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Title: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 11, 2019, 04:01:19 AM
Breaking News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47891737 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47891737)

That'll save having to pay for a Policeman on duty 24/ 7 - in case he sneaked out ..

"Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange has been arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Mr Assange took refuge in the embassy seven years ago to avoid extradition to Sweden over a sexual assault case that has since been dropped.

The Met Police said he was arrested for failing to surrender to the court.

Ecuador's president Lenin Moreno said it withdrew Mr Assange's asylum after his repeated violations to international conventions."


What now, I wonder ?  An arrest warrant from the USA ? The Swedes ..or will he be released ?

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 11, 2019, 11:37:55 AM
Julian Assange arrested inside the Ecuador Embassy
After Ecuador tears up his asylum deal

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfi1qCx3QnFkGtvZ2OHJkfs2osK-rHey0NcaEmdc-c4CoBuosx)

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy in London where he has spent the last seven years. That's after Ecuador's president Moreno withdrew asylum.

That's only a day after WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief Kristinn Hrafnsson claimed that an extensive spying operation was conducted against Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy. During an explosive media conference Hrafnsson alleged that the operation was designed to get Assange extradited.

'Collateral Murder': 10 years on from infamous US airstrike


Read More here: Julian Assange arrested inside the Ecuador Embassy (https://www.rt.com/news/456212-julian-assange-embassy-eviction/)
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: yankee on April 11, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
about time
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on April 11, 2019, 12:00:00 PM
Assange charges could unsettle liberals, conservatives — and Trump
Many liberals and civil rights activists have defended Assange as a journalist
entitled to First Amendment protections. Conservatives have celebrated him
for exposing Hillary Clinton’s emails in 2016. And President Donald Trump,
who declared his “love” for Assange’s website during the 2016 contest, may
have new concerns about whether the focus on Assange has a connection
to special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.

Read all about it here
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/16/julian-assange-charges-wikileaks-997122
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on April 11, 2019, 12:03:11 PM
Assange may risk torture in United States, his lawyer says


I don't know if this is what the author of the story was referring to.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ecuador-assange-lawyer-spain/assange-may-risk-torture-in-united-states-his-lawyer-says-idUSKCN1RN2CJ
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on April 11, 2019, 12:05:34 PM
Did you ever have a house guest that didn't know he had smelly
feet and didn't want to leave?

The seven-year itch: Assange's awkward stay in the embassy
The WikiLeaks founder’s visit became uncomfortable for both him and his hosts
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/11/how-ecuador-lost-patience-with-houseguest-julian-assange
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on April 11, 2019, 12:10:36 PM
NOTE: Moby is running to this thread as quick as his feet can take him
since, the magic words Brexit are in it.

I am setting the over under at 7*


Pamela Anderson flips out over Julian Assange arrest
“How could you UK. ? Of course – you are America’s bitch and you need a diversion
from your idiotic Brexit bulls–t.”

https://pagesix.com/2019/04/11/pamela-anderson-flips-out-over-julian-assange-arrest/?_ga=2.110593286.28225014.1554910023-1672167919.1554054498

(https://www.babepedia.com/pics/Pamela%20Anderson.jpg)


* 7 is the over/under
The amount of totally off topic Brexit posts by Moby
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 11, 2019, 12:21:54 PM
Beel

I started  the thread on Assange.. ))

I thought it best not to say anything about the 'B' word...    :coffeeread:

A great day for the UK in two ways..

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Markje on April 11, 2019, 01:06:14 PM
about time
for? being expelled? being arrested?

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 11, 2019, 01:36:38 PM
Did you ever have a house guest that didn't know he had smelly
feet and didn't want to leave?

The seven-year itch: Assange's awkward stay in the embassy
The WikiLeaks founder’s visit became uncomfortable for both him and his hosts
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/11/how-ecuador-lost-patience-with-houseguest-julian-assange

Did President Moreno, by any chance, revoked his asylum status .....after Wikileaks has posted the Panama Papers, where his brother was implicated........ now that he become President?

[Trolling removed]
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: yankee on April 11, 2019, 02:04:33 PM
about time
for? being expelled? being arrested?

Yes
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: AvHdB on April 11, 2019, 08:14:24 PM
J. Assange lost the support of the Ecuadorian government after there was a democratic change in leadership. What is somewhat odd is the silence of Australia.

My guess he will be extridiated to the United States for trial. The central question will be can he prove he is a journalist or is an anarchist revealing secrets of the United States. Both sides have powerful forces and it will be an interesting court and PR battle.

Personally I am of the opinion that Wiki-Leaks while endangering assets and sources abroad has done a valuable service to public openness and discourse.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: redroo on April 11, 2019, 11:35:46 PM
Oh don't worry, it's big news in Australia.

Funny how it happened not long after the Ecuadorian President had some embarrassing questions to answer.  Seems like he might have thought Wikileaks was involved.

I stand on the side of freedom of information, and have been happy to know (but shocked by) the degree of surveillance we law abiding citizens are subjected to.

Australia, like the UK, are part of the "5 eyes", and as such are easily "blackmailed" by the US Government with the threat of withholding information and co-operation. I suspect the UK Government will allow his extradition, and the Australian Government not seek to intervene on behalf of it's citizen.  Ecuador will soon announce a massive US Aid package  :rouble-smile:  :whist11:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 12, 2019, 01:34:31 AM
Yes, unless the extradition was a foregone conclusion Britain would not have done this.

Very nice timing though. Just a few days ago the rumours were swirling that this was going to happen then the Ecuadorian government got in their hind legs to say that it was not, that everything was fine. Journalists who had been staking out the embassy all went home and then down swoops the polis with only RT there to see it.

Given that, for months, there have been journos or at least stringers, staking out the embassy, one wonders whether a quiet word was had with various media outlets and agencies that now might be a good time for their people to have a week off?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 12, 2019, 04:25:20 AM
Oh don't worry, it's big news in Australia.

Funny how it happened not long after the Ecuadorian President had some embarrassing questions to answer. Seems like he might have thought Wikileaks was involved.

The US admin was after J. Assange, since the US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks in 2010 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cable-leak-diplomacy-crisis)

I understand it was a long time planning operation, by the US. Moreno visited the USA before he was elected President. The Previous one was not friendly with the USA.

Any how watch this video.......

Donald Trump talking about WikiLeaks
during 2016 presidential campaign & Now ;D



I stand on the side of freedom of information, and have been happy to know (but shocked by) the degree of surveillance we law abiding citizens are subjected to.

Australia, like the UK, are part of the "5 eyes", and as such are easily "blackmailed" by the US Government with the threat of withholding information and co-operation. I suspect the UK Government will allow his extradition, and the Australian Government not seek to intervene on behalf of it's citizen.  Ecuador will soon announce a massive US Aid package :rouble-smile:  :whist11:

While I agree with your comments, I was not surprised with the revelations made by Edward Snowden ...... following the previous info published about the erosion of privacy in the US by their administration.

In actual fact, I read somewhere that it was J. Assange who advised Edward Snowden to go via Moscow......... What I am surprised is why J. Assange did not followed his own advice, before going to the Ecuador Embassy and apply for Asylum?

Few days ago, there was a mention on RT that he was going to be removed from the Embassy.....RT left it's camera people to keep an eye.......and few days later by coincident J. Assange was removed from the Embassy. I noticed few minutes later... the BBC copied the video..........without any reference to RT Permission!

Additionally.... it's convenient that it happened during the latest Brexit episode......and be sure.... that the UK Government will take full advantage and use it for "diversion", as they normally all Governments do in such circumstances.

J. Assange finally he will be extradited to the USA. will be charged by various accusations and he will get a total of some 45 years in prison... basically a  "Death Sentence"

tiphat
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 12, 2019, 05:25:49 AM
Naughty Wiz

The BBC video CLEARLY showed the RUPTLY logo and would be ( rightly) suded if the video was cribbed without credit

WHY do you post such bollox ?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: redroo on April 12, 2019, 06:11:55 AM
Hi Wiz,

Yes, the US has been after Julian since around 2011.

