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Title: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Manny on January 10, 2017, 01:13:59 AM
This could be an interesting development...

http://president.gov.by/en/news_en/view/belarus-introduces-five-day-visa-free-regime-for-citizens-of-80-states-15344/


Interesting if correct.  :nod:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on January 10, 2017, 01:56:43 AM
Oho, got all 'excited' - until I saw

1/ Applies to Minsk airport only

2/ NOT if routing via Minsk to / from  Russia... as they are considered domestic flights - so no border controls..

Not helpful for those VISA nationals seeking to transit to from / Russia :(
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on January 10, 2017, 01:57:51 AM
This could be an interesting development...

http://president.gov.by/en/news_en/view/belarus-introduces-five-day-visa-free-regime-for-citizens-of-80-states-15344/


Interesting if correct.  :nod:

It is indeed correct. We had the father-in-law on the blower yesterday, sharing the news. I thanked him for sharing but said it was a pity it was their turn to come to us!  :)
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: el_guero on January 10, 2017, 01:18:36 PM
5 days is better than paying for a visa. But, I would prefer a 14 day visa. I could see more of the country.

:)

It didn't say anything about transit out. I wonder if you can leave out by train? Or, if you must leave out the same way you came in?

And I agree with Manny. There seem to be some loopholes - how do you prove 10,000 Euro insurance? In USA all we carry is an insurance card.

Wayne
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: andrewfi on January 11, 2017, 11:22:48 AM
Insurance will probably be purchased at the airport on arrival. Chances are that external insurance will not suffice or will be very hard to demonstrate compliance with Belarusian requirements. €10,000 of cover is miniscule so my guess is that this will prove to be a form of entry tax.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Tom Cat on January 13, 2017, 06:10:48 PM
The title is a bit deceiving. Unless you have a Russian passport.

How to travel from visa-free Belarus to Russia?

http://rbth.com/international/2017/01/12/how-to-travel-from-visa-free-belarus-to-russia_679541
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Omega1982 on January 13, 2017, 09:07:57 PM
The title is a bit deceiving. Unless you have a Russian passport.

How to travel from visa-free Belarus to Russia?

http://rbth.com/international/2017/01/12/how-to-travel-from-visa-free-belarus-to-russia_679541


Tom, the article says traveling from Belarus to Russia is only legal by air and with a Russian visa?  How is it illegal to cross into Russia from Belarus by train with a Belarusian and Russian visa?  Belarus even offers a 48 hour transit visa if traveling by train.  In the transit visa application you must note which country you are traveling from and to.  For example from Poland to Russia, would obviously warrant a transit through Belarusian territory.  Or from Ukraine to Lithuania. 
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on January 14, 2017, 02:01:14 AM
The title is a bit deceiving. Unless you have a Russian passport.

How to travel from visa-free Belarus to Russia?

http://rbth.com/international/2017/01/12/how-to-travel-from-visa-free-belarus-to-russia_679541


Tom, the article says traveling from Belarus to Russia is only legal by air and with a Russian visa?  How is it illegal to cross into Russia from Belarus by train with a Belarusian and Russian visa?

It isn't ..One arrivex by air - collecting the BL visa, then onward by overground transport...

Going back this way after five days would be difficult - unless getting another BL visa at Moscow

What is interesting is why 'Lukashouldgo' has done it.. ? Money?

Now entering Ru without a visa and being checked is much easier..

He may find that Moscow realises this and it will be quietly dropped - if it means increased border security with Ru..
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Tom Cat on March 09, 2017, 06:17:00 PM
Has anyone tried visa free travel to Belarus yet? I've been considering A possible stop in Minsk, should I decide to jump back into FSUW dating.


Visa-Free Travel And Registration In Belarus: Not So Simple

http://m.belarusdigest.com/story/visa-free-travel-and-registration-belarus-not-so-simple-28619
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on March 09, 2017, 11:07:59 PM
Has anyone tried visa free travel to Belarus yet? I've been considering A possible stop in Minsk, should I decide to jump back into FSUW dating.


