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Title: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on February 09, 2015, 10:58:17 AM
I'm wondering if I can tap into the knowledge from those who are up to speed with the spouse visa extension situation?

We were married in June 2012 but didn't have enough time to to apply for a spouse visa prior to the changes in July 2012. Apart from the financial changes which thankfully haven't affected us, we've been forced to wait 5 years before Mrs Rosco can apply for permanent residency. My wife's initial spouse visa runs out half way through in October this year and I'm starting to find out what needs to be done to extend it.

Can anyone be kind enough to confirm exactly what's required? I've had a quick squint and it may be that we need to complete the application to extend stay in the UK as a partner: form FLR(M).

Any expansion on this will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 09, 2015, 11:18:11 AM
Yes, same rules as before, just same again really, btw, fees going up in April, ILR from 900 or so to 1400 for example so better check that..


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Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Dogsoldier on February 09, 2015, 12:09:20 PM
Yes, you have to complete form FLR(M) and have all the documentary evidence to show you are in a subsisting relationship.
Current fee for flr is £601 for a postal application. Premium will be another £400.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Dogsoldier on February 09, 2015, 12:10:51 PM
Yes, same rules as before, just same again really, btw, fees going up in April, ILR from 900 or so to 1400 for example so better check that..


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ILR is already £1000+, Ste.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on February 10, 2015, 02:00:37 AM
Thanks guys.

I'm assuming that this application will take us through the five year probation period then we've got another set of fee's for the ILR application and final stop of the cash cow?
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2015, 02:27:22 AM
Thanks guys.

I'm assuming that this application will take us through the five year probation period then we've got another set of fee's for the ILR application and final stop of the cash cow?

Yep, though after ILR though there's another fee to naturalise but not needed as you can stay on ILR if you want.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 03:07:48 AM
I need more info (and will have it asap) so to make more detailed post, but at this moment my family is flabbergasted because of what happened... My SIL's brother married a UK citizen (she's Montenegrin by birth, but we can't have dual citizenship, most small countries don't allow it), they married here and he was issued a visa on that bases (i asked SIL to ask him which one exactly, so i can tell you), he traveled the other day and they kept him at the airport for hours and barely let him into UK (Heatrow) because, as he was told, he was supposed to enter the country with her?! (She was waiting for him at the airport, she had left Monte earlier because of work.) No one told them so, no one alerted them on such rules, at the UK Embassy here or anywhere else. Btw, no problems with law, both are accomplished with significant funds, visa fraud or whatsoever ruled out, the guy has his own building and a beach, among else (and we weren't really happy he's relocating, but he fell in love.) We are all very upset :( What kind of visa is that? How could that happen?
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2015, 03:16:24 AM
Sounds like he's on EEA Family Permit, did they get together in another EU State?


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Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 03:19:40 AM
Sounds like he's on EEA Family Permit, did they get together in another EU State?


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Thanks for replying, Ste! They married in Monte, but we are not a member yet, only a candidate :( I feel so sorry, you know how our peeps are wired, everyone was talking him against relocating (not me, i want him to be happy - and obviously he needs her to be happy), SIL and their mom cried their eyes out and me too, i am very upset :(
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2015, 03:25:56 AM
Doesn't sound like EEA FP then, think we need to know what the visa actually.


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Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: andrewfi on February 10, 2015, 05:53:54 AM
No need to be upset. They let him in so, whatever the problem, there is no concern about his right to be here or his ability to meet any visa imposed conditions. All that's needed is to sort out the mechanics of the situation for future reference. :)

Was he given any kind of written notification of what happened?

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/35394/can-a-thai-national-married-to-a-uk-citizen-enter-the-uk-freely

This is not about EU regulations per se but about EFTA which Montenegro joined in 2012 and the consequent easing of EU area access for Montenegrins. The link above describes how this affects visa issues on a personal level and how the UK is not implementing the EU side of things fully and how there has been a recent case in January 2015 which has had an effect upon the situation (and not in a positive fashion).

It looks like your rello will need to travel with his wife from now on. Best if he got himself a more appropriate visa from the UK rather than relying upon the EFTA privileges.

Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 06:24:19 AM
No need to be upset. They let him in so, whatever the problem, there is no concern about his right to be here or his ability to meet any visa imposed conditions. All that's needed is to sort out the mechanics of the situation for future reference. :)

Was he given any kind of written notification of what happened?