He in fact had gone to Sweden partly to investigate moving there because of the greater protection to Journalists. He had after applied for a Russian visa, but before he could travel there Sweden issued the charges (that were later dropped), meaning he could not leave Britain. The sexual assault charges came after one Wikileaks "groupie" found out he had been sleeping with another at the same time. It was reported one stated because she had asked him to use a condom and he did not, therefore she had been sexually assaulted. He refused to travel to Sweden to answer the charges believing that it was just an excuse to extradite him to the US. He  then jumped bail and entered the Ecuador Embassy to claim sanctuary, and now 7 years later here we are.

Obviously he had worn out his welcome, not hard to understand in a small flat with someone who seems slightly eccentric. The new President had said many things, but nothing happened.......until.......he was embarrassed by questions and revelations he blamed on Wikileaks. He then claimed Julian had damaged security equipment, Julian claimed they were spying on him....

As Andrew says, this was setup beautifully. The Australian Prime Minister called an Election that very morning so the Australian press was also distracted. The Australian Government has already stated he will get the same assistance as any other citizen facing justice in a first world country......ie F/all. They will not defend him at all since they have just passed the most repressive internet security laws of any first western country.

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 12, 2019, 06:36:13 AM

Given that, for months, there have been journos or at least stringers, staking out the embassy, one wonders whether a quiet word was had with various media outlets and agencies that now might be a good time for their people to have a week off?

Given the bun feast to use RUPTLY's footage, we can safely put another afi 'theory' to bed ...
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 12, 2019, 07:06:00 AM
I was just watching the BBC early this morning and he’s being accused by the USA of breaking into a top secret Pentagon file and then releasing video of a US military helicopter firing on Iraqi civilians, among other things.

In regards to him having sex with a woman in Sweden but not using a condom per her request all I can reply is what a jerk! Especially if he was having sex with another gal at the same time...what a dummy.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: yankee on April 12, 2019, 09:06:34 AM

In regards to him having sex with a woman in Sweden but not using a condom per her request all I can reply is what a jerk! Especially if he was having sex with another gal at the same time...what a dummy.  :coffeeread:

jealous :thumbsup:??
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 12, 2019, 01:51:54 PM

In regards to him having sex with a woman in Sweden but not using a condom per her request all I can reply is what a jerk! Especially if he was having sex with another gal at the same time...what a dummy.  :coffeeread:

jealous :thumbsup:??

Not even remotely. You missed the point entirely!

Jealous of a weirdo who had to live in confinement because he’s a loser who didn’t respect a woman’s wishes?

[Trolling removed]
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 12, 2019, 03:10:55 PM
Hi Wiz,

Yes, the US has been after Julian since around 2011.

He in fact had gone to Sweden partly to investigate moving there because of the greater protection to Journalists. He had after applied for a Russian visa, but before he could travel there Sweden issued the charges (that were later dropped), meaning he could not leave Britain. The sexual assault charges came after one Wikileaks "groupie" found out he had been sleeping with another at the same time. It was reported one stated because she had asked him to use a condom and he did not, therefore she had been sexually assaulted. He refused to travel to Sweden to answer the charges believing that it was just an excuse to extradite him to the US. He  then jumped bail and entered the Ecuador Embassy to claim sanctuary, and now 7 years later here we are.

Obviously he had worn out his welcome, not hard to understand in a small flat with someone who seems slightly eccentric. The new President had said many things, but nothing happened.......until.......he was embarrassed by questions and revelations he blamed on Wikileaks. He then claimed Julian had damaged security equipment, Julian claimed they were spying on him....

As Andrew says, this was setup beautifully. The Australian Prime Minister called an Election that very morning so the Australian press was also distracted. The Australian Government has already stated he will get the same assistance as any other citizen facing justice in a first world country......ie F/all. They will not defend him at all since they have just passed the most repressive internet security laws of any first western country.

Hi Redroo

It is pretty obvious that the 5 Anglo Zionist sisters were forced by the US to plan and act together regarding the removal of Julian Assange from the Ecuador embassy, as Andrew also pointed out and their plan worked perfectly.

Of course it's no coincident that apart from RT (RUPTLY) no other Press people were around. As you say, "The Australian Prime Minister called an Election that very morning so the Australian press was also distracted". The British PM, Teresa May, early morning she went to Brussels for BREXIT talks, before the action by the Police. President Tramp  became Ga Ga and knows nothing about WikiLeaks. I expect the New Zealand and Canada were "Busy" and so on.

Result, (in my view) .....Europe's and slowly around the world....the Papers front pages were dominated by the news that WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was  facing extradition to the US after he was arrested in London, which ended a 7 year saga in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

Julian Assange will face in the US charges of computer hacking. The Washington Post's Paul Waldman (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/11/dont-celebrate-indictment-julian-assange/?utm_term=.542cbb088069) thinks anti-Assange liberals should take a pause before celebrating his arrest:

"The hypocrisy of Trump and his supporters doesn’t tell us much one way or the other about whether it’s a good thing that Assange was arrested. If prosecutors can prove the charge that he attempted to assist in the hacking of government systems, then he can be held accountable for that. But if what’s really at issue is WikiLeaks publishing classified information, we should be concerned about who the Trump administration will go after next."
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 12, 2019, 03:59:07 PM
In regards to him having sex with a woman in Sweden but not using a condom per her request all I can reply is what a jerk! Especially if he was having sex with another gal at the same time...what a dummy.  :coffeeread:

Her claims were never proven ........ because Julian Assange refused to visit Sweden as he knew the American's were after him and the Swedish will extradite him to the US.

On the other hand when she told him "No sex without Condom" why then she opened her legs and let him give her a good time?

I don't remember her claiming that he forced her!

Oh sorry after she had a good time... then she remember he also was servicing another woman. Blah blah. Any more excuses from the US hunters?  :chuckle:

Can anybody explain to us how WikiLeaks is still operating ... and how do they get the files from the whistleblowers?  ???

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Markje on April 12, 2019, 04:13:48 PM
about time
for? being expelled? being arrested?

Yes
Being expelled for inexcusable behaviour is to be expected. They did warn him umpteen times through media and also in person, to stop it or he'd be let go.

Being arrested? Nope, sorry i can't agree there.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 12, 2019, 10:41:12 PM
He took legal action against Ecuador last year because he didn't like their house rules. Last month Wikileaks released Ecuador's president emails, phone communications expense receipts, and photos of his family which has led to the president getting investigated for corruption.

It's safe to say Assange doesn't know how to be a good house guest, bit off the hand that fed him, and has worn out his welcome. He'll end up being somebody's prison bitch.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: redroo on April 13, 2019, 12:27:49 AM
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-you-can-be-certain-that-the-us-charge-against-assange-is-fraudulent-8eb0caa1c4f6?fbclid=IwAR025Opze6IfSCd_MFU6Iq9RsDuhm72jSdtLqxV7hy8VPVoieGYi-GOkNdA

How You Can Be Certain That The US Charge Against Assange Is Fraudulent

Caitlin Johnstone
Apr 11

Julian Assange sits in a jail cell today after being betrayed by the Ecuadorian government and his home country of Australia. A British judge named Michael Snow has found the WikiLeaks founder guilty of violating bail conditions, inserting himself into the annals of history by labeling Assange “a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interest.” So that tells you how much of a fair and impartial legal proceeding we can expect to see from the British judicial process on this matter.

But the real reason that Assange has been surrendered by the Ecuadorian government, imprisoned by the British government, and ignored by the Australian government is not directly related to any of those governments, but to that of the United States of America. An unsealed indictment from the Trump administration’s District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, accompanied by an extradition request, charges Assange with “conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for agreeing to break a password to a classified U.S. government computer” during Chelsea Manning’s 2010 leak of government documents exposing US war crimes.

This charge is premised on a fraudulent and manipulative distortion of reality, and you may be one hundred percent certain of it. Let me explain.

You can be absolutely certain that this charge is bogus because it isn’t based on any new information. The facts of the case have not changed, the information hasn’t changed, only the narrative has changed. In 2010 the United States opened a secret grand jury in Virginia to investigate whether Assange and WikiLeaks could be prosecuted for the publication of the Manning leaks, and then-Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration was conducting “an active, ongoing criminal investigation’’ into the matter. The Trump administration has not turned up any new evidence that the Obama administration was unable to find in this active, ongoing criminal investigation (US government surveillance has surely acquired some new tricks since 2010, but time travel isn’t one of them), and indeed it does not claim to have turned up any new evidence.


