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Title: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on May 20, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
Hi,

Is there an updated list of websites Russia/Ukraine especially that people recommend here.


Some sites people have recommeded to me before are smaller agencies that pay by letter which I dont really like

I am a fan of Elenas models, Ukraine Date (http://cupidlinks.com/?a=89194&c=5141&s1=)


Thanks
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Confederate on May 21, 2018, 09:44:09 AM
Hi,

Is there an updated list of websites Russia/Ukraine especially that people recommend here.


Some sites people have recommeded to me before are smaller agencies that pay by letter which I dont really like

I am a fan of Elenas models, [url=http://cupidlinks.com/?a=89194&c=5141&s1=]Ukraine Date (http://cupidlinks.com/?a=89194&c=5141&s1=)[/url]


Thanks

Here’s a good one.

https://www.russiancupid.com/
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on May 21, 2018, 11:42:55 PM
Elenasmodels is a shadow of it's former self, IMHO and I'd recommend fdating / dmnotify - my info is five years old
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Wiz on May 22, 2018, 04:37:36 AM
I would suggest to use FREE PERSONALS    http://freepersonals.ru/
which is completely free and get some experience.

1) Register and create a profile But..... do not post any photo for 1-2 weeks because there are plenty of scammers around and your box will be full......

2) after 2 weeks when your box is almost empty... then post a photo....... and wait till somebody who knows how to read English write to you.

3) If you find somebody who take your fancy.... ask for her telephone numbers..... Home and Mobile and also if she has skype or any other Messenger.

If she gives you the telephone numbers.... test them and see what are her reactions or if she is on Skype... then so much better.

If none of the above works......then move on to the next one.

At the end of the day it's FREE. I did and met 5-6 and straight away I knew from my skype contact... if she was real or not!

Ignore all requests for money.

Have fun and don't be shy to post their letters here for our inspection . There are many experienced people around to advise you!

AndrewF has estblished the "Dirty Barrel " theory......  you never know!

Reremember

"NEVER SEND ANYBODY ANY MONEY BEFORE MEETING THEM IN PERSON."


Good luck






Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on May 22, 2018, 06:44:28 AM
hi,
What is the benefit with free personals as if you want to meet a future wife why does a free website have an advantage?

Ukraindate any good?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: AvHdB on May 22, 2018, 09:11:44 AM
"NEVER SEND ANYBODY ANY MONEY BEFORE MEETING THEM IN PERSON."

The advice of Wiz is rule #1

If you insist on spending money to communicate with women than perhaps this site is better. > https://www.cuteonly.com/girls/ <
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Manny on May 22, 2018, 12:54:47 PM
why does a free website have an advantage?

It doesn't, but many blokes like to imagine they will do this for free. Many in this endeavour are total cheapskates. They want free this, free that, 5 connections for the cheapest flights, staying in hostels, etc. Few of those men are married.

Genuine women on foreign facing paid dating sites are already self-selected to be looking for foreign men. Half your work is done already.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Rockstar77 on May 22, 2018, 02:45:02 PM
I met my wife on this site https://russian-ukrainian-women.com/ . It’s a paysite but hey..it worked for me and my wife is crazy in love with me..I call her my little shadow..what a sweetheart. Anyways... I liked the fact that there was not just the typical supermodel Ukrainian or Russian women photos that the majority of sites portray when Ukraine or Russia isn’t just full of beauties because there’s plenty of average to normal girls there as well. There’s plenty of average to decent girls on this site and little vixens. Don’t get me wrong because I ended up with a little rocket and my top 10 looked like something out of a Victoria’s Secret catalog but I found this site to be worth the value. I would never go to a free site because it looks cheap and FSU women can’t stand men like that. I’m not saying be a walking atm machine but use common sense and don’t be a penny pincher. The main success for me was staying away from cities you know that are going to be oversaturated. Kiev, Odessa, Lviv, look further east like Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Poltava, etc.. good luck.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Wiz on May 22, 2018, 03:45:42 PM
why does a free website have an advantage?

It doesn't, but many blokes like to imagine they will do this for free. Many in this endeavour are total cheapskates. They want free this, free that, 5 connections for the cheapest flights, staying in hostels, etc. Few of those men are married.

I think my statement in the first 2 lines it's very clear, especially for people who have no experience and of course I don't know the new poster or if he has any experience. Nothing is wrong for some free practice on a dating site! A newbie could buy a book and learn about Russian women, too.

"I would suggest to use FREE PERSONALS    http://freepersonals.ru/ ... which is completely free and get some experience."


Personally I have never tried to stay in a 5* hotel to show off and impress a woman, because a 3* BB it's good enough and comfortable and I have never stayed in a youth hostel. Due to my travel experience, most of the time, I am able to book cheap flights on the most direct flights and yes I took advantage of the EU directive and brought my wife for FREE in the UK.

I am not loaded like some ... and I saw no reason paying her Majesty's Government £900 + for an entrance visa to UK. After our wedding I used that money for a nice holiday in Greece. BTW I did not meet my wife on a Free Dating site...... but on one who permitted the first letter for Free and my wife was very clever and we established direct connection. Then I know web design.... and 10 years next month, we are still together  :)

Genuine women on foreign facing paid dating sites are already self-selected to be looking for foreign men. Half your work is done already.

