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Offline Palle1985

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Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« on: July 21, 2009, 07:33:26 AM »
Hello everyone!

I'm new here so bare with me one this one and my native langugae isn't english so have a little patience:)

I really need some help and hope someone here could give me some good advice.

Here is my story.

For some months ago, march 2009, I found a link on facebook to a webpage called "Singel Baltic Lady". I was very courius about it and looked at it. It was many nice looking girls on it and I have always found eastern european grils very attractive so I joined in. Maybe the first days I got about 100 letters from diffrent women's and I thought I was in heaven:) I discovered fast that is was rather expensiv to communicate on that page but with no other experience in this matter I thought maybe it is like that. The time went by and I found some promising girls I really liked. We talked and talked and still everything feelt good. Antoher girl (not one of the once I had been communicating for a while with) start sending me letter and I answere her, she was willing to come to Sweden (where I live) which I thought was great until she asked me for money for a visa, then I realized that something wasen't right and stopped the contact with her. And that was the first time I was in contact with a scam. I started to search the internet for information about this and founds Jim's page agencyscams. I read and read but still I didn't know what to think. I also read about his comment on singel baltic women and got very sad, was everything I thought was real only scam? Is every girl on that page scam or is it mixed with both real girls, looking for someone, and scams? Well I wasn't sure and well Jim seemed pretty sure on his thing and I also read his example of a scammer and a genuine letter from a russian women but maybe it is obvius to many it was not so clear for me, of course when she asks for money me too understand that it is something wrong, but to spot a scammer before she asks for money.

I decided to continue my correspondece with the girls on SBL hoping that they where genuien. Some times passed and I found out one of the girls to be very strange. She answered my letters and myquestions but then wrote much about how she missed me and wanted to be with me and such... it got even worse after a while where she sended me letters only with affiactionate words besides our correspondence and because you pay to open every letter it got very expensive so finally I could bare it and broke my contact with her. But my correpsondece with the others contunied. One of the girls I also talked over the phone with, on msn too and another I talked to msn and she even got facebook because of me. So that they where real girls there was no doubt about. I started to plan a trip to Ukraine and Odessa to meet this girls (about 5-6 girls I've been talking to).
But about two-three weeks ago I visited Jim's page again and found out some new information about SBL or Natashaclub. There was guys that had talked to girls on SBL and then found same girls on other webpagegs and this girls didn't know anything about SBL or didn't know they had any profiles there. It wasn't only one guy writing this so it must be many scam profiles and this got me a little worried. Also I found out some new scam ways Jim wrote about. It was common in Ukraine that the women are real and she talk to you and agree to meet you and everything but she is not intrested in any relationship. She will only use the expensive site to communicate because then she and the page makes money on you.

With this new info I was about to cancel my planed trip to Ukraine to meet this women's I been communicatin with. But after a talk with my firend about a trip to Ukraine he agreed on going there with me just to explore and see Odessa. And I thought, now when I have come this far with the girls, when I have spend both money and time, and I'm still going to Ukraine maybe I could meet some of them anyway to see if there is real. But I'm not so sure about it anymore...

I have like 6-7 girls now I'm talking to. One I recently start talking to says she is comming to Sweden for vacation in august and like to meet me then. I still are very careful about this until I know she will not ask me for money or something. But non of these girls have asked me for money, two of them is willing to meet me in Odessa without interpreters (they don't speak english) one of them lives in Sumy and the other i Nikolaev.

Only one of these girls wants to use an interpreter from the agency when we meet. Some girls are very affictionate in there letters which I found a bit strange but maybe it is because I'm very affictionate in mine. But two of this girls have e-mails but it seem very problematic to talk over e-mail. Either there having problems with theire e-mail or they don't have a computer with internet at home. I don't know if this is common or not. I have asked four of the girls for more pictures of them but it never comes, one of them uploaded one new pictures in her profile but they always says "I will send you but not now" and I have been nagging about this for some time now.

Well what do you sugest me to do? Should I meet them when I come down there? Is there someone that have meet their other half on that page and is any of the girls real and her intentins real? What should I do, I really need some help from people that have more experience and know more about this than me.

