Russian women under 30....just how serious are they?

[capricorn rising]

Excluding scammers and good-time girls - how serious is a single girl under 30 with no children about finding a WM?

I read their profiles...I've been to their facebook pages...seen the photos of them smiling with friends, family. I was recently looking at profiles of women in Tver...what a beautiful city! Why would anyone want to leave their family and friends behind??

Unless a one-in-a-million rich handsome guy comes calling I just don't see what an average WM can offer these women, and I am getting discouraged.

Should I be looking for economically troubled areas? small villages? Need some insight.

[TomT]

It's unpredictable but the traditional wisdom is that the teens and early twenties are extremely risky, the late twenties are somewhat less of a problem and the thirties are the sweet spot.

There is no accounting for some of the strange things that have happened, though.

[shakespear]

Unless a one-in-a-million rich handsome guy comes calling I just don't see what an average WM can offer these women, and I am getting discouraged.

Should I be looking for economically troubled areas? small villages? Need some insight.

The best way to be successful with FSU women who are out-of-your-league "appearance wise" is to find one with a child.  Most FSU men will not accept the responsibility of raising another man's child.  Open your heart to her child and she will open her heart to you. 

[rosco]

Younger girls have the advantage that time is on their side. This basically means that fewer are desperate to find love abroad, for security and a happy family life. Of course we can all generalise here and I guess your looking for a majority opinion but the true fact remains that many girls in their teens and twenties are looking for guys like you.

There's a great debate to be had about the economic argument but I wouldn't necessarily head down that road. You might just end up finding a wife who wants you for the wrong reasons. Treat the experience and look for a woman as you would back home, you've every chance of finding her.

Good luck.

[Rasputin]

I met my wife when she was 26 and I was 36. She wasn't looking for a WM, but looking for a good husband. Yes, she was serious 

[Larry]

It's unpredictable but the traditional wisdom is that the teens and early twenties are extremely risky, the late twenties are somewhat less of a problem and the thirties are the sweet spot.

That has been consistent with my experience.  I've met several serious girls who were in their twenties, but they were late twenties.  Almost every one who was in her early twenties was flighty and not serious at all.

The best way to be successful with FSU women who are out-of-your-league "appearance wise" is to find one with a child.  Most FSU men will not accept the responsibility of raising another man's child.  Open your heart to her child and she will open her heart to you.   

That seems to have worked for me
 
The downside is the ones with a child often seem to have little time to develop any rapport, communicate, build a relationship, etc.

[2tallbill]

Excluding scammers and good-time girls - how serious is a single girl under 30 with no children about finding a WM?

Should I be looking for economically troubled areas? small villages? Need some insight.

If you are 35 I would give you different advice than if you are 45 or 55.
Regardless of your age I would recommend that you don't seek any girl
under 25-27.

If you are 40 or older then I would recommend at forgetting 20 somethings
altogether. You can find a woman in her 30's who is every bit as attractive as
a woman who is younger. So why even chase the 20 somethings?

Targeting girls in economic troubled areas is fine at first but then someday
she lives with you in a non economic troubled area. You can marry a 18, 19,
20 year old girl, but you won't still be married to her years down the road.

If your goal is to marry a girl and be married until the end of time then you
want to seek a girl with some life experience. Her life experience might just
be the thing that helps keep everything together. Remember the girl will be
leaving her family and friends and everything she knows. She will suffer from
culture shock, homesickness, and loneliness. Everything will be difficult for her
at first. She will have difficulty with navigation, transportation, language, and
the list goes on and on.

It will probably be her life experience (combined with your help and patience)
that helps her get through this and other bumps in the road of life along the
way.

Life experience will tell her that it's not that easy to find someone to love her
kids. It's her life experience that tells her that yes indeed things could be worse.
If she has no life experience who's to say that she shouldn't just shack up with
that guy from the gym? without life experience why not run home to mamma and
catch a local guy.

I look at the young twenty something girls like bread that has been in the oven
for 15 minutes. Yes, they look good on the outside but they aren't finished yet
on the inside.

Udachi !

Bill

[capricorn rising]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

[rosco]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

I have to agree with some of Bill's advice and he's seen and heard enough to make an educated statement. However, I'm 31 and planning to marry my 21 year old fiancé, so you might be surprised yet? Go write, speak and meet lots of girls and spend time with the one who you form a strong bond with - forget about putting girls in pigeon holes because of nationality and age.

[2tallbill]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

You should be looking at girls who are from 25 to 30 years old.

There aren't any cities where you will find a vastly larger quantity of women to men
at the 25 to 30 age group. Men in the FSU die younger then women in the FSU, but
most men manage to eek out an existence past the age of 30.

Unless you are deformed, unusually ugly, obese, have facial tattoos, a drug addict, 
or some other physical or mental malady you don't need to worry about finding some
haven of young maidens.

My advice is that you read and research everything you can about the FSU starting here
at this forum. I have put together a how to get started thread here http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=4390.msg56897

Read, read and then read some more. Research this topic until your eyes bleed.
As you do your reading and research you will come up with questions. You can search
for the answers using the search feature or start a thread and ask you question(s).

You will get a lot of advice and a lot of information. Some will be very good and some won't
be quite so good. So your job is to sift through the information and use what you think
will work for you, your personality, your goals and your situation. Whatever you do don't
take anything here personally. You probably don't know anyone here and they most likely
don't know you. Use the good stuff and ignore the rest.

Udachi !

Bill

[mendeleyev]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

The problem is that rarely do you find such large age gaps locally.

Well, except in Moscow where a very young lady can be matched to a much older and very wealthy man. She in many cases negotiates some sort of an understanding about a weekly night out with the "girls" and these girls just happen to be young males.

[VIP]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

That is not a large age gap, so that should not be problem.
But I don't think anybody can help you with the ("cities that have those obscene men to women ratios") fantasy. 

[Critic66]

Why are you making the cut at 30? You can find them serious at 50 after 3 kids or at 19 with no kids.

[Rasputin]

I am looking for mid to late 20's (I am 30). Hmmmm I wonder which cities have those obscene men to women ratios? lol

Russians do talk about "cities of brides" where there are reputedly more women looking for husbands than men. Kirov IIRC had this distinction for the longest while. As you are young, dating should not be hard (though we did have one exception)...

[BC]

It's unpredictable but the traditional wisdom is that the teens and early twenties are extremely risky, the late twenties are somewhat less of a problem and the thirties are the sweet spot.

There is no accounting for some of the strange things that have happened, though.

Things do appear to be quite different nowadays vs ten to 15 years ago.. not surprising though it's a new generation of kids growing up, new clothes, new music, new dreams, new everything, even money.  In the end not that different than the teen next door or at your local high school.