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Coding Wizard:
We all know about Green Card Girls (GCG's), being those who want to get married just to get their green card, then they'll abscond.

There's another category, not necessarily bad, which I call the Good Time Girls (GTG's). They are girls who are real, hot, and are out for a good time with a foreign boyfriend. They may not want to get their green card, and they may be sincere about a relationship later on, but, for now, all they want is to travel, make some money, and, yes, have a good time.

That's not a bad thing, so long as they're sincere about it, and, quite honestly, I think that's also a good way to look around and see what kind of person you like. Several such GTG's have approached me on Aweb, and I know the personal phone number and address of one such lady, who speaks English perfectly. She's been wanting me to take her around, but the problem is that I'm quite busy, and it's quite a flight to Moscow. She may or may not turn into the real thing, but, for now, she wants to get around with someone. I'm thinking about this, because it's a good way to date someone and see where it goes. That's in fact what does happen locally.

That's my experience so far. Anyone else care to add to this?

mendeleyev:
Wizard, you are right.  Perhaps to be included in the same category are the ladies who seek nothing more serious than a paid vacation.  Before the CCCP fell, paid holidays often included free travel and lodging to a nice seaside location.

There are some women who miss this benefit and have found that a wealthy but naive western man is the perfect way to fund a vacation.  Or perhaps she is a younger gal who sees wealth around her and yearns for the same kind of holidays that others enjoy.  In either case to her mind it's a win-win situation:  She gives out some pleasurable intimacy and he puts out the money.

I maintain that any lady who suggests the first meeting to include a week on the black sea, etc, etc, is a strong candidate for a Good Time Girl category.   In her culture, old fashioned courting (not "dating") is the custom.  Spending lots of time in the presence of her family, relatives and friends is how she (with family input) selects a marriage mate...not out on some beachside getaway with a foreigner.

(We should write something sometime about the courting process and more specifically just how involved her family--from parents to uncles/aunts and cousins--have far more say in her choice of a mate than we could ever imagine in western culture.  Also how a guy who understands this, and approaches it from her cultural perspective has a large advantage over any potential "competitors" for her.)

A week on the beach is a much further departure from her cultural norm that most western guys realize.  Chances are she is looking for something.   It's just probably not marriage.

Coding Wizard:
I had a date recently with a RW, from Moscow. She was a blonde, but doing her MBA in Switzerland - which may be why her hair was becoming darker.  ;D.

Anyway, we discussed the possibility of a relationship, and we agreed that, for a RW to be compatible with an executive AM, they had to be of the same level, in education and social standing. This is not just an issue of compatibility, it's one of weeding out the good time girls. That said, she said that, in Russia, the man was expected to pay for everything, because that was their way. I paid for the lunch, by the way, but it's no big deal.

The issue is to find someone you can date, until you both see if you're compatible. She and I seem to have different interests, but we're keeping the option open.

jlogajan:

--- Quote from: Coding Wizard on August 02, 2007, 04:41:15 PM ---she said that, in Russia, the man was expected to pay for everything, because that was their way.

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In my two trips to Russia my RW wouldn't let me pay for anything, including 5 roubles for a tram ride.  She would make a scene if I tried to pay.

mendeleyev:
I'm with jlogajan on this experience.  During our courtship we didn't do much "dating" but on those occasions when we did get out and away from the family I paid for most things.

When courting in her home or with extended family members I could bring a bottle of wine if visiting aunt or cousin, or a small flower for her mother, but she refused my contribution to any other expense for meals, etc, in her home.

One cousin lives way out in the Moscow burbs and easily a 2 hour trip via bus, Metro, bus again to her home and then back.  Sometimes when coming back at the end of a long day I'd be starving and want to grab something from a little kiosk.  No way, that iron Russian will kept her going until we could arrive at her home and fix something in the family kitchen.

Now we have a tradition:  Once weekly, usually on a Sunday returning from church, we'll choose between a baked potato kiosk or a Moo-Moo (French chain with multiple Moscow locations) restaurant.  All other days she insists we eat all meals at home.  If our children are present then she will relax a bit more with this rule.

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