“There’s a huge myth being misreported about today’s indictment of Assange,” journalist Glenn Greenwald tweeted today. “The claim that Assange tried to help Manning circumvent a password to cover her tracks isn’t new. The Obama DOJ knew about it since 2011, but chose not to prosecute him. Story on this soon.”

“Holder chose not to prosecute Assange based on the same info Trump DOJ cited,” Greenwald added.

“The weakness of the US charge against Assange is shocking,” tweeted NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. “The allegation he tried (and failed?) to help crack a password during their world-famous reporting has been public for nearly a decade: it is the count Obama’s DOJ refused to charge, saying it endangered journalism.”

This is all information that the Obama administration had access to (journalist Tim Shorrock observed that the alleged 2010 correspondence between Assange and Manning “looks like it came straight from NSA surveillance” of the two), yet it chose not to do what the Trump administration is currently doing because it would endanger press freedoms. This means that nothing has changed since that time besides (A) the fact that there is now a more overtly tyrannical administration in place, and (B) the fact that the public has been paced into accepting the prosecution of Assange by years of establishment propaganda.

Last year, after it was revealed that the Trump administration was seeking Assange’s arrest, Greenwald wrote the following:

“The Obama DOJ — despite launching notoriously aggressive attacks on press freedoms — recognized this critical principle when it came to WikiLeaks. It spent years exploring whether it could criminally charge Assange and WikiLeaks for publishing classified information. It ultimately decided it would not do so, and could not do so, consistent with the press freedom guarantee of the First Amendment. After all, the Obama DOJ concluded, such a prosecution would pose a severe threat to press freedom because there would be no way to prosecute Assange for publishing classified documents without also prosecuting the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian and others for doing exactly the same thing.”

Nothing has changed since 2010 apart from a more thoroughly propagandized populace and a more depraved US government, which means that this new charge that the Trump administration issued in December 2017 is based on nothing other than a diminished respect for press freedoms and an increased willingness to crush them. This makes it fraudulent and illegitimate, and the precedent that is being set by it should be rejected and opposed by everyone in the world who claims to support the existence of a free press which is capable of holding power to account.

So what are we left with? We’re left with the US government filing criminal charges against a journalist (and Assange is indisputably a journalist) for protecting his source and encouraging his source to obtain more material, both of which are things that journalists do all the time.

“While the indictment against Julian Assange disclosed today charges a conspiracy to commit computer crimes, the factual allegations against Mr. Assange boil down to encouraging a source to provide him information and taking efforts to protect the identity of that source,” said Assange lawyer Barry J Pollack in a statement today. “Journalists around the world should be deeply troubled by these unprecedented criminal charges.”

“There are parts of the indictment that are clearly designed to criminalize things journalists routinely do,” Greenwald told CNN. “Part of the accusation is that [Assange] encouraged Chelsea Manning to provide him with more documents than the original batch that she gave him, which is something that as a journalist I’ve done many times with my sources, that journalists do every day. They say ‘Oh thanks for this document, maybe you could get me this?’ They also say that he helped her to essentially cover her tracks by giving her advice about how to get this information without being detected. The only thing in the indictment, and it’s very vague, is a suggestion that he tried to help her circumvent a password; it didn’t seem to be successful, but it’s unclear whether that was designed to get documents or to simply help her cover her tracks. But either way it’s clearly a threat to the First Amendment, because it criminalizes core journalistic functions.”

In an article for Rolling Stone titled “Why the Assange Arrest Should Scare Reporters”, journalist Matt Taibbi writes that “The meatier parts of the indictment speak more to normal journalistic practices.”

“Reporters have extremely complicated relationships with sources, especially whistleblower types like Manning, who are often under extreme stress and emotionally vulnerable,” Taibbi writes. “At different times, you might counsel the same person both for and against disclosure. It’s proper to work through all the reasons for action in any direction, including weighing the public’s interest, the effect on the source’s conscience and mental health, and personal and professional consequences. For this reason, placing criminal penalties on a prosecutor’s interpretation of such interactions will likely put a scare into anyone involved with national security reporting going forward.”


The Espionage Act has not at this time been employed to prosecute Assange as many have speculated it might, and the computer crimes he’s been charged with carry a maximum sentence of five years. But this does not mean that further far more serious charges cannot be added once Assange is imprisoned on American soil, especially after his guilt in the Manning leaks has been made official government dogma following the conspiracy conviction.

“In my opinion this charging Assange with a lower-level crime (not espionage) is a trick that would allow the UK to extradite him to the US with ‘no threat of capital punishment’ only to have US prosecutors do what they always do: pile on charges,” tweeted Daniel McAdams of the Ron Paul Liberty Report, referring to assurances sought by the UK and Ecuador that Assange would not face the death penalty if extradited to the United States for the conspiracy charge.

Either way, this is a cataclysmic threat to press freedoms, and the time to act is now. The US government’s arbitrarily gifting itself the right to use fraudulent distortions to imprison anyone in the world who publishes facts about it will chill any attempts to do so in the future, and poses a far greater threat to press freedoms than anything we’ve seen in our lives. Anyone who sits idly by while this happens is signing over the sovereign right of every human being on this planet to hold power to account, and anyone calling themselves a journalist who does anything other than unequivocally oppose this move is confessing that they are a state propagandist. This is an intolerable plunge toward Orwellian dystopia, and is an assault on human dignity itself.

It’s time to shake the earth and refuse to let them cross this line. Enough is enough.

Roar, humans. Roar.


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Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 13, 2019, 02:32:24 AM
Hi Redroo

Excellent article......by the ROGUE JOURNALIST

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-you-can-be-certain-that-the-us-charge-against-assange-is-fraudulent-8eb0caa1c4f6?fbclid=IwAR025Opze6IfSCd_MFU6Iq9RsDuhm72jSdtLqxV7hy8VPVoieGYi-GOkNdA

How You Can Be Certain That
The US Charge Against Assange Is Fraudulent

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Caitlin Johnstone 11 Apr 2019

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Everyone has my unconditional permission to republish or use any part of this work (or anything else I’ve written) in any way they like free of charge (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/i-permanently-release-all-copyrights-to-all-my-writing-use-any-of-it-however-you-want-9ad929b92d42)

My work is entirely reader-supported, so if you enjoyed this piece please consider sharing it around, liking me on Facebook, following my antics on Twitter, throwing some money into my hat on Patreon or Paypal, purchasing some of my sweet merchandise, buying my new book Rogue Nation: Psychonautical Adventures With Caitlin Johnstone, or my previous book Woke: A Field Guide for Utopia Preppers. The best way to get around the internet censors and make sure you see the stuff I publish is to subscribe to the mailing list for my website (https://caitlinjohnstone.com/), which will get you an email notification for everything I publish. For more info on who I am, where I stand, and what I’m trying to do with this platform, click here (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/who-i-am-where-i-stand-and-what-im-trying-to-do-here-4a113e783578).

I hope you don't mind me adding the necessary links to avoid silly comments made by some people who have very little to offer to our discussions on this board.

It is pretty clear that the American Empire is going fast downhill and it's current Mafia Representative, President Tramp, has been shown to the rest of the world what to expect from the dying Giant!

 tiphat

 
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 13, 2019, 07:08:40 AM
What is clear is that Assange is in UK custody and a good case must be made for extradition..

Interesting that the Swedes may be considering resurrecting the sexual assault charges and they will almost not extradite Assange to the US.

Any loss of US influence is mainly down to their President...who seems to forget about who wikileaks are..

Perhaps, Assange got a little too close to the Kremlin and there might be a juicy story, yet.....!



Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 13, 2019, 12:47:29 PM
He took legal action against Ecuador last year because he didn't like their house rules. Last month Wikileaks released Ecuador's president emails, phone communications expense receipts, and photos of his family which has led to the president getting investigated for corruption.

It's safe to say Assange doesn't know how to be a good house guest, bit off the hand that fed him, and has worn out his welcome. He'll end up being somebody's prison bitch.

Things are unlikely to be as you think Billy: https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/04/03/ecuador-twists-embarrassing-ina-papers-into-pretext-to-oust-assange/

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Manny on April 13, 2019, 03:48:06 PM
I suspect the UK Government will allow his extradition, and the Australian Government not seek to intervene on behalf of it's citizen.  Ecuador will soon announce a massive US Aid package  :rouble-smile:  :whist11:

This.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Manny on April 13, 2019, 04:04:43 PM
What is clear is that Assange is in UK custody and a good case must be made for extradition.