One more important thing is that I have been looking for the girls in jim's page and I have also googled there name but have not found anything. Should I write thier user on SBL here for you to look at?




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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 09:38:51 AM »
welcome Palle :) i m sure guys will help :nod:
1 Life is not rehearsal... 2 sorry for my english;-)) 3 Thinking only always positive way=be healthy and happy))))) 4yes, and I am 41 yo ;-))))))))))))) 5 In life there are no rules!!! 6 but he should not be older 45 yo )))) 7...? ;-)

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 10:33:09 AM »
Thank you:) Yes I hope:)


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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 10:53:48 AM »
Welcome Palle.

I just looked them up on Jim's List as you did: http://agencyscams.com/Why/1st.html it seems they are one of a large number of websites operated by one firm. Jim seems to feel they are scam; reading his info there I would be inclined to agree with him.

You have plans to meet some women already...... before you do this, you need to establish they are real women speaking for themselves. That means you need to get them on the telephone. If they do not speak English, arrange a three-way translated call.

Do you have direct contact information for any of these women or have you done any three-way telephone calls already?
please tell me where I'm being / have been 'dishonest'? 
Yes, he said that.........

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 11:13:31 AM »
Thank you for your welcome! :)

Yes I know, it was not fun to read it, especially after have spend so much money on that site... :S

I have spoken to one of them over the phone another I have spoken to over MSN with a webcam so at least two of them is real girls. The others dosen't speak english or I don't have their telephonenumbers. Is there any good way to arrange a three way phone call? I have never done this before:)


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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 11:28:30 AM »
My wife has a page here: Translated three-way calls you can take a look at.

You will also find other providers and honest agencies on our Top Site list here: Recommended sites and service providers

To be honest, Odessa doesn't have the greatest reputation for bride seekers if you read the forum.
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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 01:52:20 PM »
Thank you!I will look at your pages.

Well the girls are not from Odessa it is only me and my friend that will travel there. The girls come from Sumy, Nikolaev, Mariypol and one from Odessa. But I have asked them to come to Odessa to meet me.

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 02:05:29 PM »
I read about a page called Luckylovers, is that page free? Is it any good? Is there a lot of scams there too or what kind of page is it?

Is there anyone that have used Singel Baltic Lady or any of its other websites with a positive result? Cause even if I call these girls and it really is them it is still the chance that they are not intrested in finding someone but only to help the webpage earn money.

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 02:45:54 PM »
We have two previous topics about Lucky Lovers:

one here

and another one here
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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 03:15:30 PM »
Thank you Manny for your great help! I'm very grateful!

It sounds very good LL and I'll try it but first I have to clear this things up about SBL and the girls there:)

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 06:39:59 PM »
Welcome aboard Palle. :)

Your post is a bit nebulous Palle but from what I'm reading it doesn't look good.

Have you talked to any of these girls by phone?

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2009, 11:36:56 AM »
Tahnk you. I don't know what nebulous menas?

Well only two of them I've talked over the phone. Maybe it would be easier to leave all of them and go forward with all but it would be sad to miss the oppertunity to meet them if everything is real.

Is there some way to know if they are scam other than calling them? Should I post their nicknames from the page, maybe any of you recognize it?

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2009, 12:01:36 PM »
There is one girl from that page I started to communicate with, I think I wrote her two or three messages and she writes like 2-3 letters per day. So I stopped to write her cause it costs too much now I like got 15 unread letters from her. That must be something wrong?

Another of the girl I am communicating with wrote Brian (that is not my name) and in the second letter she blamed the intrepreter for it. What should I make of that?

My name or alias on that page is Palle1985 and she wrote "Hello Palle1985", any real person should know that my real name dosent incluede the numbers but that girl I have talked over the phone with and on msn so I don't know why she write like that? :S

And two of the other girls I had e-mail contact with, one of them haven't written me and the other wrote me on SBL even when she got my e-mail. She said she was in Crimea and she have sad to me before that she dosen't have a computer with internet but if she is abel to write me there she would be able to write me to my e-mail right?


I guess this was to good to be true?

