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Title: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 06:13:26 AM
Hi, 4 month a go I met (online) a woman from Kiev, she should come here in 2 weeks (with her money) but I have a lot of doubts about her.
Just to probe her after a month I asked her: "I know is a delicate matter, something I don't like to discuss freely except with my partner but what do you think about sex?"

Here are her answers (translated with google):

of course, I also think about sex, and I know that you and I have come to this, too. In truth, I thought that might now better to talk about it with you, so you know our preferences. If you want to? I am not opposed to discuss it. That's what you like and do not like in bed? What are you in bed, you are dominant, or do you like it when a girl takes the initiative?

Yes, sex - is a game between two lovers. I would have liked to flirt with you and thereby give you to understand that I want to have sex with you. I think that such flirting is one of the best that can be before sex. This is a state where you know that soon it will happen. It gets crazy! What do you think about that? I also think that sex is important to think not only about themselves but also about their partner. Ideally, when two people get pleasure. Then sex is really lovely. Do you like oral sex?

I like oral sex. So as much as I like and normal. I do not understand those couples who refuse it. After oral sex makes people closer. After all, when you love a person, and when he you care about, what's the difference how to please him, and in what place? What do you think, my dear? Oh, I could flirt with you. The restaurant I would put your hand on the reed and held up to. Or I would have shot you in the eyes and gestures would be that I want to immediately be with you in one bed. I hope you do not mind that?

You lived in me the idea of sex and now I can not stop thinking about it. You did this on purpose, to be honest? Today I even had a wet dream in which you participated. Action dream happened in my apartment. The bell rang and I went to open the door. On the threshold of my apartment was you and you was holding a bottle of either wine, or champagne. And a box of chocolates was! Then immediately we were in bed. My cunning brain decided to skip the part where we're drinking and talking. Immediately I went to the fun! I dreamed that you lozhishsya on top of me, starts kissing my neck and my chest, and then I feel as you enter into me. God, it was so exciting. In the morning I woke up and, unfortunately, discovered that you were not around! You dream today something of such things?

What do you think about this answers?
At first I thought she was a he but then I met her on Skype.
It could be that she wanted to probe me like I did with her?
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Tom Cat on December 18, 2015, 06:23:45 AM
It's not normal for a woman that you have not met in person to be so graphic.

Doesn't look good, don't be surprised if she's robbed on the way to the airport,and needs you to send money.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 06:28:02 AM
Well I suppose IF she's real what is wrong with it. I mean you don't want to get to the bedroom and have to hire a translator to stay under your bed do you? Or it may be a little awkward halfway through some sexual fantasy to see how it may end without using Google translate.  :laugh:

If she's real, I mean not after something , get on in there!! Just remember the most important thing! When it comes to Shopping YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!! Of course unless you had a good night before with her in which case you may feel like treating her :smoking:

But for sure nothing wrong with a women you have come to know writing something like that.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 06:29:36 AM
It's not normal for a woman that you have not met in person to be so graphic.

Doesn't look good, don't be surprised if she's robbed on the way to the airport,and needs you to send money.

A women being so graphic can depend! If its a young women why not?? Of course I would expect it to be normal with some 50 year old babushka  :laugh:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 06:34:18 AM
Personally I think 24/48 hours before she arrives there will be some problem requiring financial assistance (A little like the RAC in the UK)
Let us know  :)
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 06:45:48 AM
Rubbish, this a scammer no decent woman would type such drivel and no right-minded bloke would believe it.

Sex comes naturally when the time is right thought interactions, ennui and nuance. Not this shite.

Bin her.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 06:51:10 AM
Rubbish, this a scammer no decent woman would type such drivel and no right-minded bloke would believe it.

Sex comes naturally when the time is right thought interactions, ennui and nuance. Not this shite.

Bin her.

Your probably old and past it! Are you saying if your communicating with a young sexy women the question of sex and what you like to do in bed doesn't arise?? Of course it is something for discussion!!

But yes I think this women will show her cards in 12 days time :laugh:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 06:54:48 AM
Rubbish, this a scammer no decent woman would type such drivel and no right-minded bloke would believe it.

Sex comes naturally when the time is right thought interactions, ennui and nuance. Not this shite.

Bin her.

Your probably old and past it! Are you saying if your communicating with a young sexy women the question of sex and what you like to do in bed doesn't arise?? Of course it is something for discussion!!

But yes I think this women will show her cards in 12 days time :laugh:

I'm 55 and not past it!