What nonsense. All we will see now is box ticking masking the underlying US corruption. It’s all a done deal and he will end up in some horrendous US jail like Terre Haute until his death.

The US wants to make sure that other journalists don’t publish inconvenient facts.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 13, 2019, 11:44:29 PM
He took legal action against Ecuador last year because he didn't like their house rules. Last month Wikileaks released Ecuador's president emails, phone communications expense receipts, and photos of his family which has led to the president getting investigated for corruption.

It's safe to say Assange doesn't know how to be a good house guest, bit off the hand that fed him, and has worn out his welcome. He'll end up being somebody's prison bitch.

Things are unlikely to be as you think Billy: https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/04/03/ecuador-twists-embarrassing-ina-papers-into-pretext-to-oust-assange/



He took legal action against Ecuador last year because he didn't like their house rules. Last month Wikileaks released Ecuador's president emails, phone communications expense receipts, and photos of his family which has led to the president getting investigated for corruption.

It's safe to say Assange doesn't know how to be a good house guest, bit off the hand that fed him, and has worn out his welcome. He'll end up being somebody's prison bitch.

Things are unlikely to be as you think Billy: https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/04/03/ecuador-twists-embarrassing-ina-papers-into-pretext-to-oust-assange/

The Defend Wikileaks website shows Wikileaks tweet providing a link to the INA papers that accuse the president is running a criminal organization. Why tweet it if they don't believe it?

Everybody can debate what role Wikileaks played but it's clear they Tweeted info that is damaging to the leader of a nation that houses and feeds Assange. Anybody that insults me in my house will get kicked out of my house. That's what normal people do to rude people. That's what Ecuador did.

Assange has a reputation of ratting people and nations out. He has supporters but no friends left to help him. Ecuador was his last friend that could take care of him. He blew it.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 14, 2019, 12:12:14 AM

What is clear is that Assange is in UK custody and a good case must be made for extradition.

What nonsense. All we will see now is box ticking masking the underlying US corruption. It’s all a done deal and he will end up in some horrendous US jail like Terre Haute until his death.

The US wants to make sure that other journalists don’t publish inconvenient facts.

This concern is amusing ..
Normally, you'd suggest this was 'fuzzy, liberal, Guardian -reader thinking'..

Your concern for Assange is intriguing..

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 14, 2019, 03:03:41 AM
He took legal action against Ecuador last year because he didn't like their house rules. Last month Wikileaks released Ecuador's president emails, phone communications expense receipts, and photos of his family which has led to the president getting investigated for corruption.

It's safe to say Assange doesn't know how to be a good house guest, bit off the hand that fed him, and has worn out his welcome. He'll end up being somebody's prison bitch.

Things are unlikely to be as you think Billy: https://defend.wikileaks.org/2019/04/03/ecuador-twists-embarrassing-ina-papers-into-pretext-to-oust-assange/

The Defend Wikileaks website shows Wikileaks tweet providing a link to the INA papers that accuse the president is running a criminal organization. Why tweet it if they don't believe it?

Everybody can debate what role Wikileaks played but it's clear they Tweeted info that is damaging to the leader of a nation that houses and feeds Assange. Anybody that insults me in my house will get kicked out of my house. That's what normal people do to rude people. That's what Ecuador did.

Assange has a reputation of ratting people and nations out. He has supporters but no friends left to help him. Ecuador was his last friend that could take care of him. He blew it.

BillyB

Have you bothered to read all the info in that site, search and check very close the necessary  information?

Have you wonder why, as you say, wikiLeaks made that tweet ?

Of course it had nothing to do with your current Mafia representative, President Tramp!  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

I understand there was no problem between Julian Assange and the previous President, President Rafael Correa. Problems started when the current president Lenin Moreno won a narrow victory in Ecuador's on 2 April 2017 because, according to Wikipedia,

 after his election, Moreno radically shifted his political stance, breaking with Correa's legacy and making radical changes to both internal and foreign policy. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len%C3%ADn_Moreno)

I think redroo put it correctly in a nutshell:

I suspect the UK Government will allow his extradition, and the Australian Government not seek to intervene on behalf of it's citizen.  Ecuador will soon announce a massive US Aid package  :rouble-smile:  :whist11:

AndrewsF posts covered the subject correctly too!

I would suggest you consider watching or read some different channels of your usual ones......then you can make your own opinion, what would you do in his position!

Of course he did not come to your house for a friendly drink..... and insulted your wife........ as it happens his life is on the line, NOT yours or Mine.

Just think.... 7 years in a small room without access to the outside world?

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 14, 2019, 07:19:16 AM
The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Markje on April 14, 2019, 11:23:44 AM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 14, 2019, 01:46:04 PM
The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.

Money makes the world go around. The previous Ecuadorean Communist president took in Assange to piss off America. Cost Ecuador money to support Assange.

Before Assange got the boot, Assange took legal action against Ecuador last year and this year Wikileaks promoted damaging material on the current president of Ecuador. The aid package was the icing on the cake. In the past, America gave Ecuador aid until they housed Assange. The aid they gave back then had nothing to do with giving up Assange.

Assange is stupid. Period. He has lived a life where he depends on others to survive. In an effort to release every nations secrets, he burned bridges and made enemies.

Doesn't really matter if one thinks Assange is good or bad, did right or wrong. The rules in life are clear and if one did what Assange did, people and nations will be coming after that person.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 14, 2019, 01:47:22 PM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?

From what I remember reading, the UK always provided two police officers 24/7 waiting for the day Assange was released. Cost UK a bunch of money.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Markje on April 14, 2019, 03:24:11 PM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?

From what I remember reading, the UK always provided two police officers 24/7 waiting for the day Assange was released. Cost UK a bunch of money.

Big investment, for something that was essentially just 'failing to show up' on a court-date of a case brought by a foreign country that is not that important.

I would hope they will invest that much money on other cases on the same merit, they might match the Japanese police force then with an impressive 90% crime-solved-criminal-arrested rate.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 14, 2019, 05:49:02 PM
In a most unusual, apparently illegal, move, the Ecuadorian government invited the police in to arrest Assange. That's apparently illegal because there's a process to be followed in withdrawing political asylum and citizenship that were not followed.

The British government knew in advance of what was going to happen, they were a part of the process.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 14, 2019, 05:56:48 PM
The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.

Money makes the world go around. The previous Ecuadorean Communist president took in Assange to piss off America. Cost Ecuador money to support Assange.

Before Assange got the boot, Assange took legal action against Ecuador last year and this year Wikileaks promoted damaging material on the current president of Ecuador. The aid package was the icing on the cake. In the past, America gave Ecuador aid until they housed Assange. The aid they gave back then had nothing to do with giving up Assange.

Assange is stupid. Period. He has lived a life where he depends on others to survive. In an effort to release every nations secrets, he burned bridges and made enemies.

Doesn't really matter if one thinks Assange is good or bad, did right or wrong. The rules in life are clear and if one did what Assange did, people and nations will be coming after that person.


Assange helped to release top secret information which put the USA in a very bad light so he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Do that against Russia and you’ll be gunned down outside the Kremlin, killed in a gun battle on the sidewalk in Kiev or get a nice dose of lethal radiation in your hot tea. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 14, 2019, 06:55:09 PM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?

From what I remember reading, the UK always provided two police officers 24/7 waiting for the day Assange was released. Cost UK a bunch of money.

Big investment, for something that was essentially just 'failing to show up' on a court-date of a case brought by a foreign country that is not that important.

I would hope they will invest that much money on other cases on the same merit, they might match the Japanese police force then with an impressive 90% crime-solved-criminal-arrested rate.

Assange's supporters put up 240,000 Pounds for bail money. UK gets to keep it so it helps with costs of going after Assange.

The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.

Money makes the world go around. The previous Ecuadorean Communist president took in Assange to piss off America. Cost Ecuador money to support Assange.

Before Assange got the boot, Assange took legal action against Ecuador last year and this year Wikileaks promoted damaging material on the current president of Ecuador. The aid package was the icing on the cake. In the past, America gave Ecuador aid until they housed Assange. The aid they gave back then had nothing to do with giving up Assange.

