Anastasia.com scam or real?

[John Petaca]

Hi Sharon,
 
You think that I have any chance of destroying Anastasia?
Now I am convinced that we can not do nothing to stop them continue to act well. In ruadventures there are several places where we talk about them.
They are opinions accusing them seriously, even criminal.
I think if it is so clear that they are committing fraudulent activities, why not have acted the prosecution or the American police?

[John Petaca]

Hi Tom, 

You, here is a teacher. You have a lot of experience and feedback can always take a lesson.
I was surprised when you said I recounted the details are irrelevant. I imagine you already immunized the things you've heard of Anastasia.
Sometimes, the explanation of the details helps to understand better. You said it well written transmissions are important.
It's actually the only thing left. Sometimes I have been amazed when I reread something written above.
Some people have limited ability to express themselves. Not always what they say corresponds to its reality.
Here we say that the talk is taken by the wind.

 I would like to know your opinion of how Anastasia.

 - What linkages exist between Anastasia, Natasha club, Russian bride club and others that use the same database?
 - What legal and commercial relationship between Anastasia and local agencies of Russia, Ukrainian ..?
- Why not direct competition Anastasia attacks by these irregularities?
- You know some other types of business scams that practice is marriage agency?

 I will be happy to read your answers.

[TomT]

The time that you spend pursuing Anastasia would be more productively spent searching for a serious girl. We already know that they are arguably the worst International Marriage Broker in the world; you don't need to convince us.

Yes, it's abundantly clear that there are financial ties between companies that share databases. In some cases, they have common ownership. It's also well-known that the large brokers make direct payments to their local affiliates. This is not anything new; agencies have been scamming their clients since day one. It's just much better organized now. The key is to find a strategy to get what you want out of them; anything else is a total failure.

I really prefer not to waste a lot of time dissecting their operation. Doing business with them is very risky for someone who can't tell the difference between a scam and a good opportunity; that's all that readers need to know.

[Larry]

We already know that they are arguably the worst International Marriage Broker in the world; you don't need to convince us.

Indeed

[Slumba]

Anastasia is bad, next PowerPoint slide please!

[sharonhaber00]

Summing it up:
When send expression of interest to a girl of 30 something on Elena's models, you get negative answer nine times out of ten (the tenth confuses with the buttons). But when you add 19 y.o. 20 something hot gorgeous girl to a contact list on Anastasia - you might get letter tomorrow. Would you like to read?  

[Slumba]

Summing it up:
When send expression of interest to a girl of 30 something on Elena's models, you get negative answer nine times out of ten (the tenth confuses with the buttons). But when you add 19 y.o. 20 something hot gorgeous girl to a contact list on Anastasia - you might get letter tomorrow. Would you like to read?

Very succinct, Sharon!

[AvHdB]

Summing it up:
When send expression of interest to a girl of 30 something on Elena's models, you get negative answer nine times out of ten (the tenth confuses with the buttons). But when you add 19 y.o. 20 something hot gorgeous girl to a contact list on Anastasia - you might get letter tomorrow. Would you like to read?

   Oh come on you mean the 21 and 22 years did not contact you. Perhaps they learned ethics and morality. Praise the Lord!

[JayH]

The time that you spend pursuing Anastasia would be more productively spent searching for a serious girl. We already know that they are arguably the worst International Marriage Broker in the world; you don't need to convince us.

Yes, it's abundantly clear that there are financial ties between companies that share databases. In some cases, they have common ownership. It's also well-known that the large brokers make direct payments to their local affiliates. This is not anything new; agencies have been scamming their clients since day one. It's just much better organized now. The key is to find a strategy to get what you want out of them; anything else is a total failure.

I really prefer not to waste a lot of time dissecting their operation. Doing business with them is very risky for someone who can't tell the difference between a scam and a good opportunity; that's all that readers need to know.

