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Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« on: July 13, 2018, 10:24:28 AM »
Hello,
Sorry a new member with a question already.
My girlfriend has done the visit to Moscow with her son for her Visa application and all went well.
As it's quite an intimidating thing to do, we used an agent who has obviously done a good job so far.
I noticed on the application that they had only put her down for a one week stay in London as they stated that this is more acceptable.
Now my question/s
If her application is successful, should I only book her for a one week trip or can I go arrange for a 2 week trip which conflicts her Visa application.
After the 2 week trip I was intending for her to return home with empty suitcases and come back after a week for say 2 months?
I am very uncertain on how to work this, It might take a year for my bitter divorce to be settled so marrying may take a while.
Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 10:51:32 AM »
Once you have a visa for her , I presume a 6 month tourist visa she can stay pretty well as much as you want in that time. Though to be safe and on a first visa its best to stick to around about the time you indicated on your application. If you indicated for example a  7 day visit, you will have no problems if she stays on 14 days..

If its her first visa I wouldn't advice to make a  like a 10 day trip, she comes back then returns for aa  2 month stay!  2 weeks yes there would be no problem..

Just take it easy..

And remember after her first visit to the UK she may not even want to return again.. its not un normal..
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 01:46:06 PM »
And why would she not want to stay much more in the UK Steve?


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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 01:59:31 PM »
Follow the advice of Steve and when she gets her visa..... then book her the tickets for Max of 2 weeks , for her first visit. Better to keep on the safe side and follow your request of 7 days....

MAKE SURE she has a Travel Insurance.

Later she can comeback...... and stay for longer period and that way you will create a good record.

Most people married to a Russian women have done that....... with almost no problems.


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She may not like it here in the UK.... for many reasons... starting with their relationship, place he lives and so many others. It is not unheard that women change their mind.


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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2018, 11:41:47 AM »
Is this a tourist visa?

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2018, 05:42:22 AM »
And why would she not want to stay much more in the UK Steve?


Lots of Russians arrive in London expecting to see something different after a few surprises they decide NOT to return again.. and not just London..

Took the kids last Christmas.. they don't want to visit again..

Its not heaven for every one..

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2018, 08:01:11 AM »
An English visa is not an easy one to obtain. The advice is as far I understand of Steveboy in reply #1 is sound. I would follow it.
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 11:31:16 AM »
I'd be taking it easy on the marriage plans if you ain't divorced yet. This one's likely to end up being a rebound thing. Bad news to get married and then discover that's the case.

I'd not be getting anyone's head messed up with ideas of getting married at this moment.

Yeah, I know that you asked about visas but this point rather stood out as begging to be mentioned.
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2018, 12:28:27 AM »
There is always another option..

The option most of those cheating buggers claiming social security , living on benefits and usually driving taxis .. :laugh:

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/home-office-accused-failing-forced-marriage-victims-giving-220300315.html

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2018, 12:32:12 AM »
Thanks for the replies so far
I am currently in Russia and her visa has come through.
She has been given a 6 month multi entry and I have booked her and her son on the same flights back to the uk.
Questions
When we pass through customs, should we be seen as travelling together?
Could this lead to awkward questions from immigration?
If she is faced with awkward questions then I would be the one to help answer them so that would then raise why we were not traveling together.
Her visa which was done through an agency and differs in that she will be staying with me and not at the hotel as stated.
I am not trying to break any laws here or circumnavigate the system.
I am liscensed for firearms which means I am of good character
I part own 2 houses and have a rental apartment and money in the bank.
I am just terrified of screwing it up
Thanks in advance

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2018, 12:40:50 AM »
Congratulations! First keeping on breathing, Russian women do not like blue guys*.

I have found traveling on American or Dutch documents the entry into the UK via Heathrow time consuming where as driving via the Chunnel or entry into City Airport easy.

Most Russian women are confident so perhaps let her go before you. But I would more carefully listen to the English posters and there opinions and thoughts.

In any event do not lie.