Assange is stupid. Period. He has lived a life where he depends on others to survive. In an effort to release every nations secrets, he burned bridges and made enemies.

Doesn't really matter if one thinks Assange is good or bad, did right or wrong. The rules in life are clear and if one did what Assange did, people and nations will be coming after that person.


Assange helped to release top secret information which put the USA in a very bad light so he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Do that against Russia and you’ll be gunned down outside the Kremlin, killed in a gun battle on the sidewalk in Kiev or get a nice dose of lethal radiation in your hot tea. :biggrin:

Assange had a tv show on RT. He was careful not to disclose Russia's secrets. The new president of Ecuador allowed Assange to remain at the embassy as long as he didn't get involved in their politics. Early last year, Ecuador granted Assange citizenship. The honeymoon is over since Assange took legal action against Ecuador for their house rules and Wikileaks Tweeted a link to bad stuff on the Ecuadorean president.

Assange is more focused going after Western nations instead of Russia and friends. Probably why UK wanted him locked up for a very long time as the UK is one of his targets. If he was leaking secrets on Russia, UK and America would applaud and Russia would be after him.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: AvHdB on April 14, 2019, 07:08:20 PM
In a most unusual, apparently illegal, move, the Ecuadorian government invited the police in to arrest Assange. That's apparently illegal because there's a process to be followed in withdrawing political asylum and citizenship that were not followed.

The British government knew in advance of what was going to happen, they were a part of the process.

While now a moot point I have also wondered about this. It certainly seems the London police were 'invited' into the embassy.

Different sources say J. Assange was arrested inside the compound others indicate outside. Curious which it was.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 14, 2019, 07:28:33 PM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?

From what I remember reading, the UK always provided two police officers 24/7 waiting for the day Assange was released. Cost UK a bunch of money.

Big investment, for something that was essentially just 'failing to show up' on a court-date of a case brought by a foreign country that is not that important.

I would hope they will invest that much money on other cases on the same merit, they might match the Japanese police force then with an impressive 90% crime-solved-criminal-arrested rate.

Assange's supporters put up 240,000 Pounds for bail money. UK gets to keep it so it helps with costs of going after Assange.

The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.

Money makes the world go around. The previous Ecuadorean Communist president took in Assange to piss off America. Cost Ecuador money to support Assange.

Before Assange got the boot, Assange took legal action against Ecuador last year and this year Wikileaks promoted damaging material on the current president of Ecuador. The aid package was the icing on the cake. In the past, America gave Ecuador aid until they housed Assange. The aid they gave back then had nothing to do with giving up Assange.

Assange is stupid. Period. He has lived a life where he depends on others to survive. In an effort to release every nations secrets, he burned bridges and made enemies.

Doesn't really matter if one thinks Assange is good or bad, did right or wrong. The rules in life are clear and if one did what Assange did, people and nations will be coming after that person.


Assange helped to release top secret information which put the USA in a very bad light so he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Do that against Russia and you’ll be gunned down outside the Kremlin, killed in a gun battle on the sidewalk in Kiev or get a nice dose of lethal radiation in your hot tea. :biggrin:

Assange had a tv show on RT. He was careful not to disclose Russia's secrets. The new president of Ecuador allowed Assange to remain at the embassy as long as he didn't get involved in their politics. Early last year, Ecuador granted Assange citizenship. The honeymoon is over since Assange took legal action against Ecuador for their house rules and Wikileaks Tweeted a link to bad stuff on the Ecuadorean president.

Assange is more focused going after Western nations instead of Russia and friends. Probably why UK wanted him locked up for a very long time as the UK is one of his targets. If he was leaking secrets on Russia, UK and America would applaud and Russia would be after him.

Let me summarize: Assange is a smelly stinky stupid rapist who believed his own hype. Although he had the good sense not to pull his stunts against Russia his gigantic hubris was his own undoing.

In a way he would have been lucky to have released Russian state secrets as it would have likely quickly ended his life in a hail of bullets. Then again Hillary Clinton wanted to drone strike him, yet another good reason she didn’t win.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 15, 2019, 12:33:37 AM
and how did the uk police know the exact time and date assange was let go?

did they still have 24x7 surveillance?

From what I have read and seen on the British TV channels..... there were always 2 policemen outside the front door of the Embassy.

Two or three days before his arrest.....it appears RUPTLY and RT got word about the move to expel him, so they stuck a camera opposite the Embassy.....and were ready when the police arrived and were the only station with Live Picture.... the BBC few minutes later transmitted the same pictures after editing small part.....(where the Ruptly camera operator) was running to the Pavement outside the Embassy.....and obviously because of their illegal copying ....RUPTLY added the title "Exclusive"......soon.

It has been reported on RT that Julian Assange was invited at the Ambassador's office, two policemen in plain clothes were present, where he was told that Ecuador is revoking his Asylum status and Nationality. It is made very clear that they were invited by the Embassy to expel him out of the Embassy......and we all watched the video, where he was carried out (flying) of the Embassy in Handcuffs shouting!

As we previously said (few of us) it was a well Planned operation by the Anglo Zionist 5 sisters......following American instructions!

In a most unusual, apparently illegal, move, the Ecuadorian government invited the police in to arrest Assange. That's apparently illegal because there's a process to be followed in withdrawing political asylum and citizenship that were not followed.

The British government knew in advance of what was going to happen, they were a part of the process.

Absolutely agree and it is true.  :nod:






Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 15, 2019, 01:45:07 AM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 15, 2019, 01:49:48 AM
In a most unusual, apparently illegal, move, the Ecuadorian government invited the police in to arrest Assange. That's apparently illegal because there's a process to be followed in withdrawing political asylum and citizenship that were not followed.

The British government knew in advance of what was going to happen, they were a part of the process.

While now a moot point I have also wondered about this. It certainly seems the London police were 'invited' into the embassy.

Different sources say J. Assange was arrested inside the compound others indicate outside. Curious which it was.


If by 'Different sources say' you mean people had not seen Assange being carried out of the embassy by British police then there might be some grounds for confusion. Those who saw that footage would understand otherwise. It was clear that he had been seized by people with legal authority to do so and that they had taken him into their custody. It was also clear that Assange was not a willing participant for those whose English language skills might be somewhat lacking.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 15, 2019, 01:59:38 AM
Just a day away from Home and I wake up today to read an avalanche of Fake news and comments from our Brainwashed and programmed, as Andrew will say, American friends. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


The aid package was announced on the same day as Assange's arrest - not even a fig leaf of plausible deniability was allowed to Ecuador. Not only was the Ecuadorian government bought and paid for but they were humiliated by their buyer.

Money makes the world go around. The previous Ecuadorean Communist president took in Assange to piss off America. Cost Ecuador money to support Assange.

Before Assange got the boot, Assange took legal action against Ecuador last year and this year Wikileaks promoted damaging material on the current president of Ecuador. The aid package was the icing on the cake. In the past, America gave Ecuador aid until they housed Assange. The aid they gave back then had nothing to do with giving up Assange.

Assange is stupid. Period. He has lived a life where he depends on others to survive. In an effort to release every nations secrets, he burned bridges and made enemies.

Doesn't really matter if one thinks Assange is good or bad, did right or wrong. The rules in life are clear and if one did what Assange did, people and nations will be coming after that person.

* Assange helped to release top secret information which put the USA in a very bad light (Edit: Showed up the REAL FACE of USA, Around the world) so he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

** Do that against Russia and you’ll be gunned down outside the Kremlin, killed in a gun battle on the sidewalk in Kiev or get a nice dose of lethal radiation in your hot tea.
:biggrin:

* a) Are you aware how WikiLeaks receive documents from whistleblowers?
 
  b) Is WikiLeaks legal?

  c) The legal status of WikiLeaks is complex. Assange considers WikiLeaks a protection intermediary. ... The group located its headquarters in Sweden because it has one of the world's strongest laws to protect confidential source-journalist relationships. WikiLeaks has stated it does not solicit any information.

d) Is WikiLeaks betraying your country or the whistleblowers?

e) How many American publications have published information from WikiLeaks and have they been prosecuted by the US Government?  Bank Julius Baer lawsuit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_material_published_by_WikiLeaks)

**  A) Nemtsov was shot and killed crossing the Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge near the Kremlin walking home after a meal out, in the company of Anna Duritskaya, a 23-year-old Ukrainian model who had been his girlfriend for two and a half years.  Who killed him?... Read and Learn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Boris_Nemtsov#Suspects)

B) "get a nice dose of lethal radiation in your hot tea"  Where are your evidence?