I like rumpy-pumpy just like any male but alluding to sexual relations without ever having met is a bit rich. The poor woman might be up for it but what if the OP is fugly as they come? Pics are ok but F2F is what it'll about.

This sort of thing is fine if there is a relationship but here there isn't. 

Who else's member is she dreaming of having inside her? the Agency owner's?  :8) :8)
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 07:02:24 AM
Hi, 4 month a go I met (online) a woman from Kiev, she should come here in 2 weeks (with her money) but I have a lot of doubts about her.
Just to probe her after a month I asked her: "I know is a delicate matter, something I don't like to discuss freely except with my partner but what do you think about sex?"

Here are her answers (translated with google):

of course, I also think about sex, and I know that you and I have come to this, too. In truth, I thought that might now better to talk about it with you, so you know our preferences. If you want to? I am not opposed to discuss it. That's what you like and do not like in bed? What are you in bed, you are dominant, or do you like it when a girl takes the initiative?

Yes, sex - is a game between two lovers. I would have liked to flirt with you and thereby give you to understand that I want to have sex with you. I think that such flirting is one of the best that can be before sex. This is a state where you know that soon it will happen. It gets crazy! What do you think about that? I also think that sex is important to think not only about themselves but also about their partner. Ideally, when two people get pleasure. Then sex is really lovely. Do you like oral sex?

I like oral sex. So as much as I like and normal. I do not understand those couples who refuse it. After oral sex makes people closer. After all, when you love a person, and when he you care about, what's the difference how to please him, and in what place? What do you think, my dear? Oh, I could flirt with you. The restaurant I would put your hand on the reed and held up to. Or I would have shot you in the eyes and gestures would be that I want to immediately be with you in one bed. I hope you do not mind that?

You lived in me the idea of sex and now I can not stop thinking about it. You did this on purpose, to be honest? Today I even had a wet dream in which you participated. Action dream happened in my apartment. The bell rang and I went to open the door. On the threshold of my apartment was you and you was holding a bottle of either wine, or champagne. And a box of chocolates was! Then immediately we were in bed. My cunning brain decided to skip the part where we're drinking and talking. Immediately I went to the fun! I dreamed that you lozhishsya on top of me, starts kissing my neck and my chest, and then I feel as you enter into me. God, it was so exciting. In the morning I woke up and, unfortunately, discovered that you were not around! You dream today something of such things?

What do you think about this answers?
At first I thought she was a he but then I met her on Skype.
It could be that she wanted to probe me like I did with her?

Can you post your photo here and hers ? Will be able to give you a good answer very soon , if your worried about anyone seeing your photo there is an option here to make it "Self-destruct " after 6 hours  :)
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 07:07:52 AM
She's not mentioned anal though, one is not a real man without having had a bit of brown on his sword......
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Tom Cat on December 18, 2015, 07:14:14 AM
Not too many women in Ukraine have to fund their own trip just to get laid.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 07:42:49 AM
She's not mentioned anal though, one is not a real man without having had a bit of brown on his sword......

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Tom Cat on December 18, 2015, 07:47:41 AM
I've read your other posts, and looks like you are being taken by a scammer. You have already spent a good amount for translation.
You should have been able to communicate with the help of Google at no cost.
The odds of her arrival to you are zero, so don't get too caught up in the fantasy.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 07:55:47 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:27:47 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:31:55 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

Where did you meet these women ? My wife is on holiday fro two weeks soon  :laugh:

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:32:05 AM
Can you post your photo here and hers ? Will be able to give you a good answer very soon , if your worried about anyone seeing your photo there is an option here to make it "Self-destruct " after 6 hours  :)

Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:32:40 AM
Where did you meet these women ? My wife is on holiday fro two weeks soon  :laugh:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:33:38 AM
Can you post your photo here and hers ? Will be able to give you a good answer very soon , if your worried about anyone seeing your photo there is an option here to make it "Self-destruct " after 6 hours  :)

She's a fake for sure! Where did you meet the suka ?
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Bruce Lee on December 18, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
FWIW I met my now wife the same way (holiday destination, she paid for her ticket etc) the only real difference was it was in a visa free country and she didn't butter me up with sex talk prior to our meeting!