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2018, 12:48:13 AM »
Thanks for the replies so far
I am currently in Russia and her visa has come through.
She has been given a 6 month multi entry and I have booked her and her son on the same flights back to the uk.
Questions
When we pass through customs, should we be seen as travelling together?
Could this lead to awkward questions from immigration?
If she is faced with awkward questions then I would be the one to help answer them so that would then raise why we were not traveling together.
Her visa which was done through an agency and differs in that she will be staying with me and not at the hotel as stated.
I am not trying to break any laws here or circumnavigate the system.
I am liscensed for firearms which means I am of good character
I part own 2 houses and have a rental apartment and money in the bank.
I am just terrified of screwing it up
Thanks in advance

Now you have a visa I would not worry about it! There will be no problems at immigration ..

If you are all travelling together you can get fast track as a family/friends so they will go with you to the immigration officer as family/friends he will do all your passports together.

No they don't ask any awkward questions, they will just check her history and maybe ask some simple stuff like where are you staying and when do you plan to return..

There will be no problems ..
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2018, 12:50:32 AM »

When we pass through customs, should we be seen as travelling together?

THAT answer depends on the reasoning you employed to GET her the Visa


Her visa which was done through an agency and differs in that she will be staying with me and not at the hotel as stated.


Then stay out of the picture   Go through first and pray.

I am not trying to break any laws here or circumnavigate the system.

Unfortunately, that's what you ARE doing ...You have lied about the purpose of her visit and where she will stay - you SHOULD have been honest and said you were sponsoring her trip - as if she is actually staying with you - that's what is happening


I am liscensed for firearms which means I am of good character
I part own 2 houses and have a rental apartment and money in the bank.
I am just terrified of screwing it up
Thanks in advance

IMHO - you have screwed up, already .... 

What happens IF the person at passport control checks where they are supposed to be staying ...? 

Just make sure she has money in her pocket and IF she is cross-examined - she should fess up - quick  - and pray you get a sympathetic ear ...

You DO know that lying on such applications is a reason to refuse entry ?




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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2018, 12:58:01 AM »
Thanks Steveboy much appreciate your time

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2018, 01:02:19 AM »
Thanks Steveboy much appreciate your time

I have done it before several times , you will have no worries or problems..

There are no awkward questions to ask you or her! They just gave her a tourist visa, simple most they will ask is where is she staying and when is she leaving..

If you want to make other visas with no problems stick to the dates you indicated when she will leave .. after that its easy :)
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2018, 09:01:03 AM »
Well we travelled back together and as per Steveboy we went through the Fast track lane and apart form a few minor questions at border control there was no issues.
She stayed for 3 weeks and went home for 2 weeks and is now back here with me for another 4 weeks.
Our relationship is good and we are looking forward to the future together.
After this 4 week trip, I am hoping to make the next trip even longer possibly till the end of the visa.
This now leads me to the next question, I am still legally married, can we apply for a fiance visa? I believe we would need to marry within 6 months and this might not be possible as the divorce could drag out a bit longer.
Can she apply for another tourist visa for a further 6 months and if so when can she apply?
Thanks in advance

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2018, 10:43:21 AM »
Well we travelled back together and as per Steveboy we went through the Fast track lane and apart form a few minor questions at border control there was no issues.
She stayed for 3 weeks and went home for 2 weeks and is now back here with me for another 4 weeks.
Our relationship is good and we are looking forward to the future together.
After this 4 week trip, I am hoping to make the next trip even longer possibly till the end of the visa.
This now leads me to the next question, I am still legally married, can we apply for a fiance visa? I believe we would need to marry within 6 months and this might not be possible as the divorce could drag out a bit longer.
Can she apply for another tourist visa for a further 6 months and if so when can she apply?
Thanks in advance

Still married?? Blimey thats crazy... how long does a divorce take I thought those sought of things are over in a matter of weeks ? Did you split up and a few months later decided you needed a Russian bride?

I don't think you will have any chance of getting a fiancee visa still being married maybe wrong.. and you are aware you need a certain income about 17,000 GBP I think or some thing like that, not much any way..