Visa-Free Travel And Registration In Belarus: Not So Simple

http://m.belarusdigest.com/story/visa-free-travel-and-registration-belarus-not-so-simple-28619

The article's author can hardly be relied upon - if his info re UK 'registration' requirements are anything to go by. Completely false info.

I know of someone who used this system to visit BL last month to visit a lady - he will be going again - but next time with an invitation visa.









Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on October 31, 2017, 12:04:56 PM
We had the pleasure of using the 5 day visa free window back in May this year. No problems at all and as Andrew suggested above, we did have to buy insurance at the airport. I recall it was about £5 per person or thereabouts.

My folks visited for the first time and absolutely loved Minsk. They plan on returning soon with some friends for a long weekend, rather than stomach the Euro capitals and all the crap that goes with it.

Great hotels, bars, restaurants, plenty to do and see all whilst being safe from terrorists and thieves. Your money also goes pretty far.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Poldark on October 31, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
We had the pleasure of using the 5 day visa free window back in May this year. No problems at all and as Andrew suggested above, we did have to buy insurance at the airport. I recall it was about £5 per person or thereabouts.

My folks visited for the first time and absolutely loved Minsk. They plan on returning soon with some friends for a long weekend, rather than stomach the Euro capitals and all the crap that goes with it.

Great hotels, bars, restaurants, plenty to do and see all whilst being safe from terrorists and thieves. Your money also goes pretty far.
What's it like as from the recent videos I've seen it looks rather dead in Minsk, like there is noone there at all which is strange, unless the videos were taken at odd times during the day or is it really that empty?
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 01, 2017, 02:45:01 AM
I know what you mean.

Through the day like any city, it’s always really busy. In the evening, I’ve walked through the centre and it can feel quite quiet. That’s not a bad thing though and can make for a pleasant summer walk.

The centres nearly all newish buildings with wide roads, no litter and very clean. Most people working in the center will live in the suburbs so in the evening those on lower wages won’t be in the city unless they’re hanging out in the parks.

Don’t be fooled by the quiet appearance though. All the good bars, restaurants and music venues are always busy and booking ahead is advisable. Plenty girls too.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 01, 2017, 06:34:45 AM
BY is trying to become a 'Las Vegas' ..

Note all the ads for Casinos - if you fly Belavia 
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 01, 2017, 02:48:25 PM
BY is trying to become a 'Las Vegas' ..

Note all the ads for Casinos - if you fly Belavia

Yea there’s quite a few but then there always was during the time I’ve been with my wife. You get lots of Turks flying in to gamble, drink & chase local tale.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Poldark on November 01, 2017, 03:06:41 PM
I know what you mean.

Through the day like any city, it’s always really busy. In the evening, I’ve walked through the centre and it can feel quite quiet. That’s not a bad thing though and can make for a pleasant summer walk.

The centres nearly all newish buildings with wide roads, no litter and very clean. Most people working in the center will live in the suburbs so in the evening those on lower wages won’t be in the city unless they’re hanging out in the parks.

Don’t be fooled by the quiet appearance though. All the good bars, restaurants and music venues are always busy and booking ahead is advisable. Plenty girls too.
I'll add it to the list of places to visit, especially as I understand it's still in the Soviet state and it's probably one of the few areas to go to see much of it still in action today, even if under a different guise. I do hope it is actually busy in bars and the like, would hate to be the only sod there :GRRRR: :ROFL:
Yea there’s quite a few but then there always was during the time I’ve been with my wife. You get lots of Turks flying in to gamble, drink & chase local tale.
How does it work out for the Turks?
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Confederate on November 01, 2017, 11:25:25 PM
I know what you mean.

Through the day like any city, it’s always really busy. In the evening, I’ve walked through the centre and it can feel quite quiet. That’s not a bad thing though and can make for a pleasant summer walk.

The centres nearly all newish buildings with wide roads, no litter and very clean. Most people working in the center will live in the suburbs so in the evening those on lower wages won’t be in the city unless they’re hanging out in the parks.