Not necessarily! This endeavour it's not a short trip to the pub!

 tiphat
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on May 22, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
Hi,

I have been married to a russian women for 6 years  before being divorced . She was from Moscow and I have been to Russia before so I am not a newbie and yes FSU women can be difficult as well as any women can.

My issue is that I wanted a family and my late 40's.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: AvHdB on May 22, 2018, 05:34:43 PM
How much Russian did you learn? If a fair bit than that might be a big advantage.

Bear in mind I sense from the time of your first trip to today the landscape has changed in the former Soviet Union with regards to foreigners dating there.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on May 23, 2018, 12:00:06 AM
Wiz,

andrew99 is asking for advice on dating sites - not the letters he might receive.

It is typical of your nosiness that you'd want to 'help' by reading any letter and then try to trace the writer .... 




Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on May 23, 2018, 03:33:44 AM
How much Russian did you learn? If a fair bit than that might be a big advantage.

Bear in mind I sense from the time of your first trip to today the landscape has changed in the former Soviet Union with regards to foreigners dating there.


well i have no intention in just fronting up to moscow  and going to bars/nightclubs in trying to find a woman.

Plenty of people I have known have been russia in last 6 years .

it isnt just fun dating but the life you offer at home as well their willingness to relocate and married is more the factor IMHO

Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 11:43:54 AM
Genuine women on foreign facing paid dating sites are already self-selected to be looking for foreign men. Half your work is done already.

True - but I personally had only negative experience with Meetic and E-Darling...  ???
Title: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 11:47:02 AM
Hi guys,
if anyone here is using fdating.com - what is your average "reply rate" and "moving to Whatsapp \ Skype" rate?  ???

Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Steveboy on April 03, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Hi guys,
if anyone here is using fdating.com - what is your average "reply rate" and "moving to Whatsapp \ Skype" rate?  ???

When it comes to dating it's not much difference to buying a pair of trousers or going to a nice restaurant, you get what you pay for..

Free dating sites are fine, but there are a few drawbacks ..

1. Very little scam protection if any at all.. subscription sites (The genuine ones) give you 24/7 protection..

2. On any FSU sites younger women especially have a pretty short shelf life, you need a big turn over of new sign ups to stop a negative churn rate, as you can imagine some young women in her 30's is going to sign up to any site be it Free or subscription and get the usual bombardment of messages from guys in their 60/70's that's ok for some women, but in general they are gone within a week or two. When it comes to Free dating the case is even worse you have the "old codgers" writing to you the younger women .. BUT wait for it!! You also have hundreds of other guys writing from countries you never heard of or want to hear off, Congo. Tanzania, I can leave the rest to your imagination, most wanting free sex chat and 99.9% not even being able to afford a bowl of rice for dinner, let alone a ticket to meet a women.

3. If your a women signed up to a free site your probably going to find yourself a guy who when it comes to spending money your probably going to be in for a shock.. Burger King will be your night out and you'r probably going to have to pay your own ticket to meet him in his own country, why do you think they are signed up to a free dating site? Of course some will not like this comment BUT it's the truth! I know I have been in the industry a fair few years and as well as knowing the business inside out I also know the phycology of most of the people.. sure there will be a few guys with some cash but generally no!  Your also probably going to be eating the "Supermarket Own brands" when and if you finally marry Bob from the free site.. yes its life and it's the truth..




Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 03:22:27 PM
Asked a simple statistic question - received an advertising campaign in return. Wonderful. Thanks. That's exactly what I wanted!

1. Very little scam protection if any at all.. subscription sites (The genuine ones) give you 24/7 protection..

How does your scam horror applies to female users of free sites, please?

You also have hundreds of other guys writing from countries you never heard of or want to hear off, Congo. Tanzania, I can leave the rest to your imagination, most wanting free sex chat and 99.9% not even being able to afford a bowl of rice for dinner, let alone a ticket to meet a women.

There are filters, where it is possible to mark the countries from which you wish to receive mail. Yes, it takes time to block approx 90% of listed countries, and leaving EU only - but only those who are completely illiterate (technically) will suffer from Afican spam.

3. If you're a woman signed up to a free site, you'll probably going to find yourself a guy who - when it comes to spending money - will probably be in for a shock...  Burger King will be your night out, and you're probably going to have to pay your own ticket to meet him in his own country, why do you think they are signed up to a free dating site? Of course some will not like this comment BUT it's the truth! I know I have been in the industry a fair few years and as well as knowing the business inside out I also know the psychology of most of the people... sure there will be a few guys with some cash but generally no!  You're also probably going to be eating the "Supermarket Own brands" when and if you finally marry Bob from the free site... yes its life and it's the truth...

