04 AM »
I'm with you on both the quality being okay but not stellar and share the love of My-My (Moo-Moo). My-My is Russian/French owned and while it is cafeteria styled in that you pay by the items chosen, it is one of our favourite places to eat for both taste and sentimental reasons. My-My scores well with tourists because as MrMann and I have found, the food is good and tourists seem to like having good food and the opportunity to try Russian dishes that are of good quality.



My-My is a much more "natural" cafe in that they try to use organic ingredients when possible and they do serve tea, coffee and juices but no sodas. If you "Google" them, the Mendeleyev Journal restaurant section comes up on most first page searches which in itself tells you the high quality of the restaurant itself.  :thumbsup:

February 28 will mark the 14 year anniversary of My-My in Moscow and the parent company, Maison-Dellos, is advertising 100,000 prizes including the grand prize of a new Chevrolet Cobalt will be given away in restaurant contests. This is the same company that owns Cafe Pushkin if that tells you anything about the quality.


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My-My (Moo-Moo) has grown rapidly to 35 locations around Moscow and are strategically located at Metro stations, allowing locals to easily meet friends for a meal but also making it very convenient for tourists. There is also one at Domodedovo airport and two very close to Sheremetyevo airport.


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The new location at the Kremlin inside the shopping centre Okhotny Ryad on Manezhnaya Square, just across from the Aleksandr Gardens, is open as of March 2014.


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With the the distinctive white cow with black spots at every entrance, My-My (Moo-Moo) is a favourite among active tourist sites like tripadvisor.com and in 2012 was visited by noted French/Australian traveling food blogger, A la mode frangourou (http://alamodefrangourou.blogspot.com/2012/09/lunch-at-my-mypronounced-moo-moo-moscow.html).


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My-My (Moo-Moo) has added breakfast service at most locations and is a popular place to hold birthday parties for children given that their locations are generally spacious and most have separate dining areas for groups.

One man's vote: while the service is fast, the preparation and quality isn't and in this sense My-My (Moo-Moo) doesn't really qualify as fast food because it is just too good and the comfortable interiors lend to staying awhile. It is however one of the best quality meals that you could enjoy in a short space of time.


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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2014, 05:57:38 PM »
(Attachment Link) Advertised as a "Danish hot dog."

(Attachment Link) "Big French" for big appetites.
I'm not surprised that's how it's marketed, it's the Danish variation which is delicious... raw onion, sweet relish and gherkins, what's not to love (disclaimer, not eaten at Старdog!s, had these ones in Denmark).

Looks like the hot dogs you get in the Czech Republic, it appears that Старdog!s just takes local hot dog variants and dishes them out fast food style which is quite good in many ways but naming a Czech hot dog, "Big French" is a shame in my opinion.

Still next trip, I'm going to go an check out a kiosk and see how they compare and what other options are out there :king:

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2014, 10:47:46 PM »
 Way back in 2006 I was in Odessa for the last time.  :(  My GF took me to a place a nobody has spoken of. It's a bit of a joke amongst the locals, as its known for cheap eats. Its like a feed line where you grab a tray and move down the line getting what you want. Everything is weighed, and at the end you pay for the food.
 Now I was gazing at the different dishes, and commented to the GF that I can't eat most of this stuff, because it has egg on or in it. I would pause, but within a few seconds I was getting the hook to continue moving down the line- I was holding up others who were behind me, and everyone seemed to be in a rush to sit and eat.  Well at the end of the line I recall I had a very sparse tray of food, and the constant tugging from the ex to keep moving, made the experience all the more ridiculous! 
 The best part was when I wanted to wash my hands, as there was no washroom that we could find!  :chuckle:  As I looked around the 'dining room', it was quite evident that this place was nothing less than a cheap refueling stop. People moved down the line fast, they ate fast and they left just as fast as they could.  That restaurant has always stuck in my head, and I have mentioned it by name here a few times over the years.
 However tonight I was taking a Google holiday down memory lane on the streets of Odessa, and had to find if the place was still in business, and it is!   I've always remembered it as being pronounced ,'Yaro Paruo'
 Anyway, here's a photo of my beloved eatery. If you're in Odessa give it a try.  ;D

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2014, 02:48:23 AM »
Quote from: mendeleyev
My-My (Moo-Moo) has grown rapidly to 35 locations around Moscow

I knew there were a few but didn't realise there were that many.

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The new location at the Kremlin inside the shopping centre Okhotny Ryad on Manezhnaya Square, just across from the Aleksandr Gardens, is open as of March 2014.

It's a bit of a hidden gem that shopping centre. There's a pretty decent supermarket in there. Prepare to get wet in the summer though!

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2014, 09:37:24 AM »
I never saw a My-My while in Moscow or I certainly would have given it a try after all I have read about it here. 
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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2014, 10:04:22 AM »
Way back in 2006 I was in Odessa for the last time.  :(  My GF took me to a place a nobody has spoken of. It's a bit of a joke amongst the locals, as its known for cheap eats. Its like a feed line where you grab a tray and move down the line getting what you want. Everything is weighed, and at the end you pay for the food.
 Now I was gazing at the different dishes, and commented to the GF that I can't eat most of this stuff, because it has egg on or in it. I would pause, but within a few seconds I was getting the hook to continue moving down the line- I was holding up others who were behind me, and everyone seemed to be in a rush to sit and eat.  Well at the end of the line I recall I had a very sparse tray of food, and the constant tugging from the ex to keep moving, made the experience all the more ridiculous! 
 The best part was when I wanted to wash my hands, as there was no washroom that we could find!  :chuckle:  As I looked around the 'dining room', it was quite evident that this place was nothing less than a cheap refueling stop. People moved down the line fast, they ate fast and they left just as fast as they could.  That restaurant has always stuck in my head, and I have mentioned it by name here a few times over the years.
 However tonight I was taking a Google holiday down memory lane on the streets of Odessa, and had to find if the place was still in business, and it is!   I've always remembered it as being pronounced ,'Yaro Paruo'
 Anyway, here's a photo of my beloved eatery. If you're in Odessa give it a try.  ;D


You mean 'жару Пару'. The place is still there. We ate there last August. I don't recall the experience being as you described. It was pretty empty but it does have a quick turnaround. The food was ok. There was quite a selection to choose from so you need to know what the dishes are.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2014, 12:46:12 PM »
That Russian chick in the youtube video made my day.

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Re: Fast food, FSU style
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2014, 01:15:00 PM »
Do you guys every try some of the fast food from street side kiosks?
 I love the shaurmas at our local bazzar in Cherkassy.
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