Don’t be fooled by the quiet appearance though. All the good bars, restaurants and music venues are always busy and booking ahead is advisable. Plenty girls too.
I'll add it to the list of places to visit, especially as I understand it's still in the Soviet state and it's probably one of the few areas to go to see much of it still in action today, even if under a different guise. I do hope it is actually busy in bars and the like, would hate to be the only sod there :GRRRR: :ROFL:
Yea there’s quite a few but then there always was during the time I’ve been with my wife. You get lots of Turks flying in to gamble, drink & chase local tale.
How does it work out for the Turks?

They make up tales about the tail they never got. If it’s anything like Kiev sex tourists can find themselves in trouble if they upset certain types.  :)
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 02, 2017, 01:42:59 AM

They make up tales about the tail they never got. If it’s anything like Kiev sex tourists can find themselves in trouble if they upset certain types.  :)

Well at least you spelt 'tail' correctly in the context of it's use .... horrible term

Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

We have sex tourists to Kyiv on here who return and experience no grief....

When were YOU last in the FSU ? ..... Clearly, like most subjects you post on - not recently ...   or was that your 'nephew'  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 02, 2017, 01:48:20 AM
I know what you mean.

Through the day like any city, it’s always really busy. In the evening, I’ve walked through the centre and it can feel quite quiet. That’s not a bad thing though and can make for a pleasant summer walk.

The centres nearly all newish buildings with wide roads, no litter and very clean. Most people working in the center will live in the suburbs so in the evening those on lower wages won’t be in the city unless they’re hanging out in the parks.

Don’t be fooled by the quiet appearance though. All the good bars, restaurants and music venues are always busy and booking ahead is advisable. Plenty girls too.
I'll add it to the list of places to visit, especially as I understand it's still in the Soviet state and it's probably one of the few areas to go to see much of it still in action today, even if under a different guise. I do hope it is actually busy in bars and the like, would hate to be the only sod there :GRRRR: :ROFL:
Yea there’s quite a few but then there always was during the time I’ve been with my wife. You get lots of Turks flying in to gamble, drink & chase local tale.
How does it work out for the Turks?

If you find yourself sitting in a bar with no girls to entertain, you’re most definitely in the wrong place. It’s a capital city with plenty quality venues.

I never noticed as many Turks last time but there were always plenty blokes coming through immigration, looking for a good time. My wife and some of her friends had absolutely no time for them and saw them as pushy sex tourists.

Others embraced it. I recall going out for dinner one night to an expensive restaurant and there were three Turkish blokes entertaining about 5 or 6 much younger girls. Where there’s money being thrown about and all that.

It was one of the guys birthdays and they were sitting not too far from us. They would look at me and give me the eyes as though I were having fun fishing in the same pond. They sent some champagne & birthday cake over to our table and I remember wanting to send it back.

Mrs Rosco suggested it would be very rude and in the end, the guys were actually decent enough.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Tuotur on November 11, 2017, 10:56:14 PM
Oho, got all 'excited' - until I saw

1/ Applies to Minsk airport only

2/ NOT if routing via Minsk to / from  Russia... as they are considered domestic flights - so no border controls..

Not helpful for those VISA nationals seeking to transit to from / Russia :(


All information about the visa regime in Russia you can find here. In this country, laws change every week. Lol. Be careful)))

https://myvisatorussia.com/en/info/ - INFO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Russia VISA POLICY
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/f9/26/4e/f9264e692b6edcefa314292f7a484e8c--russian-submarine-at-the-beach.jpg)
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 12, 2017, 01:19:11 AM


Not helpful for those VISA nationals seeking to transit to from / Russia :(


All information about the visa regime in Russia you can find here. In this country, laws change every week. Lol. Be careful)))


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Welcome!

Except I was talking about Belarus - not Russia )) 

As for Visa rules changing all the time - oh, how I know .....   Got caught by the temporary - must register in Russia within 24 hours - during the Confederation Cup 2017!
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Markje on November 12, 2017, 01:43:27 AM

They make up tales about the tail they never got. If it’s anything like Kiev sex tourists can find themselves in trouble if they upset certain types.  :)

Well at least you spelt 'tail' correctly in the context of it's use .... horrible term

Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

We have sex tourists to Kyiv on here who return and experience no grief....