Ooh you have scared me!  :ROFL:

Till now I have always paid my own flight tickets. That's my modus operandi - if I don't like the way the situation develops, I am changing the return flight date - and bye.   :plane:

As to nights out, and eating "Supermarket own brands" - first I do not need anything fancy (have seen enough 5* hotels and posh restaurants during last 23 years of my gipsy job!); second - if I do not like the products that the man buys, I will do my own grocery shopping where I want; and third - I can even invite a man for a coffee now and then  :chuckle:  If I can't do it, then how can I be considered a partner with equal rights?
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Markje on April 03, 2019, 03:32:46 PM

Till now I have always paid my own flight tickets. That's my modus operandi - if I don't like the way the situation develops, I am changing the return flight date - and bye.   :plane:

As to nights out, and eating "Supermarket own brands" - first I do not need anything fancy (have seen enough 5* hotels and posh restaurants during last 23 years of my gipsy job!); second - if I do not like the products that the man buys, I will do my own grocery shopping where I want; and third - I can even invite a man for a coffee now and then  :chuckle:  If I can't do it, then how can I be considered a partner with equal rights?
Ahh... there she is, i've missed you  :king:
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 03:38:22 PM
Ahh... there she is, i've missed you  :king:

It's nice to be back...  :party0031: Same place, same faces...  :innocent: Nothing really new in our virtual sandpit, or...?  :) Or did we become older and wiser, somehow?
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Manny on April 03, 2019, 03:47:15 PM
Ahh... there she is, i've missed you  :king:

It's nice to be back...  :party0031: Same place, same faces...  :innocent: Nothing really new in our virtual sandpit, or...?  :) Or did we become older and wiser, somehow?

We're all older and wiser now. I think............
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Steveboy on April 03, 2019, 04:29:23 PM
Asked a simple statistic question - received an advertising campaign in return. Wonderful. Thanks. That's exactly what I wanted!

1. Very little scam protection if any at all.. subscription sites (The genuine ones) give you 24/7 protection..

How does your scam horror applies to female users of free sites, please?

You also have hundreds of other guys writing from countries you never heard of or want to hear off, Congo. Tanzania, I can leave the rest to your imagination, most wanting free sex chat and 99.9% not even being able to afford a bowl of rice for dinner, let alone a ticket to meet a women.

There are filters, where it is possible to mark the countries from which you wish to receive mail. Yes, it takes time to block approx 90% of listed countries, and leaving EU only - but only those who are completely illiterate (technically) will suffer from Afican spam.

3. If you're a woman signed up to a free site, you'll probably going to find yourself a guy who - when it comes to spending money - will probably be in for a shock...  Burger King will be your night out, and you're probably going to have to pay your own ticket to meet him in his own country, why do you think they are signed up to a free dating site? Of course some will not like this comment BUT it's the truth! I know I have been in the industry a fair few years and as well as knowing the business inside out I also know the psychology of most of the people... sure there will be a few guys with some cash but generally no!  You're also probably going to be eating the "Supermarket Own brands" when and if you finally marry Bob from the free site... yes its life and it's the truth...

Ooh you have scared me!  :ROFL:

Till now I have always paid my own flight tickets. That's my modus operandi - if I don't like the way the situation develops, I am changing the return flight date - and bye.   :plane:

As to nights out, and eating "Supermarket own brands" - first I do not need anything fancy (have seen enough 5* hotels and posh restaurants during last 23 years of my gipsy job!); second - if I do not like the products that the man buys, I will do my own grocery shopping where I want; and third - I can even invite a man for a coffee now and then  :chuckle:  If I can't do it, then how can I be considered a partner with equal rights?

received an advertising campaign. Don't flatter yourself..You think I really need to sit down and send you or anyone a advertising campaign about benefits of switching from a free site to a paid site..
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 04:33:39 PM
received an advertising campaign. Don't flatter yourself...

You think I really need to sit down and send you or anyone a advertising campaign about benefits of switching from a free site to a paid site...

It has nothing to do with flattering,  :laugh: , but from my point of view that is exactly what you just did: invested a significant amount of your time in promoting your site, and protecting the idea of "paid sites" per se    :biggrin:

I understand that is how you earn your living, but my point of view is not changed: freedom for the free spirits  :party0031:   Occasional idiots make the visits to that virtual zoo even more funny  :)   After all, I need a material to carry on with my "another side of the moon" thread, right?  :8)
Title: Fdating.com reply rate
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 03, 2019, 04:36:55 PM
...and back to fdating.

My current experience is: from 20 initial messages sent maybe 4 would be answered, and out of this 4 maybe 1 conversation will develop to WhatsApp-ing stage.

Wondering if the view from Mars is different from the view from Venus?  :knit:
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: msmoby on April 03, 2019, 05:11:15 PM


We're all older and wiser now. I think............

That's amusing ...  You were a fan of 'Trampu's' once .. !

Then there's 'Brexit' and

Katie Holmes ..
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Omega1982 on April 03, 2019, 05:15:19 PM
May I ask why should we provide this private information to you? 

Are you taking dating statistics?  Last I knew you were a musical promoter and travel agent. 
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 03, 2019, 05:27:25 PM
Здравствуй Ольга, я работал в Москве...I know the expat community there well, Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies...some Europeans.

My age group is younger, late 20's and 30's but I know some guys over 40. 

Я скоро вернусь в Россию, я могу вам помочь.

But the admins took my PM messaging away so I don't have a personal contact.  So if I can contact you somehow or tell Manny to enable my PM again then we can talk further.
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: msmoby on April 03, 2019, 05:38:01 PM
Hi guys,
if anyone here is using fdating.com - what is your average "reply rate" and "moving to Whatsapp \ Skype" rate?  ???

