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[ferreck83]

It amazes me that all these sweet and kind looking women KNOW what they are doing is wrong yet they do not find any pity for the poor men they are scamming. Its really scary how they have become.

A rather simplified generalisation don't you think There are many of these ladies who are just helping delusioned Western men to live out a fantasy and I would suggest many of these ladies feel they are giving good value for money! Theres nothing scary about it, for some its a full time job The more suckers there are out there the more there will be waiting to cater for the demand!

Yeah well, i have been left heartbroken and probably emotionally scared for life because of it, and i was searching for someone serious.
I've seen recent pictures of her, chatted in webcam send her many gifts. I was reassured i would have a future with this woman i fell in love with.  And now it has been all shattered and i don't think ill ever trust a FSU woman again!

[Bruce Lee]

It amazes me that all these sweet and kind looking women KNOW what they are doing is wrong yet they do not find any pity for the poor men they are scamming. Its really scary how they have become.

A rather simplified generalisation don't you think There are many of these ladies who are just helping delusioned Western men to live out a fantasy and I would suggest many of these ladies feel they are giving good value for money! Theres nothing scary about it, for some its a full time job The more suckers there are out there the more there will be waiting to cater for the demand!

Yeah well, i have been left heartbroken and probably emotionally scared for life because of it, and i was searching for someone serious.
I've seen recent pictures of her, chatted in webcam send her many gifts. I was reassured i would have a future with this woman i fell in love with.  And now it has been all shattered and i don't think ill ever trust a FSU woman again!

Were you paying per minute for the webcam chat + sending gifts through the agency or doing all this independently from the agency Ferreck?

[ferreck83]

With the agency as it is the only way to communicate with the women.

[Bruce Lee]

With the agency as it is the only way to communicate with the women.

Sadly that's the business element of it! Not all communications will be like this with FSUW and not every single one will be out to rip you off! The best lesson you can lean from this is to get them away from the agency as quick as possible and take control of the communications yourselves.

Good luck in the future!

[ChrisE]

With the agency as it is the only way to communicate with the women.

 Best advice I can give here is to followBruce's advice and go someplace that enables direct contact with the ladies soon after meeting. There are several available-Elenas Models and Lucky Lovers for example. I had the best luck overall so far with LL, and it seems to be the best value for the price. Going with a service such as what Ed provides can be another, though pricier, option. 

[upsylon]

With the agency as it is the only way to communicate with the women.

moreover with non existing women, but with an employee of the site, not the girl of the picture (it would be too good to be true)

so you give money to the site for talking with a fake woman...

[upsylon]

The women are paid by the agency to make photos put on the site and then disappear. Then is discussion with everyone but the woman on the picture (employees of the site), some are even paid by the agency to have chats and webcams chats with the men .. but they have NO intention to have any serious relationship with any man from the site. it makes the thing artificially real but in reality it's a huge trap. many women are paid by agencies to have profiles on dating sites and collaborate with them but doesn't seek anybody, have already a man there and just participe to scam naive and fool western men?

[Boris]

This venture is not for everyone. There are real sharks in the water. There are women and Agencies who will drain your money and emotions without losing a minute of sleep.

[AvHdB]

Ferreck,

Welcome to RUA - Keep on breathing and you will be around for some time.

Yes you have a broken heart but in an offbeat way that is a good thing it will repair its self with time and you will try to love again, hopefully more carefully and wisely.

The true Slavic female is not for everyone they tend to beautiful, wise and honest. The work hard and do not spare you there thoughts and feelings. They are passionate and emotional and look to there partners for support and intimacy.  If you can provide this than proceed with caution, these women will catch you.

AvHdB

[Rasputin]

Best advice I can give here is to followBruce's advice and go someplace that enables direct contact with the ladies soon after meeting.

If you can get your account "verified" (or whatever they call it), the mamba network pretty much allows instantaneous direct contact with any woman interested in you 

[BeachBum]

Or get a profile on Vkontakte then find the women you met on the agency site and see if they will talk to you on Vkontakte.  If not, drop them.  If they do, continue your relationship on Vkontakte, e-mail,  and Skype for free.  Don't get emotionally invested before you move to the free options.

[AvHdB]

If they do, continue your relationship on Vkontakte, e-mail,  and Skype for free.  Don't get emotionally invested before you move to the free options.

DON'T GET EMOTIONALLY INVESTED UNTIL YOU HAVE MET                                                             HER!
There is Love Planet and Mamba for free but you need a contact in Ukraine or Russia to help set up the account. You receive a PIN # via SMS to activate the account.

[BeachBum]

If they do, continue your relationship on Vkontakte, e-mail,  and Skype for free.  Don't get emotionally invested before you move to the free options.

DON'T GET EMOTIONALLY INVESTED UNTIL YOU HAVE MET                                                             HER!
There is Love Planet and Mamba for free but you need a contact in Ukraine or Russia to help set up the account. You receive a PIN # via SMS to activate the account.

Yep, point is, go free early, multiple options for doing it.

[Eyjafjallajökull]

moreover with non existing women, but with an employee of the site, not the girl of the picture (it would be too good to be true)
so you give money to the site for talking with a fake woman...

I had a conversation with a girl who worked as "a fake woman" as you put it, doing all the correspondence with the men instead of women. She actually felt pretty good about the job she was doing, she said she was protecting women from the disappointments and frustrations of online dating. Of course, with their poor language skills and lack of knowledge about other cultures girls on the pictures wouldn't stand a chance. Also, the girls' lack of experience wouldn't help them weed out the mental patients and players, and so on and so forth.

Or get a profile on Vkontakte then find the women you met on the agency site and see if they will talk to you on Vkontakte.

BeachBum, what is the age range of women you find on Vkontakte? I can't overcome my perception that it's a social network for kids and teenagers. 

[BeachBum]

Or get a profile on Vkontakte then find the women you met on the agency site and see if they will talk to you on Vkontakte.

BeachBum, what is the age range of women you find on Vkontakte? I can't overcome my perception that it's a social network for kids and teenagers.
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The five I've made friends with are 26 to 41.  I realize the 26 year old is a bit young and unrealistic for me, we've talked about the age thing, but she still likes talking with me and said she finds the discussions interesting.  She said she wants to continue our friendship and looks forward to my e-mails and chats with her.  She does have a kid, so maybe that is a factor.  The other four are 30+.  The probability of finding them on VK may drop with age, I don't know, I haven't looked at anyone younger than 25 to compare with my find rate.  Perhaps all the 18-20 year olds are on there.