If I was you I would take it steady.. wait till your divorce is out of the way! Anything could happen.. maybe you will go back to your wife in the end!!  :laugh:

If you take it steady.. make another tourist visa and continue what your doing it will be lots less complicated than being half way through one divorce and at the time trying to import another wife..




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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2018, 04:20:17 PM »
For most state laws in the US, if you are just separated, you are still married.  Having sex with another person is considered adultery.  And getting engaged could result in bigamy charges leveled against you.  But you can become a strict Mormon or Arab sheik, then it would be alright.   :chuckle:

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Just that amount?  Approx. $25K USD.  That is McD and Wal-Mart type wages.  Imagine a stock clerk with a FSU spouse.   :evilgrin0002:

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If you take it steady.. make another tourist visa and continue what your doing it will be lots less complicated than being half way through one divorce and at the time trying to import another wife..

What can turn really ugly is when both spouses sue you for divorce.   :ROFL:
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2018, 01:34:27 AM »
@Colloc  Glad you got her in - you were lucky - but the UK immigration what out for folks who keep coming and wonder where the money comes from and WHERE they actually stay ;)

Please get divorced first... stick to General Visitor Visas - Tourist - until then ;)

 

@Steveboy - it's a but more... £18600 and more again if she already has a kid ..£22400

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/immigration/visas-family-and-friends/getting-a-visa-for-your-spouse-or-partner-to-live-in-the-uk/

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 07:00:38 PM »
In the US you need to state your current relationship status, single or divorced.  Being married is an automatic disqualification.

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2018, 01:50:23 AM »
 :rouble-smile:
In the US you need to state your current relationship status, single or divorced.  Being married is an automatic disqualification.

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« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2018, 11:46:39 AM »
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In the US you need to state your current relationship status, single or divorced.  Being married is an automatic disqualification.

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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2018, 01:30:19 AM »
Well that went off topic rather quickly.
My question is when can we apply for another tourist visa?
For her most recent flight she flew into Edinburgh and on her immigration form stated that she was staying with me.
The only question they asked was whether I was a British citizen prior to stamping her passport.

I live in Scotland where an amicable divorce takes 12 months, a contested divorce takes 2 years and then goes before a sheriff to decide.
Being married for 18 years to a woman who has BPD I should have known that there was never going to be an amicable divorce even though she wanted it.

In spite of my ex's attempts to get me declared bankrupt I earn well in excess of the minimum earnings required.
There is more chance of hell freezing over before we could have a reconciliation

I was of the understanding that she can apply for an additional 6 month Visa, can this be done in the UK or does she have to go to the embassy in Moscow again?

Once again thanks for the constructive comments.

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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2018, 04:55:11 AM »
Well that went off topic rather quickly.
My question is when can we apply for another tourist visa?
For her most recent flight she flew into Edinburgh and on her immigration form stated that she was staying with me.
The only question they asked was whether I was a British citizen prior to stamping her passport.

I live in Scotland where an amicable divorce takes 12 months, a contested divorce takes 2 years and then goes before a sheriff to decide.
Being married for 18 years to a woman who has BPD I should have known that there was never going to be an amicable divorce even though she wanted it.

In spite of my ex's attempts to get me declared bankrupt I earn well in excess of the minimum earnings required.
There is more chance of hell freezing over before we could have a reconciliation

I was of the understanding that she can apply for an additional 6 month Visa, can this be done in the UK or does she have to go to the embassy in Moscow again?

Once again thanks for the constructive comments.

She will need to go to Moscow...

But if your divorce takes a long time and for example she applies for her third visa (Tourist) you could probably get here 2 year visa.. if she behaves and doesn't abuse the next visa..

By abuse I mean she stays in the UK the full 6 months of her visa..
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Re: Best chance of a successful long term visa plan
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2018, 04:57:04 AM »
:rouble-smile:
In the US you need to state your current relationship status, single or divorced.  Being married is an automatic disqualification.

Thankfully we live in the land of the free  tiphat

Its only the land of the free if you keep your mouth shut, pay your taxes , take your 1.5 holidays a year , have 1.5 kids and do not ask to many questions..about the lot running the country :laugh:
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