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Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 06, 2017, 05:34:17 AM

Do you have one of those hand held shower massage devices?


Are those not better suited for couples where the man has a problem?

For couples where the man lasts over 30minutes in bed, gives a good stimulation while you use your sausage also. Pair of handcuffs,and a blindfold wouldn't do a miss also ;) Do your bit in bed, otherwise you will do you bit in a costly divorce. I heard a few stories where fsuw tend to have a hunk on a side, or some guys have walked into their wives cheating. It is discussed a lot and even women give advice to each other on how to hide their hunks from their husbands on fsuw forums.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: msmoby on February 06, 2017, 07:40:40 AM
I'll bet the OP is 'really glad' he asked  :coffeeread:

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 06, 2017, 10:51:03 AM
I heard a few stories where fsuw tend to have a hunk on a side, or some guys have walked into their wives cheating. It is discussed a lot and even women give advice to each other on how to hide their hunks from their husbands on fsuw forums.

There are a number of low social skill, clueless types that are oblivious
to what's going on around them, who get involved in the foreign marriage
pursuit. They gravitate there because they think that FSUW are a magic pill
and their lack of skills will get covered up by language and culture and they
buy into the agency hype, but the opposite is true.

FSUW aren't for entry level daters anymore than expert ski slopes are
for novice skiers. We really can't help guys like that. We can only help
the normal guys.

That's my opinion at least.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: rosco on February 06, 2017, 11:04:49 AM

Do you have one of those hand held shower massage devices?


Are those not better suited for couples where the man has a problem?

For couples where the man lasts over 30minutes in bed, gives a good stimulation while you use your sausage also. Pair of handcuffs,and a blindfold wouldn't do a miss also ;) Do your bit in bed, otherwise you will do you bit in a costly divorce. I heard a few stories where fsuw tend to have a hunk on a side, or some guys have walked into their wives cheating. It is discussed a lot and even women give advice to each other on how to hide their hunks from their husbands on fsuw forums.

Yip you've nailed it there Chicken man, spot on.

The FSU animal only recognises the hot beef injection as a sign of love and respect, therefor without daily maintenance, the species tends to migrate to another willing bloke before they die of sexual inactivity. They're also extremely good at keeping this as stealthy as possible unlike their more western sisters. You should hang around here with this invaluable insight into Russian ladies.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 06, 2017, 05:26:31 PM


Yip you've nailed it there Chicken man, spot on.

The FSU animal only recognises the hot beef injection as a sign of love and respect, therefor without daily maintenance, the species tends to migrate to another willing bloke before they die of sexual inactivity. They're also extremely good at keeping this as stealthy as possible unlike their more western sisters. You should hang around here with this invaluable insight into Russian ladies.

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People think they are exceptions to the rules, they don't want to hear the truth. So they just lie, lie about how big their dick is, lie that women are attracted to their IQ. I can give names, and accurate descriptions of some people's marriages on other forums, the details are what they are not willing to disclose. It is a joke, a joke that deludes others to pursue this search. Majority of men don't find love, not even love with women that are not even that attractive. That is the sad truth, money can only take you so far. So much lies are told on other forums, the truth is hid very well so guys can admire semi-attractive women, which if you just put down the jam rolls, you could have found in the west.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: msmoby on February 06, 2017, 08:49:14 PM


People think they are exceptions to the rules, they don't want to hear the truth.

 :ROFL:

BS alert

1/ I am not hung like a donkey
2/ I am not an Oligarch
3/ I am not an 'alpha male'
4/ I am not Adonis

I haven't screwed around during a monogamous relationship - ( listening first wife ? ) and I'm pretty sure I've not been cheated on

OMG, I left SC in Thailand without a chastity belt ...




Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Manny on February 06, 2017, 11:31:30 PM
I'll bet the OP is 'really glad' he asked  :coffeeread:

Why the topic has been split off.

I am sure CB will regale us with how he shouts, "this one is for Murrica" at the end or similar. Or perhaps how she loves it when he keeps his baseball cap on.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 07, 2017, 04:28:54 AM


People think they are exceptions to the rules, they don't want to hear the truth.

 :ROFL:

BS alert

1/ I am not hung like a donkey
2/ I am not an Oligarch
3/ I am not an 'alpha male'
4/ I am not Adonis

I haven't screwed around during a monogamous relationship - ( listening first wife ? ) and I'm pretty sure I've not been cheated on

OMG, I left SC in Thailand without a chastity belt ...


Who gave who the STI in your last marriage to fsuw? Didn't things turn south when you were losing your business? Did she just happen to stop having sex with you, and you went elsewhere? You are the biggest shit talker I know, and to top it off you are delusional.

I feel sorry for anyone that believes the shit you say.some people do find love, but vast majority do not.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Ste on February 07, 2017, 05:07:53 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 07, 2017, 06:17:33 AM
Was it very wrong that I quite fancied Deidre when she was younger (and not dead)?

Who is this bloke who has been researching our forum indigent person so closely? I find myself curious as to his previous identity!

For our forum indigent: no matter how comely you find your crotch scratcher, I think it is safe to say that she is, errmm, enough mature that there is little risk of her finding herself the target of unwanted attention.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 07, 2017, 06:35:49 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

I will post my pics and trip report some time in summer hopefully, once i go to the fsu again. I can't share too much of my past experiences or photos in the fsu, as the woman i dated previously is now getting married to a young very good looking russian actor. I am no CK model, i do not believe having abs, big arms is crucial to get get a woman, let alone sustain a relationship/marriage. If you want to twist my words, go ahead and i will not respond to your further. I do believe however, most marriages on fsu are heavily influenced by money, from the previous forum i was on, a veteran who was a moderator knew all the details of peoples marriages. He never disclosed me stories or names, but told me 50% of the marriages fail, reason being is money, the ones that do last, 50% of the guys are miserable, again, because of the money. I believe money is the most critical factor for most of the guys who go abroad, as that is what most guys only have to offer.

I know stories of guys who bought their wives $50k+ cars, showered them with gifts, helped them get on their feet, only to be denied sex and shortly after left for dust. If what i say offends you, then you are the problem, i am just stating what people have told me, and the stories i know.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 07, 2017, 08:47:21 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

SRM and ATM posts all in one day. That's some good boil medicine you are on, Ste...:-)))))
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: B.B. on February 07, 2017, 09:56:06 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

SRM and ATM posts all in one day. That's some good boil medicine you are on, Ste...:-)))))

I have to say, I do miss Smooth.  He had a high entertainment value.  And for purposes of clarity, I don't mean that in a particularly negative way.

B/B
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 09, 2017, 03:01:18 PM
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You guys can try all you want to twist my character. But the truth is there, if all you have is money to offer, you will have issues. That was my original point, just because SOME Russian women are materialistic, does not mean you can keep them caged up forever. Some will get out of the cage without you knowing.

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 09, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
Somebody much more sensible than I once wrote something like this: 'money may not be able to buy happiness but is certainly buys all the things that make you happy!'

Most people do not fall in love with another person for just one reason. Most people do not, in my opinion, 'fall in love' anyway. Most people make choices, compromises, have hopes and dreams but romantic love is a recent invention and is not an option for most adults making long term relationships. Love certainly doesn't 'conquer all'.

People choose to be with other people because their 'package' of benefits is attractive. If the value of all the benefits summed up is enough to cross the threshold then 'bingo' we got a winner.

Sometimes, some people, use money to increase the value of their benefits package. Others might emphasise looks, others social status or any of a myriad attributes that create value. To discount money is foolish. To discount ANY attribute is similarly foolish.

Here's a truth: An older bloke chasing a relatively younger, more physically attractive woman is likely to need to be able to lead with a fair amount of wallet action. Most blokes here are engaged in such a pursuit.

What I think does happen though is that many blokes simply do not have any other attributes and there's almost no amount of wallet action can compensate for poor looks, lack of social skills and old age. Further, the guy who can seem like a cock of the walk on a two week vaykay in Odessa does not look quite so good when he returns with his bride to the Home of the Poor and 11 months of paying down the credit card bills before his next appearance on the shores of the Black Sea.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 09, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
Somebody much more sensible than I once wrote something like this: 'money may not be able to buy happiness but is certainly buys all the things that make you happy!'

Most people do not fall in love with another person for just one reason. Most people do not, in my opinion, 'fall in love' anyway. Most people make choices, compromises, have hopes and dreams but romantic love is a recent invention and is not an option for most adults making long term relationships. Love certainly doesn't 'conquer all'.

People choose to be with other people because their 'package' of benefits is attractive. If the value of all the benefits summed up is enough to cross the threshold then 'bingo' we got a winner.

Sometimes, some people, use money to increase the value of their benefits package. Others might emphasise looks, others social status or any of a myriad attributes that create value. To discount money is foolish. To discount ANY attribute is similarly foolish.

Here's a truth: An older bloke chasing a relatively younger, more physically attractive woman is likely to need to be able to lead with a fair amount of wallet action. Most blokes here are engaged in such a pursuit.

What I think does happen though is that many blokes simply do not have any other attributes and there's almost no amount of wallet action can compensate for poor looks, lack of social skills and old age. Further, the guy who can seem like a cock of the walk on a two week vaykay in Odessa does not look quite so good when he returns with his bride to the Home of the Poor and 11 months of paying down the credit card bills before his next appearance on the shores of the Black Sea.

well put, no money = big problems. It is hard to categorise all fsuw, and what they want. I thought my ex-wanted to escape Russia, in the end she wanted me to live there with her. First mistake i made was assumptions. Assume nothing, every individual will differ.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Wiz on February 10, 2017, 12:52:56 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

Do you remember the name or maybe Manny, of the old chap from Essex..... who was on about his conquests too.

The OP, I think, is referring to so many American old braggers, with no personality and experience in relationships,  who went to the FSU to buy cheap meat and ornament(s) and after few years lost their shirt and the "pussy", because they had no experience or success with local women, when the wallet effect run out.

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 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Manny on February 10, 2017, 01:04:48 AM
Do you remember the name or maybe Manny, of the old chap from Essex..... who was on about his conquests too.

You wasn't it?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Wiz on February 10, 2017, 01:14:25 AM
Do you remember the name or maybe Manny, of the old chap from Essex..... who was on about his conquests too.

You wasn't it?

I don't remember ever bragging about my conquests unlike you bragging about long legs and a lot of other things, like not shopping on certain shops!   tiphat
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 10, 2017, 02:05:56 AM
I think perhaps Wiz is thinking of Vinny, famous for his strenuous denials of being a sex tourist while behaving like the commonly held vision of one at every opportunity. His saving grace being that his behaviour was not a good match for the United Nations particular definition. ;)
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Ste on February 10, 2017, 02:27:27 AM
Remember Stephan, he was one who changed like the wind, Manny and I went on the Curry Mile with him in Rusholme once, to Lal Quila.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 10, 2017, 02:35:56 AM
The OP, I think, is referring to so many American old braggers, with no personality and experience in relationships

Correct, but worse thing is, they lied about their experiences.
I think perhaps Wiz is thinking of Vinny, famous for his strenuous denials of being a sex tourist while behaving like the commonly held vision of one at every opportunity.

