Australian visa issues

[Davydushka]

Also guys the joint accounts thing we overcame this as i had given Nat an Australian CBA debit card that she was using in Ukraine and we produced 12 months of statements to the Tribunal showing the withdrawals everynow and again at Ukrainian Bankomats at times when i was not in Ukraine.

You do actually know the banks consider this illegal.

[Schastlivyj]

Also guys the joint accounts thing we overcame this as i had given Nat an Australian CBA debit card that she was using in Ukraine and we produced 12 months of statements to the Tribunal showing the withdrawals everynow and again at Ukrainian Bankomats at times when i was not in Ukraine.

You do actually know the banks consider this illegal.

yes we all know this but they turn a blind eye to it. it is only illegal in the banks eyes if pushed and taken to court the courts would throw it out of court becuase if the person that owns the card has given permission for it to be used by another then it is not classed as fraud.

[Schastlivyj]

Dave & WO I know its not right but they can enforce what they like on their interpretation

All of the above criteria were applied to us at MRT and we had to prove it all.

we had to go thorough MRT as well and because I was still in Russia we simply were not able to prove any of that and in fact nobody asked us to. Those requirements for spouses not for fiancées

I agree that it should only be for spouses but if they want to and they quite often do they can apply all spouse conditions to a fiance visa as i said i found this out the hard way at MRT. I am going to post my submission statement up here from my lawyer to MRT so everyone that is going down this path can see they need to be careful of DIMA and the different interpretations that the Dima Delegates can do.
In the submission you will notice the cohabitation as well.

See attached document below

[Schastlivyj]

I would like to put the tribunals decision document up here but i would have to edit it heavily and it is 200 pages long

[Wild Orchid]

may be you can find your case here http://www.austlii.edu.au/

Just type your names in

[Schastlivyj]

I would also like to mention that under MRT law we were also entitled to a complete copy of Nats file and all the memos and hand written notes from the Aus Embassy in Moscow.

Two things that shocked me were an internal memo from the delegate ( Who was a Russian National emoloyed by the embassy) to her superior saying how she did not like Ukrainian women because you know what they are like they are all P........ she wrote.
And a hand written one back to her from her superior saying yes we all know what there like ( Who was an Australian National) Both no longer work there.

Also if you do not have all the documents in the right order as laid out in the application checklist in the applicant and sponsors documents they deduct points of the supposed 100 point score you have to acheive. This also came to light at tribunal, that would have to be Australian Immigration bureaucracy at its best.

 

[Schastlivyj]

may be you can find your case here http://www.austlii.edu.au/

Just type your names in

No it is not up there this is where it used to be and is probably still there

http://www.mrt-rrt.gov.au/Decisions/Decisions-Bulletin/Bulletin/default.aspx?retain=true&pg=1

[bobjf]

g/day mark
i just had a look for our case but can't find it either.
do you know of any other way of finding the case/results etc.
cheers
bob

[Schastlivyj]

g/day mark
i just had a look for our case but can't find it either.
do you know of any other way of finding the case/results etc.
cheers
bob

You wont find them there Bob as MRT only started publishing them on the web Jan 06 before that they were a printed copy but the link WO put in her post might have it as that site is for pre 2006 as well. They also only publish those that are of interest and not all of the cases but there is another site around that has all the decisions but i cant find it now.

[Wild Orchid]

Two things that shocked me were an internal memo from the delegate ( Who was a Russian National emoloyed by the embassy) to her superior saying how she did not like Ukrainian women because you know what they are like they are all P........ she wrote.
And a hand written one back to her from her superior saying yes we all know what there like ( Who was an Australian National) Both no longer work there.

do you remember the name of RW? Mine was Irina Novozhilova. She interviewed some other women whom I've met later in Au and refused them visa. I'm convinced 100% that she simply didn't like me and based her decision purely on her personal feelings. I wish we knew that we could get hold of this sort of information. 


Bob, you can try my link. I didn't find our case, but I found the case of my ex-friend, who tried to bring her RM after dumping her Au husband after 4 months of marriage.

[Schastlivyj]

Sure do know there names Rachel Kennett was the officer in charge and the other that interviewed Nat was the case officer Maria Miroshnichenko.

You can get hold of your file if you put in a request for a copy it has everything in it.

It was shown that these two women let there personal feelings interfere with making a decision. It was also recommended by MRT to Amanda Vanstone who was the immigration minister at the time that the two different types of visas  Prospective Marriage visa and Spouse visa be totally seperated from each other rather than have to meet the same conditions of evidence of relationship. To this date this still has not been done.

[Schastlivyj]

WO If you want a copy of all your documents and thiers see the form i have attached to this post

[bobjf]

Two things that shocked me were an internal memo from the delegate ( Who was a Russian National emoloyed by the embassy) to her superior saying how she did not like Ukrainian women because you know what they are like they are all P........ she wrote.
And a hand written one back to her from her superior saying yes we all know what there like ( Who was an Australian National) Both no longer work there.

do you remember the name of RW? Mine was Irina Novozhilova. She interviewed some other women whom I've met later in Au and refused them visa. I'm convinced 100% that she simply didn't like me and based her decision purely on her personal feelings. I wish we knew that we could get hold of this sort of information.  


Bob, you can try my link. I didn't find our case, but I found the case of my ex-friend, who tried to bring her RM after dumping her Au husband after 4 months of marriage.

thanks w/o
 i already tried your link , i'm guessing our case is to old  

natasha remembers sadly ,coming away from the interview feeling like she was dirty & not knowing why that creature seemed to hate her

[bobjf]

Sure do know there names Rachel Kennett was the officer in charge and the other that interviewed Nat was the case officer Maria Miroshnichenko.

same bitch mark & Nat reckons she got off far to easy for the grief she caused us.
NAT says she still wants a piece of her

[Schastlivyj]

Sure do know there names Rachel Kennett was the officer in charge and the other that interviewed Nat was the case officer Maria Miroshnichenko.

same bitch mark & Nat reckons she got off far to easy for the grief she caused us.
NAT says she still wants a piece of her

They were both found to be predjudice against all Russian/Western and Ukrainian/Western marriages i would agree they did get of far to easy tell Nat i would still like a piece of them to. The trouble with the case officers and their supervisers is they are given the powers to make life changing decisions for Families without the proper Psychological training or know how.