My response is based on 'data' from five years ago..

My profile was 'hard' - "please read my age.. I'm looking for a life partner - not to be father-figure - as I do not seek someone who could be my daughter "

Guess what? ....  75 percent of letters came from ...  ladies young enough to BE my daughter ..

I pointed out that, " I was shallow ( looks are still important )  and sought someone who looked after their body and mind, defo a non-smoker - that's a deal-breaker"

..and that a "reasonable knowledge of English was preferable - as my Russian - though better than most western men - would make you laugh"


I ended up finding ancient profiles of SC - no logins in months and spent over a month trying to track her down via social media

Found her on Odnoklassniki and she responded within 12 hours and we were skyping within 24 hours .. Her English was AWFUL - but at least we'd both been at school together - though quite a few classes apart .. 

Going to Skype was her idea


I was on the site for a month and got 30 plus letters a day  - dropping to 5 / day and THREE ladies wrote to me who had written to me 7 years earlier and two of them didn't remember they had written before !

I tried RussianCupid, dmnotify, Mamba and fdating

Sorry, Steve - didn't know about you !











 

Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on April 03, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
May I ask why should we provide this private information to you? 

Are you taking dating statistics?  Last I knew you were a musical promoter and travel agent.

Chillax,

Olga is not data mining - just curious .. to compare..her experiences

Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 04, 2019, 10:44:35 AM
May I ask why should we provide this private information to you? 

Are you taking dating statistics? 

Last I knew you were a musical promoter and travel agent.

First, i am not considering average response rate on some particular site being a personal information. In my book it rather qualifies as experience - and that's what this forum is about: exchanging experiences!

Second, yes you're right - i'd like to see the stats (and compare other forum members' experiences with mine).

Third, yes i'm in the same business still. Can't really see a contradiction between my professional activities, and the ways i'm using to improve my personal life.
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Confederate on April 04, 2019, 11:27:15 AM


We're all older and wiser now. I think............

That's amusing ...  You were a fan of 'Trampu's' once .. !

Then there's 'Brexit' and

Katie Holmes ..

Proving beyond shadow of a doubt that he is indeed wise and you’re not.

Those who are incapable of challenging govt. controlled spoon fed “conventional wisdom” should not even be able to speak or write, they should go back to pre-school and be home-schooled by their elders.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: 2tallbill on April 04, 2019, 03:44:09 PM
How does your scam horror applies to female users of free sites, please?

It sounds like he works to eliminates the African goat herders who
can't afford a bowl of rice to eat much less a ticket to visit Moscow
and those who only want to sex chat, exchange penis photos etc.

Title: Re: Fdating.com reply rate
Post by: 2tallbill on April 04, 2019, 03:50:44 PM
...and back to fdating.

My current experience is: from 20 initial messages sent maybe 4 would be answered, and out of this 4 maybe 1 conversation will develop to WhatsApp-ing stage.

Wondering if the view from Mars is different from the view from Venus?  :knit:

All my information is old, but my results were similar to yours.
What sort of age spread do you use?

I used 12 years back when I was still hunting.

Title: Re: Fdating.com reply rate
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 04, 2019, 03:56:21 PM
All my information is old, but my results were similar to yours.

Aha...  :reading: Thanks for the info, Bill!

What sort of age spread do you use? I used 12 years back when I was still hunting.
I use +10.
Title: Re: Fdating.com reply rate
Post by: 2tallbill on April 05, 2019, 02:00:56 PM
I use +10.

That probably explains our similar results.

Udachi Miss Mouse!
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Manny on April 05, 2019, 02:58:55 PM
I ended up finding ancient profiles of SC - no logins in months and spent over a month trying to track her down via social media

Found her on Odnoklassniki and she responded within 12 hours and we were skyping within 24 hours .. Her English was AWFUL -

Make a topic on that. Sounds like a great story. I'd like to read it.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on April 05, 2019, 06:50:34 PM
I might when I am considered a good boy.i
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: BillyB on April 06, 2019, 09:45:51 AM

Olga, getting poor response rates at dating/marriage agencies are normal or should be normal. Some profiles are abandoned and the people there won't respond. Some people won't like how we look or find us incompatible based on what we say in our intro letter.

I've seen men claim they have near a 100% response rate and think it's all real. Either they look like Brad Pitt or they are using questionable agencies.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Steveboy on April 07, 2019, 10:31:28 AM

Olga, getting poor response rates at dating/marriage agencies are normal or should be normal. Some profiles are abandoned and the people there won't respond. Some people won't like how we look or find us incompatible based on what we say in our intro letter.

I've seen men claim they have near a 100% response rate and think it's all real. Either they look like Brad Pitt or they are using questionable agencies.

Either they look like Brad Pitt That is 100% correct there are some very good looking guys who seem to have good jobs and every thing going for them, often in their 40/50's and yes they certainly get piles of letters and interest from all of the women..

For some of these guys you can see they should have NO problem finding a good women, but unfortunately most of these guys will be stuck on a web site for many years 3/4/5 years
and in fact seldom find someone .. yes it is true!!