This whole story is red flag overload - if you are prepared to drop everything if the money request appears on departure day then all's good - if not me thinks you'll be our first scam victim of the new year!!!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:34:31 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

Where did you meet these women ? My wife is on holiday fro two weeks soon  :laugh:

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex
Tell me wher do you met your wife and I'll tell you where I met those women  :ROFL:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 09:35:25 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex

Have you ever kissed a girl, Son?
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
FWIW I met my now wife the same way (holiday destination, she paid for her ticket etc) the only real difference was it was in a visa free country and she didn't butter me up with sex talk prior to our meeting!

This whole story is red flag overload - if you are prepared to drop everything if the money request appears on departure day then all's good - if not me thinks you'll be our first scam victim of the new year!!!

I don't expect nothing
If she don't come or ask for money I quit
I have already other plan ;)
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex

Have you ever kissed a girl, Son?
Yes, I'm 41
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:37:14 AM
she will be sending you lots of letters like that now probably just to get you in the mood for it, you will probably go and buy some new thong or something to look good in the bedroom for her :chuckle:
Every day you will be getting more and more excited, two days before she arrives you will not be able to think straight and have a job holding yourself back :chuckle:
Then the bombe shell will come  :( She missed her flight and loves you dearly, can you send here $1000 Western Union asap so she can get to you! She has no money left after spending t on flights to meet you and a whole new wardrobe of sexy underwear :ROFL:

What happens next is ?

Where did you meet these women ? My wife is on holiday fro two weeks soon  :laugh:

This is what I expect even if she was very caution, no other mail like that, no sexi picture, no promises,  no "love" words.
But since another woman probe me speaking about sex I'd like to know if is normal for some women to probe men speaking about sex
Tell me wher do you met your wife and I'll tell you where I met those women  :ROFL:

I met my wife at a club about five years ago :)
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 09:37:35 AM
Is she a red head called Antonia (Antonina) who is 36?
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:39:59 AM
Is she a red head called Antonia (Antonina) who is 36?

yes
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: TomT on December 18, 2015, 09:40:30 AM
Where did you meet the suka ?

youandme-we.com
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 09:42:58 AM
Where did you meet the suka ?

youandme-we.com

http://scamsurvivors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39384

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Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 09:43:34 AM
Is she a red head called Antonia (Antonina) who is 36?

yes

Come on Stu, how u do it! I googled bits from the OP but no luck!!!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:44:42 AM
You see there is no help for some people!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: OberstDanjeje on December 18, 2015, 09:45:35 AM
Where did you meet the suka ?

youandme-we.com

http://scamsurvivors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39384


(Attachment Link)

It was my report
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 09:46:16 AM
Is she a red head called Antonia (Antonina) who is 36?

yes

Come on Stu, how u do it! I googled bits from the OP but no luck!!!

 :king:

I think Tom got there at the same time. Bloody hell we are good here..........
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 09:47:02 AM
You see there is no help for some people!

I'm losing my touch, I could out these women easily at one time!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
Where did you meet the suka ?

youandme-we.com

http://scamsurvivors.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39384

(Attachment Link)

There are some beautiful actually many women like this, but they SURE wouldn't be interested in some foreigner for marriage . A women like that would get all she wants and more in Russia! She would have no need for some cheap iPhone sent to her or anything else!

Its Friday night and Im off out soon to a bar full of beauties , turn up there and flash your passport about they will just laugh at you!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: TomT on December 18, 2015, 09:49:05 AM
Google images doesn't get any hits on her photos, though.

The problem with trying to detect a scam is that there is a lot of variation between girls and, in their frustration because of guys who don't show up, some they try to seduce a guy into making the trip. Men who are deeply involved in this pursuit go through a learning process but, in the end, they get to the point where they realize that they don't know anything at all.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Google images doesn't get any hits on her photos, though.

Probably screenshotted and cropped.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 10:00:00 AM
Another Russian bride hunter bites the dust!!!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Ste on December 18, 2015, 10:01:27 AM
Another Ukrainian bride hunter bites the dust!!!

FTFY!!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 18, 2015, 10:03:50 AM
Another Ukrainian bride hunter bites the dust!!!

FTFY!!

aaaa well yes Ukrainian bride hunters usually bite the dust much faster but not until they have lost $100000000000000000000**************************************************
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: TomT on December 18, 2015, 10:08:31 AM
The OP might as well wait for the money-request. It's a lot easier to move on if one has closure.

In general, communication through email and messaging is very limited because one gets no non-verbal cues about a person. To compensate for this, we create images to fill in the blanks and often mislead ourselves. The sooner that people move communication to Skype (or to a similar service), the better. Of course, corresponding through a translator is even worse because the relationship has more to do with the translator than with the girl in the photos.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: andrewfi on December 18, 2015, 11:39:55 AM
Well, you broached the topic so to castigate her for an open response seems rather unfair to me.