BillyB.... Do you have a helicopter to escape when the Mexicans overrun your new country?

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  tiphat
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 15, 2019, 02:44:50 AM



BillyB.... Do you have a helicopter to escape when the Mexicans overrun your new country?

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  tiphat

Doesn't need one. He will just apply for Mexican citizenship.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 15, 2019, 03:27:41 AM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?

Dear andrewfi,

1/ He was charged and the Swedes thought there was enough merit in the charges ( not rape ) to issue a European Arrest Warrant


2/ Of course, he may well be innocent  - Cornfed is repeating an allegation - not a fact ....   I do hope that  eases your mind .. 

It is amusing to note that you might actually have a conscience and find it wrong to suggest an allegation is fact .....  and presume innocence...

Time to visit your mirror and check how 'black' you seem, Mr Pot .... 

Penny dropping ?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 15, 2019, 06:55:39 AM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?

Obviously if he had been a moral man who had honored the woman’s wishes and not treated her as a dumpster she would not have charged him with rape.

Would an honest man flee the scene, especially considering he had the financial assets to defend himself in a court of law?
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Manny on April 15, 2019, 08:58:22 AM
A journalist I know wrote this article on the Julian Assange situation. I think I agree with pretty much everything he wrote on the subject, you can read it here: R.I.P. Julian Assange: The Annoying Australian Will Be Quite a Catch for Trump (https://thenewturkey.org/rip-julian-assange-the-annoying-australian-will-be-quite-a-catch-for-trump)
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: AvHdB on April 15, 2019, 09:11:33 AM
A journalist I know wrote this article on the Julian Assange situation. I think I agree with pretty much everything he wrote on the subject, you can read it here: R.I.P. Julian Assange: The Annoying Australian Will Be Quite a Catch for Trump (https://thenewturkey.org/rip-julian-assange-the-annoying-australian-will-be-quite-a-catch-for-trump)

Manny, A very well written article. Worth the read. Av
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Manny on April 15, 2019, 09:30:39 AM
A journalist I know wrote this article on the Julian Assange situation. I think I agree with pretty much everything he wrote on the subject, you can read it here: R.I.P. Julian Assange: The Annoying Australian Will Be Quite a Catch for Trump (https://thenewturkey.org/rip-julian-assange-the-annoying-australian-will-be-quite-a-catch-for-trump)

Manny, A very well written article. Worth the read. Av

Martin is a very good journalist, a good writer and a generally nice chap. He has in the past written for the Daily Mail, The Times and lots of other mainstream publications. He has spent lots of time in Lebanon and the Middle East and is very clued up on the situation there and he is very well versed on all things Russia as well. If you are a Twitter user, he is well worth a follow: https://twitter.com/MartinRJay
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Markje on April 15, 2019, 11:14:26 AM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?

Obviously if he had been a moral man who had honored the woman’s wishes and not treated her as a dumpster she would not have charged him with rape.

Would an honest man flee the scene, especially considering he had the financial assets to defend himself in a court of law?

He raped noone and the complaint was settled. The court never even needed Assange to show up for this to end. Which it did by now.

The sole reason for his arrest was because the USA wanted him in chains. That was also the reason Assange did not want to face prison despite his very generous wealth
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 15, 2019, 11:47:13 AM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?

Obviously if he had been a moral man who had honored the woman’s wishes and not treated her as a dumpster she would not have charged him with rape.

Would an honest man flee the scene, especially considering he had the financial assets to defend himself in a court of law?

He raped noone and the complaint was settled. The court never even needed Assange to show up for this to end. Which it did by now.

The sole reason for his arrest was because the USA wanted him in chains. That was also the reason Assange did not want to face prison despite his very generous wealth


Your attempt to explain away his behavior sounds fishy. As a journalist he was most protected and safest in Sweden, yet he chose to be a prisoner in the UK, one of the least safest places for anyone releasing top secret information on either the US or the UK.

This begs the question, is the UK our bit*# or are we theirs?  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 15, 2019, 03:56:16 PM
* a) Are you aware how WikiLeaks receive documents from whistleblowers?
 
  b) Is WikiLeaks legal?

  c) The legal status of WikiLeaks is complex. Assange considers WikiLeaks a protection intermediary. ... The group located its headquarters in Sweden because it has one of the world's strongest laws to protect confidential source-journalist relationships. WikiLeaks has stated it does not solicit any information.


Remember the recent American arrest in Russia because he accepted a flash drive containing Russian State Secrets? Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws. Whether or not a nation wants to go after the receiver is dependent on the nation. Some nations want to imprison the receiver. Some nations will attempt to assassinate the receiver. Wikileaks receives a lot of info and puts it out there for all to see. In most nations eyes, Wikileaks is worse than the guy that delivers the info since the deliverer isn't as good a distributer.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: AvHdB on April 15, 2019, 04:11:50 PM
* a) Are you aware how WikiLeaks receive documents from whistleblowers?
 
  b) Is WikiLeaks legal?

  c) The legal status of WikiLeaks is complex. Assange considers WikiLeaks a protection intermediary. ... The group located its headquarters in Sweden because it has one of the world's strongest laws to protect confidential source-journalist relationships. WikiLeaks has stated it does not solicit any information.


Remember the recent American arrest in Russia because he accepted a flash drive containing Russian State Secrets? Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws. Whether or not a nation wants to go after the receiver is dependent on the nation. Some nations want to imprison the receiver. Some nations will attempt to assassinate the receiver. Wikileaks receives a lot of info and puts it out there for all to see. In most nations eyes, Wikileaks is worse than the guy that delivers the info since the deliverer isn't as good a distributer.

A valid comparison. One could argue that the man captured in Moscow and J. Assange are not the same. But the accusations are the same.

I think everything will become very interesting when is J. Assange arrives in America.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 15, 2019, 05:33:28 PM
* a) Are you aware how WikiLeaks receive documents from whistleblowers?
 
  b) Is WikiLeaks legal?

  c) The legal status of WikiLeaks is complex. Assange considers WikiLeaks a protection intermediary. ... The group located its headquarters in Sweden because it has one of the world's strongest laws to protect confidential source-journalist relationships. WikiLeaks has stated it does not solicit any information.

1) Remember the recent American arrest in Russia because he accepted a flash drive containing Russian State Secrets?

2) Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws. Whether or not a nation wants to go after the receiver is dependent on the nation. Some nations want to imprison the receiver. Some nations will attempt to assassinate the receiver.

3) Wikileaks receives a lot of info and puts it out there for all to see. In most nations eyes, Wikileaks is worse than the guy that delivers the info since the deliverer isn't as good a distributer.

1) Sorry but I am not aware of this case...... enlighten me please!

2) I am aware of the The Official Secrets Act in the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Secrets_Act) which the USA copied... State secrets privilege (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_secrets_privilege) but your statement "Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws". ....... it's wrong or if you know better.... please prove it to us.

The rest of your statement it's only an effort to justify the American Actions and pursuit of the receiver.... in this case Wiki Leaks, because of the embarrassment in disclosing the American war secrets and murderous actions against people of another country!

3) Your statement it's simply bollocks and the line you are fed by your own Government and your Anglo-Zionist controlled Media. (https://thesaker.is/terminology/)

Do you really expect the Europeans to accept such rubbish coming from your new Country USA to satisfy the Narrative of your Administration and its beneficiaries?

In Europe the people don't have the same habit, as in the US to accept all the lies the governments ares pedling out!

 :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: AvHdB on April 15, 2019, 05:48:07 PM
Your statement it's simply bollocks and the line you are fed by your own Government and your Anglo-Zionist controlled Media.
Wiz fairly soon we all be in your view point Zionist trolls/agents. Really you need to considering both sides of the 'coin' and look at the big picture.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 15, 2019, 07:03:24 PM
Your statement it's simply bollocks and the line you are fed by your own Government and your Anglo-Zionist controlled Media.
Wiz fairly soon we all be in your view point Zionist trolls/agents. Really you need to considering both sides of the 'coin' and look at the big picture.

I suggest you learn how to read correctly before making any silly comments.