It is called the "Candy shop effect"

They sign up get bombarded with messages from lots of nice ladies but are never satisfied with who they are chatting with, one day it is beautiful Olga 38 from Moscow, then along comes beautiful Karina 36 from St Petersburg, Olga from Moscow who he's been chatting with a few days is "Dropped" like a ton of shit..

And so it goes on for months, even years..

They will travel to Moscow to meet Irina 35 who they will love to bits BUT when they get home they have a message from Natalya 32 from Kazan.. that is how it works out for many good looking guys..




Title: updated list of sites
Post by: 2tallbill on April 07, 2019, 04:32:02 PM

Olga, getting poor response rates at dating/marriage agencies are normal or should be normal. Some profiles are abandoned and the people there won't respond. Some people won't like how we look or find us incompatible based on what we say in our intro letter.

I've seen men claim they have near a 100% response rate and think it's all real. Either they look like Brad Pitt or they are using questionable agencies.

Sounds like pay per letter site results.


Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 08, 2019, 05:37:58 AM
Olga, getting poor response rates at dating/marriage agencies are normal or should be normal. Some profiles are abandoned and the people there won't respond. Some people won't like how we look or find us incompatible based on what we say in our intro letter.

I've seen men claim they have near a 100% response rate and think it's all real. Either they look like Brad Pitt or they are using questionable agencies.

Bill, I know that's pretty normal - and there even is a Russian saying "I am not a 100  :money: banknote to be liked by everybody". I was rather wondering about statistics and the results other forum members are getting  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Fdating.com: your average reply rate?
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 08, 2019, 05:47:15 AM
My profile was 'hard' - "please read my age...  I'm looking for a life partner - not to be father-figure - as I do not seek someone who could be my daughter"

Mine is even harder, I guess: a typical Muscovite, with university degree and own business, slightly tired of jet-setting during last 20 years. Cooking is not my strong point.

THREE ladies wrote to me who had written to me 7 years earlier, and two of them didn't remember they had written before!
Well, I also wouldn't have remembered someone whom I wrote 7 years ago - unless this communication had evolved (back then) to the real meeting.

I tried RussianCupid, dmnotify, Mamba and fdating
Nearly the same (except from dmnotify - what's that? Need to investigate...)
Russian Cupid (ex "Russian Euro") now has also introduced paid membership?  :-\
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 08, 2019, 05:51:13 AM
Здравствуй Ольга, я работал в Москве...I know the expat community there well, Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies... some Europeans.
Aiming at EU solely.

Я скоро вернусь в Россию, я могу вам помочь.
I can't recall asking anyone here - and you personally - for help?  (:)

But the admins took my PM messaging away so I don't have a personal contact. 
So if I can contact you somehow or tell Manny to enable my PM again then we can talk further.
Guile, I haven't been active on the forum for a few years - have no time to read all your posts trying to figure out who you are, and what do you want.
BUT I do know Manny for 12 years, and I am sure that if he has blocked PM function for you - he had a reason (or a few) to do it.
So I would rather trust his judgement.
Thank you for understanding.  tiphat

Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Markje on April 08, 2019, 06:47:16 AM
Back when I was still dating, I used mostly small local sites that knew their members well.

I targetted from -5 to +5 age group and got nearly 2 -3 out of every 5 women to reply. 1 reply would be a polite turn-down and the others couldn't be bothered to write back. I also didn't write profiles that had more than 2 months as 'last reply/login'.

In the end, it was a small agency that landed me success too, the larger ones (both dutch and russian oriented) never worked out for me.
Lena was -6 to my age but people that knew her said i should write her anyway. She later became my wife and now we have 2 sons together.

Mark.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 08, 2019, 12:21:05 PM

Aiming at EU solely.

I can't recall asking anyone here - and you personally - for help?  (:)


ok ни пуха ни пера...careful with those European guys though...I have many Russian friends who dated them, French, Italian, German...usually it ended badly.  But 1 or 2 got married!

Just read that you are over 40 years old.  So I couldn't help in any case as my social circle is 20's and 30's.


Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Steveboy on April 08, 2019, 11:03:34 PM

Aiming at EU solely.

I can't recall asking anyone here - and you personally - for help?  (:)


ok ни пуха ни пера...careful with those European guys though...I have many Russian friends who dated them, French, Italian, German...usually it ended badly.  But 1 or 2 got married!

Just read that you are over 40 years old.  So I couldn't help in any case as my social circle is 20's and 30's.

Also remember lots of those European guys are really weird! I mean they are into all sorts of things  :ROFL:
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 08, 2019, 11:54:36 PM

Also remember lots of those European guys are really weird! I mean they are into all sorts of things  :ROFL:

the French are the weirdest..just arrogant ppl with no regard.  Brits are ok but can be quirky.  I can think of 1 or 2 on this board  :ROFL:

steveboy you're from the UK right...well, you seem pretty normal.  In the end it's the individual.

Russians actually are cool in general.  I get along well with most of them.
Title: Steveboy's picture of European men
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 09, 2019, 12:18:18 AM
Also remember lots of those European guys are really weird!

Steveboy, was your comment addressed to me? Just for your information: I have spent half of my life on tours, traveling across the whole globe for job, having my own business during last 6 years, and working primarily on the international level now. I know nearly every corner of Europe, and I love it. No need to share your US-based point of view about European men with a European woman, really! Investing your time in promoting your agency's services will bring you more profit, I suppose.