If one does not want to talk about it then don't bring it up.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: yankee on December 18, 2015, 12:00:55 PM
Well, you broached the topic so to castigate her for an open response seems rather unfair to me.

If one does not want to talk about it then don't bring it up.

I agree with Andrew.  Not many FSU Women care to talk about sex online.  My wife had the courage to ask me not to talk about sex the first contact we had.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 18, 2015, 12:47:37 PM

I agree with Andrew.  Not many FSU Women care to talk about sex online.  My wife had the courage to ask me not to talk about sex the first contact we had.


Your joint comments prove neither of you know much about women, in general..

OF COURSE, many FSU women endure STUPID guys who think waving their 'friend' on camera is a 'turn on'... but one can talk about sex in a way that makes one's next time together so much more interesting..

Jeez, some of you guys lack imagination

Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 01:46:48 PM
OF COURSE, many FSU women endure STUPID guys who think waving their 'friend' on camera is a 'turn on'...

The ones you know might.

I cant imagine any normal thinking woman I know who would want some strange bloke she doesn't know waving his todger at her on a webcam.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 18, 2015, 01:55:04 PM

OF COURSE, many FSU women endure STUPID guys who think waving their 'friend' on camera is a 'turn on'...

The ones you know might.

I cant imagine any normal thinking woman I know who would want some strange bloke she doesn't know waving his todger at her on a webcam.

As you keep saying, but proving to the contrary ..English isn't difficult when you get the hang of it...

Buy 'thanks' for the affirmation - after the 'insult'  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: AJ on December 18, 2015, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: Steveboy

There are some beautiful actually many women like this, but they SURE wouldn't be interested in some foreigner for marriage . A women like that would get all she wants and more in Russia! She would have no need for some cheap iPhone sent to her or anything else!

Its Friday night and Im off out soon to a bar full of beauties , turn up there and flash your passport about they will just laugh at you!

I agree it's scam.

 I would note that the premise that's its scam based merely on how attractive the woman is seems flawed.
 Stating basically that no woman as attractive as this, would look for a foreigner to marry, is a tad over reaching.

The general  female population , no matter where they reside on the attractiveness scale,  are not  looking for a foreigner to marry.

The ones that may, fall all across the attractiveness scale as well.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 18, 2015, 04:01:49 PM

OF COURSE, many FSU women endure STUPID guys who think waving their 'friend' on camera is a 'turn on'...

The ones you know might.

I cant imagine any normal thinking woman I know who would want some strange bloke she doesn't know waving his todger at her on a webcam.

As you keep saying, but proving to the contrary ..English isn't difficult when you get the hang of it...

Buy 'thanks' for the affirmation - after the 'insult'  :coffeeread:

I understand my language quite well.

BTW, I would say once rather than when. Just saying......

If American, you might say when you have gotten instead.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: TomT on December 18, 2015, 06:14:05 PM
If American, you might say when you have gotten instead.

The few Americans who are aware of the past perfect tense might understand that it only applies to an action that is completely finished, prior to some other action. In the case of someone who writes as if he has spent his entire life in a dank ghetto, the action (getting the hang of English) is unlikely to be finished... ever.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 18, 2015, 09:10:06 PM

I understand my language quite well.

 :chuckle: Aha, a Manny deflection..  :chuckle: To remind you - you managed to AGREE with what I said - yet also suggested the 'women I might know' wouldn't be repulsed by the behaviour we abhor...  :chuckle:

BTW, I would say once rather than when. Just saying......

If American, you might say when you have gotten instead.

In the 'dank ghetto' from where I originate - either is understood to mean 'work in progress- possibly never will attain perfection'


Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Borsch on December 20, 2015, 04:44:58 AM
Looking at the extra info OP posted on scamsurvivor I'd now say it's most likely a scammer.

I think she has a strange look so I wouldn't rule her out as a scammer on her looks vs his alone. Her being 36, I'd say most of those photos would be a few years out of date. I'd say those former profiles maybe just that... former profiles... someone that tried once and is done with it.

The most telling is probably the structure of the letters and the fact that she is sending them through the dating website. The website says it is partnered with a translation service. Put OP's 150 Euros/month translation thread in conjunction with all this new info there is a clearer picture. Extremely long letters that are translated on a per word basis. The rate seems ok but the costs will balloon quite quickly. You can probably see where I'm going with this. "She" is most likely an agency employee with the job of writing to men who will pay for the partnered translation services of his and her long messages. Most legit people would be willing to take the conversation off the dating websites.

