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Offline mavryk1971

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« on: May 06, 2012, 06:18:57 PM »
What are the more experienced people's thoughts on using a hired translator vs a girls "friend" to translate.  I am assuming if she insists on a using her "friend" this would be a red flag.  Thanks for the advice. 
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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 06:25:45 PM »
By hiring your own interpreter you can probably ensure greater objectivity and very likely more accurate interpreting.  I wouldn't say it is necessarily a red flag, although it's possible.

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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 11:27:55 PM »
Hi there,
I would advise to use only an independent interpreter, who will provide a good service and help you in any difficulties or misunderstandings  or just gives you a piece of advice. As if she insists on using her friend, it is more likely a red flag.

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 11:52:48 PM »
Hi there,
I would advise to use only an independent interpreter, who will provide a good service and help you in any difficulties or misunderstandings  or just gives you a piece of advice. As if she insists on using her friend, it is more likely a red flag.

Absolutely I would also go for an independent interpreter.

You need to decide if you wish to have one that is her sex or yours. BUT I would say to said woman you are welcome to bring your friend along. I have used both male and female interpreters and am not sure which is better.

The problem will be who pays for whom and what. You want to avoid the appearance of entering into business negotiations.
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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 12:43:01 AM »
What are the more experienced people's thoughts on using a hired translator vs a girls "friend" to translate.  I am assuming if she insists on a using her "friend" this would be a red flag.  Thanks for the advice.

Mavryk I suspect you will not get a clear cut answer from the members as this is not a black and white issue.  On one hand you can understand that a girl may wish to use an interpreter whom she trusts, a friend in this case.  My wife would often interpret for friends with the best of intentions.  If the guy wrote her off as a result of insisting on his own interpreter out of fear of a scam he would have been mistaken.

Where this enters the grey zone is that interpreting is a business.  Girls have been known to try and make a few dollars off of guys making visits where there is insufficient time spent getting to know the lady upfront.  If a guy hasn't taken the time to skype or verify whom he is communicating it could very well have been an agency translator.

It is obvious that your own translator would be the ideal however be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 12:53:05 AM »
Why would you get involved with someone you cannot even speak with normally?  You are already dealing with a foreign culture and often, very "foreign" ideas.  Why make it even more difficult by choosing someone with whom you cannot communicate?


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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 12:54:18 AM »
Hi there,
I would advise to use only an independent interpreter, who will provide a good service and help you in any difficulties or misunderstandings  or just gives you a piece of advice. As if she insists on using her friend, it is more likely a red flag.

Mila for sure what you have posted is good advice. 

The area where I disagree is in your last statement.  Take for example your services.  Most certainly some of the girls you work with will insist that you interpret for them, assuming they are smart.  If you have worked with these girls for a period they will consider you a friend and this would be perfectly legitimate.

You no doubt have run into this countless times.  How would you suggest guys approach such situations?

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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 03:03:08 AM »
Why would you get involved with someone you cannot even speak with normally?  You are already dealing with a foreign culture and often, very "foreign" ideas.  Why make it even more difficult by choosing someone with whom you cannot communicate?

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Why do you need an interpreter? what happens when you get married, are you going to have one living with you  ??? you need to find a way of communicating with each other, (there are ways)  without a third party tagging along all the time.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 05:26:59 AM »
thks to all for the advice it is appreciated
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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 02:11:33 PM »
Why would you get involved with someone you cannot even speak with normally?  You are already dealing with a foreign culture and often, very "foreign" ideas.  Why make it even more difficult by choosing someone with whom you cannot communicate?

It is just amazing, isn't it?

I mean no harm to the people in the business, but why a normal person would try to woo a girl he cannot talk to? Ah, yes. Flat head.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2012, 04:25:51 PM »
Hi again,
Welder, it all depends, it is not easy to say, as I don't know the girl and don't know anything to be able to judge. If I were a man who is in this situation, I would let lady's friend "interpreter" to help first and for the next time an independent interpreter and then it will be clear. As usually, fake girls don't meet with freelance interpreter, so it is an answer to many questions. Good luck! :)

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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2012, 04:31:02 PM »
If a couple needs an interpreter, they haven't spend nearly enough time on the telephone or on Skype sorting out oral communication.

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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2012, 05:36:35 PM »
To use an interpreter for the first meeting ok! for serious issues, yes! As it is good to make sure both understand the translation. but if your serious then you should be learning her language and she should be learning yours!
Besides, as difficult as it is, sitting down with dictionary or computer and anything, bottle of wine can be fun and a great way to bond. Not all communicating has to be precise words :)
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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 03:57:59 AM »
Not all communicating has to be precise words :)

Without precise words people often hear what they would like to hear instead of what precise words telling them. But all of us too often find happiness in a delusion.  :biggrin:
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Re: Interpreters
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 06:57:13 AM »
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why a normal person would try to woo a girl he cannot talk to?

English speakers would like everybody would speak their language, and unwilling to learn other languages. Therefore would chase women who can speak their language. Women who can't, left behind, therefore in less competition among westerners. 

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