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/35394/can-a-thai-national-married-to-a-uk-citizen-enter-the-uk-freely

This is not about EU regulations per se but about EFTA which Montenegro joined in 2012 and the consequent easing of EU area access for Montenegrins. The link above describes how this affects visa issues on a personal level and how the UK is not implementing the EU side of things fully and how there has been a recent case in January 2015 which has had an effect upon the situation (and not in a positive fashion).

It looks like your rello will need to travel with his wife from now on. Best if he got himself a more appropriate visa from the UK rather than relying upon the EFTA privileges.

Thank you, Andrew! Aghh, male part of the family says it's not biggie, but we... Our little boy (30+ y old ;)) left to the big world and he had problems immediately, you know how moms, sisters and cousins are  :(
I will ask if they gave him anything in written, and yes, next time they have to enter UK together! You know everything! ;D
Thanks once again!
( She was at the airport, waiting for him, they called her via... is reley the word? Anyway, she was present at the interview afterwards. OF COURSE, my SIL was tracking the fight online and was even telling her not to hurry and to leave her London home much later, than she did... Good that she didn't listen  (:) )
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2015, 06:24:45 AM
No need to be upset. They let him in so, whatever the problem, there is no concern about his right to be here or his ability to meet any visa imposed conditions. All that's needed is to sort out the mechanics of the situation for future reference. :)

Was he given any kind of written notification of what happened?

http://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/35394/can-a-thai-national-married-to-a-uk-citizen-enter-the-uk-freely

This is not about EU regulations per se but about EFTA which Montenegro joined in 2012 and the consequent easing of EU area access for Montenegrins. The link above describes how this affects visa issues on a personal level and how the UK is not implementing the EU side of things fully and how there has been a recent case in January 2015 which has had an effect upon the situation (and not in a positive fashion).

It looks like your rello will need to travel with his wife from now on. Best if he got himself a more appropriate visa from the UK rather than relying upon the EFTA privileges.

As Montenegro is not EU/Schengen I'm sure this is a straightforward UK immigration issue nothing to do with EU or EFTA. With a certain amount of reading between the lines until we know what the visa endorsement is I'm pretty sure it's a straightforward UK spouse visa, in which case I can't why the Heathrow IO made an issue. With a spouse visa the spouse can enter with or after the sponsor - seems like another knobhead IO issue....

Need to see the visa endorsement to be sure though.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 06:40:59 AM
Thanks guys! I am passing info as you are posting, sending to my SIL and she's forwarding to them, if they haven't found an immediate solution, i am sure they'll ask (not sure our Embassy in UK will be of much help, usually Embassy stuff is Ambassador + one more person, if the latter worked here at the Ministry of foreign in the Consular department, then great, if not...  then not really. AND since a friend returned from London, i am not sure who of ours is there at the moment.)
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on February 10, 2015, 07:58:16 AM
(Av impression)

"Can the moderator pleased split this into another topic?"  :innocent:
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: andrewfi on February 10, 2015, 09:34:37 AM
Ste, I don't know for sure what kind of travel docs this bloke had BUT I do know that as a result of joining EFTA Montenegro gained access to the EEA and thus EU. One of the effects was that under a normal reading of the EU law people from Montenegro SHOULD be allowed access to the UK.

However, Britain has not implemented the law and thus it is necessary for a Montenegin married to a Briton to travel with their spouse. The link was, in part a reference to the legal case earlier this year that cemented the issue because it seems that the Border Agency were letting folks in this situation (not just Montenegrins) to come and go.

So, from the outside the effects we can see (the Volshe told us about) can be explained very easily by this EFTA/EEA issue and its lack of application in the UK.

This is a similar case to that of moby and his poor wife. He got her in on the basis of EU citizenship, no UK visa issued, but right now she'd have to travel with him in order to access the UK. (Assuming they were still together and she had not regularised her documentation - of course)
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 10:23:19 AM
(Av impression)

"Can the moderator pleased split this into another topic?"  :innocent:

Yes!  ;D

Where's Avvy? Avvy, if you are reading this, just wave (ie. post one-liner ;)) , we miss you  :(
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2015, 01:32:14 PM
Ste, I don't know for sure what kind of travel docs this bloke had BUT I do know that as a result of joining EFTA Montenegro gained access to the EEA and thus EU. One of the effects was that under a normal reading of the EU law people from Montenegro SHOULD be allowed access to the UK.