Hell I'd even go as far as saying the whole website is a scam.

Non-paying members can only send messages that are translated "the ability to send translated messages without Youandme-We.Com membership.
Translation Service is provided by our partner Online-Translator.biz." - probably their own company.

Also there seems to be no (real) way for women to register. It says women must send them an email while guys can do a typical register online. What legit dating website is structured like that?? They also don't write the addresses of their alleged offices in the CIS for women to prove their identity. I'd like to hear of a woman bothering to register like that, and if so, succeeding.

I'd expect her to continue to want to write through the website at all costs. I doubt you'd get her on skype or anything like that. The site owners seem wise to our anti scam policy - no pay per letter, etc. So they've invented something more discrete - pay per month which is widely accepted and pay for translations.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 20, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Steveboy

There are some beautiful actually many women like this, but they SURE wouldn't be interested in some foreigner for marriage . A women like that would get all she wants and more in Russia! She would have no need for some cheap iPhone sent to her or anything else!

Its Friday night and Im off out soon to a bar full of beauties , turn up there and flash your passport about they will just laugh at you!

I agree it's scam.

 I would note that the premise that's its scam based merely on how attractive the woman is seems flawed.
 Stating basically that no woman as attractive as this, would look for a foreigner to marry, is a tad over reaching.

The general  female population , no matter where they reside on the attractiveness scale,  are not  looking for a foreigner to marry.

The ones that may, fall all across the attractiveness scale as well.

Lets see some photos of guys who have married women as attractive as the one were talking about then?? Does anyone here have any?? :laugh:  Very very few but nearly EVERYONE is expecting to marry one..
Thats the funny thing!
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: AJ on December 22, 2015, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Steveboy
Lets see some photos of guys who have married women as attractive as the one were talking about then?? Does anyone here have any?? :laugh:  Very very few but nearly EVERYONE is expecting to marry one..
Thats the funny thing!

My photo's in my avatar, and in a few threads here.

Fairly sure you actually meant something else though? ;)

To that point, I'd say the  men here have almost all married up considerably,I know I did.
While the woman mentioned is attractive, I'd guess shes not got much on the wives of RUA members in general if basing things on appearance.

 Maybe I need a new profession, I'm not even in that biz ,and off hand know at least a handful of very attractive women that would be willing to, or now recently have , married and relocated west.Yes, as attractive, or more so, than the situation you are referring to?


Now, I fully agree that you're *very few* is certainly true.

 I simply don't contribute it to the same factors you do.
Basically you seem to attribute this to the attractive girls being  picky,  having all things they want already handed to them on silver platters by the new Russians :)

While I agree there is some percentage of that in play,
I think in the MOB arena, which is the point of discussion,
it pales in comparison to the other factors:

Very very few WM actually bother to travel.
Very few of those that do, will
avoid the scams, or have any kind of real relationship.
Fewer of those will lead to any kind of relationship at all,
and even fewer of those will be socially and worldly adapt,
much less have the qualities of self analysis, and secure and confident enough to pull off a long distance relationship with a truly attractive woman, much less one that leads to marriage.

That doesn't mean very attractive women aren't available for marriage, or generally have such extravagant expectations they can only be met be an Oligarch.

I do agree that likely most signing up for a website, are very unrealistic , possibly pushing 60 ,yet looking for a  23 yo Smokinhotkova right out of Victoria's Secret Magazine.
and Moscow's socialite scene..lol.
but that's just signing up at a website, a website with eye candy as a headline for the most part!!So why would they expect anything different? It's exactly how most of them market ,and their market strategy.
Anyway in  this age , that's a 10 second thing , an off the cuff thing for a WM to do on a whim. no risk involved, nothing put forward really.
I don't compare that to a sincere guy actually getting on a plane.
Yes he could be equally unrealistic, but its still comparing apples to oranges.

A well rounded, family oriented,  established WM, may very well not be able to just flash a passport, but he sure wont be lacking for attractive female serious minded attention if that's what he wants. 
 Sure the 23 yo modelesque Moscow socialite/party girl might not be interested, but she isn't really representative of the bulk of attractive women in the FSU either.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: ashbyclarke on December 22, 2015, 04:36:31 PM

Lets see some photos of guys who have married women as attractive as the one were talking about then?? Does anyone here have any?? :laugh:  Very very few but nearly EVERYONE is expecting to marry one..
Thats the funny thing!