Vinny is an active poster on rooshv, where he posts his trip reports. Sounds of it, he hooks up with lots of women.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Jerash on February 10, 2017, 03:10:52 AM

well put, no money = big problems. It is hard to categorise all fsuw, and what they want. I thought my ex-wanted to escape Russia, in the end she wanted me to live there with her. First mistake i made was assumptions. Assume nothing, every individual will differ.

Now, THAT is a little nugget of wisdom! :tiphat:



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Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 10, 2017, 03:57:00 AM
Is Vinny's mo still to lie to women about his intentions or is he a little bit more honest these days?

His purposeful deception was a tad bothersome.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 10, 2017, 06:11:32 AM
Reminds me of Smooth Operator, anyone else remember him?

Banged on about SRM's (Second Rate Mutha's), hitting the gym daily etc; turned out he was a Chinese-american with massive Deirdre Barlow glasses....

Korean-American, Last name Lee and worked at the Pebble Beach Golf Club as a caddie. He'd get investment tips from those he caddied for and then post them on RW-G. From the photos I seen of him he wasn't a nerd but a decent looking Asian-American man. About 40 then looked 30. Nice guy. We chatted a few times on the phone. The late Doug Salem met him and told me about his occupation.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 10, 2017, 07:24:04 AM
Do you remember the name or maybe Manny, of the old chap from Essex..... who was on about his conquests too.

You wasn't it?

There goes my morning coffee :-)
Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 10, 2017, 02:53:54 PM
Somebody much more sensible than I once wrote something like this: 'money may not be able to buy happiness but is certainly buys all the things that make you happy!'

Some quotes from the late great Zsa Zsa Gabor (she died in December)

Money can't buy happiness, but poverty can't buy anything.

Husbands are like fires - they go out when unattended.

I learned in school that money isn’t everything. It’s happiness that counts.
So Momma sent me to a different school.

To have twenty lovers in one year is easy. To have one lover for twenty years is difficult.

I don't take gifts from perfect strangers — but then, nobody is perfect.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Zsa_Zsa_Gabor_-_1959.jpg)
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Omega1982 on February 10, 2017, 11:13:11 PM
Somebody much more sensible than I once wrote something like this: 'money may not be able to buy happiness but is certainly buys all the things that make you happy!'

Most people do not fall in love with another person for just one reason. Most people do not, in my opinion, 'fall in love' anyway. Most people make choices, compromises, have hopes and dreams but romantic love is a recent invention and is not an option for most adults making long term relationships. Love certainly doesn't 'conquer all'.

People choose to be with other people because their 'package' of benefits is attractive. If the value of all the benefits summed up is enough to cross the threshold then 'bingo' we got a winner.

Sometimes, some people, use money to increase the value of their benefits package. Others might emphasise looks, others social status or any of a myriad attributes that create value. To discount money is foolish. To discount ANY attribute is similarly foolish.

Here's a truth: An older bloke chasing a relatively younger, more physically attractive woman is likely to need to be able to lead with a fair amount of wallet action. Most blokes here are engaged in such a pursuit.

What I think does happen though is that many blokes simply do not have any other attributes and there's almost no amount of wallet action can compensate for poor looks, lack of social skills and old age. Further, the guy who can seem like a cock of the walk on a two week vaykay in Odessa does not look quite so good when he returns with his bride to the Home of the Poor and 11 months of paying down the credit card bills before his next appearance on the shores of the Black Sea.


Well done!  Where does this put the occasional extremely attractive flight attendant you get on Aeroflot?  Is she waiting for the highest sum of total points from someone in business class?  I've seen some model types on Aeroflot which quite honestly I'm surprised no one has taken them off the market. 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 11, 2017, 02:58:16 AM
Not everybody is gagging to marry. The chances of the women you lust after not having a lover, or lovers, is slim.

More than a few women cleave to the view that a woman needs three men. One for sex, one for intellect and one for support.

Some men have a similar perspective, albeit with different criteria.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: rosco on February 11, 2017, 04:57:21 AM
Not everybody is gagging to marry. The chances of the women you lust after not having a lover, or lovers, is slim.

More than a few women cleave to the view that a woman needs three men. One for sex, one for intellect and one for support.

Some men have a similar perspective, albeit with different criteria.

You mean one to cook, one to clean & the other for sex?  :hidechair:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 11, 2017, 06:27:30 AM
Rosco, I am sure that different people have different criteria. Those, for example, would not be my criteria. I suppose also, that as with women, the mix would depend upon the attributes of each member of the group.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: NS1 on February 11, 2017, 08:15:04 AM
I can't afford 3 women, this will also increase the likelihood of an early death LOL.
I am fortunate to have one that has all the attributes I desire.
Best I can tell she doesn't have 3 men  :8)
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 11, 2017, 09:59:11 AM
Not everybody is gagging to marry. The chances of the women you lust after not having a lover, or lovers, is slim.

More than a few women cleave to the view that a woman needs three men. One for sex, one for intellect and one for support.

Some men have a similar perspective, albeit with different criteria.

You mean one to cook, one to clean & the other for sex?  :hidechair:

yeah  :party0031: welcome to clan life in Kentucky.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 11, 2017, 10:14:44 AM
As I recall, in Islamic tradition a man may have several (3?) wives as long as he can support them.

The support issue is important.

In addition, marriages can be very short term, as short as one night.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 11, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
As I recall, in Islamic tradition a man may have several (3?) wives as long as he can support them.

The support issue is important.

In addition, marriages can be very short term, as short as one night.

One night, because this is Islam's way of getting around prohibitions against prostitution. A friend who once visited Iran witnessed this first hand (poor girls advertising "marriage" along the side of the road).
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 11, 2017, 10:26:08 AM
Nothing wrong with prostitution in a free market with equitable regulation.
Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 11, 2017, 11:14:25 AM

What I think does happen though is that many blokes simply do not have any other attributes and there's almost no amount of wallet action can compensate for poor looks, lack of social skills and old age. Further, the guy who can seem like a cock of the walk on a two week vaykay in Odessa does not look quite so good when he returns with his bride to the Home of the Poor and 11 months of paying down the credit card bills before his next appearance on the shores of the Black Sea.

A lot of good very good advice/knowledge in your post. The truth is that we
can't help the guys with low social skills and a low wallet, a two week
vacation each year, and the energy level to put into this.

Ideally a guy has four of four, but he could be successful with advice from
here with three of four.

I've known guys who are very shy, but after they get to know somebody they
come out of their shell. That guy would have to be a good judge of character.
A guy like that who could afford to live abroad for a year or more and spend
a ton of energy on it could have success, but if the guy is picking his ear with
his salad fork on a date oblivious to to his date making eyes at the waiter is
toast. 

A guy who doesn't quite make $60K a year but owns his house and has zero
debt, has great social skills and can spend a lot of time with his boots on the
ground and willing to put in a good effort could have some success as well. 

If a guy has only one or two of the four or is living on credit cards he might 
wake up in a ditch with his kidneys sold to the organ transplant mafia or if
lucky locked in his apartment for the New Year while his girl gets her biscuit
buttered by her local Bo.

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 11, 2017, 01:04:47 PM


A guy who doesn't quite make $60K a year but owns his house and has zero
debt, has great social skills and can spend a lot of time with his boots on the
ground and willing to put in a good effort could have some success as well. 



Depends on where you live, e.g country. UK has benefits, such as a free healthcare, education to a certain extent. Someone in the U.S may need to make up for those, but i have no clue. Also depends on the woman you meet, someone could start working relatively quickly, for example, if they were a fitness trainer, not much money, but decent money. Taking on someone else's kid is also a cost to factor.

I know more young couples than most on here. The guys are making joke sum of money,don't own their own home, probably never will, yet the women they get would blow away what a guy earning $150k old, and physically repulsive. Better yet, the women have more genuine feelings towards their man than the man earning $150k a year. I, nor most here can create an accurate formulae on what certain women want.

Not everybody is gagging to marry. The chances of the women you lust after not having a lover, or lovers, is slim.



These are western women, they date who they like. If they can find a guy they like with a big wallet great!

Problem is, majority of guys who go to russia, wouldn't be interesting for them. Because they have no sexual attraction to such men.




Money can't buy happiness, but poverty can't buy anything.



FUnny thing is, i knew a bloke on another forums, well several, one falsfied his whole existence, kept going on about money. Someone found out his address, lived in a $350k, smallish house in florida, i doubt the guy was even a millionaire. Truth is written above, if you can have the basics in life, can string a conversation, sexually attractive, world is yours pretty much. Money is an illusion to give sad guys motivation that they can buy love, so some eventually go to russia as that is their only attribute.
Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 11, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
Money is an illusion to give sad guys motivation that they can buy love, so some eventually go to russia as that is their only attribute.

Some guys with no money AND no attributes will go, they will fail just like
the guys with ONLY money. Guys with ONLY money can rent but not buy.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 11, 2017, 06:39:39 PM
Money is an illusion to give sad guys motivation that they can buy love, so some eventually go to russia as that is their only attribute.

Some guys with no money AND no attributes will go, they will fail just like
the guys with ONLY money. Guys with ONLY money can rent but not buy.

They may travel to Ukraine or some islands but there is some universal truth to the above.

I learned from my father 'alimony is the screwing you get for the screwing you had'
Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 11, 2017, 06:52:56 PM
I learned from my father 'alimony is the screwing you get for the screwing you had'

A friend of mine said something similar about girl friends
Make sure the f#cking you are getting is worth
the f#cking you are getting.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 11, 2017, 07:13:28 PM
I learned from my father 'alimony is the screwing you get for the screwing you had'

A friend of mine said something similar about girl friends
Make sure the f#cking you are getting is worth
the f#cking you are getting.

 :chuckle:  Truth as well in the above.

In the end I guess it depends how one views relationships and the OPPOSITE sex.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 11, 2017, 11:06:10 PM
I learned from my father 'alimony is the screwing you get for the screwing you had'

A friend of mine said something similar about girl friends
Make sure the f#cking you are getting is worth
the f#cking you are getting.

Lifetime spousal maintenance @ $2200 a month somehow comes to mind  :scared0005:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Gipsy on February 11, 2017, 11:14:22 PM
FFFF springs to mind... :hidechair:

Safest option.. :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 01:18:48 AM
FFFF springs to mind... :hidechair:

Safest option.. :coffeeread:

I am not sure what FFFF means or if it is being applied to me. Somethings you can't avoid or get out of if you want to stay legal.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Omega1982 on February 12, 2017, 02:11:19 AM
FFFF springs to mind... :hidechair:

Safest option.. :coffeeread:

FFFF = Find them, feel them, F*** them, forget them..... 