However, Britain has not implemented the law and thus it is necessary for a Montenegin married to a Briton to travel with their spouse. The link was, in part a reference to the legal case earlier this year that cemented the issue because it seems that the Border Agency were letting folks in this situation (not just Montenegrins) to come and go.

So, from the outside the effects we can see (the Volshe told us about) can be explained very easily by this EFTA/EEA issue and its lack of application in the UK.

This is a similar case to that of moby and his poor wife. He got her in on the basis of EU citizenship, no UK visa issued, but right now she'd have to travel with him in order to access the UK. (Assuming they were still together and she had not regularised her documentation - of course)

Volshe's SIL is on a UK spouse visa, EU immigration rules don't apply and as UK is not a Schengen state a visa (visit or LTR) is required by citizens of Montenegro.

The only situation where they would apply is where an EU citizen was exercising a treaty right upon which the Family member's right derive, per Moby. Monte is not EU but Montenegrins are non-visa nationals in the Schengen zone (plus a few other EU states), but not UK/Ireland.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Volshe on February 10, 2015, 01:53:05 PM
Ste, I don't know for sure what kind of travel docs this bloke had BUT I do know that as a result of joining EFTA Montenegro gained access to the EEA and thus EU. One of the effects was that under a normal reading of the EU law people from Montenegro SHOULD be allowed access to the UK.

However, Britain has not implemented the law and thus it is necessary for a Montenegin married to a Briton to travel with their spouse. The link was, in part a reference to the legal case earlier this year that cemented the issue because it seems that the Border Agency were letting folks in this situation (not just Montenegrins) to come and go.

So, from the outside the effects we can see (the Volshe told us about) can be explained very easily by this EFTA/EEA issue and its lack of application in the UK.

This is a similar case to that of moby and his poor wife. He got her in on the basis of EU citizenship, no UK visa issued, but right now she'd have to travel with him in order to access the UK. (Assuming they were still together and she had not regularised her documentation - of course)

Volshe's SIL is on a UK spouse visa, EU immigration rules don't apply and as UK is not a Schengen state a visa (visit or LTR) is required by citizens of Montenegro.

The only situation where they would apply is where an EU citizen was exercising a treaty right upon which the Family member's right derive, per Moby. Monte is not EU but Montenegrins are non-visa nationals in the Schengen zone (plus a few other EU states), but not UK/Ireland.

Yes, it's so... The last time i needed to travel to London for work, i simply gave up and gave a proxy to a colleague, i couldn't possibly be bothered with all of it again  :(

Btw, sorry for the confusion, per our tradition, my SIL lives in the same building here, it's my SIL's brother who got married to the girl who is UK citizen ... with our tribal connections it does get tad complicated at times to remember who is who lol!  ;D
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on August 26, 2015, 09:21:13 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on August 26, 2015, 09:44:13 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!

I actually think it's fair enough, cheaper than CSI.

Good news is that's it - not needed for ILR....
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Dogsoldier on August 26, 2015, 01:19:50 PM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!
:thumbsup:
Another hurdle overcome....
Good on you.
Yes, the NHS charge is fairly new. I thought it was a little less? Anyway, it's out of the way, just another few years for ILR and then citizenship.........
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: sparky114 on August 26, 2015, 09:37:13 PM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!

Congratulations Ross  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: msmoby on August 27, 2015, 05:35:59 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge)

Are they 'backdating' NHS charges ?
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on August 27, 2015, 05:37:49 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge)

Are they 'backdating' NHS charges ?

Oddly enough you don't pay it on a Fiancee visa....
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: msmoby on August 27, 2015, 05:38:57 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge)

Are they 'backdating' NHS charges ?

Oddly enough you don't pay it on a Fiancee visa....
They will probably 'get you',  later

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Has Nat had to pay this... I'm sorry I don't know if she acquired UK citizenship or 'only' has FT residency. I am interested in the status of those here on EU regs
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on August 27, 2015, 06:01:17 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.



https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-introduces-health-surcharge)

Are they 'backdating' NHS charges ?

Oddly enough you don't pay it on a Fiancee visa....
They will probably 'get you',  later

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Has Nat had to pay this... I'm sorry I don't know if she acquired UK citizenship or 'only' has FT residency. I am interested in the status of those here on EU regs

Became a BC in December last year, cost in visas about £5k altogether I reckon but we did it via a tortuous route as we didn't want to marry basically.