When were YOU last in the FSU ? ..... Clearly, like most subjects you post on - not recently ...   or was that your 'nephew'  :chuckle:
right, and please spell The Hague correctly. its 's-Gravenhage in Dutch
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 12, 2017, 02:45:03 AM

They make up tales about the tail they never got. If it’s anything like Kiev sex tourists can find themselves in trouble if they upset certain types.  :)

Well at least you spelt 'tail' correctly in the context of it's use .... horrible term

Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

We have sex tourists to Kyiv on here who return and experience no grief....

When were YOU last in the FSU ? ..... Clearly, like most subjects you post on - not recently ...   or was that your 'nephew'  :chuckle:

Trolling much Moby?
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: redroo on November 12, 2017, 10:21:10 PM
Not a single one of my hundreds of Ukrainian friends and family (from all over the center/centre, north, south and east) could give a toss how you spell Kiev/Kyiv.
We don't need spelling nazis here do we?? I don't care that North Americans can't spell english words either   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 13, 2017, 01:10:17 AM
How it is spelt is most important to many ..


Kiev

http://www.infoukes.com/faq/kyiv-2/ (http://www.infoukes.com/faq/kyiv-2/)


or Kyiv

https://wikitravel.org/en/Kyiv (https://wikitravel.org/en/Kyiv)

A little like someone - like me - over 10 years ago ( use of 'The' Ukraine ) ..

In an era when UA is pushing it's own language - the continued use of the RU transliterated version is either ignorant or making a point...



Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Manny on November 13, 2017, 06:10:18 AM
Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv Kiev as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

Most people more readily recognise Kiev.

Where is the evidence for "most Ukrainians" anyway? This from a bloke who thinks Crimea and Donbass are still in Ukraine.  :whist11:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Steveboy on November 13, 2017, 07:05:10 AM


Not helpful for those VISA nationals seeking to transit to from / Russia :(


All information about the visa regime in Russia you can find here. In this country, laws change every week. Lol. Be careful)))



Welcome!

Except I was talking about Belarus - not Russia )) 

As for Visa rules changing all the time - oh, how I know .....   Got caught by the temporary - must register in Russia within 24 hours - during the Confederation Cup 2017!
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As for Visa rules changing all the time - oh, how I know .....   Got caught by the temporary - must register in Russia within 24 hours - during the Confederation Cup 2017!

But you haven't been caught yet working kind of on a business visa... :ROFL:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Confederate on November 13, 2017, 08:14:38 AM
Not a single one of my hundreds of Ukrainian friends and family (from all over the center/centre, north, south and east) could give a toss how you spell Kiev/Kyiv.
We don't need spelling nazis here do we?? I don't care that North Americans can't spell english words either   :popcorn:

As an American I spell it Kiev because most in the West recognize it that way. I’m not trying to take sides between Russia and Ukraine. However if it irritates Noby to write Kiev then I must be doing it right.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Ste on November 13, 2017, 09:34:18 AM
No-one in Dublin calls it Baile Átha Cliath either!


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Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Steveboy on November 13, 2017, 11:24:08 AM
Not a single one of my hundreds of Ukrainian friends and family (from all over the center/centre, north, south and east) could give a toss how you spell Kiev/Kyiv.
We don't need spelling nazis here do we?? I don't care that North Americans can't spell english words either   :popcorn:

As an American I spell it Kiev because most in the West recognize it that way. I’m not trying to take sides between Russia and Ukraine. However if it irritates Noby to write Kiev then I must be doing it right.  :chuckle:

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :laugh:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 13, 2017, 02:00:50 PM

They make up tales about the tail they never got. If it’s anything like Kiev sex tourists can find themselves in trouble if they upset certain types.  :)

Well at least you spelt 'tail' correctly in the context of it's use .... horrible term

Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

We have sex tourists to Kyiv on here who return and experience no grief....

When were YOU last in the FSU ? ..... Clearly, like most subjects you post on - not recently ...   or was that your 'nephew'  :chuckle:

Give him enough rope and he’ll hang himself.

Sentence 1 - argumentative, childish pettiness.