I mean they are into all sorts of things  :ROFL:
As well as Americans, Brits, Japanese, Australians, and so on. Or you really think there is a nation where men are into just one "sort of things"? If this is your real point of view, I recommend you to communicate more with real people from different countries, instead of focusing on your US neighbours only. Communication can enrich your knowledge of human nature, IMO.
Title: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 09, 2019, 12:22:17 AM
ok ни пуха ни пера... careful with those European guys though... I have many Russian friends who dated them, French, Italian, German... usually it ended badly.  But 1 or 2 got married!
That's funny how you americans react when someone doesn't find your country, lifestyle and mentality attractive  :chuckle:  You guys are so much used to see yourselves as the center of the world, that the bare idea that someone might not share your opinion hurts your egos extremely  :chuckle:

Just read that you are over 40 years old.  So I couldn't help in any case as my social circle is 20's and 30's.
Yes, I'm 46, and not interested in dating kids  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 12:44:14 AM

That's funny how you americans react when someone doesn't find your country, lifestyle and mentality attractive  :chuckle:  You guys are so much used to see yourselves as the center of the world, that the bare idea that someone might not share your opinion hurts your egos extremely  :chuckle:

Yes, I'm 46, and not interested in dating kids  :ROFL:

Olga, I have dual residency and am an ethnic minority.  If you saw/talked to me you would never guess I am American. 

My ancestors are from a country that is emerging fast as the centre of the world, no not USA but the Middle Kingdom.  I have lived in North America, England, France, Italy, Russia, Asia and speak 4 languages including Russian although it is my weakest.

See how much assuming you made from an online forum?   :laugh:

As for your age I can't help you there.  You have been on this forum for 12 years and couldn't find a guy?!  Maybe you do need help after all. 

Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 01:07:56 AM
Olga btw, how long have you lived in America?  Probably not as long as I have lived in Russia.
Title: Re: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 09, 2019, 02:38:43 AM
As for your age I can't help you there. 
:ROFL: That's one of the funniest phrases I've lately read! Help with my age? What can it possibly be? A time machine to make me look younger, while keeping all my life experience? Or an offer to fake the date of birth in my passport? Just curious  :chuckle:   That's truly interesting to look into the brain of an individual who can come to an idea, that somebody else might possibly need "help with an age"  :laugh:

You have been on this forum for 12 years and couldn't find a guy?! 
I have always considered that forum as place for improving my English and exchanging opinions, not as a hunting area.

Maybe you do need help after all.
I am a self-made woman and proud of it  :knit:  No help needed, really - but thanks for offering anyway  :laugh:
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 09, 2019, 02:41:55 AM
Olga btw, how long have you lived in America? Probably not as long as I have lived in Russia.

Guile, the destiny was merciful to me - I have never lived in America  :thumbsup:  Two business-projects (one in NY, one in LA) have sufficed to cement the point of view, based on previous communications with US-citizens: I do not like this country  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 02:52:57 AM
As for your age I can't help you there. 

 :ROFL: That's one of the funniest phrases I've lately read! Help with my age? What can it possibly be? A time machine to make me look younger, while keeping all my life experience? Or an offer to fake the date of birth in my passport? Just curious  :chuckle:   That's truly interesting to look into the brain of an individual who can come to an idea, that somebody else might possibly need "help with an age"  :laugh:


English is still your 2nd language and you misread what I meant.  Not making yourself look younger but the age group which you are targeting. 

As I am a good decade younger my social circle in Moscow and in general tend to all be people under 40. 

You are looking for men 45 and over of which I know none...Wiz and Moby on the other hand might know a few suitable ones  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: rosco on April 09, 2019, 02:56:31 AM
As for your age I can't help you there. 
:ROFL: That's one of the funniest phrases I've lately read! Help with my age? What can it possibly be? A time machine to make me look younger, while keeping all my life experience? Or an offer to fake the date of birth in my passport? Just curious  :chuckle:   That's truly interesting to look into the brain of an individual who can come to an idea, that somebody else might possibly need "help with an age"  :laugh:

You have been on this forum for 12 years and couldn't find a guy?! 
I have always considered that forum as place for improving my English and exchanging opinions, not as a hunting area.

Maybe you do need help after all.
I am a self-made woman and proud of it  :knit:  No help needed, really - but thanks for offering anyway  :laugh:

You're a sharp cookie Olga, I like your style!  tiphat
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 03:00:57 AM
Olga btw, how long have you lived in America? Probably not as long as I have lived in Russia.

Guile, the destiny was merciful to me - I have never lived in America  :thumbsup:  Two business-projects (one in NY, one in LA) have sufficed to cement the point of view, based on previous communications with US-citizens: I do not like this country  :biggrin:

So you visited NY and LA and didn't like it. No biggie.  I lived in Moscow and even as the biggest, most modern city in Russia it can't hold a candle to either NY or LA.  Truth. 

What you are saying is that you don't like American people, not the country. Big difference. 
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 03:11:25 AM
Olga you got a chip on your shoulder that's blocking your view.  Quoting one of my favourite philosophers "It is like a finger pointing to the moon...don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory."
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Olga_Mouse on April 09, 2019, 05:05:21 AM
So you visited NY and LA and didn't like it. No biggie. 
Exactly.