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2009, 12:21:24 PM »
This is from one girl that lives in Odessa:

Hello, my dearest Palle!
I am happy o receive your new letter and to know that you had a wonderful weekend. As for me, it was raining on Sunday and I didn’t go to the beach. But I was dreaming of us.Wink)))) I was watching a romantic movie.Wink)))

Sweetheart, I am not a trick. I am a real girl who has her real feelings, dreams and wishes. I can’t communicate with you very often through e-mail. I have only one day a week in the evening when I can write a letter to you for free. But if I want to write you oftener, I should go to the internet café and I don’t have money for that. Do you understand me?

Sweetie, I hope that everything will be fine with your test.Wink)) I will pray for that.Wink)))) Sweetheart, I miss you! I am waiting for our meeting a lot! I wish to be happy together with you!!!!

I hope that your family is fine. Say hello to you relatives.Wink))))
Hug you, XXX.


This is another:

DearPalle!I am In CRIMEA now.I am laying on the beach now, feel crash of waves and breathe fresh air. Its incredible!I and my friend we are going to est something nad come back to our place. Its reall nice weather for suntan. Hope that it will look good on my skinWink
Dear I went to Crimea to spend my vocation. I am so happy to write you this letter and want to let you know that I think of you and will write you back as soon as I come back. aproximetly after 25th of Jule.
I wish to hear from you back and tell me what is the best place to spend your vocation?
Have a good day and nice rest
Hugs XXX


Another: This one I have talked over the phone with and talked to on msn

Hello my dear Palle1985!!
Sorry for my long reply! I was not in town but now I'm back and I want to talk with you again! I really missed you! I was in Crimea and could not respond to your letter !(((( I had a good time there! Perhaps we will go to the Crimea together?? What do you think about this? When will you leave? What's new and interesting things happening in your life??
I kiss you..
I will wait your reply)
your girl XXX))



Another: She got my name wrong but I gett a letter one minute after that says "    Sorry for the wrong name-from interpreter "

Sweet Brian!
I will become your Russian teacher one day Smile). What do you mean to get to Odessa by myself? Smile) I also have never met with anyone this way.
I am so sorry that you are sad about photos, but why do not you believe me that I am honest and look exactly the same? Do you think I have a reason to be dishonest in this apsect?
My weekend was nice and I spent it with my granny at the hospital. I did not have a chance to talk to my boss, but I will as soon as I return to Sumy.
The weather today is so hot and it is probably about 40C. I wear my summer dress, but still it is very hot and stuffy. It is so good here at the agency, because of the conditioner and I do not want to leave Smile. It is nice to watch the girls who also come here to answer letters from their beloved men Smile. I sincerely hope that they will find happiness and love and they do not waste their time. My intuition also tells me that we have already built a solid background for our future relationship and I am not afraid of risking. Every night I have dreams about our future together and they are always so wonderful and sweet and I can not wait when we have a chance to realize all our dreams and fantasies.
I do not have any special plans for this weekend, but I plan to meet with my friends and have some pleasant time with them. I wish we could spend all our week days and weekends together!
Wait for your message.
Yours, XXX



And this one for some reason I think is genuine, she uploaded one picture of her when I asked but she haven't send me any more that I have asked for:

Hi, my dear!!! Dear, I am really sorry that I can't meet with you, but you know you are really very nice person and I always appreciate your attention!!!!
I understand you and it is up to you to end our communication or not!!!
I really desire to communicate with you as least something, because I really like you!!!!!
I am kissing you tenderly and I hope you will have a nice day!!!
Yours, XXX


I don't know if it is wrong to post this letters here? If it is I delete them.

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Re: Single Baltic Lady; totally a scam?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2009, 12:32:30 PM »
Welcome  to the forum  tiphat

As for the note with the wrong name. If the main content of the note could have been written to anyone, then she is using the same note and changing small parts for each man she is writting to. Some of these sites have women who are being paid to write to men. The more they write the more they earn. Using the same letter contents, for each man, saves them time. They make little changes to make it seem more like it is written to you alone.  

Always blamed on the interpreter when it happens.   :ROFL:

If in doubt set up a second ID or have a friend do it, and see if you get letters from the same women. I did that on a few sites to confirm how bad they were. Same notes from the same women to all Ids.  :-X


 

 

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