Why have some of these American companies not been pursued through the court system in the US?It is clear that the representations made are flawed. Tom -you give good advice to individual that his time would be better spent trying to achieve his personal original aims--I think most come to that conclusion and lose interest in bigger picture issues.Have there been attempts to sue? Class action?
I also take note here of the connections and vested interests of many-- so I am sure that you will have views on this

[TomT]

Why have some of these American companies not been pursued through the court system in the US?It is clear that the representations made are flawed. Tom -you give good advice to individual that his time would be better spent trying to achieve his personal original aims--I think most come to that conclusion and lose interest in bigger picture issues.Have there been attempts to sue? Class action?
I also take note here of the connections and vested interests of many-- so I am sure that you will have views on this

The Terms of Service for International Marriage Broker sites are written by extremely competent attorneys and the damn fool clients don't read them. Yes, there have been attempts to bring suit and, predictably, they have failed miserably. When plaintiffs are whack-jobs who sue for things that they weren't promised and defendants have massive resources for litigation, what other outcome is possible?

[AvHdB]

Why have some of these American companies not been pursued through the court system in the US?It is clear that the representations made are flawed. Tom -you give good advice to individual that his time would be better spent trying to achieve his personal original aims--I think most come to that conclusion and lose interest in bigger picture issues.Have there been attempts to sue? Class action?
I also take note here of the connections and vested interests of many-- so I am sure that you will have views on this

The Terms of Service for International Marriage Broker sites are written by extremely competent attorneys and the damn fool clients don't read them. Yes, there have been attempts to bring suit and, not surprisingly, they have failed miserably. Half of the reason is that the plaintiffs have been whack-jobs; the other half is that defendants have massive resources for litigation and are well prepared.

Tom is quite correct.

Further the amounts are usually small and those victimized are often "whack-jobs". Proving that they are victimized involves the women from the former Soviet Union to testify against an International Marriage Broker that uses a local agency in the region where the women is from.

Good Luck.

[PBRstreetg]

The key is to find a strategy to get what you want out of them;
 that's all that readers need to know.

'Nuff said'
 
Greetings to all

[JayH]

The Terms of Service for International Marriage Broker sites are written by extremely competent attorneys and the damn fool clients don't read them. Yes, there have been attempts to bring suit and, predictably, they have failed miserably. When plaintiffs are whack-jobs who sue for things that they weren't promised and defendants have massive resources for litigation, what other outcome is possible?

I think that as you make the presumption on here that many are "whack-jobs" when they arrive here with questions-- and in many cases you are probably correct.
Not all who go and lose their money irrationally are "whack'jobs"-- some choose to spend money on sites in good faith and belief-- so let us suppose someone can pass that non-wacko test.
Given that money is paid in good faith -- and the reality is what they think they are buying is often not as purported -why do they not have a cause of action?

[AvHdB]

The Terms of Service for International Marriage Broker sites are written by extremely competent attorneys and the damn fool clients don't read them. Yes, there have been attempts to bring suit and, predictably, they have failed miserably. When plaintiffs are whack-jobs who sue for things that they weren't promised and defendants have massive resources for litigation, what other outcome is possible?

I think that as you make the presumption on here that many are "whack-jobs" when they arrive here with questions-- and in many cases you are probably correct.
Not all who go and lose their money irrationally are "whack'jobs"-- some choose to spend money on sites in good faith and belief-- so let us suppose someone can pass that non-wacko test.
Given that money is paid in good faith -- and the reality is what they think they are buying is often not as purported -why do they not have a cause of action?

JayH, The damage is usually done to one's self esteem ~ that is hard to monetize. Most men probably spend less than $200,= and I am confident that Anastasia can point to successes. AvHdB

[JayH]

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I think that as you make the presumption on here that many are "whack-jobs" when they arrive here n?

JayH, The damage is usually done to one's self esteem ~ that is hard to monetize. Most men probably spend less than $200,= and I am confident that Anastasia can point to successes. AvHdB

Av -- I think that there are plenty who have spent north of $10,000 . It is very easy to spend more than $200 per week  or more-- so the sums are not trivial.I would guess a class action to recover outgoings would easily run into $millions fairly quickly--let alone the damages.