Rinse and repeat. 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 12, 2017, 02:42:12 AM
FFFF, is the same as MGTOW (Men go their own way).


Money is an illusion to give sad guys motivation that they can buy love, so some eventually go to russia as that is their only attribute.

Some guys with no money AND no attributes will go, they will fail just like
the guys with ONLY money. Guys with ONLY money can rent but not buy.


Broke guy will get dumped on the first date, a guy that has money but nothing else will get used and dumped after the woman he married gets into a career.

THere was one guy, the wife got educated, left him after 6 years. One of the male moderators told me this story, he said how the wife told the husband told him at the end, she knew the marriage was over by the second year but stayed on to get educated. Luckily she paid him back what he spent on her education.

ANother man is absolutely hilarious, he refers to himself as an international playboy. He apparently found a virgin, who promised him she would be a housewife and have his kids. Once she got to the west, she changed her mind, now wants to study.  I seen her pictures, she is an absolute 2017 sloot, married and goes to clubs in a nurse outfit, posts pics of herself in lingerie on instagram, she doesn't even use the fools last name, no pictures of them together. She is embarrassed to been seen with him, but she does compliment on the gifts he buys her. He asked her, do you find me attractive? Her response was, "you are a good man". PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He says she does not want to have sex, but feels like it is her duty. She is getting sex i bet, but the one she "wants", will be from elsewhere, she is in her 20's.


Another fool was a guy that used to tell me about his big dick , omg his past love life was just ridiculous. He would spend his time on a site called travelgirls, tried to tell me it was a good way to meet "marriage" type of women. He found a woman, he told me she moved mountains to be with him. Truth is, she went to the U.S, met him at a party, she was pregnant with a russian mans kid. He took her in, told everyone he was the father of the kid. At the end i believe she went back to russia, and ended things with him, he was about to marry her. He was full of shit, told me he was VERY wealthy, he was maybe had a million or two, but not on the level he proclaimed. Also he told me his son went to oxford, married a girl from a wealthy family, guy never went to oxford, he looked awkward, took selfies in blazers and sunglasses infront of mirrors, zero aesthetics.

I know a few others, but i respect them too much to really go into it.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Gipsy on February 12, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
FFFF springs to mind... :hidechair:

Safest option.. :coffeeread:

FFFF = Find them, feel them, F*** them, forget them..... 

Rinse and repeat.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 09:14:21 AM

This one doesn't strike me as very good wife material.

Not a valid youtube URL
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 12, 2017, 09:43:17 AM

This one doesn't strike me as very good wife material.

Not a valid youtube URL

Only if you're completely blind to a woman's charms.  :chuckle:

(why did it get 102 MILLION hits if the woman isn't good wife material?)

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 12, 2017, 09:55:59 AM
Looks good to me, she's a tryer, wants her man.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 12, 2017, 10:00:36 AM
Looks good to me, she's a tryer, wants her man.

Exactly. How many American women (or UK women) would work as hard as her for what she wants? Not likely many.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 10:13:12 AM

And they keep getting dumber and dumber. She lies to her man and falsely represents herself. She is shallow and materialistic but because she works hard at being a gold digger she has that as a redeeming quality?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 12, 2017, 10:25:47 AM
Someone who lives in the land of bountiful lays but is alone and bitter about a man and a woman getting together in a romantic comedy.  :popcorn:  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 12, 2017, 10:49:15 AM
What is she guilty of?
Wants to look as good as she can, to match with her man and his needs, to escape a life that she does not like - yet she still loves and respects her mum.

I'd be happy to wake up next to her.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 10:50:42 AM
Someone who lives in the land of bountiful lays but is alone and bitter about a man and a woman getting together in a romantic comedy.  :popcorn:  :ROFL:


You remind me of one of Biff Tannan's toadie friends in "Back to the Future"  :chuckle:  You love being around trouble. Probably the real reason why you are attracted to Trump.

I remember one time asking Anteros how old he was. He never answered.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 10:53:52 AM
What is she guilty of?
Wants to look as good as she can, to match with her man and his needs, to escape a life that she does not like - yet she still loves and respects her mum.

I'd be happy to wake up next to her.

Andrew she good enough to FFFF but marry? No disrespect to you, but you've never married and frankly I don't blame you.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 12, 2017, 12:03:14 PM
So, what do you want?
A woman who cares not how she looks?
Cares not about her man and his interests?
Respects not her family?
Is satisfied to not better herself and her life?

Good for you.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 12, 2017, 12:16:13 PM
Someone who lives in the land of bountiful lays but is alone and bitter about a man and a woman getting together in a romantic comedy.  :popcorn:  :ROFL:


You remind me of one of Biff Tannan's toadie friends in "Back to the Future"  :chuckle:  You love being around trouble. Probably the real reason why you are attracted to Trump.

I remember one time asking Anteros how old he was. He never answered.

And you remind me of this song and a character in the film.  :laugh:

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Markje on February 12, 2017, 12:39:26 PM

This one doesn't strike me as very good wife material.

Not a valid youtube URL

Only if you're completely blind to a woman's charms.  :chuckle:

(why did it get 102 MILLION hits if the woman isn't good wife material?)

The woman in the clip is a complete gold-digger. The actress however, I suspect would make very good wife-material. And she's already rich so you can take her to mac-donalds  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 12, 2017, 12:47:16 PM

This one doesn't strike me as very good wife material.


Only if you're completely blind to a woman's charms.  :chuckle:

(why did it get 102 MILLION hits if the woman isn't good wife material?)

The woman in the clip is a complete gold-digger. The actress however, I suspect would make very good wife-material. And she's already rich so you can take her to mac-donalds  :ROFL:

The question now then is if she is the sole gold digger for the man depicted?

It's interesting that different guys see her differently. 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 12, 2017, 01:15:53 PM
What is she guilty of?
Wants to look as good as she can, to match with her man and his needs, to escape a life that she does not like - yet she still loves and respects her mum.

I'd be happy to wake up next to her.

Bingo....
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 12, 2017, 01:17:02 PM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 12, 2017, 01:18:29 PM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Manny on February 12, 2017, 04:36:41 PM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))

In my case, I dont think it would matter if I drove a forklift at Home Depot. As long as there was enough food in the fridge and the roof wasn't leaking, more important I am a decent sort of bloke with shared values.

I get Boris' point entirely, but I think it over-simplistic. Among Home Depot drivers, one will save his money a little, budget properly, have a half-decent and clean home, not be in debt, and be a generally stand up guy his buddies can rely on in times of trouble. Another might be a deadbeat whose salary is gone on debts, wine, women and song 48 hours after he is paid. He spends the rest of the month bumming off his pals to make ends meet. Two very different guys; one would make a decent husband and one not.

Of course, affluent guys will always have more choice; same at home. It's the way of the world (see Donald and Melania for details). But poorer, decent blokes who have their stuff together can do OK too.

Where Home Depot guy falls off the cliff - in the US at least - is his measly two weeks holiday a year. That isnt enough to build a relationship abroad. Every bloke I know in a sound marriage is either self-employed or in a job with enough flexibility it allows one to take time off to chase dreams.......
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 12, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))

In my case, I dont think it would matter if I drove a forklift at Home Depot. As long as there was enough food in the fridge and the roof wasn't leaking, more important I am a decent sort of bloke with shared values.

I get Boris' point entirely, but I think it over-simplistic. Among Home Depot drivers, one will save his money a little, budget properly, have a half-decent and clean home, not be in debt, and be a generally stand up guy his buddies can rely on in times of trouble. Another might be a deadbeat whose salary is gone on debts, wine, women and song 48 hours after he is paid. He spends the rest of the month bumming off his pals to make ends meet. Two very different guys; one would make a decent husband and one not.

Of course, affluent guys will always have more choice; same at home. It's the way of the world (see Donald and Melania for details). But poorer, decent blokes who have their stuff together can do OK too.

Where Home Depot guy falls off the cliff - in the US at least - is his measly two weeks holiday a year. That isnt enough to build a relationship abroad. Every bloke I know in a sound marriage is either self-employed or in a job with enough flexibility it allows one to take time off to chase dreams.......

I agree, Manny. I was just trying to make a quick point. Where the Home Depot guy really has problems is in his razor thin margin of error. Even the the best of guys with only a limited or moderate income can't afford to make many unsuccessful trips. Those of us who have done this have suffered through trips that have failed for a number of reasons. Even though both parties had good intentions. Human relationships can just be plain difficult. Limited money plus limited free time usually ends in disappointment. We have seen it many times here...
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 09:24:37 PM
Someone who lives in the land of bountiful lays but is alone and bitter about a man and a woman getting together in a romantic comedy.  :popcorn:  :ROFL:


You remind me of one of Biff Tannan's toadie friends in "Back to the Future"  :chuckle:  You love being around trouble. Probably the real reason why you are attracted to Trump.

I remember one time asking Anteros how old he was. He never answered.

And you remind me of this song and a character in the film.  :laugh:


I am not a one-trip wonder like you are Anteros. Did you ever find a job?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 12, 2017, 09:35:59 PM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))

In my case, I dont think it would matter if I drove a forklift at Home Depot. As long as there was enough food in the fridge and the roof wasn't leaking, more important I am a decent sort of bloke with shared values.

I get Boris' point entirely, but I think it over-simplistic. Among Home Depot drivers, one will save his money a little, budget properly, have a half-decent and clean home, not be in debt, and be a generally stand up guy his buddies can rely on in times of trouble. Another might be a deadbeat whose salary is gone on debts, wine, women and song 48 hours after he is paid. He spends the rest of the month bumming off his pals to make ends meet. Two very different guys; one would make a decent husband and one not.

Of course, affluent guys will always have more choice; same at home. It's the way of the world (see Donald and Melania for details). But poorer, decent blokes who have their stuff together can do OK too.

Where Home Depot guy falls off the cliff - in the US at least - is his measly two weeks holiday a year. That isnt enough to build a relationship abroad. Every bloke I know in a sound marriage is either self-employed or in a job with enough flexibility it allows one to take time off to chase dreams.......

I agree, Manny. I was just trying to make a quick point. Where the Home Depot guy really has problems is in his razor thin margin of error. Even the the best of guys with only a limited or moderate income can't afford to make many unsuccessful trips. Those of us who have done this have suffered through trips that have failed for a number of reasons. Even though both parties had good intentions. Human relationships can just be plain difficult. Limited money plus limited free time usually ends in disappointment. We have seen it many times here...

