Russian women under 30....just how serious are they?

[NS1]

Some never learn, some never comprehend.
Many never accept whats obvious to others.

[AvHdB]

The older the man, the more self delusional he becomes.

No, there is a learning curve.

As we already know, young guys marry young women all the time and make a success of it - so we know that the maturity thing is a canard.

Then we have blokes in the mid 30's and 40's who think that they are still young (in the cntext of seeking young women as wives) and thus should play in the same league as their junior peers.

Later we have the older blokes who are replaying past successes.

In the end though all the mugs drop out and what is left behind is those who understand the truth of the maxim 'wealth and experience buys youth and beauty'. The odd thing is that what takes a girl until her 18th birthday to learn takes most men until their sixth decade to comprehend.

Some never learn, some never comprehend.
Many never accept whats obvious to others.

One mans hallucination is another man's reality.

[NS1]

I see more than a few quotes of the weeks, above

[Zachris]

Getting back to the original question, I think all these comments mean that we can expect the FSUW's under 30 to be very serious.

Serious about having fun.
Serious about a bit of romantic adventure.
Serious about material acquisitions.
Serious about fine dining.
Serious about social appearances.

and in a few possible instances

Serious about finding a foreign man marriage partner.

[NS1]

So the end result is, a man over 40 who ends up with a women under 30.

Likely she is in for the money only, as shes not taking  the majority of men
at this age serious? Considering her age.

[PBRstreetg]

Hello . Good evening.

When I was active on EM I had some promising daily contact (through either phone conversations, Skype, text or old fashioned email) with several under 25 FSU girls, individually. They all flaked out after 1 or 2 months when serious talk about going to meet in person started. They seemed to love the attention I paid them.
I'm really in agreement with the opinion of most of the vets on RUA about under 30 FSUW. Honestly +15 year age differences, or even +10 years is pushing the red zone, asking for trouble sooner or later.

Remember the saying about girls and women, it goes something like this:
Girls are easy to impress but hard to maintain.
Women being the exact opposite

Big money can mean 30 years difference is fine. I see that in Miami and not that rarely. Although I highly doubt that is a friend, lover, wife package deal. What's wrong with having an early 20's girlfriend, you just don't need to get married for that though.

My best girl in Belarus is 34. There's also a few that I'm not really comfortable calling backups all in their 20's (I'm 44). There are several reasons they are plan B,C,D and I can't deny age is one of the reasons they are "backups". We don't have the same conversations I have with my 34yo Alena. She tells me about her bad days and asks me for advice on mundane and serious matters alike. Something the younger crowd isn't in to. They'd rather talk about dreams and the big party. Maybe because I'm American but I never seriously thought about marriage until I was 30 something. I should be back in Minsk mid-June and can't wait.

Cheers
PS: I'm not sucking up but I got the Bride Guide in the mail Monday. Fascinating good read. I couldn't put it down and finished it in one 10 hour sitting. No sugar coated eBook there!

[TomT]

Getting back to the original question, I think all these comments mean that we can expect the FSUW's under 30 to be very serious.

Serious about having fun.
Serious about a bit of romantic adventure.
Serious about material acquisitions.
Serious about fine dining.
Serious about social appearances.

and in a few possible instances

Serious about finding a foreign man marriage partner.

It kinda depends on what the prospective foreign partner has to offer. The more intelligence, wealth, humor, adventurousness and youthfulness that he brings to the table, the more of them will be serious.

[andrewfi]

So the end result is, a man over 40 who ends up with a women under 30.

Likely she is in for the money only, as shes not taking  the majority of men
at this age serious? Considering her age.

It first hit me how age is perceived when I was a kid. I remember telling my mum and dad that I could not imagine living past 30, because 30 was just so old. I'd have been maybe 9 or 10 at the time and my parents in their mid 30's.

Later a girl, a couple of years older than me (I'd have been 15 or 16 by now) was talking about boyfriends. She had gorgeous breasts, I fantasised about her love apples for years. She was, at that time the most beautiful women I had met. She liked 'older men' and, giving away the time period now, had a thing for guys who drove Toyota Celicas. Oh, how I wanted to have a Celica...
But for her, an old man would have been in his late 20's.