My wife is pretty fit, great figure and cute looking, serious attitude problem with strangers which I rather like. Thing is since she's moved here the amount of moves other men make to get a foothold is amazing, from getting their kids to ask questions to almost falling over themselves to get some attention. Nothing works, she's totally oblivious or not, still she can ignore adults and children in a stride.

Thing is with this search how can anyone cope with a women who doesn't speak same language, might work for some, but thats some ask, my wife is fluent in English but we still have problems with understanding, if she couldn't speak/understand our language it would be much harder living as a couple. Moreso if you're busy with a working life, coming home to misconceptions or misunderstandings that require hours and hours of negotiation make any fit hottie a novelty you wish you'd never had.

Finding a hottie that speaks English to an acceptable level is limiting your search considerably, still I smile every morning, afternoon and at least twice in the evening.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: yankee on December 22, 2015, 04:45:30 PM

Lets see some photos of guys who have married women as attractive as the one were talking about then?? Does anyone here have any?? :laugh:  Very very few but nearly EVERYONE is expecting to marry one..
Thats the funny thing!

My wife is pretty fit, great figure and cute looking, serious attitude problem with strangers which I rather like. Thing is since she's moved here the amount of moves other men make to get a foothold is amazing, from getting their kids to ask questions to almost falling over themselves to get some attention. Nothing works, she's totally oblivious or not, still she can ignore adults and children in a stride.

Thing is with this search how can anyone cope with a women who doesn't speak same language, might work for some, but thats some ask, my wife is fluent in English but we still have problems with understanding, if she couldn't speak/understand our language it would be much harder living as a couple. Moreso if you're busy with a working life, coming home to misconceptions or misunderstandings that require hours and hours of negotiation make any fit hottie a novelty you wish you'd never had.

Finding a hottie that speaks English to an acceptable level is limiting your search considerably, still I smile every morning, afternoon and at least twice in the evening.

+1
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 22, 2015, 05:43:28 PM

Lets see some photos of guys who have married women as attractive as the one were talking about then?? Does anyone here have any?? :laugh:  Very very few but nearly EVERYONE is expecting to marry one..
Thats the funny thing!

My wife is pretty fit, great figure and cute looking, serious attitude problem with strangers which I rather like. Thing is since she's moved here the amount of moves other men make to get a foothold is amazing, from getting their kids to ask questions to almost falling over themselves to get some attention. Nothing works, she's totally oblivious or not, still she can ignore adults and children in a stride.

Thing is with this search how can anyone cope with a women who doesn't speak same language, might work for some, but thats some ask, my wife is fluent in English but we still have problems with understanding, if she couldn't speak/understand our language it would be much harder living as a couple. Moreso if you're busy with a working life, coming home to misconceptions or misunderstandings that require hours and hours of negotiation make any fit hottie a novelty you wish you'd never had.

Finding a hottie that speaks English to an acceptable level is limiting your search considerably, still I smile every morning, afternoon and at least twice in the evening.

+1

+2
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 23, 2015, 12:03:15 AM

My wife is pretty fit, great figure and cute looking, serious attitude problem with strangers which I rather like. Thing is since she's moved here the amount of moves other men make to get a foothold is amazing, from getting their kids to ask questions to almost falling over themselves to get some attention. Nothing works, she's totally oblivious or not, still she can ignore adults and children in a stride.



I recognise the type and have worn the t-shirt. Having been kicked into touch by said type - on more than one occasion - all I can say is the ride seemed great, while lasted and the fall hurt like hell - but I kept going back for more  :chuckle:

The funny thing is such types tend to end up single, lonely and contacting you - hoping you're still a sucker and believe they can work the same spell..again and again  :'(

Give me a softie, that can smile and appreciate a compliment and manage to say thanks, but no thanks - any day.

Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Steveboy on December 23, 2015, 01:13:24 AM
Me and the wife in Red Square just after lunch with Mr Putin  :chuckle:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201915865875016&set=t.1135221469&type=3&theater
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Markje on December 23, 2015, 01:57:08 AM
Me and the wife in Red Square just after lunch with Mr Putin  :chuckle:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201915865875016&set=t.1135221469&type=3&theater

Nice one.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: ashbyclarke on December 23, 2015, 04:21:21 PM

Give me a softie, that can smile and appreciate a compliment and manage to say thanks, but no thanks - any day.

that's the thing, she's a softy, cute and cuddly but when alone for a while there's other things that come into that pretty little head that surprises me. It's all about expectation vs what is a reality or working possibility. Practicality isn't something they often consider.