And the environment you live in. How much things cost just to provide the basics of life. There is also the legal structure you live under. The immigration rules and the pressure they place on a newly arrived immigrant spouse. Then there is the cost of failure. How punishing divorce is. Under these conditions it would be foolish to hook up with a shallow materialistic gold digger who wants to look good for you but knows that is but a means to an end. The money and most important the location to hook up with a bigger, better deal. The next poor sap that is dazzled by her looks whose got more shekels than you the mule she rode in on.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 13, 2017, 02:13:56 AM
I know a young pretty girl, who lives in Switzerland, migrated from st petersburg. Hooked up with a young ex soldier. THey broke up, as he was indifferent. She now wants to return to russia as she does not like life in Switzerland, she says people don't live good. She has a bit of money, flat in st peters, money in the bank, blah blah blah. She wants me to join her in st peters. It is true, a lot of these women are shocked with the reality of west. Me and my ex actually discussed openly regarding life in the UK, i gave her the truth, gave her the worse of it. She then told me she didn't want to live in the UK, preferred being in russia, she had her own flat, mum was a bank manager, they had a house, flat in moscow also, soon to buy a hotel. If i did bring her back to the UK, she would have been shocked. We talked about her expectations and really it was basic, she wanted a holiday once a year, spend a bit on stuff like $20 dress once a month, and have kids without worrying about stuff. some men think you need to earn $100k a year to keep these women happy. I actually think it is not far from the truth, but i have no idea, at the same time the girl above stayed with her guy despite the financial difficulties. These girls have good lives in russia, so i think their expectations would differ from a girl struggling to make ends meet in russia who would be happy to just be in the west.

I know another girl, with a young bloke, she told me if she migrates to his country, she will sell her flat, and pay for her tuition, and share of rent. The bf is close to 30 i think, he hasn't got much money, she wants to add value to his life, and have kids with him. I know a few guys and girls like this, i have no clue if long term it will work out with them. But the way these women talk and act speaks volumes of their feelings for their man.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 13, 2017, 02:50:14 AM
Someone who lives in the land of bountiful lays but is alone and bitter about a man and a woman getting together in a romantic comedy.  :popcorn:  :ROFL:

You remind me of one of Biff Tannan's toadie friends in "Back to the Future"  :chuckle:  You love being around trouble. Probably the real reason why you are attracted to Trump.

I remember one time asking Anteros how old he was. He never answered.

And you remind me of this song and a character in the film.  :laugh:


I am not a one-trip wonder like you are Anteros. Did you ever find a job?

I doubt that Confederate and Anteros are the same poster - but it would not surprise me that they come from the same genetic pool or donor.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 13, 2017, 03:07:35 AM
I know a young pretty girl, who lives in Switzerland, migrated from st petersburg. Hooked up with a young ex soldier. THey broke up, as he was indifferent. She now wants to return to russia as she does not like life in Switzerland, she says people don't live good. She has a bit of money, flat in st peters, money in the bank, blah blah blah. She wants me to join her in st peters. It is true, a lot of these women are shocked with the reality of west. Me and my ex actually discussed openly regarding life in the UK, i gave her the truth, gave her the worse of it. She then told me she didn't want to live in the UK, preferred being in russia, she had her own flat, mum was a bank manager, they had a house, flat in moscow also, soon to buy a hotel. If i did bring her back to the UK, she would have been shocked. We talked about her expectations and really it was basic, she wanted a holiday once a year, spend a bit on stuff like $20 dress once a month, and have kids without worrying about stuff. some men think you need to earn $100k a year to keep these women happy. I actually think it is not far from the truth, but i have no idea, at the same time the girl above stayed with her guy despite the financial difficulties. These girls have good lives in russia, so i think their expectations would differ from a girl struggling to make ends meet in russia who would be happy to just be in the west.

I know another girl, with a young bloke, she told me if she migrates to his country, she will sell her flat, and pay for her tuition, and share of rent. The bf is close to 30 i think, he hasn't got much money, she wants to add value to his life, and have kids with him. I know a few guys and girls like this, i have no clue if long term it will work out with them. But the way these women talk and act speaks volumes of their feelings for their man.

My daughter in Minneapolis Minnesota makes $30K a year and is as poor as a church mouse. The West isn't always better. Often times comparing the West with the East is like comparing apples and oranges. When the imported women see certain realities of living in the West they often yearn for back home. 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 13, 2017, 03:27:05 AM


My daughter in Minneapolis Minnesota makes $30K a year and is as poor as a church mouse. The West isn't always better. Often times comparing the West with the East is like comparing apples and oranges. When the imported women see certain realities of living in the West they often yearn for back home.

Switzerland girl told me people earning 80k euros a year live good. So for her, that was the figure she saw was good enough to live in capital of Switzerland. If i did meet anyone that i really liked, i think i will just end up living in their country. These days it is way too risky to get married, especially when you import a wife. My ex liked the idea of getting a small house in a farm land in russia, after hearing how demanding some women can be on forums like this, part of me regrets that i broke up with her  ;D
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Ste on February 13, 2017, 03:59:44 AM


My daughter in Minneapolis Minnesota makes $30K a year and is as poor as a church mouse. The West isn't always better. Often times comparing the West with the East is like comparing apples and oranges. When the imported women see certain realities of living in the West they often yearn for back home.

Switzerland girl told me people earning 80k euros a year live good. So for her, that was the figure she saw was good enough to live in capital of Switzerland. If i did meet anyone that i really liked, i think i will just end up living in their country. These days it is way too risky to get married, especially when you import a wife. My ex liked the idea of getting a small house in a farm land in russia, after hearing how demanding some women can be on forums like this, part of me regrets that i broke up with her  ;D

I've done a six-monther in Zurich and you need a lot to live anything other than a hermits life. Think £30 for a takeaway pizza, £8 a pint, £5 for a small cup of tea...

I still have a photo of my £18 jacket potato. £23 for the worst fish and chips I ever had though to be fair I was warned by the proprietor it's not cod or haddock but some weird Swiss fish and it was in Zurich Altstadt, tourist prices...

The capital is no cheaper BTW, but a very pleasant city, possibly my favourite city, Zurich is a bit concrete-y and grey, not to say extremely boring.

I was working for myself but most of the perm guys were on about 120-150k CHF.....



 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Dogsoldier on February 13, 2017, 04:21:14 AM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))
Of course, affluent guys will always have more choice; same at home. It's the way of the world (see Donald and Melania for details). But poorer, decent blokes who have their stuff together can do OK too.
Up to a point, yes. A minimum income level is a must, decency notwithstanding. If you don't meet that standard, no point contemplating this venture.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 13, 2017, 04:57:29 AM


My daughter in Minneapolis Minnesota makes $30K a year and is as poor as a church mouse. The West isn't always better. Often times comparing the West with the East is like comparing apples and oranges. When the imported women see certain realities of living in the West they often yearn for back home.

Switzerland girl told me people earning 80k euros a year live good. So for her, that was the figure she saw was good enough to live in capital of Switzerland. If i did meet anyone that i really liked, i think i will just end up living in their country. These days it is way too risky to get married, especially when you import a wife. My ex liked the idea of getting a small house in a farm land in russia, after hearing how demanding some women can be on forums like this, part of me regrets that i broke up with her  ;D

If I do it again it will be something like that only here in Georgia or a similar place. But first I got to get my health back. If it comes back.



Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 13, 2017, 05:44:28 AM
I wonder how many of the married guys here would still be single if they drove the fork lift at Home Depot. I'm not saying the wives don't love you but I guarantee there was some mental box checking before you got to experience paradise :-)))) Wake the F**K up...:-)))

In my case, I dont think it would matter if I drove a forklift at Home Depot. As long as there was enough food in the fridge and the roof wasn't leaking, more important I am a decent sort of bloke with shared values.

I get Boris' point entirely, but I think it over-simplistic. Among Home Depot drivers, one will save his money a little, budget properly, have a half-decent and clean home, not be in debt, and be a generally stand up guy his buddies can rely on in times of trouble. Another might be a deadbeat whose salary is gone on debts, wine, women and song 48 hours after he is paid. He spends the rest of the month bumming off his pals to make ends meet. Two very different guys; one would make a decent husband and one not.

Of course, affluent guys will always have more choice; same at home. It's the way of the world (see Donald and Melania for details). But poorer, decent blokes who have their stuff together can do OK too.

Where Home Depot guy falls off the cliff - in the US at least - is his measly two weeks holiday a year. That isnt enough to build a relationship abroad. Every bloke I know in a sound marriage is either self-employed or in a job with enough flexibility it allows one to take time off to chase dreams.......

I agree, Manny. I was just trying to make a quick point. Where the Home Depot guy really has problems is in his razor thin margin of error. Even the the best of guys with only a limited or moderate income can't afford to make many unsuccessful trips. Those of us who have done this have suffered through trips that have failed for a number of reasons. Even though both parties had good intentions. Human relationships can just be plain difficult. Limited money plus limited free time usually ends in disappointment. We have seen it many times here...

And the environment you live in. How much things cost just to provide the basics of life. There is also the legal structure you live under. The immigration rules and the pressure they place on a newly arrived immigrant spouse. Then there is the cost of failure. How punishing divorce is. Under these conditions it would be foolish to hook up with a shallow materialistic gold digger who wants to look good for you but knows that is but a means to an end. The money and most important the location to hook up with a bigger, better deal. The next poor sap that is dazzled by her looks whose got more shekels than you the mule she rode in on.

Or if the guy is a twit who owns his own business making 6 figures but marries out of his league, he will be getting divorced and his ex wife will cause him constant problems no matter where he goes to.

Or is it ex wives? You wrote "mule". Was there more than one? No wonder so bitter.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 13, 2017, 08:20:57 AM


My daughter in Minneapolis Minnesota makes $30K a year and is as poor as a church mouse. The West isn't always better. Often times comparing the West with the East is like comparing apples and oranges. When the imported women see certain realities of living in the West they often yearn for back home.

Switzerland girl told me people earning 80k euros a year live good. So for her, that was the figure she saw was good enough to live in capital of Switzerland. If i did meet anyone that i really liked, i think i will just end up living in their country. These days it is way too risky to get married, especially when you import a wife. My ex liked the idea of getting a small house in a farm land in russia, after hearing how demanding some women can be on forums like this, part of me regrets that i broke up with her  ;D

I've done a six-monther in Zurich and you need a lot to live anything other than a hermits life. Think £30 for a takeaway pizza, £8 a pint, £5 for a small cup of tea...

I still have a photo of my £18 jacket potato. £23 for the worst fish and chips I ever had though to be fair I was warned by the proprietor it's not cod or haddock but some weird Swiss fish and it was in Zurich Altstadt, tourist prices...

The capital is no cheaper BTW, but a very pleasant city, possibly my favourite city, Zurich is a bit concrete-y and grey, not to say extremely boring.

I was working for myself but most of the perm guys were on about 120-150k CHF.....