I'm a regular on immigration boards still and it's interesting to see what's happening now;

1. Lot's of checking now with HMRC to see if tax records match claimed earning - especially for those on PBS visas.

2. Tightening up of Surinder Singh route via EU, i.e. hopping to Ireland for a few months and re-entering UK as EEA citizens with no fees and no financial test.

3. Adult Dependant Visa almost impossible now, and costs £2k!!
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on August 28, 2015, 03:02:26 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!
:thumbsup:
Another hurdle overcome....
Good on you.
Yes, the NHS charge is fairly new. I thought it was a little less? Anyway, it's out of the way, just another few years for ILR and then citizenship.........

Thanks mate.

The fee is £200 per year but obviously based on the 2.5 year visa extension. The justification for charging a spouse who already contributes towards the NHS, is that they've only just started to contribute. The flip side is that they've only just started to possibly use it!!

Just another stealth tax but I see the point if we have masses of immigrants not contributing yet soaking up the NHS resources.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Ste on August 28, 2015, 03:56:55 AM
My wife applied for her spouse visa extension this week and of course, was successful in her application.

Due to the nature of her work (and mine), we paid the premium service fee for the one day turnaround. This is currently circa £1000. To my surprise, we were also hit with an NHS surcharge fee of £500.

No point in debating but its pretty shite charging a person an NHS surcharge when they've been paying quite a lot of tax and national insurance over the last 2.5 years.....never mind my contributions.

So, we've navigated the next hurdle and happily await the ILR and citizenship challenge, which should make life much easier.

tip - If you're a newbie and think paying for sushi or a wee shopping trip is expensive...............this gig isn't for you!
:thumbsup:
Another hurdle overcome....
Good on you.
Yes, the NHS charge is fairly new. I thought it was a little less? Anyway, it's out of the way, just another few years for ILR and then citizenship.........

Thanks mate.

The fee is £200 per year but obviously based on the 2.5 year visa extension. The justification for charging a spouse who already contributes towards the NHS, is that they've only just started to contribute. The flip side is that they've only just started to possibly use it!!

Just another stealth tax but I see the point if we have masses of immigrants not contributing yet soaking up the NHS resources.

All immigrants pay the surcharge, students, spouses, PBS migrants, only visitors and fiancee don't pay, and those under EEA rules, but even they generally have to have CSI instead. Those caught halfway of course get a bum deal but there ya go!



 
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on March 30, 2018, 08:27:46 AM
Last week we submitted the wife's application for ILR, which should be the final hurdle out-with citizenship/passport.

A bargain at £2,297 at the current rates plus all the relevant documentation. I understand 12 weeks is the norm with some reporting 6 but it is what it is. I'm needing to work in a number of European countries in the coming months so thankfully they were happy for me to submit a photocopy of each page of my passport.

It's another landmark reached and we can almost see the light at the ned of the tunnel. Just thought it was worth reporting because not everything appreciates the afterwork once you meet Miss Rightska.

Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: msmoby on March 30, 2018, 10:18:32 AM


This is a similar case to that of moby and his poor   [moby coment :sick0012:] wife. He got her in on the basis of EU citizenship, no UK visa issued, but right now she'd have to travel with him in order to access the UK. (Assuming they were still together and she had not regularised her documentation - of course)

1/ There was never any thing irregular with her or my step-son's  documentation - then or now

2/ I didn't LIVE in the UK - I lived and worked in a third EU nation - Cyprus - and applied using my IRISH citizenship.

Lest there be any doubt - the Irish passport was acquired BEFORE the EU Directive that facilitated their being allowed into the UK as my dependants .

You'll be pleased to know that IF we wanted to - SC and I could go this route again - following a landmark High Court ruling in Belfast - whereby a lass from (London) Derry was allowed to bring in her US husband  - despite the Brits claiming she was 'British' by birth ...



Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: msmoby on March 30, 2018, 10:20:57 AM
Last week we submitted the wife's application for ILR, which should be the final hurdle out-with citizenship/passport.

A bargain at £2,297 at the current rates plus all the relevant documentation. I understand 12 weeks is the norm with some reporting 6 but it is what it is. I'm needing to work in a number of European countries in the coming months so thankfully they were happy for me to submit a photocopy of each page of my passport.

It's another landmark reached and we can almost see the light at the ned of the tunnel. Just thought it was worth reporting because not everything appreciates the afterwork once you meet Miss Rightska.