Sentence 2 - some Moby’s-world weirdness and pedantic behaviour

Sentence 3 - an unsubstantiated bizarre attack on someone he doesn’t like

Sentence 4 - another personal attack on a fellow member

This sums up the blokes general contribution and he wonders why he needs an adult to proof read his posts before we sadly have to digest it.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: andrewfi on November 13, 2017, 05:07:41 PM
Rosco, just think of the stuff that doesn't get through?

You're seeing Moby at his best, after the worst of his bile has been deleted before publication.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 13, 2017, 05:50:03 PM

Now, if we can just get you to spell Kyiv as most Ukrainians would prefer it ...

Most people more readily recognise Kiev.

Most people used to call Ukraine 'the' Ukraine....   did that make 'em 'right' ?

Where is the evidence for "most Ukrainians" anyway? This from a bloke who thinks Crimea and Donbass are still in Ukraine.  :whist11:

Crimea: 100:11, 13:1 UN Gen and Sec Council votes ... ?

Unlike you - I HAVE been to the places you mentioned above ..  Plenty of Donbas still under Kyiv control ..
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 14, 2017, 01:24:49 AM
Rosco, just think of the stuff that doesn't get through?

You're seeing Moby at his best, after the worst of his bile has been deleted before publication.

I wonder if the moderators could edit a collage of stupidity, as a Xmas special? We could call it Moby’s bloopers.

Come on Manny - I bet there’s some howlers in there!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Markje on November 14, 2017, 06:02:17 AM
Crimea: 100:11, 13:1 UN Gen and Sec Council votes ... ?
A sad day for democracy, it surely showed me who's in charge, it is certainly not the 'voters' of any democratic nation.

Apparently , a EU-Army is now being erected, Netherlands already signed off on it (by means of prime minister Mark Rutte) when the population has made it quite clear multiple times we do not want this.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: rosco on November 14, 2017, 08:16:35 AM
Crimea: 100:11, 13:1 UN Gen and Sec Council votes ... ?
A sad day for democracy, it surely showed me who's in charge, it is certainly not the 'voters' of any democratic nation.

Apparently , a EU-Army is now being erected, Netherlands already signed off on it (by means of prime minister Mark Rutte) when the population has made it quite clear multiple times we do not want this.

Do you think it’ll force the people to take to the streets or will the politicians simply get their way?
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Markje on November 14, 2017, 11:54:23 AM
Do you think it’ll force the people to take to the streets or will the politicians simply get their way?
Sadly, the latter. The fact was in a news-column on page 9 of a print-paper and non-existant on most mainstream media. I only knew about it because I also keep an eye on the rightwing online news media named 'geenstijl' (no morale).
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Confederate on November 14, 2017, 12:32:10 PM
Do you think it’ll force the people to take to the streets or will the politicians simply get their way?
Sadly, the latter. The fact was in a news-column on page 9 of a print-paper and non-existant on most mainstream media. I only knew about it because I also keep an eye on the rightwing online news media named 'geenstijl' (no morale).

Is “No Morale” more honest?
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Markje on November 14, 2017, 01:20:37 PM
Do you think it’ll force the people to take to the streets or will the politicians simply get their way?
Sadly, the latter. The fact was in a news-column on page 9 of a print-paper and non-existant on most mainstream media. I only knew about it because I also keep an eye on the rightwing online news media named 'geenstijl' (no morale).

Is “No Morale” more honest?
They are usually open to alternative viewpoints as long as they are right-wing by nature.

I trust them a little bit more than the rest of the media.
Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: msmoby on November 15, 2017, 02:12:47 AM


Come on Manny - I bet there’s some howlers in there!  :chuckle:

Much more revealing are the 'bloopers' I point out but the kind mods need to protect you from!)

Title: Re: Belarus Becoming Visa Free For Many
Post by: Manny on November 16, 2017, 03:02:15 AM
Rosco, just think of the stuff that doesn't get through?

You're seeing Moby at his best, after the worst of his bile has been deleted before publication.

I wonder if the moderators could edit a collage of stupidity, as a Xmas special? We could call it Moby’s bloopers.

Come on Manny - I bet there’s some howlers in there!  :chuckle:


 :chuckle: