Please google the girl & ID before you register a site

[dude444]

Please google the girl name & ID before you join a site

Wouldn't it be better if you knew before hand what you are getting into?
There are several ways to verfiy the sincerity of real profile.
Google "scammers" or "scam" & you will find many good professional websites.
Secondly register many agencies & search for the same girl on different websites
& if you find the same girl on many websites than you already know or have idea about what you
are getting into.

It is just advice for those to find out
why a girl has been on a dating site for so long period of time!
It takes only one correspondence to begin a fruitful relationship.
Why waste precious time on her?
Why waste money on correspondence on her?
Why put in the effort write letters everyday for something that is not there?
Why call her in the first place?
Why have a videochat?
Why go all the way to meet her?

Be smart & do your research, some of us don't have time on our side.

[ECR844]

Who might you be, what kind of experience do you have?
What type of assistance are you exactly offering, and how much will that cost?

[chrsv]

Please google the girl name & ID before you join a site

Wouldn't it be better if you knew before hand what you are getting into?
There are several ways to verfiy the sincerity of real profile.
Google "scammers" or "scam" & you will find many good professional websites.
Secondly register many agencies & search for the same girl on different websites
& if you find the same girl on many websites than you already know or have idea about what you
are getting into.

It is just advice for those to find out
why a girl has been on a dating site for so long period of time!
It takes only one correspondence to begin a fruitful relationship.
Why waste precious time on her?
Why waste money on correspondence on her?
Why put in the effort write letters everyday for something that is not there?
Why call her in the first place?
Why have a videochat?
Why go all the way to meet her?

Be smart & do your research, some of us don't have time on our side.

Hello dude,

Your post reads like you may have recently had a bad experience. If that is the case, then as someone just recently starting into this process, I'd be interested in hearing about your experience and I'm sure others would as well.

[Eduard]

Hello dude444 and welcome to the forum!
Where are you joining us from? What is your background and experience? Thanks for your advice!

[dude444]

Here is the thing, if you google the girl name & ID, if she has been reported than you will get a hit.
Here are some good message forums for you to take a look for free & get headstart:

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here are some free & paid websites with huge DATABASES & some are underconstruction so they are free for now.

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Let me know what you think?

[TomT]

dude,

A girl may register herself on many sites for maximum exposure. Alternatively, it isn't uncommon for dating sites to sell profiles to each other, without the client's knowledge. Many woman languish on sites for years because the men who write to them are human refuse. One can't fault a girl for not wanting to have a "fruitful relationship" with a pervert, a retardate, a sex tourist, a psycho or an illiterate forum rat, can one?

[Eduard]

dude,

A girl may register herself on many sites for maximum exposure. Alternatively, it isn't uncommon for dating sites to sell profiles to each other, without the client's knowledge. Many woman languish on sites for years because the men who write to them are human refuse. One can't fault a girl for not wanting to have a "fruitful relationship" with a pervert, a retardate, a sex tourist, a psycho or an illiterate forum rat, can one?

well, one can, but this one won't 

[Manny]

Let me know what you think?

I think posting a big list of links to external sites, some of which are commercial, is stretching our TOS to its limit in your 2nd post. This is a conversation forum, not a links directory. I edited them accordingly.

Welcome to the site.

[workedforme]

dude,

A girl may register herself on many sites for maximum exposure. Alternatively, it isn't uncommon for dating sites to sell profiles to each other, without the client's knowledge. Many woman languish on sites for years because the men who write to them are human refuse. One can't fault a girl for not wanting to have a "fruitful relationship" with a pervert, a retardate, a sex tourist, a psycho or an illiterate forum rat, can one?

There is also another senario! My wife's local agency was kind of like a marriage broker. The girls would go in and the agency would list them on several different websights(agencys) with the girls knowledge. Another thing is once a lady becomes inactive it is very difficult to get their profile removed. I think over my wife's several years of being at several small agency's she ended up on I believe 8 different websights! When we met I think she was only active on 2, maybe 3. When we went to have here removed from the internet,Global Ladies was the easiest for her to remove her profile from,followed by the other big US sights. Others were very stubborn and required a lot of back and forth....even on the telephone between my wife and the agency. One would not remove her profile from their sight. My wife spoke with the owner 2 times,then I called and blew some smoke their way. Well...they went out of business(I wonder why?).

[dude444]

I don't know why some guys are against me & some are with me?
but I am in the process of starting my own online scam business
various agencies & dating websites!
The ratio of success on the net after 2 years is out 170 girls, 70% were scams & 20 % were real & 10 unknown. So facts speak for themselves. Either you are protecting these scams or you are trying to help people just like me.

[I/O]

I am in the process of starting my own online scam business

Why am I thinking this is 100% accurate?

well, one can, but this one won't

[Vinnvinny]

I don't know why some guys are against me & some are with me?
but I am in the process of starting my own online scam business
various agencies & dating websites!
The ratio of success on the net after 2 years is out 170 girls, 70% were scams & 20 % were real & 10 unknown. So facts speak for themselves. Either you are protecting these scams or you are trying to help people just like me.

Problem is 'dude' that scammers/scamming is subjective. Let me give you an example:

No so long ago I broke one of my golden rules and met an extremely ‘hot’ lady on a first date at a restaurant (I usually will only meet for ‘coffee’). What’s worse, it was a restaurant of her choice and it was Sushi (which I don’t eat).

2 hours later and $300 lighter we left with me having had just an $8 salad. People like you will say I was scammed or she was a pro dater and someone like her could easily end up one of these sites you talk of. Truth is that she divorced from a multi scrillionaire, drove a Porsche Cayenne and I was dating out my league.

It’s worth remembering that a guy can only be ‘scammed’ if he allows it to happen. If some men were more honest and accepting about their responsibilities in these adventures then scamming sites wouldn’t exist in the first place.

[shakespear]

I don't know why some guys are against me & some are with me?
but I am in the process of starting my own online scam business
various agencies & dating websites!
The ratio of success on the net after 2 years is out 170 girls, 70% were scams & 20 % were real & 10 unknown. So facts speak for themselves. Either you are protecting these scams or you are trying to help people just like me.

Oh great. Just what the internet needs, another vengeful scam hunter.

I can tell you that during my own search process I NEVER looked at a single scam site, not one. In my own personal opinion, they are almost completely worthless.

Facts are 90% of all scams can be completely avoided by just following the simple rule of "don't send money to someone you haven't met face-to-face. Hardly need even look at a scam site with that rule don't 'cha think?

In addition, virtually all scams are completely obvious after exchanging one or two letters.  Scammers are generally pretty clumsy and repeat a known pattern of behavior.  There are some easy "red flags" the scammer will use that will identify them as scams.   You just don't need to depend on a site to expose individual ladies

Furthermore as we've more than adequately witnessed with Marcel,  "scam sites" often are used to punish a completely innocent girl who ended a relationship with a western man. Instead of recognizing his own shortcomings or admitting that the lady just wasn't into having a relationship with him, the immature and petulant man labels her a "scammer" and in most cases she is not able to present her side of the story on the scam site.   

It is also a fact that the professional scammers often utilize pictures of beautiful women they find at legitimate agency sites to perpetrate their plot to deceive. Most times, the lady in question is not aware of the activities of the scammer. Accordingly the lady's image ends up on a scam site while the lady herself is innocent of any wrongdoing. 

About the only good thing that can be said for scam sites is that a goggle search of the name can be helpful in confirming someone you have already determined to be a scammer, has been reported by others as a scammer.  In most cases, based on their modus operandi, it's hardly a surprise.   

So, it is clear that for the most part, scam sites are nothing more than overglorified "kangaroo courts" where ladies are charged, tried and condemned of inappropriate behavior without any chance to defend themselves in the process.  As such, as long as I'm the moderator in charge of this board, the promotion and encouragement of the activities of scam sites will be minimized.

[1msmoby]

I don't know why some guys are against me & some are with me? 

'coz from your first posts you seemed to me to someone joining to promote a service... I reported your first posts as a potential commercial poster..

but I am in the process of starting my own online scam business
various agencies & dating websites!

My instincts were right..

The ratio of success on the net after 2 years is out 170 girls, 70% were scams & 20 % were real & 10 unknown. So facts speak for themselves. Either you are protecting these scams or you are trying to help people just like me.

OMG. so, your 'tactic' is to promote a 'danger' that must guys with a little common sense and   being members of such forums can learn VERY quickly..

In six years of being members of various sites, the only 'scammers' I encountered were ladies (?) who had clearly not read my profile or had acquired an email address..

I used my own domains, and used a different email addy for every site..


I'm with 'Shakey' 100%.... 

Suggest you might want to look at a another way to 'earn a crust'... 

If I sound overly abrupt.. it is for your own good..

[shakespear]

No so long ago I broke one of my golden rules and met an extremely ‘hot’ lady on a first date at a restaurant (I usually will only meet for ‘coffee’). What’s worse, it was a restaurant of her choice and it was Sushi (which I don’t eat).

2 hours later and $300 lighter we left with me having had just an $8 salad. People like you will say I was scammed or she was a pro dater and someone like her could easily end up one of these sites you talk of. Truth is that she divorced from a multi scrillionaire, drove a Porsche Cayenne and I was dating out my league.  

Excellent story.  I'm guessing 90% of all western men who found themselves in your situation would have considered themselves scammed by a professional dater and many would have reported it to a scam site thinking they were doing the right thing.  

It's worth remembering that a guy can only be ‘scammed’ if he allows it to happen. If some men were more honest and accepting about their responsibilities in these adventures then scamming sites wouldn't exist in the first place.  

Absolute truth there Vinny.  Excellent post!