Anastasia.com scam or real?

[sharonhaber00]

I never hide my head under the wings.

Profile is empty.

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.

In what country?

When I've met a few girls during my several trips to Ukraine, I have demonstrated that they support age differences of up to 15 years.

How old is "too young?"

18 + 15 = 33.


 

[TomT]

18 + 15 = 33.

27 + 15 = 42 is also possible.
(He didn't write that every girl would accept a 15-year age gap.)

[sharonhaber00]

18 + 15 = 33.

27 + 15 = 42 is also possible.
(He didn't write that every girl would accept a 15-year age gap.)

I will be surprised due to:

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.

[Brasscasing]

Dear Brasscasing,

Making an accusation is very serious.
Everything I write here can be read by the defendants.
So I believe that only speak from what I can prove.
With evidence or witnesses.
I never hide my head under the wings.

Your questions ...
Before, when someone wrote 16 letters to Anastasia, the agency facilitated the personal data of the girl.
From there,
a) Why not arrange a meeting directly with the girl?
b) Why not buy flowers or a gift ODESSA stores?
c) Why not hire an apartment in Kiev or L'VIV?
d) Why not find an interpreter in place of the appointment?

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.
 
Furthermore, I recommend that you set in the profiles of the girls. 99.99% of the candidates seeking exchanges with men 50 to 75 years.
When I've met a few girls during my several trips to Ukraine, I have demonstrated that they support age differences of up to 15 years.
They are mature early.

Sincerely.

This whole story of yours is really getting a bit beyond the pale now...

None of this answers anything I've asked you.  Further, your English appears to improve or decline as needed.

As I mentioned up thread there is a difference beween an unsuccessful/unsatsfied customer and a scam. You fall into the former and for whatever reason are now trying to suggest that you've been scammed.

You've mentioned helping others. You're going to need to be a lot more forthcoming and truthful with your narratives if helping is your intention.

Brass

 

[TomT]

This so similar to corresponding with an autoresponder program that it's scary.

[John Petaca]

Before I write, I read the title of this forum.
ANASTASIA IS SCAM OR REAL?

I'll tell you a real story.
At that time, I had written about ten letters to Helen.
She had created its listing in February 2009.
Their pictures I had seen dozens of times.
One day I was watching other profiles on Anastasia.
I was shocked to see the same photos in another profile Helen
which had been set six months later.
In this case, opening a letter cost three times more than the profile of Helen.
The cover photograph was different,
For several days I watched the evolution of this profile ..
This was to be open the same days and at a similar time that the profile of Helen. He was doing the same.

I informed the agency of my discovery.
That other card was removed immediately.
They did not give me any explanation.


Greetings to all.

I have been visited by an intruder on my computer!

[Hammer2722]

I just don't get why some guys are still using this scam agency after being taken. There are more than enough threads here on this forum and many others stating to stay away from pay-per-letter/credit type sites. I used Anastasia for almost 2 years and it was a complete waste of money. I moved over to a monthly pay site and now I'm working on my fiance's K1.  Your odds of finding a real lady interested in just you on this site are miniscule. Just move on.....

[AvHdB]

I just don't get why some guys are still using this scam agency after being taken. There are more than enough threads here on this forum and many others stating to stay away from pay-per-letter/credit type sites. I used Anastasia for almost 2 years and it was a complete waste of money. I moved over to a monthly pay site and now I'm working on my fiance's K1.  Your odds of finding a real lady interested in just you on this site are miniscule. Just move on.....

For the same reason that some people can not stay away from a casino.

[Hammer2722]

I just don't get why some guys are still using this scam agency after being taken. There are more than enough threads here on this forum and many others stating to stay away from pay-per-letter/credit type sites. I used Anastasia for almost 2 years and it was a complete waste of money. I moved over to a monthly pay site and now I'm working on my fiance's K1.  Your odds of finding a real lady interested in just you on this site are miniscule. Just move on.....

For the same reason that some people can not stay away from a casino.

I don't think itS more about addiction than it is about accepting the fact that they were taken for a ride. Maybe they just can't accept it and think they can make this work. Also, the fantasy of a 18-19 yr old showing "interest" in them may also play a part. I know I was caught in that web for a time. LOL

[sharonhaber00]

As a former user of pay-per-letter site I can say the reason for that is the absent of dates within the country, and the fact that in online personals no one writes you and or interested in you (unless you are quite attractive) and sadly when you past certain age your dating pool shrinks and get dry.   

[John Petaca]

ANASTASIA is a money machine.

In April 2012, its sales exceeded $ 5,751,000.
If we include some items not controllable (Apartments, gifts,
Phone calls, chat, translators, taxi, shopping profiles, etc.. etc.).
Its turnover could rise from eight million dollars a month.
It is a company with annual growth rates of 25%.
If I were rich, would mount a similar business ANASTASIA.

I have a question to make ANASTASIA:
Many of its 20,000 girls have managed to obtain a total success?
In this activity, the overall success is that she go to the country of her suitor and, at least, lives with her ​​suitor.
My estimate is 5 to 6 cases per 10,000 girls.
The average age of these girls successfully, is 37 years.
These results correspond to the reason for the company?
FALSE!
In other agencies, known for their professionalism, they get very different results. 50 to 70 weddings in 10,000 girls.

I reserve my opinion.

Greetings to all.

[PBRstreetg]

Greetings back,
John you come off like an unorganized grabasstic person. I'd like to see some interaction on this forum from you and not just postings that seem like cut and paste. I'm here to learn, but at the same time if I could help members learn something they did not know or consider all the better. From what you've volunteered: an intangible cluster

[welder]

Source of info?

[Brasscasing]

Source of info?

There is none. This guy is a crusader. Not a prolific one but stuck in the same program loop just the same. I think he may have tried to use Anastasia and for whatever reason was unsuccessful. Based on what he's posting here (even with language which I think is affected) I'm starting to understand why.

Normally these guys come on great guns, we identify them and as long as they're not causing a ruckess are allowed to stay. Once they are identified though members don't pay much attention to them and the readership pretty much gets the idea. I myself have stopped trying to converse with the guy, it's useless. 

Regardless of their reputation even Anastasia is bound to run across undesirable clients.

Brass

[John Petaca]

Mr. Brasscing,

I apologize if I did not answered all your questions.
I think you understand I have the right to do so.
You take a lot right about one thing: "I have not succeeded in Anastasia, and therefore I am resentful.
I have the feeling of being cheated. Maybe I'm wrong ...
That's why I expose my experiences and conclusions.
I need answers and silences those who want to participate in this forum. Thus, my opinions may change.
However, Anastasia has the right to defend my claims. Just enough to show them what I set forth here is false.
They probably will not. They are wrong.
In Spain it is said that a lie repeated often can become a truth.
Arguments based on truth, are devastating to the liar.

Do not forget, my goal is to help others in my humble opinion.
And nothing more. The generating discord is not my favorite game.

Greetings to all.

[TomT]

John,

You have the right to refuse to answer questions but, by doing so, you aren't helping anyone. You are just wasting your time and our time.

[John Petaca]

Mr. TomT,

I see you are very interested in the experiences that I can count
as a former client of ANASTASIA.
To satisfy your curiosity, I will tell another adventure lived by me.

A few days ago I was in Anastasia.
One morning I discovered that the previous day had been discharged from a girl of 23 years. I soon realized that Marina was a girl interesting.
She wrote several letters. The cost to open began as of $ 5.25.
The thing was serious because after several weeks was reduced to $ 1.25 per letter.
She began corresponding with 19 men and finally just
did it myself and two other men.
Her letters were getting warmer and I was captivated.
She told me many details, and even she spoke several times of their parents.
She was a methodical and organized in her life. Student with good academic results. About to finish his studies and eager to marry as soon as possible.

Access to the profile of her, she did 3 days a week: Tuesday and Thursday from 18h30 to 19h or so, and Sunday from 20h00 to 21h30.
Marina was a charm. She was excited and happy with me.

Days later I contacted her to our meeting in Ukraine, would be delayed 3 months for work.
Her response left me petrified. The letter it was cold. She said that foreign men are not serious. She was convinced she would not find their soulmate in ANASTASIA. She was very angry.
From that day Marina did not open their profile.
I wrote several letters, proposing to rectify my decision.
It was late. She did not return to read my letters ...
Three months later I was in an apartment in Nikolayev.
What a surprise! On the PC I saw that Marina had agreed that day and
had read all my previous letters. And he answered them all.
The reason for not answering in time had been a terrible disease that had been his grandmother.
I informed her of my presence in Nikolayev, and my desire to see her.
I told her that our meeting could occur immediately. And next week I would be in Kiev.
She did not answer until the following week when I was in Kiev.
She wrote several letters. Each one sentence and a question.
Now, open the cards cost $ 6.
Then I realized that there was a metamorphosis in Marina.
She was not the same person I had known before.
In the analysis of their profile, I discovered several things:
A. - Now the profile would have Navy at any time of day or night. Several times in the same day.
2. - The style of writing was quite different.
3. - All letters, very short, ended with a question.
4. - The cost to open his letter had been multiplied.
5. - The opening of their profile in time and day coincided with the opening of other profiles that I had booked.
A person would have all of them in a synchronized manner?

At that time, I remembered Eugeni. I met him early one morning
in a cyber cafe Nikolayev.
He had spent the night there answering the letters of the men who wrote the beautiful girls of ANASTASIA.
It was his job. He knew with a prodigious memory the numbers of profiles controlled. He showed me some telling details that left me perplexed.
This is control!
In our farewell, Eugeni gave a revealing phrase:
"You has to find his girl on the street. There are real girls out there
will find it for sure. "
All the valuable information provided by Eugeni O.6 Euros cost me.
The PC I paid rent to the internet cyber cafe ....
In my next trip to Nikolayev, I am going to investigate trade relations between the internet cyber cafe and ANASTASIA.
I'll tell you here.
If ruadventures not stop me from my stay here, it will be possible.

Greetings to all.

[AvHdB]

John,

I also used Anastasia. (In fact 1st International) Some of the women based on there replies were being fronted. Others I can not say. But I met one woman from Sumy twice who was on 1st International. She was lovely, but a relationship did not develop. When I was in Sumy I met a local agency owner. He stated that his break even for a message after costs and revenue sharing was $5,25. He had managed to forge relationships via his agency through Anastasia.

Another woman in Kiev I met and for about half a year we were together. In fact we were in direct contact after 5 messages as we figured out the other persons details. Unfortunately in the end it did not work out. Both women controlled there own profile through a local agency and the price was under $2,= per message.

Your comment about her price dropping for a message is not true once you open a letter from her that is the price you pay for all subsequent letters, it does not rise and fall like the tides. The more people writing to the woman the more expensive it becomes for subsequent people to communicate with this person, and odd system but it is there system.

If you convince a woman you are coming to meet her and than say you are delayed by three months I suspect she might not be to happy about your promises. Curious did you have a Spanish Russian translator?

[jaynibs]

I used Ukrainedate.com just out of curiosity.  I found the most wonderful woman ever.  Maybe it was luck, I'm not sure.  I did however, run in to a few scammers that asked for money to translate English.  It was obviously a red flag!!  Skype is the most important thing to use.  I had a few scammers disappear after I asked to see them on Skype.  I have been to Ukraine 3 times now.  I'm engaged and going to be married this summer.  Ukrainedate.com worked for me!  Give it a try.  Good luck!!

[sharonhaber00]

Ukrainedate.com worked for me!  Give it a try.  Good luck!!

If I had your face I would

[Larry]

Skype is the most important thing to use.

Jay is absolutely right.  Skype is your best friend in this search.  And not only to avoid scammers.  It allows you to more easily tell which girls are serious.  If they consistently give you some excuse as to why they cannot talk with you on skype, it's almost always a sign that you should move on to someone else. 

For every scammer there are probably twenty nonserious girls.

[sharonhaber00]

If they consistently give you some excuse as to why they cannot talk with you on skype, it's almost always a sign that you should move on to someone else.

Also see here:
http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=16537.msg266302#msg266302

[TomT]

John,

I presume that you never spoke to Marina by telephone or on Skype, correct?

[John Petaca]

Hello AvHdB,

You is right. When a man begins to write to a girl, the cost of opening a letter shall be set at that time.
If she writes more men, the factor increases.
1 to 16 of each month, Anastasia changing the value of that factor.
The new value only affects new claimants.
That value, in addition to quantify your expenses, used to get an idea of ​​the number of men with whom she is writing.
For me, a girl who writes for a long time with many men, I get the impression of a person not serious.
With some age and some experience, the girl would make a shortlist with the first letter you receive. And it will discard all those men who have no serious objectives.
When Marina wrote in his profile, he was showing that he was ruling out other men because their value was declining.
For me it was a sign that she was a person with serious goals.
When Marina's profile was handled by others, that value is shot, while his letters were empty of content.
The cost of opening his letters to me, has always been the same value as when I wrote the first letter.
Therefore you is right.
Greetings.

[John Petaca]

Hello Mr. TomT,

Yes, I spoke by phone with Marina. She was really Marina?
I can not insure.
This was possible in the second attempt. With the first number provided by Anastasia I only got to speak with a Ukrainian man very serious voice.
Marina had a very poor English, but enough to understand on the essentials.
I spoke only twice, and clearly that person had nothing in common with the person with whom I had been writing for so long.
Marina's profile is still present in Anastasia. It is very clear that it is consulted by the same person who is handling several other profiles.
A friend of mine lives in Nykolaev. He has been found that in the direction that the agency gave me, there is a store where someone has never lived.
And the owner of that phone number is a lady who works as an official of the state and whose age exceeds 50 years.
Tom, you can give me your opinion on the situation that I have lived with Marina?
 
regards