I'm also self employed but live in a town with mostly low cost of living. Fresh cod and chips runs $9 (US), fresh halibut and chips is $15 and at a casual place I know of for lunch I can get a fresh salmon meal for $18. Take away Pizza as low as $8 (bake yourself) but the really good place with an excellent Pizza runs about $16 for small or $18 for medium.

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 13, 2017, 08:28:00 AM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 13, 2017, 11:45:46 AM
Or if the guy is a twit who owns his own business making 6 figures but marries out of his league, he will be getting divorced and his ex wife will cause him constant problems no matter where he goes to.

Everyone please note how I removed the unrelated dialog, it took three
seconds or less.


Most guys go to the FSU for an upgrade over what's available locally.
One guys upgrade is another guys impossibility. Pursuing FSUW is an
impossible dream for the gullible, oblivious and foolish.   

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 13, 2017, 02:48:30 PM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:

I dated a girl who traveled from south of russia to moscow to see me. When we met, she brought me shopping, refused to take money. ANy gifts i bought her was thrown with "don't waste your money on me, only when we are married". We conversated online, she told me she was not talking to anybody, i didn't believe her. Well turned out to be true, i logged onto her profile, whole list of unopened messages. SHe was 5'11, in her early 20's, worked in a bank, previous she wanted to be a model, but her dad did not let her go to moscow, so instead she appeared in fashion shows


SHe was sexually inexperienced, never been with another guy. I won't go into too much detail, but it was the worse sex but at the same time the best sex i ever had. We tried out different things, each time her eyes popped when i showed her something new, she would say "omg", but after wouldn't be able to decide what position she liked the best, and just say "i like it all".

When we met i was MGTOW, told her after that i never wanted to get married. It did get to her a bit, but she moved on. My feelings changed when i met her family, grandparents, spent some time with her, but by then the damage was done. She couldn't forgive the fact that i previously didn't ever want to get married. We spoke a lot, went for walks, talked late in the night about everything, about life the uk, russia. She took very good care of me whilst i was in russia, made sure i was having fun, each weekend she would push her parents and friends to take me out with her, hot springs, mountains, quad biking, BBQ.

She was pretty cold, didn't show affections unless she had to, which i found a bit odd. I was used to russian women message me weird crap, excited to see my messages, and here i have a girl who is doing all the right things, but not saying what i expected. There was a lot of friction in the end, i broke up with her a few times, she repaired it, or we just talked and resolved it. Day prior to me leaving, i told her i had enough, she said fine, but i am taking you to the airport, i told her i could make my own way, but she resisted, said i was a guest in her city so she was responsible for taking me, we got to the airport, and i tried to resolve things once again on the day i was leaving. She accepted, but kept calling me an idiot, angry, she took me to the airport, and was still pissed. I made her a hand written love letter, after we parted in the airport, i told her to look in her bag. She went crazy, told me how sorry she was, how much she loved me, regretted how she behaved (it was my fault honestly). Whilst i was in the UK we just talked about me moving down to russia and living with her, but she acted a bit weird, i asked her jokingly will you wait up for me? she laughed and said no. My heart dropped, she said she wanted to test my reaction, but i just ended it, she rang me a few times, trying to patch things up, saying how she loved me blah blah blah, i accepted, but i just couldn't get over it, we were back to square one and i decided it was just not going to work.

Anyways, that is my russian romance story. I am going back in july, i haven't been searching for last couple of months, but i got a few contacts. As i am getting older, i am just getting better looking, things around me are changing also. Not sure if i am ready to get married just yet, life seems too fun, and the possibilities seem endless. I am more interested in having a good relationship, than i am of marrying someone.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 13, 2017, 07:16:53 PM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:

I dated a girl who traveled from south of russia to moscow to see me. When we met, she brought me shopping, refused to take money. ANy gifts i bought her was thrown with "don't waste your money on me, only when we are married". We conversated online, she told me she was not talking to anybody, i didn't believe her. Well turned out to be true, i logged onto her profile, whole list of unopened messages. SHe was 5'11, in her early 20's, worked in a bank, previous she wanted to be a model, but her dad did not let her go to moscow, so instead she appeared in fashion shows


SHe was sexually inexperienced, never been with another guy. I won't go into too much detail, but it was the worse sex but at the same time the best sex i ever had. We tried out different things, each time her eyes popped when i showed her something new, she would say "omg", but after wouldn't be able to decide what position she liked the best, and just say "i like it all".

When we met i was MGTOW, told her after that i never wanted to get married. It did get to her a bit, but she moved on. My feelings changed when i met her family, grandparents, spent some time with her, but by then the damage was done. She couldn't forgive the fact that i previously didn't ever want to get married. We spoke a lot, went for walks, talked late in the night about everything, about life the uk, russia. She took very good care of me whilst i was in russia, made sure i was having fun, each weekend she would push her parents and friends to take me out with her, hot springs, mountains, quad biking, BBQ.

She was pretty cold, didn't show affections unless she had to, which i found a bit odd. I was used to russian women message me weird crap, excited to see my messages, and here i have a girl who is doing all the right things, but not saying what i expected. There was a lot of friction in the end, i broke up with her a few times, she repaired it, or we just talked and resolved it. Day prior to me leaving, i told her i had enough, she said fine, but i am taking you to the airport, i told her i could make my own way, but she resisted, said i was a guest in her city so she was responsible for taking me, we got to the airport, and i tried to resolve things once again on the day i was leaving. She accepted, but kept calling me an idiot, angry, she took me to the airport, and was still pissed. I made her a hand written love letter, after we parted in the airport, i told her to look in her bag. She went crazy, told me how sorry she was, how much she loved me, regretted how she behaved (it was my fault honestly). Whilst i was in the UK we just talked about me moving down to russia and living with her, but she acted a bit weird, i asked her jokingly will you wait up for me? she laughed and said no. My heart dropped, she said she wanted to test my reaction, but i just ended it, she rang me a few times, trying to patch things up, saying how she loved me blah blah blah, i accepted, but i just couldn't get over it, we were back to square one and i decided it was just not going to work.

Anyways, that is my russian romance story. I am going back in july, i haven't been searching for last couple of months, but i got a few contacts. As i am getting older, i am just getting better looking, things around me are changing also. Not sure if i am ready to get married just yet, life seems too fun, and the possibilities seem endless. I am more interested in having a good relationship, than i am of marrying someone.

Are you somewhere around 25 years old? When lightning strikes you must seize the opportunity. No back and forth, no confusion. She was it, but too late now. Next time, if you get a next time (a sizzling hot one like that) you'll be ready.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 01:23:38 AM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:

That helps me understand you a lot and about your view of what is "good marriage material." Thank you. Although I might be only 8 years your senior we seem to be from a completely different generation and value system. When the disco era of the 70s came I being a young man seen it as something shallow mindless sheep followed. I will confess I like Alicia Bridges "I Like The Nightlife" (1978) a lot. Just not enough to go buy a silk disco shirt or white Travolta outfit and snort cocaine at Studio 54.

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 02:02:12 AM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:

That helps me understand you a lot and about your view of what is "good marriage material." Thank you. Although I might be only 8 years your senior we seem to be from a completely different generation and value system. When the disco era of the 70s came I being a young man seen it as something shallow mindless sheep followed. I will confess I like Alicia Bridges "I Like The Nightlife" (1978) a lot. Just not enough to go buy a silk disco shirt or white Travolta outfit and snort cocaine at Studio 54.


You made a comment about me being alone in a "land of easy lays :smokin:." First off Georgia is not a "land of easy lays." If you read 2TallBill's trip report "Georgia Peaches" you will see how guarded Georgian women are. In Bill's case even meeting with him with a friend to have tea at a corner cafe was near impossible. On expat forums here in Georgia I've read from expats and contributing Georgians that very few Georgian/Western marriages have been observed. Georgians are hospitable but just not much into intermarriage with those outside their culture and religion. I posted this not in my defense but in the defense of Georgian women.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 14, 2017, 07:37:02 AM
Are you somewhere around 25 years old? When lightning strikes you must seize the opportunity. No back and forth, no confusion. She was it, but too late now. Next time, if you get a next time (a sizzling hot one like that) you'll be ready.


Took a while for guys from other forum to figure out who I am. I will Just say, guys here seem to be less full of shit in their senior years. Short answer is yes.

I think me and my ex met at the wrong time. Beautiful women? I rejected one girl who screamed of natural beauty so I could meet up with my ex just recently she forgave me and back in contact, but it is weak. I have another girl in Moscow who is very independent, and Very very beautiful, both of who I would say are prettier. But I doubt I will meet someone like my ex, she was elegant, self assured, confident, cook ,and would of made the best housewife. I am looking for a relationship and just that, possibly move to Russia if I like them. I am more like you, In the sense of I don't want to be with them because I must, but because we both want to.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Dogsoldier on February 14, 2017, 08:50:58 AM
Are you somewhere around 25 years old? When lightning strikes you must seize the opportunity. No back and forth, no confusion. She was it, but too late now. Next time, if you get a next time (a sizzling hot one like that) you'll be ready.


Took a while for guys from other forum to figure out who I am. I will Just say, guys here seem to be less full of shit in their senior years. Short answer is yes.

I think me and my ex met at the wrong time. Beautiful women? I rejected one girl who screamed of natural beauty so I could meet up with my ex just recently she forgave me and back in contact, but it is weak. I have another girl in Moscow who is very independent, and Very very beautiful, both of who I would say are prettier. But I doubt I will meet someone like my ex, she was elegant, self assured, confident, cook ,and would of made the best housewife. I am looking for a relationship and just that, possibly move to Russia if I like them. I am more like you, In the sense of I don't want to be with them because I must, but because we both want to.
Dragonkid?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 08:54:30 AM
Some of the guys here are mad because she is out of their league. Girls like that are common in fsu, not impossible to find someone that beautiful, but goes back to the original point, if you are ugly as  :censored: , i got some bad news for you..... Plus the guy in the video is not bad looking, he gives off the calm alpha vibe, and is successful. If it was a 45-year-old with a beer belly, you guys would maybe be talking about his so called game, and intelligence. Most here are married to gold diggers, only difference is, they are not so hot gold diggers.

I'm 55 with a small beer belly & my GF is 38. She has her own job her own place and pays her own bills. I don't believe in slavery marriage and neither does she.

She says she's leaving town next week and leaving me to go shack up with a wealthy Chinese guy, high-roller type in the big city. I told her go right ahead and have a good time. Told her make sure he buys her some new outfits and especially some new lingerie. He'll kick her to the curb 4 or 5 weeks for next flavor of the month and she'll come groveling back to me. At least she'll have some new outfits to wear.  :laugh:

Of course she wants me to give her a good bye :censored: before she leaves. Whatever.  :smokin:

That helps me understand you a lot and about your view of what is "good marriage material." Thank you. Although I might be only 8 years your senior we seem to be from a completely different generation and value system. When the disco era of the 70s came I being a young man seen it as something shallow mindless sheep followed. I will confess I like Alicia Bridges "I Like The Nightlife" (1978) a lot. Just not enough to go buy a silk disco shirt or white Travolta outfit and snort cocaine at Studio 54.