I lived in Moscow and even as the biggest, most modern city in Russia it can't hold a candle to either NY or LA.  Truth.
Nope. That's not the ultimate truth, but your own point of view, based on your personal system of values. But to each his own - we're all free people here, and anyone shall choose what fits for him \ her  :)

What you are saying is that you don't like American people, not the country. Big difference.
If by "country" you mean nature and the richness of different landscapes - then I do like the country, as much as any other territory with such a diversity.  As to american people... no, don't like their attitude in many cases; their lack of style (no matter if applicable to clothing or to interior design); overwhelming obesity; being narrow-minded is praised; terrible eating habits; prices are displayed without tax; air conditions everywhere; dirt everywhere (no matter if Terminal 1 in JFK, roadsides, or on the plates at the breakfast buffet in 4* Marriott Hotel). And many, many more things... So NO, thank you.

I surely can admit that there are people who feel well in America, or maybe even want to move there. To each his own, as said above...
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on April 09, 2019, 05:08:35 AM
Sting123,

WHY are you telling people you 'lived' in the UK ?

You might like to check your v.own posts ..

Reality and your need to 'fit' seem to be in conflict ...



Title: Re: Guile's American ego badly hurt
Post by: Lord of the Dance on April 09, 2019, 08:52:19 AM
Yes, I'm 46, and not interested in dating kids  :ROFL:

Just as a side note, do be aware that some younger people are more mature than average (and conversely, some older folks are quite immature). But with that said, I do think dating within your own age bracket is a wise choice.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 11:29:41 AM

WHY are you telling people you 'lived' in the UK ?

You might like to check your v.own posts ..

Reality and your need to 'fit' seem to be in conflict ...

moby, unlike you I actually tell the truth.  Last I checked London is part of the UK. Worked and lived there for almost a year.  Still have my work visa in my old passport and stamp dates in and out of Heathrow/Gatwick.

Tell me, how many times have you been in Russia the past 5 years?  Do you have the Russian visas to prove it?  It ain't cheap applying for one every few months if you say you've been there as often as you have.

Everyone here calls you a constant, perpetual liar. Don't try to "swerve" and lie again.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Bruce Lee on April 09, 2019, 01:52:28 PM
Quoting one of my favourite philosophers "It is like a finger pointing to the moon...don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory."
Quit quoting Bruce there big fella, I’ve trade marked that one :-X
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 03:08:32 PM
Quoting one of my favourite philosophers "It is like a finger pointing to the moon...don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory."
Quit quoting Bruce there big fella, I’ve trade marked that one :-X

Seeing as my ancestral lineage is from Bruce's hometown and I speak his native language, not to mention I trained in JKD...I'm pretty sure I got more rights to quote him than you!  ;D  Now empty your mind, be formless, shapeless..like water.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Guile on April 09, 2019, 03:13:45 PM
Be water my friend :8)
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: dcguyusa on April 09, 2019, 05:08:58 PM
Quote
As to american people... no, don't like their attitude in many cases; their lack of style (no matter if applicable to clothing or to interior design); overwhelming obesity; being narrow-minded is praised; terrible eating habits; prices are displayed without tax; air conditions everywhere; dirt everywhere (no matter if Terminal 1 in JFK, roadsides, or on the plates at the breakfast buffet in 4* Marriott Hotel).

Not being a native born person in the USA, here are my comments about this statement.

Lack of style -  No comment since I have none.   :chuckle:
Obesity -  this was not that prevalent when I was very young.  The food manufacturers may be to blame for this.
Narrow minded - people with similar opinions tend to bolster each other. Empaths are rare in any society.
Eating habits - If this is in reference to the daily diet, then the obesity statement also applies here.
Prices without tax -  this is actually a ploy to make the purchaser think that what they are getting is less than the actual total cost.  Also since some states in this country have state sales tax, sellers tend to separate the state sales tax charge for easier accounting tabulations.  Classic example is the rental car total billing statement which is itemized by type of charges (base charge plus many miscellaneous fees).
Air conditioning everywhere - A/C was non-existent before the 20th century.  This is an attempt to moderate the climate where extreme temperatures can occur.  Without it, hypothermia and heat stroke deaths would increase dramatically.
Dirt everywhere  -  This is a symptom of most urban areas.  However, there are exceptions such as Singapore where you get "caned" for throwing a wad of gum on the street.  In this case, the country needs to enforce anti-littering rules and "beat the crap" out of dissenters.   :chuckle:

What? Dirt on a Marriott breakfast buffet plate?  As a former dishwasher myself (hand washed), many of the cleaning work now is done by machines.  Automation is the future.  So if something gets overlooked, well, that's how the cookie crumbles.   :chuckle:
Title: updated list of sites
Post by: 2tallbill on April 10, 2019, 03:06:21 PM
Free dating sites are fine, but there are a few drawbacks ..

The original topic was "updated list of sites" I'm sure that you have one
that you recommend and provide everyone a link for?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Manny on April 17, 2019, 09:43:45 AM
Free dating sites are fine, but there are a few drawbacks ..