Still I'd rather the upfront-ness than some weak minded, shy irrelevant young attitude.

I make it sound frequent, perhaps it is to a certain degree, but we've only been living as man and wife a short time, what we do have is an understanding now, when I come home and there's an issue I immediately realise there's a difference in points of view, with a quick joke about the purported issue we can then discuss this swiftly with an amicable resolution.

That perhaps wouldn't be as easy if she didn't understand a common language as we do, whilst we speak same language we certainly (at present) do not understand each others expectations or cultures, we are however learning fast. There's an awful lot to learn, that is most rewarding when resolved.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: AJ on December 23, 2015, 04:39:24 PM
Quote from: Steveboy
There are some beautiful actually many women like this, but they SURE wouldn't be interested in some foreigner for marriage . A women like that would get all she wants and more in Russia!   

She would have no need for some cheap iPhone sent to her or anything else!

Well , seems answered that there are at least a few attractive RW like that, that would be interested in a foreigner for marriage.

They may not lack for anything in Russia (or FSU), but expanded their dating pool nonetheless.
 :biggrin:

Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: B.B. on December 23, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
I understand my language quite well.

BTW, I would say once rather than when. Just saying......

If American, you might say when you have gotten instead.

Hmm.  Maybe it's a New England thing, but we would say "once" rather than "when" or "when you have gotten" (indeed, we'd be more likely to say "once you have gotten" in place of that last one.)

B/B
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Dogsoldier on December 24, 2015, 01:19:00 AM

Give me a softie, that can smile and appreciate a compliment and manage to say thanks, but no thanks - any day.

that's the thing, she's a softy, cute and cuddly but when alone for a while there's other things that come into that pretty little head that surprises me. It's all about expectation vs what is a reality or working possibility. Practicality isn't something they often consider.

Still I'd rather the upfront-ness than some weak minded, shy irrelevant young attitude.

I make it sound frequent, perhaps it is to a certain degree, but we've only been living as man and wife a short time, what we do have is an understanding now, when I come home and there's an issue I immediately realise there's a difference in points of view, with a quick joke about the purported issue we can then discuss this swiftly with an amicable resolution.

That perhaps wouldn't be as easy if she didn't understand a common language as we do, whilst we speak same language we certainly (at present) do not understand each others expectations or cultures, we are however learning fast. There's an awful lot to learn, that is most rewarding when resolved.
Welcome to the club  tiphat
It seems to be the consensus that it takes about 2 years to iron out the wrinkles.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 24, 2015, 02:39:19 AM


Give me a softie, that can smile and appreciate a compliment and manage to say thanks, but no thanks - any day.

that's the thing, she's a softy, cute and cuddly but when alone

You said, ''my wife..serious attitude problem with strangers''

I was merely saying I'd prefer someone who is not like this in 'new' company..but I appreciate this tends to be a FSU trait..I never figured if it is a defence mechanism or out of some idea that all other men must be sent a clear signal that, 'I am taken'  :chuckle: 



Welcome to the club  tiphat
It seems to be the consensus that it takes about 2 years to iron out the wrinkles.

..and how long for her to 'wrinkle out' yours  :chuckle:

I accept that you are probably being facetious  - as I cannot understand why any one would want to change the differences that make a FSU women appealingly different.

I am gregarious and my FSU partners have tended to be quiet.... but they were never 'walkovers' if their mind is made up about something 

Back on subject - Sex is one area were a FSU woman opinion's 'opinion' is worth seeking out  :chuckle:
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Danchik on December 24, 2015, 04:35:03 AM
The RW in question is average at best for Russia. Badly dyed red hair, standard boots that make any girl here look sexy to men, and quite average in the photo the OP provided.

I'm sitting in a Starbucks in a Moscow mall taking a break at the moment, and a better looking RW passes by every 2 minutes. There are two dev's behind the counter here I'd rather get with than our pseudo redhead.

There have been times in my life when I might have thought this redhead to be quite attractive. You know, like a hamburger tastes when you haven't had a good steak for awhile. When you start to get fed a diet of ribeyes and tenderloins, you understand the difference. Of course, everyone has their own version of beauty, but IMO, this "redhead" is hamburger.

