Comments on my draft Letter of Invitation and Ex-husband parental rights release

[Bridesofukraine]

I don't know about Ukraine but in Russia no ex-husband will sign this kind of permission. Every notary office has a special form, it is written in Russian and is signed by fathers there. My guess the same applies to Ukraine. Why is a need to invent a wheel?

Your girlfriend will have to get Ukrainian permission for her child to leave the country. As far as I know it is required by their law. She won't be able to cross a boarder without it

The child will not be allowed to leave Ukraine at anytime until there 18th birthday unless the father signs documents allowing the child to leave the country, the document must be given and approved by the Ukrainian government.

[dwfunk]

The "ex-husband" stuff you have written is worthless.  Russian notaries have the appropriate form and it's also in Russian.  Use that.


Your invitation letter is guaranteed to get a denial.  She (you??) will lose the Visa application fee.





-david

[dwfunk]

Some FSU fathers refuse to sign the document but FSU women can be very creative at finding ways to get around this problem. (Westerners don't want to know.)

ah, but it's a very simple 3 step process . . .

1) Long black coat, black hat, sunglasses, borrow brother-in-laws black Escalade . . .   

2) Stand intimidatingly alongside Escalade glaring at ex-husbands apartment balcony . . .

3) receive signature!   


-david

[dwfunk]

Legalities aside, there is so much general waffle in those two letters that is completely meaningless and is certainly not required to be explained, even if they could be bothered reading it all 

and the "parental permission" letter has to be translated. 




-david

[calmissile]

Tracker9195,
You are faced with the same dilemma the rest of us in the US have to deal with.  I have already thoroughly investigated the alternate methods similar to the one you are attempting.

I admit that using the existing K-1/K-2 process is risky in that it does not allow for our prospective brides to come to our country (US) and live prior to making the commitment of marriage in the K-1.  It sucks, but that is the way it is.  After all the research,  we chose to go the K-1/K-2 process.

If you are interested in an alternative solution, go to a specialized immigration attorney.  They handle these alternative methods practically daily.  The thought of doing it yourself I would think is impossible.  You will also have to pay a significant amount of money for their services.

You may find it is easier to spend time in her country long enough for both of you to get to know each other well enough to make a commitment to each other.  It may take multiple trips.  In the mean time you can take photos and videos of your home, the city, and sites to see to give her an idea of what it will be like.

While there are many countries that allow entry into the US without going through this process, unfortunately the FSU countries are not included in the list.  From what I have read, there are talks between Washington and some FSU countries to change this, I would not hold my breath.

If you choose to see an immigration attorney and seek an alternative route, I would strongly suggest that you do not post to this board anything about what you are doing!  Another chap that did so was rudely called every name in the book including a criminal and a fraud.  If you choose to go that route just keep it to yourself.  Some on this board have a real ax to grind about this issue.   We know that many people have success in alternate methods because we talk to them and see them around us all the time.  For me the extra money was not worth the benefit.

Just received the Notice of Action from the USCIS today for the K-1/K-2 visa application.  Now it's going to be another 5-7 months before they can board the plane

You can PM me if you like.  I am not going to get into a big pissing contest again over this topic.

[AvHdB]

Tracker,

I have been with a two Ukraine women and a Russian.

They all received a visa to visit America.

All had either there own business or worked in a senior position in an international firm. The three all owned real estate in Kiev and Moscow and had already traveled to Western Europe.

Yes I understand your plight and difficulty but I do not think your letter that is a bit clumsy will work. I would suggest if possible spend more time together in Europe and find a lawyer and travel agency in her home country that might with enough time and funds get a visa for your partner. The strongest chance for her to come over and see your life style is if she leaves her child behind.

The one thing you absolutely do not want is a negative stamp in her passport.

AvHdB

[shakespear]

If you choose to see an immigration attorney and seek an alternative route, I would strongly suggest that you do not post to this board anything about what you are doing!  Another chap that did so was rudely called every name in the book including a criminal and a fraud. 

Calmissile:

Did you actually read the posts up-thread?

We issued the exact same warnings and cautions to the OP of this thread.

There is a justified difference in our tone when addressing a member with a question verses one who is recommending his actual illegal activities be followed by others.   

[TomT]

The OP hasn't been active since 12 August so, at least as far as he's concerned, these discussions are moot.

[Chris]

The OP hasn't been active since 12 August so, at least as far as he's concerned, these discussions are moot.

Yep, nothing to see here, move along now  the OP has already gone AWOL long ago 

[tracker9195]

One thing is for sure.  Ukrainians are getting into the US...and they are getting here various ways.  From what I can tell they are legal but some are immoral, in my opinion.  In any event, reading the posts here about Visa, etc. has been a learning experience and it certainly is not cut and dry to a newbie like me.  I am continuing to see my girlfriend and I will be returning to Odessa again late September for the sixth time.  Her Ex said he would allow their son to move to the US but he wants to know our relationship and marriage plans are real before signing a document.  I will bring a bunch of homemade videos as suggested by Doug for my girlfriend and family to see.

If anyone has a US Immigration attorney they would recommend please send my a PM with his\her contact details.
Regards,
Tim

[calmissile]

Tim,
I responded to your PM.  Call me when you have time.