The original topic was "updated list of sites" I'm sure that you have one
that you recommend and provide everyone a link for?

You mean Steve’s site: www.bridesandlovers.com ?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Steveboy on April 17, 2019, 01:10:25 PM
Free dating sites are fine, but there are a few drawbacks ..

The original topic was "updated list of sites" I'm sure that you have one
that you recommend and provide everyone a link for?

You mean Steve’s site: www.bridesandlovers.com ?


 :thumbsup:  Yes always be careful when searching for a Russian or Ukrainian women and use one of the trusted sites  https://bridesandlovers.com/legitimate-ukrainian-datingsite (https://bridesandlovers.com/legitimate-ukrainian-datingsite) .. and remember you always get what you pay for...




Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrewfi on May 03, 2019, 05:22:43 AM
Because it is almost inevitable that when a first time poster drops a link to some random mail order Bride site then it is a spam link from some amateur link spammer.

Are you different? Tell us, how did you get on with your 'dating' of Ukrainian women. What was different to your previous dating experiences?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: AvHdB on May 03, 2019, 06:55:43 AM
My issue was the 'advice' from said site. It runs counter to common sense and what many members here have experienced and done.

My suggestion read travel reports here and ask questions.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: dcguyusa on May 03, 2019, 03:46:31 PM
Quote
The main advantage of joining this site is that it offers a strong anti-scam policy.

All of the paid sites have this policy, but that does not mean that fake or insincere profiles are not listed there.  Nobody can give you a blanket 100% genuine individual all of the time.  Just as when you go to eat a restaurant and expect the food to be perfect every time.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: Steveboy on May 04, 2019, 01:19:25 AM
it's just a scam blog fro "Victoria brides" A absolute pile of shit.. 100% fake for every women, they will take your cash and once they have your card details they will debit money from your card without authorization..

This outfit constantly make profiles in my web sites with ridiculously fake women, just the sort of women muppets like  :laugh:

But good news is on the horizon as well as the PPL and pay for credit sites coming to an end soon, legislation will put an end to it,, Credit card companies will also finish most off in the near future, these sites have a terrible "Chargeback" reputations and use third party card processors .. no one will offer them card processing services soon..

https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/insight/editorial/guest-post-incoming-visa-regulations-to-impact-dating-industry-companies/

The days are numbered..
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on July 20, 2019, 02:50:23 AM
In the UK are there easier ways to meet FSU women there instead of traveling to FSU?

Are there dating sites for UK guys to meet FSU women in the UK?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on July 20, 2019, 04:06:54 AM
My info may be over 5 years out of date...


FDating.com,   dmnotify.com...


You can choose to search by nation and language...

Why do you wish to avoid dating non UK resident FSU ladies ?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrewfi on July 20, 2019, 05:16:53 AM
In the UK are there easier ways to meet FSU women there instead of traveling to FSU?

Are there dating sites for UK guys to meet FSU women in the UK?

Mamba.ru works quite well. Depending upon your location you might need to pay for VIP membership - but it is worth paying for anyway!
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrew99 on July 20, 2019, 05:42:37 AM
In the UK are there easier ways to meet FSU women there instead of traveling to FSU?

Are there dating sites for UK guys to meet FSU women in the UK?

Mamba.ru works quite well. Depending upon your location you might need to pay for VIP membership - but it is worth paying for anyway!

ok this is a large website as i thought there might be niche markets for the UK with Brexit
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on July 20, 2019, 06:10:09 AM

Mamba.ru works quite well. Depending upon your location you might need to pay for VIP membership - but it is worth paying for anyway!

ok this is a large website as i thought there might be niche markets for the UK with Brexit
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 :ROFL:

Mamba.ru ... are you being serious ?   The guy is presumably not looking to hook up with professional pleasure makers
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: MBS01 on July 20, 2019, 03:30:34 PM
I got curious and started reading this topic from the beginning.  The funny part is the original FREE SITE quoted did and I expect still works rather well.  It is almost 17 years since I first wrote to my lovely wife Lora through it!  We met up about a month later in Ukraine.  Then like a number of other past and present posters married in Ukraine almost 16 years ago before she moved to Canada 15 years ago.  My how time flies!!!

So for the record said FREE SITE does and has worked well for us and others over the years as well.  Perhaps not for everyone but why not try it and see where it leads you could be one of the winners in this adventure.  Back 18 or so years ago did travel to both Russia and Ukraine.  Even now there are in-laws in both countries that we continue to visit.

Great that this makes my 1,000th. Post on RUA as I could not think of a better topic to write about for this number.

So take care and do enjoy this adventure however you do it.
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: andrewfi on July 20, 2019, 03:52:36 PM
Moby, go get a job or go do some bizniz instead of coming out with even more sh!t.

It is fine for you to mislead your 'customers' and 'contacts' but let's keep it at that, eh?
Title: Re: updated list of sites
Post by: msmoby on July 20, 2019, 05:41:09 PM
Moby, go get a job or go do some bizniz instead of coming out with even more sh!t.

It is fine for you to mislead your 'customers' and 'contacts' but let's keep it at that, eh?

Tut. tut, Fifi

Raw nerve, struck ?..


What sort of dinosaur 'recommends' Mamba?

Now THAT is really is misleading folks ...