As far as talking about sex, well RW are hardly prudes. Nevertheless, one doesn't broach the topic like an adolesent viewing his first porno movie. If you are just beginning to communicate with a FSUW and haven't met but sense her interest in taking the communication to the next level, then by all means. Think of it like comedy, where timing is key. :P
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Dogsoldier on December 24, 2015, 12:47:31 PM


Give me a softie, that can smile and appreciate a compliment and manage to say thanks, but no thanks - any day.

that's the thing, she's a softy, cute and cuddly but when alone

You said, ''my wife..serious attitude problem with strangers''

I was merely saying I'd prefer someone who is not like this in 'new' company..but I appreciate this tends to be a FSU trait..I never figured if it is a defence mechanism or out of some idea that all other men must be sent a clear signal that, 'I am taken'  :chuckle: 



Welcome to the club  tiphat
It seems to be the consensus that it takes about 2 years to iron out the wrinkles.

..and how long for her to 'wrinkle out' yours  :chuckle:

I accept that you are probably being facetious  - as I cannot understand why any one would want to change the differences that make a FSU women appealingly different.

I am gregarious and my FSU partners have tended to be quiet.... but they were never 'walkovers' if their mind is made up about something 

Back on subject - Sex is one area were a FSU woman opinion's 'opinion' is worth seeking out  :chuckle:
What are you banging on about? Who is saying anything about changing anybody? It is generally accepted that it takes about 2 years to make the transition and the relationship to stabilise after an FSUW arrives.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Manny on December 24, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
I never figured if it is a defence mechanism or out of some idea that all other men must be sent a clear signal that, 'I am taken' 

Its the bolded. If you knew more Russian men, you would understand it.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Omega1982 on December 24, 2015, 07:14:51 PM
The RW in question is average at best for Russia. Badly dyed red hair, standard boots that make any girl here look sexy to men, and quite average in the photo the OP provided.

I'm sitting in a Starbucks in a Moscow mall taking a break at the moment, and a better looking RW passes by every 2 minutes. There are two dev's behind the counter here I'd rather get with than our pseudo redhead.

There have been times in my life when I might have thought this redhead to be quite attractive. You know, like a hamburger tastes when you haven't had a good steak for awhile. When you start to get fed a diet of ribeyes and tenderloins, you understand the difference. Of course, everyone has their own version of beauty, but IMO, this "redhead" is hamburger.

As far as talking about sex, well RW are hardly prudes. Nevertheless, one doesn't broach the topic like an adolesent viewing his first porno movie. If you are just beginning to communicate with a FSUW and haven't met but sense her interest in taking the communication to the next level, then by all means. Think of it like comedy, where timing is key. :P

Why don't you post a picture of you with the good ones then Dan? 

I've never seen anyone stoop so low on this site as to insult another member's wife. 

Steve is a good friend and has built a successful life in Russia.  We can all learn from him.  I will not stand for these low blows against a fellow valued member. 
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: TomT on December 24, 2015, 07:48:53 PM
I've never seen anyone stoop so low on this site as to insult another member's wife. 

Steve is a good friend and has built a successful life in Russia.  We can all learn from him.  I will not stand for these low blows against a fellow valued member.

Danchik wasn't discussing Steve's wife.
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Omega1982 on December 24, 2015, 08:45:03 PM
The most recent photo was from Steve. 

I must have been mistaken then with an earlier post on this thread. 
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: msmoby on December 24, 2015, 11:37:44 PM


Its the bolded. If you knew more Russian men, you would understand it.

 :chuckle:

Having seen how Russian and Cypriot men operate - it is a waste of time - they'll still try - wedding ring or not..
Title: Re: I have asked her her opinion about sex
Post by: Brian275 on November 26, 2016, 09:42:52 PM
Quote
"A well rounded, family oriented,  established WM, may very well not be able to just flash a passport, but he sure wont be lacking for attractive female serious minded attention if that's what he wants. 
 Sure the 23 yo modelesque Moscow socialite/party girl might not be interested, but she isn't really representative of the bulk of attractive women in the FSU either.

And that woman, while extremely gorgeous, is hardly a 'model'. She's 36 and 5'4 (163 cm). And the photos were likely taken years ago. I know you weren't referring to her and I'm actually agreeing with you that there are women in our 'community' who are more physically attractive, as well as have a 'more desirable age' (a bit unfair, unless the man is like 30 or younger, but its unfortunately how many men feel. For the most desirable women they prefer someone in their 20's, especially from that part of the world). So I can definitely see her being willing to look abroad. But as said she is really gorgeous. Definitely no knock on her looks, thats for sure!