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Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: BillyB on April 15, 2019, 09:16:11 PM

1) Sorry but I am not aware of this case...... enlighten me please!

2) I am aware of the The Official Secrets Act in the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Secrets_Act) which the USA copied... State secrets privilege (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_secrets_privilege) but your statement "Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws". ....... it's wrong or if you know better.... please prove it to us.

The rest of your statement it's only an effort to justify the American Actions and pursuit of the receiver.... in this case Wiki Leaks, because of the embarrassment in disclosing the American war secrets and murderous actions against people of another country!

3) Your statement it's simply bollocks and the line you are fed by your own Government and your Anglo-Zionist controlled Media. (https://thesaker.is/terminology/)

Do you really expect the Europeans to accept such rubbish coming from your new Country USA to satisfy the Narrative of your Administration and its beneficiaries?

In Europe the people don't have the same habit, as in the US to accept all the lies the governments ares pedling out!

 :coffeeread:

1) Here's the article of the American attending a wedding but met a Russian he was communicating with on social media while in Moscow. At the hotel room, he was given a flash drive and was quickly arrested during the exchange. Russia never arrested the guy who gave him a flash drive so apparently it was a set up.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/us/russia-detains-us-citizen-paul-whelan/index.html

2) Links below shows one who receives info that can harm America is a criminal offense. America rarely goes after it's own journalists if they accept that kind of info.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/receiving-documents-and-information-from-government-sources

Link below shows one who publishes classified info is guilty of criminal offense. Assange is definitely guilty of that.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

3) Bollocks, no. True story, yes.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on April 16, 2019, 01:43:32 AM

1) Sorry but I am not aware of this case...... enlighten me please!

2) I am aware of the The Official Secrets Act in the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Secrets_Act) which the USA copied... State secrets privilege (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_secrets_privilege) but your statement "Receiving State secrets from any nation makes the receiver in violation of that nation's laws". ....... it's wrong or if you know better.... please prove it to us.

The rest of your statement it's only an effort to justify the American Actions and pursuit of the receiver.... in this case Wiki Leaks, because of the embarrassment in disclosing the American war secrets and murderous actions against people of another country!

3) Your statement it's simply bollocks and the line you are fed by your own Government and your Anglo-Zionist controlled Media. (https://thesaker.is/terminology/)

Do you really expect the Europeans to accept such rubbish coming from your new Country USA to satisfy the Narrative of your Administration and its beneficiaries?

In Europe the people don't have the same habit, as in the US to accept all the lies the governments ares pedling out!

 :coffeeread:

1) Here's the article of the American attending a wedding but met a Russian he was communicating with on social media while in Moscow. At the hotel room, he was given a flash drive and was quickly arrested during the exchange. Russia never arrested the guy who gave him a flash drive so apparently it was a set up.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/us/russia-detains-us-citizen-paul-whelan/index.html

2) Links below shows one who receives info that can harm America is a criminal offense. America rarely goes after it's own journalists if they accept that kind of info.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/receiving-documents-and-information-from-government-sources

Link below shows one who publishes classified info is guilty of criminal offense. Assange is definitely guilty of that.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

3) Bollocks, no. True story, yes.


You’ll have to forgive Wiz, his plumbing is backed up. When that happens apparently deep confusion sets in.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 16, 2019, 10:36:42 AM
1) Here's the article of the American attending a wedding but met a Russian he was communicating with on social media while in Moscow. At the hotel room, he was given a flash drive and was quickly arrested during the exchange. Russia never arrested the guy who gave him a flash drive so apparently it was a set up.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/01/us/russia-detains-us-citizen-paul-whelan/index.html
1) I read your above link from CNN and there is not much information about what exactly happened. I also read  Washington Post, Moscow times and BBC but none has clear information.

I understand that  Mr Paul Whelan has 3 different citizenships,  British, Canadian and Irish nationality, joined the Marine Reserves in 1994 and rose to the rank of staff sergeant in 2004. He served in Iraq for several months in 2004 and 2006.  So he was a mercenary paid to do your dirty work!

From the BBC: "He was convicted in a 2008 court martial on charges related to larceny (theft) and received a bad-conduct discharge. Details of the charges have not been made public."

The Russian followed the International procedure and informed the Embassy. Your Ambassador visited him and he appeared to the court where he was accused of spying! No more news after that.

Looks like the Russians take revenge for Maria Butina (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46558392) who is still in prison in the US.

All I have to say is: Russia and America have played the same game and traded spying allegations at regular intervals since the Cold War. Today relations between the 2 countries, because of allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 US presidential election, have plummeted.

2) Links below shows one who receives info that can harm America is a criminal offense. America rarely goes after it's own journalists if they accept that kind of info.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/receiving-documents-and-information-from-government-sources

Link below shows one who publishes classified info is guilty of criminal offense. Assange is definitely guilty of that.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

2) All your links and information you posted APPLY ONLY TO USA.

Take a look to your last link........

Receiving Documents and Information from Government Sources

At the bottom of the article states clearly: 

Jurisdiction: then below gives a link: United States

For your information in the case of Julian Assange it was Manning who broke the Law, for which is still in Prison and not the receiver......except you you believe that the USA has Jurisdiction on every country on the world, whis is wrong.

I can assure you that Julian Assange has some of the best Legal people who supporting him... in this country. Have to wait and see what The British Government will do.

3) Wikileaks receives a lot of info and puts it out there for all to see. In most nations eyes, Wikileaks is worse than the guy that delivers the info since the deliverer isn't as good a distributer

3) Bollocks, no. True story, yes.

Finally I reiterate what I posted before:

The rest of your statement it's only an effort to justify the American Actions in pursuit of the receiver.... in this case Wiki Leaks and its "Editor Julian Assange", because of the embarrassment in disclosing the American war crimes and murderous actions against the people of another country!

(http://www.yannis.me.uk/PHOTOS/E/Emotikons_RUA/have_nice_day.gif)
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on April 16, 2019, 11:15:47 AM
Wiz, I believe you'll find relations had plummeted to a new low in Feb 2014 and if the Kremlin thought 'Trampu's' election would help ..little things like Salisbury haven't helped

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 16, 2019, 11:43:59 AM

You’ll have to forgive Wiz, his plumbing is backed up. When that happens apparently deep confusion sets in.  :laugh:

 
:P :P :P  JUST FOR YOU..   :P :P: :P: (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,26733.msg492591.html#msg492591)
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 16, 2019, 12:11:12 PM

BillyB.... Do you have a helicopter to escape when the Mexicans overrun your new country?

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:  tiphat

Doesn't need one. He will just apply for Mexican citizenship.


Andrew

Do you think these 2 clowns..... are lying?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/15/letters-support-claim-julian-assange-would-not-be-extradited-to-us?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTA0MTY%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email

THe Guardian definitely is singing another song............what do you think?

 ???
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on April 17, 2019, 01:19:35 AM
British law is clear that people will not be extradited if they face torture or the death penalty. I see no reason to think that the government would do otherwise here. It is also most unlikely that he'd face the death penalty over there anyway, itis a meaningless commitment, a fig leaf to confuse the poorly informed feelzerz.

I expect that if Assange is extradited that once he arrives in the U.S that more charges will be laid against him and the British government will wring their hands and mutter how they think it is terrible, but, of course, nothing will happen and nobody, apart from feelzerz will be surprised by any of it.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Wiz on April 17, 2019, 06:40:04 AM
British law is clear that people will not be extradited if they face torture or the death penalty. I see no reason to think that the government would do otherwise here. It is also most unlikely that he'd face the death penalty over there anyway, itis a meaningless commitment, a fig leaf to confuse the poorly informed feelzerz.

I expect that if Assange is extradited that once he arrives in the U.S that more charges will be laid against him and the British government will wring their hands and mutter how they think it is terrible, but, of course, nothing will happen and nobody, apart from feelzerz will be surprised by any of it.

I read the letter by Boris and also Hunt.... and it is very clear what will happen.

The Swedish will do nothing so the road will be open......and he will go off the British Governments hands.......and when in the US the American's will load more accusations and he will land in prison for the next 45 years........

Nicely planned by the 5 Anglo Zionist Sisters ........


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Thanks for the reply.

