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Online andrewfi

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Re: Is This A Normal Way To Manage Your Foreign Relationship?
« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2012, 07:32:54 PM »
Konfushus, yes, nobody looking for a foreign wife is 'normal', not in that regard at least. But it is within the realm of normal behaviours, it ain't illegal, yet.

Chances are that he will have been getting stuff like don't ive her any money. But also he is very likely, just as most British and American men are, to be unaware of how expectations differ between over there and over here. It usually takes a while for a bloke to catch on and quite a few never do and wonder what went wrong.

The big thing here is this. She spent time with the bloke,she liked him. I have never given any intimation that anything else was the case, although some people here have fantasised that the guy was somehow inadequate. Not only did she like him, she liked him enough that she was willing to consider changing her life path such that she might marry the bloke. This is not a little achievement. Asocial people do not get to do such things.

Where he went wrong was in not thinking about her situation. To him it was easy: invite a poor but attractive woman to his home, show her the greatness that life with him would offer and wait for her to swoon and gasp acceptance of his terms.

In this he was not and is not alone. Guys still have the memories passed down from a decade or two ago of women willing to sell their future for an air ticket and a chance at a different colour passport. Women worth having do not come anywhere close to that. They probably never did.

Thing is though that women look to men to be able to provide for them, or more importantly for their kids. This man fell over because he refused to see her perspective, to empathise with her. He saw things only from his side and from his experience and an assumption that a pleasant time spent together would end up with him married to this very pleasant young woman.
For her, he could not see that her visiting him for a couple of months had a real cost to her and that if he wanted her to go be with him then the ONLY way it could happen was if he helped to meet those costs. That boded very badly for the future, a future during which she WOULD be dependent upon him for an extended period of time.

From where I was sitting it looked to me that he had had bad experiences in Ukraine and chose to withdraw himself. He wanted to shift all the burden of courtship onto the women he he invites to visit him. (I am sure she is not the only candidate for this guy's big love!)

The cost to him is a mere bagatelle and this girl knows it.

She knows that the money is not the root issue. She knows that his willingness to help her to enable her self fulfillment, or lack of it, is the root. But by marrying him she knows that she would be enabling his self fulfillment. And no, we did not put it quite those terms when we talked about it but that's the gist of it.

If she had gone to visit him in the summer I reckon that nuptials would have been the likely and happy outcome. He blew it.


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Re: Is This A Normal Way To Manage Your Foreign Relationship?
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2012, 03:37:11 PM »

Where he went wrong was in not thinking about her situation. To him it was easy: invite a poor but attractive woman to his home, show her the greatness that life with him would offer and wait for her to swoon and gasp acceptance of his terms.


I'll side with Konfushus. IF this is real and IF this guy met the alleged young hottie, I can almost guarantee that his "support" group is telling him exactly what to do and the poor sap (having no cojones because of his own nerdiness) will definitely revert to his friends' opinions. IF this was real.

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Re: Is This A Normal Way To Manage Your Foreign Relationship?
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2012, 03:03:37 AM »
Perhaps Andrew and Manny have something with the argument of women liking/wanting older men?  The article in the UK Telegraph mentions women such as Anna Soderstrom, 29, who is set to marry Monty Python alumnus Terry Jones, 70. Also former UK chancellor Lord Nigel Lawson, 80, and his new love, Dr. Tina Jennings, an academic, 37 years his junior.

The article goes on to speak of the advantages of older men, their wealth, intellect, laser-like wit and alpha male status. It seems that while some of these characteristics might apply to individuals such as Terry Jones or Lord Lawson, I've never noticed them in any of the members of RUA.  :laugh: 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/9141084/Nigel-Lawson-Terry-Jones-and-the-attraction-of-the-older-man.html
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Re: Is This A Normal Way To Manage Your Foreign Relationship?
« Reply #138 on: April 01, 2012, 02:54:16 PM »
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I'm sorry but that guy seems like a complete douche, they are having sex and he wants her in the UK for a period of time but isn't willing to support her in any meaningful way? if he was serious about her and not just using her sex he'd put a small sum towards her expenses surely? I know I sure as hell would if we had known each other long enough and were having sex, it is only fair.

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Re: Is This A Normal Way To Manage Your Foreign Relationship?
« Reply #139 on: April 01, 2012, 03:49:33 PM »
The article in the UK Telegraph mentions women such as Anna Soderstrom, 29, who is set to marry Monty Python alumnus Terry Jones, 70.
And Terry Jones isn't, even in his "sophisticated" years, what one would call a "looker"....but he can certainly lecture on medieval history for hours on end if she's into that sort of thing!
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