Well done, to you both ...  Those on the EU route that have Permanent Residency will have to re-apply for the new UK equiv  - if we ever 'Brexit' ....
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Wiz on March 31, 2018, 01:34:22 AM
Last week we submitted the wife's application for ILR, which should be the final hurdle out-with citizenship/passport.

A bargain at £2,297 at the current rates plus all the relevant documentation. I understand 12 weeks is the norm with some reporting 6 but it is what it is. I'm needing to work in a number of European countries in the coming months so thankfully they were happy for me to submit a photocopy of each page of my passport.

It's another landmark reached and we can almost see the light at the ned of the tunnel. Just thought it was worth reporting because not everything appreciates the afterwork once you meet Miss Rightska.

Well done Rosco and hope the end is soon.

Are you keeping a list of expenses ? ........ Would be useful to know how much costs, at the end,  this kind of adventure.

 tiphat
 
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: andrewfi on March 31, 2018, 09:28:24 AM
The amount of the 'surcharge' is tiny but is obviously amortised across all the people in the group of residents from outside the UK (or is it EU?)

Given that as a non-permanent inhabitant of these beautiful isles there's no way to be able to know that a non-permanent resident is actually going to be around to pay into the system, or to continue to do so in the future, I can understand this charge. In another context, one that you were not personally involved in, you'd probably be saying that temporary migrants SHOULD pay a contribution to the NHS - I know that I would!
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Confederate on March 31, 2018, 09:37:06 AM
Last week we submitted the wife's application for ILR, which should be the final hurdle out-with citizenship/passport.

A bargain at £2,297 at the current rates plus all the relevant documentation. I understand 12 weeks is the norm with some reporting 6 but it is what it is. I'm needing to work in a number of European countries in the coming months so thankfully they were happy for me to submit a photocopy of each page of my passport.

It's another landmark reached and we can almost see the light at the ned of the tunnel. Just thought it was worth reporting because not everything appreciates the afterwork once you meet Miss Rightska.

Well done Rosco and hope the end is soon.

Are you keeping a list of expenses ? ........ Would be useful to know how much costs, at the end,  this kind of adventure.

 tiphat

This adventure is apparently not for those without steely resolve as well as ample financial assets.

Well done Rosco and Mrs. Rosco and congratulations.  tiphat
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on April 01, 2018, 07:48:52 AM
The amount of the 'surcharge' is tiny but is obviously amortised across all the people in the group of residents from outside the UK (or is it EU?)

Given that as a non-permanent inhabitant of these beautiful isles there's no way to be able to know that a non-permanent resident is actually going to be around to pay into the system, or to continue to do so in the future, I can understand this charge. In another context, one that you were not personally involved in, you'd probably be saying that temporary migrants SHOULD pay a contribution to the NHS - I know that I would!

I think my feathers get ruffled, because I get a sense of injustice and a lack of consistency. This may of course just be perception. Combined we pay quite a lot of tax back into the system & wifey has passed English tests & the like to prove our relationship is genuine and meeting the requirements.

I’ve yet to work out how we have droves of foreigners living in the U.K. with maroon passports, on little or no income, can’t speak a word of English and dozens of sprogs which would significantly raise the minimum income requirements.

I accept that this is part of the process and both understand why & agree that these rules are needed. It just leaves me scratching my head, when pondering how some other communities get round it.

Still......we’re almost there and look forward to leaving the red tape behind us.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on April 01, 2018, 07:49:42 AM
Last week we submitted the wife's application for ILR, which should be the final hurdle out-with citizenship/passport.

A bargain at £2,297 at the current rates plus all the relevant documentation. I understand 12 weeks is the norm with some reporting 6 but it is what it is. I'm needing to work in a number of European countries in the coming months so thankfully they were happy for me to submit a photocopy of each page of my passport.

It's another landmark reached and we can almost see the light at the ned of the tunnel. Just thought it was worth reporting because not everything appreciates the afterwork once you meet Miss Rightska.

Well done Rosco and hope the end is soon.

Are you keeping a list of expenses ? ........ Would be useful to know how much costs, at the end,  this kind of adventure.

 tiphat

This adventure is apparently not for those without steely resolve as well as ample financial assets.

Well done Rosco and Mrs. Rosco and congratulations.  tiphat

Thanks mate.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: andrewfi on April 01, 2018, 03:35:59 PM
Other places get around the problem by making people pay for their treatment. :)

Under the British system your wife, and others in the same situation, still get free treatment when needed. Seems like a good deal to me.

I think that the amount charged suggests that the thinking behind the charge is not to recoup all the possible costs from people in your wife's situation but rather to make the process of getting such treatment a little more 'sticky'. By that I mean it serves as a barrier, if only a small one, to people wanting to bilk the generous British system. It is a small deterrent but one that would have no effect on you or your wife.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: msmoby on April 02, 2018, 03:41:52 AM

I think that the amount charged suggests that the thinking behind the charge is not to recoup all the possible costs from people in your wife's situation but rather to make the process of getting such treatment a little more 'sticky'. By that I mean it serves as a barrier, if only a small one, to people wanting to bilk the generous British system. It is a small deterrent but one that would have no effect on you or your wife.

I agree - I base that on my 'poor wife' and step-son being excluded from having had to pay the 'surcharge' as non EU/EEA dependants of an EU citizen exercising their treaty rights


https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/who-needs-pay (https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application/who-needs-pay)




Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Steveboy on April 10, 2018, 12:32:54 PM
The amount of the 'surcharge' is tiny but is obviously amortised across all the people in the group of residents from outside the UK (or is it EU?)

Given that as a non-permanent inhabitant of these beautiful isles there's no way to be able to know that a non-permanent resident is actually going to be around to pay into the system, or to continue to do so in the future, I can understand this charge. In another context, one that you were not personally involved in, you'd probably be saying that temporary migrants SHOULD pay a contribution to the NHS - I know that I would!

I think my feathers get ruffled, because I get a sense of injustice and a lack of consistency. This may of course just be perception. Combined we pay quite a lot of tax back into the system & wifey has passed English tests & the like to prove our relationship is genuine and meeting the requirements.

I’ve yet to work out how we have droves of foreigners living in the U.K. with maroon passports, on little or no income, can’t speak a word of English and dozens of sprogs which would significantly raise the minimum income requirements.

I accept that this is part of the process and both understand why & agree that these rules are needed. It just leaves me scratching my head, when pondering how some other communities get round it.

Still......we’re almost there and look forward to leaving the red tape behind us.


how some other communities get round it.

You mean half of London? Human rights, liberal lawyers the usual stuff..

Its just the same for the working class, you pay all your taxes all your life while the other lot pay nothing...

Title: ILR granted
Post by: rosco on June 07, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)
Title: Re: ILR granted
Post by: Jerash on June 07, 2018, 04:04:14 PM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)

Congratulations!  Wish you happiness!
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: d672 on June 07, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
Great news Rosco, congrats!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: leslied on June 07, 2018, 04:28:04 PM
Congratulations Rosco!

The journey takes much longer nowadays, only took us 4 years to passport.
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: AvHdB on June 07, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
Well done!

May all the coming anniversary's be as joyful.
Title: Re: ILR granted
Post by: Confederate on June 07, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)

Congratulations Rosco!

Well done and many happy years to come!  tiphat
Title: Re: ILR granted
Post by: Markje on June 08, 2018, 02:19:43 AM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)

Next step, get the nationality , which comes with a pretty passport and voting rights :)
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: andrewfi on June 08, 2018, 03:00:00 AM
A weight off the mind, good to hear!
Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: Dogsoldier on June 08, 2018, 03:22:32 AM
Excellent news. Congratulations all around. Major headache out of the way now.


Title: Re: UK spouse visa extension, post July 2012
Post by: rosco on June 11, 2018, 04:43:28 AM
Thank you all and yes, another major headache out the way!!  :)
Title: Re: ILR granted
Post by: Manny on June 13, 2018, 01:55:19 PM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)

Well played, good to hear.  :thumbsup:

Passport is another grand or so IIRC.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: ILR granted
Post by: rosco on June 14, 2018, 08:16:04 AM
After 6 years of marriage, Mrs Rosco received her indefinite leave to remain in the UK today. We’re both massively relieved and so happy to be pretty much there. I felt so sorry for her over the last month or so as we waited. The current climate made her feel very insecure and this has finally put it to bed.

The best anniversary present ever with it being issued on the day to our 7th year and now just the passport to come.

Happy days!  :)

Well played, good to hear.  :thumbsup:

Passport is another grand or so IIRC.  :chuckle:

A drop in the ocean in the grand scheme of things!!  :)