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Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: redroo on May 01, 2019, 08:46:12 AM
   
[Assange Sentenced 50 Weeks For Bogus Bail Charge
by Caitlin Johnstone

Following seven years of imprisonment at the Ecuadorian embassy fighting US extradition, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been sentenced to 50 weeks behind bars for an entirely bogus bail charge.

Sky News reporter Jordan Milne live-tweeted events as they unfolded, reporting that Assange's defense argued that his fears of rendition and torture at the hands of the US government were well-founded. His life in the Ecuadorian embassy and the physical and psychological detriments which came with it were described, including deteriorated health and depression. The judge rejected his entire defense and delivered nearly the harshest sentence possible.

"Your continued residence in the Embassy has necessitated a concentration of resources, and expenditure of £16 million of taxpayers’ money in ensuring that when you did leave, you were brought to justice," Judge Deborah Taylor told Assange upon his sentencing.

This is bullshit. Assange's residency at the embassy never cost taxpayers a penny; it was the British government's decision to pour money into patrolling the embassy around the clock with police who had orders to arrest Assange on sight over a petty bail charge. It was the British government's decision to persuade the Swedish government not to drop its investigation in 2013 so that it could pursue the agenda to arrest Assange for US extradition. Assange's residency didn't cost British taxpayers anything; the agenda to imprison and extradite a journalist for publishing facts is what cost taxpayers £16 million. There is one reason and one reason only that the British government saw fit to spend £16 million of taxpayers' money patrolling that embassy, and it wasn't because they really, really hate bail violations.

No, the one and only reason the UK government found it reasonable to invest £16 million in patrolling the Ecuadorian embassy is because it had an agenda to help the US war machine punish someone who embarrassed it. And now the cost of that UK government agenda is being used to justify nearly a year behind bars after years of arbitrary detention.

Julian Assange's sentence, for seeking and receiving asylum, is twice as much as the sentencing guidelines. The so-called speedboat killer, convicted of manslaughter, was only sentenced to six months for failing to appear in court.

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) May 1, 2019

"Julian Assange's sentence, for seeking and receiving asylum, is twice as much as the sentencing guidelines," WikiLeaks tweeted. "The so-called speedboat killer, convicted of manslaughter, was only sentenced to six months for failing to appear in court."

The bail charge itself is entirely illegitimate. As scholar and WikiLeaks advocate Simon Floth explains, under British law bail is only legally breached if there’s a failure to meet bail “without reasonable cause”, which the human right to seek asylum certainly is. The UK itself was clearly unconvinced of its own authority to charge someone who was under political asylum for jumping bail, waiting a full nine days before issuing an arrest warrant in 2012.

After the Swedish government decided to drop its sexual assault investigation in 2017 without issuing any charges, Assange’s legal team attempted last year to get the warrant dropped. The judge in that case, Emma Arbuthnot, just happens to be married to former Tory junior Defence Minister and government whip James Arbuthnot, who served as director of Security Intelligence Consultancy SC Strategy Ltd with a former head of MI6. Arbuthnot denied Assange’s request with extreme vitriol, despite his argument that British law does have provisions which allow for the time he’d already served under house arrest to count toward far more time than would be served for violating bail.

Julian Assange's sentence is as shocking as it is vindictive. We have grave concerns as to whether he will receive a fair extradition hearing in the UK.

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) May 1, 2019

All this of course pales in comparison to the far more grave threat Assange faces tomorrow, when his hearing for US extradition begins.

The US charge accompanying Assange's extradition request is even more bogus than the bail charge; a re-interpretation of standard journalistic practices like source protection to create a charge which the Obama administration declined to prosecute based on the same evidence for fear of endangering press freedoms. Assange is charged with "conspiring" to help Chelsea Manning avoid detection while leaking evidence of US war crimes and malfeasance, which is something any investigative journalist who publishes leaks would do. The charge is a bunch of words designed to twist standard journalistic practices into just enough of a crime to get Assange onto US soil for "non-political" reasons.

As Pentagon Papers lawyer James Goodale explains, "Under the U.S.-U.K. extradition treaty, one cannot be extradited from the United Kingdom if the extradition is for 'political purposes.'" Once he's on US soil, far more serious charges may be added that are of a very political nature indeed. If that happens, Assange will not be spending the five years behind bars for computer offenses that his current charge allows, he’ll be spending decades.

“I don’t think Julian is looking at five years in prison, I think he’s probably looking at 50 years in prison,” said CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, adding, “I think that there are many more charges to be considered for Julian. I would expect a superseding indictment, possibly to include espionage charges.”


There is simply no such thing as a fair trial in the Eastern District of Virginia, which is where Assange will be heading if extradited to the US.

“No national security defendant has ever won a case in the EDVA,” Kiriakou told RT upon Assange’s arrest. “In my case, I asked Judge Brinkema to declassify 70 documents that I needed to defend myself. She denied all 70 documents. And so I had literally no defense for myself and was forced to take a plea.”

“He will not, he cannot get a fair trial,” Kiriakou said on a Unity4J vigil when Assange was still at the embassy. “It’s impossible, because the deck is stacked. And everybody knows what’s gonna happen if he comes back to the Eastern District of Virginia. This is the same advice I gave Ed Snowden: don’t come home, because you can’t get a fair trial here. Julian doesn’t have the choice, and that’s what frightens me even more.”

This is why it's imperative for everyone who stands for truth, press freedoms or government accountability to oppose this extradition request tooth and claw, wherever they're at in the world. Australians should be pushing their government to intercede against US extradition, Britons should be doing the same, and Americans should be pushing their government not to extradite. It's too late to keep Assange from being pried loose from the embassy and imprisoned by the UK, so now we need to put all our energy into keeping Assange out of the clutches of the same government which tortured Chelsea Manning.

Go to demonstrations, make phone calls to your local representatives, donate get posters spread around Australia, write letters to the editor, and share information about what's going on with your friends and family and anyone you can. We can't rely on the legal system to sort this one out, because, as we've seen today, the legal system can very easily be manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.


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Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on May 01, 2019, 09:51:18 AM
I confess, this whole thing vexes me mightily.

I think that the UK now has political prisoners.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Manny on May 01, 2019, 09:54:40 AM
The US war machine and their cohorts (including the UK) will keep him locked up until his death one way or another.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: msmoby on May 01, 2019, 09:57:52 AM
The above two posts are entertaining


Said Narcissist is serving porridge for breaching bail 
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on May 01, 2019, 10:44:23 AM
The US war machine and their cohorts (including the UK) will keep him locked up until his death one way or another.

The US War machine is controlled by the Rothchilds and CFR which iirc most are right there on your soil.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on September 12, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
Pamela Anderson went on the view and defended Assange





Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: rosco on September 13, 2019, 07:28:16 AM
The US war machine and their cohorts (including the UK) will keep him locked up until his death one way or another.

Only 3 months following Manny's post and it resinates more than ever, given what we saw with Epstein and his 'suicide'. They'll no doubt need to keep Assange locked up a bit longer and delay his suicide until after something else has taken the worlds attention.

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: andrewfi on September 13, 2019, 08:40:30 AM
Looks like his death will be natural causes. It seems that he isn't in good health.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: 2tallbill on September 14, 2019, 09:15:49 AM
The US war machine and their cohorts (including the UK) will keep him locked up until his death one way or another.

Unless he grows his hair long and changes his name to Julie.

(https://www.amnesty.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/chelsea-manning-entry-to-australiajpg.jpg)

Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on September 14, 2019, 02:11:23 PM
confederate, where did you get the idea the Assange is a rapist? Has there been a trial of which we are unaware, or does it suit you to just make stuff up?

Obviously if he had been a moral man who had honored the woman’s wishes and not treated her as a dumpster she would not have charged him with rape.

Would an honest man flee the scene, especially considering he had the financial assets to defend himself in a court of law?

He raped noone and the complaint was settled. The court never even needed Assange to show up for this to end. Which it did by now.

The sole reason for his arrest was because the USA wanted him in chains. That was also the reason Assange did not want to face prison despite his very generous wealth

You could very well be correct, Mark.

Because we can rarely trust the media it’s difficult to know with precision however I’m leaning towards your explanation.
Title: Re: Assange arrested in London - April 2019
Post by: Confederate on September 14, 2019, 02:21:14 PM
Pamela Anderson went on the view and defended Assange


Anyone who actually does real journalism should be defended.