A couple of years later, I'd started working, money in my pocket and I was out tomping and nomping with the best of them. From time to time we'd go out to Madison's nightclub for 'Grab a Granny Nite' Leastways, that's what we called it - in truth it was a ladies night where girls got in free. The grannies we sought out and wooed? I guess the oldest would have been early 30's.

Later I went to university and, of course, I dated girls from uni, after all, that was my social circle. Except that by now I was around 40 and they were from 18 to 23 or so. Now, it really sank in. No problem with company, I had great times, some of the best in my life, but my 'serious' relationships were with women from my generation. Just as the girls I was dating were having serious relationships with guys of their generation.
For many young girls, having a 'thing' with an older guy is a part of the process of growing up. We can be important to them, but no matter how I might have looked, no matter how young I thought I was 'inside' I was ALWAYS an old man and nothing changes that. I was fortunate indeed to have been part of quite a few young women's growing up.

And NO, this is something I have to repeat ad infinitum it is NOT about the money as much as it is about the kind of man who has the ability to have money/influence/standing. To think it is about money is to misunderstand how women think!
But yes, a hooker will tell you she loves you, but be thinking of the new shoes you are paying for with each sweaty thrust of your pudgy tummy finger. Some guys find it hard to recognise hookers. ;(

Young women do not usually have 'serious' relationships with old men, no matter how young the old man thinks he is!

[AvHdB]

It kinda depends on what the prospective foreign partner has to offer. The more intelligence, wealth, humor, adventurousness and youthfulness that he brings to the table, the more of them will be serious.

I think it depends on what compromises the young woman is willing to make.

Yes some guys have humour, wealth and enjoy life. But in the end of the day a woman of quality will see if she can fit her dreams into the compromises that she needs to make.

[Vinnvinny]

Young women do not usually have 'serious' relationships with old men, no matter how young the old man thinks he is!

And old men do not usually have 'serious' relationships with young women, no matter how old the young woman thinks she is, so where does that leave us? If you are telling us that's it's not typical for a younger woman and older man to have a serious relationship?  We know ....

[TomT]

I think it depends on what compromises the young woman is willing to make.

That too...

Some girls have a specific compromise validity period in mind but that's another story.

[TomT]

And NO, this is something I have to repeat ad infinitum it is NOT about the money as much as it is about the kind of man who has the ability to have money/influence/standing. To think it is about money is to misunderstand how women think!

If you make this topic too complex, you are going to confuse the village idiot. It's far better to keep it simple, let "wealth" cover a multitude of sins and minimize the number of asinine rebuttals.


p.s.

Yes, it's true that young women (especially beautiful ones) usually don't have serious relationships with old men. Unfortunately, a Quasimodo might manage to bag a teenager, after a decade of attempts, and his brief success gives the other losers hope. Even worse, a famous young girl named Olga tried her best to make a go of it with an disgusting old degenerate. Foolish men make the tacit assumption that there must be more where she came from. Unfortunately, there are damn few.   

[Muzh_1]

And NO, this is something I have to repeat ad infinitum it is NOT about the money as much as it is about the kind of man who has the ability to have money/influence/standing. To think it is about money is to misunderstand how women think!

If you make this topic too complex, you are going to confuse the village idiot. It's far better to keep it simple, let "wealth" cover a multitude of sins and minimize the number of asinine rebuttals.


p.s.

Yes, it's true that young women (especially beautiful ones) usually don't have serious relationships with old men. Unfortunately, a Quasimodo might manage to bag a teenager, after a decade of attempts, and his brief success gives the other losers hope. Even worse, a famous young girl named Olga tried her best to make a go of it with an disgusting old degenerate. Foolish men make the tacit assumption that there must be more where she came from. Unfortunately, there are damn few.

So just to make it clear, we are talking about exceptions, no? 

[TomT]

So just to make it clear, we are talking about exceptions, no? 

Yes and that's a very dangerous thing to do. It's hard enough to find a beautiful, atypical woman with whom one is compatible. To try to accomplish the same thing with a very young girl takes foolishness to a higher plateau.

[Muzh_1]

So just to make it clear, we are talking about exceptions, no? 

Yes and that's a very dangerous thing to do.

Agree.