You made a comment about me being alone in a "land of easy lays :smokin:." First off Georgia is not a "land of easy lays." If you read 2TallBill's trip report "Georgia Peaches" you will see how guarded Georgian women are. In Bill's case even meeting with him with a friend to have tea at a corner cafe was near impossible. On expat forums here in Georgia I've read from expats and contributing Georgians that very few Georgian/Western marriages have been observed. Georgians are hospitable but just not much into intermarriage with those outside their culture and religion. I posted this not in my defense but in the defense of Georgian women.

"Friend" I don't know who "2tallBill" is. If a gent makes an effort and he has some charm about him he can get dates and get laid anywhere he is. I doubt if it's much different in Georgia and in fact you've got more spare change than the average guy over there. Get your health sorted and then you may be in a better mood.

and if Georgian women are really so uptight then date a professional. you would benefit.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 08:59:19 AM
Are you somewhere around 25 years old? When lightning strikes you must seize the opportunity. No back and forth, no confusion. She was it, but too late now. Next time, if you get a next time (a sizzling hot one like that) you'll be ready.


Took a while for guys from other forum to figure out who I am. I will Just say, guys here seem to be less full of shit in their senior years. Short answer is yes.

I think me and my ex met at the wrong time. Beautiful women? I rejected one girl who screamed of natural beauty so I could meet up with my ex just recently she forgave me and back in contact, but it is weak. I have another girl in Moscow who is very independent, and Very very beautiful, both of who I would say are prettier. But I doubt I will meet someone like my ex, she was elegant, self assured, confident, cook ,and would of made the best housewife. I am looking for a relationship and just that, possibly move to Russia if I like them. I am more like you, In the sense of I don't want to be with them because I must, but because we both want to.

That's the only way to be.  :thumbsup: You're at a great age to have some fun but don't let a good one who respects and wants you as much as you do her slip by.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 14, 2017, 09:53:08 AM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 09:59:56 AM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.

he said the woman in the video was a "gold digger" and would not even give her a slight chance with that attitude. 

not that she would give him a slight chance either 'cause he's probably too tight to enjoy some company.

could be that the attitude going in has somethin' to do with the results coming out. can't really know absent an open mind and willingness to practice some social courtesy. and then when in practice with the one; you meet the other who is who you is really meant to be with. But sour grapes stay home and rot.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.

he said the woman in the video was a "gold digger" and would not even give her a slight chance with that attitude. 

not that she would give him a slight chance either 'cause he's probably too tight to enjoy some company.

could be that the attitude going in has somethin' to do with the results coming out. can't really know absent an open mind and willingness to practice some social courtesy. and then when in practice with the one; you meet the other who is who you is really meant to be with. But sour grapes stay home and rot.  :coffeeread:

Pure idiot. Doomed to failure.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.

Oh Andrew, I expect better from you. You're just funning with us.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.

he said the woman in the video was a "gold digger" and would not even give her a slight chance with that attitude. 

not that she would give him a slight chance either 'cause he's probably too tight to enjoy some company.

could be that the attitude going in has somethin' to do with the results coming out. can't really know absent an open mind and willingness to practice some social courtesy. and then when in practice with the one; you meet the other who is who you is really meant to be with. But sour grapes stay home and rot.  :coffeeread:

Pure idiot. Doomed to failure.

You is some kind of special malfunction, ain't ya. Spent several pages complaining bout your ex wife and how she'd never  change in the other section. Malfunctions like you ne'er do take good look in the mirror.

Belly ached that yer feelins was hurt so I would stay outta "your thread". Come over here with more belly achin' en it turns out you is twice divorced.

A sad sack twice failed and who knows what them gals would say about you if they had a chance here. I have no failures with women cause I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.

You iz a waitin' to die you're such a sad sack with bad health but come here meantime to complain about all the mess's you got yourself into. Stay in 'yer other section mr. sad sack this one is for winners. your car was rekt but it could be fixed or replaced. Can't fix stupid, lazy an' who me I dind to nuthin wrong -- it's all her/their fault.  :sick0012:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Ste on February 14, 2017, 12:32:39 PM
Yes, I think that Maxx has a somewhat jaundiced view of the world in this regard. After all, if he were right then the population of the place would be falling at a rapid rate due to lack of intercourse (social and sexual) going on.

he said the woman in the video was a "gold digger" and would not even give her a slight chance with that attitude. 

not that she would give him a slight chance either 'cause he's probably too tight to enjoy some company.

could be that the attitude going in has somethin' to do with the results coming out. can't really know absent an open mind and willingness to practice some social courtesy. and then when in practice with the one; you meet the other who is who you is really meant to be with. But sour grapes stay home and rot.  :coffeeread:

Pure idiot. Doomed to failure.

You is some kind of special malfunction, ain't ya. Spent several pages complaining bout your ex wife and how she'd never  change in the other section. Malfunctions like you ne'er do take good look in the mirror.

Belly ached that yer feelins was hurt so I would stay outta "your thread". Come over here with more belly achin' en it turns out you is twice divorced.

A sad sack twice failed and who knows what them gals would say about you if they had a chance here. I have no failures with women cause I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.

You iz a waitin' to die you're such a sad sack with bad health but come here meantime to complain about all the mess's you got yourself into. Stay in 'yer other section mr. sad sack this one is for winners. your car was rekt but it could be fixed or replaced. Can't fix stupid, lazy an' who me I dind to nuthin wrong -- it's all her/their fault.  :sick0012:

Pretty uncalled for that.

Maxx has been around these forums for years of course he's made mistakes but at least he'll stick around and share his trials and tribulations instead of posting endless unfunny 'political' cartoons.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 14, 2017, 12:35:10 PM

 I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.


Is that in the sheep fold, pig sty or down in the pasture?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 12:42:47 PM

 I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.


Is that in the sheep fold, pig sty or down in the pasture?

 tiphat

In this town you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference at times but be patient and a looker comes a long. Others ain't cocky enough but if you is you get the pleasure.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 12:51:45 PM
Pretty uncalled for that.

Maxx has been around these forums for years of course he's made mistakes but at least he'll stick around and share his trials and tribulations instead of posting endless unfunny 'political' cartoons.

bullocks. if I ever become such a sad sack always pointin' finger at past women give it to me straight. or jes' shoot me.

I stayed outta his other thread as a courtesy and he followed over here.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 14, 2017, 12:55:11 PM

 I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.


Is that in the sheep fold, pig sty or down in the pasture?

 tiphat

In this town you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference at times but be patient and a looker comes a long. Others ain't cocky enough but if you is you get the pleasure.

Confederate,  tiphat  I must say as a compliment that is a very measured response ~ You earned brownie points.

But please stay away from any brownies.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 12:57:11 PM

 I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.


Is that in the sheep fold, pig sty or down in the pasture?

 tiphat

In this town you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference at times but be patient and a looker comes a long. Others ain't cocky enough but if you is you get the pleasure.

Confederate,  tiphat  I must say as a compliment that is a very measured response ~ You earned brownie points.

But please stay away from any brownies.

what if they have some mary jane in 'em?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 14, 2017, 12:59:02 PM

That's the only way to be.  :thumbsup: You're at a great age to have some fun but don't let a good one who respects and wants you as much as you do her slip by.


My ex i regret, i would be lying if i didn't, not because of beauty, in all honesty, women like that are plentiful in Russia, but because i knew she had the values i respected. I did talk to her after, and she told me her friend found her an acting role in a tv show, she was telling me she met this guy who is interested in her, but she is not stupid enough to think he wants her. He has plenty of women after him.The short story is, the two of them ended up getting together, and now are to get married. I saw his photo on her whatsapp, really good looking guy, not your typical russian dude. She found someone she believed was better than her. I used to run a youtube channel, stand up comical vlogging, managed to get 10k subscribers in 6 months, simply switching on a camera, talking, then upload. No edits. People at my university found me randomly, when i quit, i had a random girl approach me and tell me she loved my videos, and to continue. I am naturally a ballsy person, when i am with a girl i can make them laugh. My focus now is to just hit the gym, make more money, everything else follows. There will always be beautiful women in russia, even more when i am in better condition.I am not your typical 65 year old that talks about the size of his cock. I think a lot of guys who do get married abroad, are financially successful and hit a physical limit in their life. For me however, everything is changing rapidly, i am not way close to being at that stage of my life where i feel, "this is it,nowhere else to go but down". I want to continue dating Russians, who knows i might meet someone i really like and adore, but my standards are pretty high.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 14, 2017, 12:59:44 PM

 I never bite off more that I can chew 'en if one leaves there's always more waiting.


Is that in the sheep fold, pig sty or down in the pasture?

 tiphat

In this town you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference at times but be patient and a looker comes a long. Others ain't cocky enough but if you is you get the pleasure.

Confederate,  tiphat  I must say as a compliment that is a very measured response ~ You earned brownie points.

But please stay away from any brownies.

what if they have some mary jane in 'em?  :laugh:


tiphat   :ROFL:   :8)

what ever rocks your boat
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 02:13:43 PM

That's the only way to be.  :thumbsup: You're at a great age to have some fun but don't let a good one who respects and wants you as much as you do her slip by.


My ex i regret, i would be lying if i didn't, not because of beauty, in all honesty, women like that are plentiful in Russia, but because i knew she had the values i respected. I did talk to her after, and she told me her friend found her an acting role in a tv show, she was telling me she met this guy who is interested in her, but she is not stupid enough to think he wants her. He has plenty of women after him.The short story is, the two of them ended up getting together, and now are to get married. I saw his photo on her whatsapp, really good looking guy, not your typical russian dude. She found someone she believed was better than her. I used to run a youtube channel, stand up comical vlogging, managed to get 10k subscribers in 6 months, simply switching on a camera, talking, then upload. No edits. People at my university found me randomly, when i quit, i had a random girl approach me and tell me she loved my videos, and to continue. I am naturally a ballsy person, when i am with a girl i can make them laugh. My focus now is to just hit the gym, make more money, everything else follows. There will always be beautiful women in russia, even more when i am in better condition.I am not your typical 65 year old that talks about the size of his cock. I think a lot of guys who do get married abroad, are financially successful and hit a physical limit in their life. For me however, everything is changing rapidly, i am not way close to being at that stage of my life where i feel, "this is it,nowhere else to go but down". I want to continue dating Russians, who knows i might meet someone i really like and adore, but my standards are pretty high.

You have a lot going on for yourself and that's great. Good outlook on life and willing to roll with the punches. Probably she wasn't "the one" but she was close and it gave you a great idea about things you hope for.

A wise boss once said to me: "don't go into a job making demands and having certain expectations. remember they will or will not want to hire you because they feel you are the one who meets their expectations".

you seem on your way to being able to provide and meet her expectations. if it's mutual and timing is right you'll both know it. when it happens take her off the market. gym helps you feel better but mental always more important. I think you know that. have a good time!  tiphat
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 05:46:47 PM

I stayed outta his other thread as a courtesy and he followed over here.

I skim read your posts if I read them at all. I read this and thought maybe this was your thread? So I checked and it's not. So I can't post on threads YOU post on?

As far as "belly achin" about the ex. Ask anyone that has known me for years if I ever mentioned her in the past. She was a non topic for me. I mention her now because she affected my life in Georgia. I had to go back to the US on account of her. People here ask me why and ask me why I don't do this or that. So I tell them. But this is lost on you.

And what is this about your claim of never having a failure with women? Isn't your girlfriend about to throw you over to go shack up with some rich Chinese guy?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: AvHdB on February 14, 2017, 06:28:26 PM
Only Manny owns threads. Though some of our women own rags.

We may start/begin or sometimes threads are split off of others, Andrew, B/B, Confederate, Danchik, Enthusiast . . . , Maxx and even Moby can reply as they see fit. In general insults and name calling get polished away.

Lets try to stay civil.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 14, 2017, 06:34:34 PM
And what is this about your claim of never having a failure with women? Isn't your girlfriend about to throw you over to go shack up with some rich Chinese guy?

read the whole post. she's flustered because I won't play her game. she can leave, she can have fun & it doesn't bother me.

it's not a failure because I'm not financially obligated to her. she knows I have other options and she knows a wealthy guy in a big city is only going to be interested in her a short time.

I would only ever marry a woman who made as much or more than myself. I would not marry a foreign gal and bring her to the usa.

I wear the pants and my motto is easy come easy go; next!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 14, 2017, 06:36:41 PM
And what is this about your claim of never having a failure with women? Isn't your girlfriend about to throw you over to go shack up with some rich Chinese guy?

read the whole post. she's flustered because I won't play her game. she can leave, she can have fun & it doesn't bother me.

it's not a failure because I'm not financially obligated to her. she knows I have other options and she knows a wealthy guy in a big city is only going to be interested in her a short time.

I would only ever marry a woman who made as much or more than myself. I would not marry a foreign gal and bring her to the usa.

I wear the pants and my motto is easy come easy go; next!  :chuckle:

You make sense. Peace.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 15, 2017, 12:41:43 AM
And what is this about your claim of never having a failure with women? Isn't your girlfriend about to throw you over to go shack up with some rich Chinese guy?

read the whole post. she's flustered because I won't play her game. she can leave, she can have fun & it doesn't bother me.

it's not a failure because I'm not financially obligated to her. she knows I have other options and she knows a wealthy guy in a big city is only going to be interested in her a short time.

I would only ever marry a woman who made as much or more than myself. I would not marry a foreign gal and bring her to the usa.

I wear the pants and my motto is easy come easy go; next!  :chuckle:

You make sense. Peace.


That is MGTOW right there. Some guys need to get married as all they have is financial leverage on a woman. If marriage is off the table, most wouldn't give you the time of day. Confederate actually explained the value system, his gf knows she can only find a wealthy guy that will use her as a toy, atleast with confederate she gets a relationship but the only problem for her is she is not financially connected to him. MGTOW is by far the hardest thing you could do, because it forces you to bring a lot to the table just to keep a woman around, and i am not talking only financial leverage. MGTOW for some forces you to grow, for others they simply lock themselves away and say women are a waste, gold diggers, and whores.



You have a lot going on for yourself and that's great. Good outlook on life and willing to roll with the punches. Probably she wasn't "the one" but she was close and it gave you a great idea about things you hope for.

She was close, but still had those strange values. She reminded me a lot of my mother, and two of them have similar mentality.


you seem on your way to being able to provide and meet her expectations. if it's mutual and timing is right you'll both know it. when it happens take her off the market.

Well put, i could find someone , hook up with them, but when i know i am ready to get married, i want to be able to tell myself, "this is it, don't kid yourself, you won't get any better than this, and you know it".
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 01:42:56 AM

There is an issue that is often forgotten in discussions like this, the future. We have a tendency to think only of the 'here and now.' The reality that is often forgotten is the clock is ticking. Someday we all will be in the state that Andrewfi so accurately described years ago, "An advanced state of decrepitude." A state I most recently seen with my dying mother and at the nursing home where I stayed for my physical rehabilitation and I personally felt unable to walk or go to the bathroom without help. I noticed at the nursing home that those people without wives and husbands by their side suffered the most. I know this is a subject that most people push to the back of their minds. Probably more so by men who are in pursuit of younger women. But wouldn't be wise to consider finding a woman and family that will honor the marriage vows of "till death do we part"? Those were my thoughts when I posted my comment about the hottie in the video. She's OK for a younger man who can afford to throw away some years of his life if it goes bust.

"Forty is the old age of youth, fifty is the youth of old age" ~ Victor Hugo

   So what's it for us over 50 and me over 60?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 15, 2017, 02:23:58 AM

There is an issue that is often forgotten in discussions like this, the future. We have a tendency to think only of the 'here and now.' The reality that is often forgotten is the clock is ticking. Someday we all will be in the state that Andrewfi so accurately described years ago, "An advanced state of decrepitude."

People tend to worry about things that may not even happen, i could die before i reach age of immobility. Why worry about what life will be like at 70? But i agree with you to a certain extent, which is why i am not a fan of "pump and dump", well not with russian women that is  ;D

But wouldn't be wise to consider finding a woman and family that will honor the marriage vows of "till death do we part"?

Yes it would, but the vast majority of guys who go abroad do not find that. They find a financial contract, woman trades sex for money. I heard of stories of where the woman are counting the days when their husband will pass away. He has no idea how vile she actually is. Men who married women that created drifts between their biological and step kids from previous marriages, so they can get a bigger share of the estate. Don't get me started with the guys used as financial mule's to help their wives get educated, and into careers then left for dust. If a relationship is on the condition that someone needs to sign a contract, giving half of his shit to a woman, then where is the love? Is love defined by financial commitment, or two people staying with each other to keep each other company? That is where i feel most guys go wrong, they have nothing more to offer than financial commitment.

If a man can tame a lion, make her stick around even though she has no financial connection to him, chances are she is interested in him, and not what he has to offer. I dated women where they knew i was MGTOW, did it effect them? Yes, but they accepted it as they were interested in me, and my company. 

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 15, 2017, 03:32:46 AM


You made a comment about me being alone in a "land of easy lays :smokin:." First off Georgia is not a "land of easy lays." If you read 2TallBill's trip report "Georgia Peaches" you will see how guarded Georgian women are. In Bill's case even meeting with him with a friend to have tea at a corner cafe was near impossible.

2tallbill thinks being quick witted is asking a woman want colour panties they are wearing, or asking them what days are they on their period so he could skip those days. There is a reason why he spent 6 figures and countless trips to the fsu, he has no stomach. He can find women who want easy lays, and that is about it. He expects a woman to drop their knickers on the 2nd date, and stop their life because he asked them out for tea in the first opening message. What exactly is the man offering?

I agree, Armenia, and Georgia is a hard nut to crack, plus you are in bad health. I doubt you will bump into a woman who will just want to use you, they probably want a healthy male they can have a prosperous relationship with. I talked to a few older women from armenia to give me an idea of the younger girls in the country, most of them are not willing to relocate, so it is a different ball game from dating russian/ukrainian women. In my opinion it is the best country to settle down if you are an expat, but don't expect quick lays, unless you are offering more than just being an average bloke.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 15, 2017, 05:17:55 AM
Chickenbrah, you ain't far off I reckon.

A while back I wrote about how, for older blokes in backwater places things can be a little tough. Nothing 'cultural' as such, but rather practical. Georgian blokes can expect to live, on average to 70 years of age, about 6.5 years less than even the USA. A woman there in her fifties will be accustomed to her male colleagues, family and former schoolmates dropping off their twigs for a long time.

A bloke of Maxx's age is simply not a good bet for a woman seeking a life other than as a carer and unpaid nurse.

The thing is, of course that even in Georgia a bloke who lasts to 65 is likely to last until he is 78/79 and a USAian of the same age is good for another five years after that, but the Georgian woman won't know that. Maxx, of course, has health issues and is thus waving a big red flag around every time he speaks to a woman. Overcoming those obstacles means that the other elements of the marketing mix have to be VERY strong. That means a bloke needs to be very dependable, personable with a great attitude and a decent amount of wallet action is, pretty much, a given.

The thing is that every Georgian woman is looking at Maxx (and other foreign blokes) through the lens of experience and expectations. She does not know that a USAian has a good decade or so of life ahead of him, as compared to the local bloke. She is not accustomed to seeing 'burly fellows' with a clear history of pie eating living a long life. In addition, she has the expectation of the 'rich foreigner' and is going to expect something more than local standards of wealth and spending.

Take all that, factor in language issues, religion and cultural stuff and it gets much harder.

Fortunately, most of us are not Maxx. But I reckon that with some attitude adjustment, continued work on the health stuff and some intensive language learning that there's some 60ish year old woman with Maxx's name tattooed on her heart!

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Ste on February 15, 2017, 05:27:07 AM
Chickenbrah, you ain't far off I reckon.

A while back I wrote about how, for older blokes in backwater places things can be a little tough. Nothing 'cultural' as such, but rather practical. Georgian blokes can expect to live, on average to 70 years of age, about 6.5 years less than even the USA. A woman there in her fifties will be accustomed to her male colleagues, family and former schoolmates dropping off their twigs for a long time.

A bloke of Maxx's age is simply not a good bet for a woman seeking a life other than as a carer and unpaid nurse.

The thing is, of course that even in Georgia a bloke who lasts to 65 is likely to last until he is 78/79 and a USAian of the same age is good for another five years after that, but the Georgian woman won't know that. Maxx, of course, has health issues and is thus waving a big red flag around every time he speaks to a woman. Overcoming those obstacles means that the other elements of the marketing mix have to be VERY strong. That means a bloke needs to be very dependable, personable with a great attitude and a decent amount of wallet action is, pretty much, a given.

The thing is that every Georgian woman is looking at Maxx (and other foreign blokes) through the lens of experience and expectations. She does not know that a USAian has a good decade or so of life ahead of him, as compared to the local bloke. She is not accustomed to seeing 'burly fellows' with a clear history of pie eating living a long life. In addition, she has the expectation of the 'rich foreigner' and is going to expect something more than local standards of wealth and spending.

Take all that, factor in language issues, religion and cultural stuff and it gets much harder.

Fortunately, most of us are not Maxx. But I reckon that with some attitude adjustment, continued work on the health stuff and some intensive language learning that there's some 60ish year old woman with Maxx's name tattooed on her heart!

Aim high. Jennifer Lawrence is single. I met her in London three months back at a Cisco Firewall conference, she's a right laugh and knows a lot about Cisco iOS and stateful packet analysis. And she gave me her number.

Think I input it into my iPhone wrong though or misheard, '4' doesn't seem to be enough digits for a proper number. I keep calling it but it doesn't work.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 15, 2017, 05:34:02 AM
Practical thought number two for the day:

If you only have five years left to live don't plan as if you have 30!

When you get old you can afford to figure that if you can put up with each other for five or six years then that's all you really need.

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 05:57:19 AM
moved to down below to quote the "wiseonefi."  :)
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 06:03:09 AM
Practical thought number two for the day:

If you only have five years left to live don't plan as if you have 30!

When you get old you can afford to figure that if you can put up with each other for five or six years then that's all you really need.

Except you'll need to fund a nurse if it is not "till death do us part."
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 06:07:12 AM
Fortunately, most of us are not Maxx. But I reckon that with some attitude adjustment, continued work on the health stuff and some intensive language learning that there's some 60ish year old woman with Maxx's name tattooed on her heart!

Oh man, you guys are tough.  :chuckle:   And 2Tall never gave me that impression. He strikes me as and all round good guy and I think doing quite well with his beautiful Misses "Angel Eyes." Nice little family there.

I'm over in Georgia mostly because I can get by on about half of my Social Security nicely. To live in America I would have to get on some social programs like Section 8 housing and sign up to the local food shelf.  Here I'm betting I could travel the world a few times a year going the economy route. There are lots of places that have a low cost of living like Georgia, Ecuador as example, that have ATM machine that spit out the money I get every third of the month.

Unlike most of you guys I don't have any debts, monthly obligations in my home country to finance and I get a steady tax free money every month. AND I have savings for emergencies. I don't have expensive tastes or needs. No smoking habit to fund. But the most important thing I got going is I don't have the curse most of you have. I do not lust after young women. I do not see them as something I am entitled to. I would be more than glad to find a sexy grandma who doesn't want to leave her home country, children, grandchildren, apartment and business. And Andrew I don't think she needs to be in her sixties either. Late forties early mid-fifties seem young to me. These women are the mothers of the women most of you pursue.

After the above I may have to leave this board on account I won't fit in here anymore  :hidechair: 

 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 06:12:58 AM

Aim high. Jennifer Lawrence is single. I met her in London three months back at a Cisco Firewall conference, she's a right laugh and knows a lot about Cisco iOS and stateful packet analysis. And she gave me her number.

Think I input it into my iPhone wrong though or misheard, '4' doesn't seem to be enough digits for a proper number. I keep calling it but it doesn't work.

You think it is possible Jennifer Lawrence gave you the wrong number on purpose?  :duh: 
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 15, 2017, 07:14:39 AM


Oh man, you guys are tough.  :chuckle:   And 2Tall never gave me that impression. He strikes me as and all round good guy and I think doing quite well with his beautiful Misses "Angel Eyes." Nice little family there.


Bert: I said you still have that banana in your ear!

Ernie: (loudly) Yeah, I know!

Bert: You know? But why did you put it in your ear?

Ernie: Listen, Bert, (loudly) I use this banana to keep alligators away!

Bert: Alligators??? Ernie, there are no alligators on Sesame Street!

Ernie: Right! Works pretty good, doesn’t it, Bert? Keeheeheeheee!

just because he is married and has a nice family, does not mean his method worked well. His method is just as i described. That is why it never worked in Georgia, or any woman who has standards. When i was with my ex, she pushed me to go visit other girls. How do you think that would have worked out? Dumped me the very minute. If you want something GOOD, you will need to go the extra mile, which is not something 2tallbill comprehends. Some women have standards. Though the man is a nice guy, and for his age looks great, which is why he succeeded never the less.

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 08:10:30 AM

just because he is married and has a nice family, does not mean his method worked well. His method is just as i described. That is why it never worked in Georgia, or any woman who has standards. When i was with my ex, she pushed me to go visit other girls. How do you think that would have worked out? Dumped me the very minute. If you want something GOOD, you will need to go the extra mile, which is not something 2tallbill comprehends. Some women have standards. Though the man is a nice guy, and for his age looks great, which is why he succeeded never the less.

He seems OK to me. I'll certainly give him the benefit of the doubt. Same for Moby and others around here who are not popular. But the part you wrote about standards is interesting and going the extra mile. You can luck out and get a quality woman without effort or you can spend the time to show that you are a quality person and find one that way. Another advantage I have is I am over there and I have the time. Unless you are looking at that like some here that I am about to drop over dead from old age. I'm positively young compared to TomT and Turboguy. BTW welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 15, 2017, 08:29:13 AM
Maxx, when you are selling something it always helps to look at the sale through the eyes of the buyer.

For example, YOU know that you can expect to last into your 80's. Your 'buyer' sees a bloke who has maybe 7 or 8 years to go - that's because, in her world that's what happens. If you use a walking stick to get about then that goes double because disabled folks don't last long where you are and a stick is used by old folks to help them to knock on Death's door!

For most people where you are, the only USAians they will ever have come across will be pretty well off. They will only have heard tell of a friend's 'rich' American boyfriend or employer. You simply can not fit into that set of expectations. You see, whilst you look about and think that you are twice as well off as the average Georgian the reality is that you are only able to afford to live as the average Georgian lives. To the folks around you, you are NOT well off. No matter what you might think.

Your 'buyers' do not see the product - you, in the same way that you see the product. There's things you can do about that though but right now you are sending out mixed messages to me and your potential buyers. Here's a helper for you: you have told us how hard it is to meet and make relationships with women in Georgia; given that, how come your target for relationships is women in their 40's? What makes you think that you have a desirable package for such young women?

Now, as it happens, I think that you are right(ish) - make your target women in their 50's and up; when you polish up your package you might be able to do something. Think about what your package is though. What can you offer to make a woman give up her normal life to be with you, even if it is in Georgia.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Boris on February 15, 2017, 09:03:07 AM
"She is not accustomed to seeing 'burly fellows' with a clear history of pie eating living a long life."

Andrew...you talk to me like you know me...:-))))
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 09:07:20 AM
Maxx, when you are selling something it always helps to look at the sale through the eyes of the buyer.

For example, YOU know that you can expect to last into your 80's. Your 'buyer' sees a bloke who has maybe 7 or 8 years to go - that's because, in her world that's what happens. If you use a walking stick to get about then that goes double because disabled folks don't last long where you are and a stick is used by old folks to help them to knock on Death's door!

For most people where you are, the only USAians they will ever have come across will be pretty well off. They will only have heard tell of a friend's 'rich' American boyfriend or employer. You simply can not fit into that set of expectations. You see, whilst you look about and think that you are twice as well off as the average Georgian the reality is that you are only able to afford to live as the average Georgian lives. To the folks around you, you are NOT well off. No matter what you might think.

Your 'buyers' do not see the product - you, in the same way that you see the product. There's things you can do about that though but right now you are sending out mixed messages to me and your potential buyers. Here's a helper for you: you have told us how hard it is to meet and make relationships with women in Georgia; given that, how come your target for relationships is women in their 40's? What makes you think that you have a desirable package for such young women?

Now, as it happens, I think that you are right(ish) - make your target women in their 50's and up; when you polish up your package you might be able to do something. Think about what your package is though. What can you offer to make a woman give up her normal life to be with you, even if it is in Georgia.

I can do without the cane just fine. Well, almost fine. I worry about step ups and step downs. I am still strengthening up. But that is what I am doing, polishing up my image. Yes, you are absolutely right I do not look rich. Probably look poorer than what I am. But you know me. I don't try to impress at least not with people it doesn't matter with including around here.

40s women on the verge of turning 50? A widow perhaps with children near the ages of my children both born in the eighties? I don't see a problem if I find a solid one.

"What can you offer to make a woman give up her normal life to be with you, even if it is in Georgia?" That is just it, she doesn't need to give up her normal life. I am just some guy she can take her time with and see how it goes. No need for a "cold vomit cocktail" as you put it and live with her. But if we marry or want to live together it does seem like an unnecessary expense keeping two places. In neither of my marriages did I maintain a bachelor pad for a "just in case."   
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 09:08:08 AM
"She is not accustomed to seeing 'burly fellows' with a clear history of pie eating living a long life."

Andrew...you talk to me like you know me...:-))))

And I thought he was talking about himself...  :-*
Title: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 15, 2017, 10:12:23 AM
And she gave me her number.

Think I input it into my iPhone wrong though or misheard, '4' doesn't seem to be enough digits for a proper number. I keep calling it but it doesn't work.

Poor girl, couldn't concentrate enough (your handsome self distracted her)
to keep her number straight.

One thing that FSUW do is keep themselves clean down under. It used to a
reason of great conflict in the USA until Lysol got the Western girls sorted out.

(http://cdn.frank151.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/27131358/slide_333724_3333293_free.jpg)

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 10:29:14 AM
And she gave me her number.

Think I input it into my iPhone wrong though or misheard, '4' doesn't seem to be enough digits for a proper number. I keep calling it but it doesn't work.

Poor girl, couldn't concentrate enough (your handsome self distracted her)
to keep her number straight.

One thing that FSUW do is keep themselves clean down under. It used to a
reason of great conflict in the USA until Lysol got the Western girls sorted out.

(http://cdn.frank151.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/27131358/slide_333724_3333293_free.jpg)

So was she supposed to douch with Lysol?
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Contrarian on February 15, 2017, 12:30:07 PM

..."An advanced state of decrepitude." A state I most recently seen with my dying mother and at the nursing home where I stayed for my physical rehabilitation and I personally felt unable to walk or go to the bathroom without help. I noticed at the nursing home that those people without wives and husbands by their side suffered the most. I know this is a subject that most people push to the back of their minds. Probably more so by men who are in pursuit of younger women. But wouldn't be wise to consider finding a woman and family that will honor the marriage vows of "till death do we part"?

Those are idealist fantasies of naive teenagers. One would think at your age and after two outs you wouldn't be going for a third one so close to the bottom of the 9th inning.

Your best option might be some paid company. You pay either way, it's just in that this case both parties can be very specific about what they want prior to money being spent. Take this scene for example. Is she a real nurse? Does it matter?


LINK (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvgtBK1ofUw&t)

(Edited by B/B: fix url)
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: andrewfi on February 15, 2017, 01:57:16 PM
An acquaintance of mine in Estonia, just a little older than I, was always to be seen in the company of much younger, very hot girls. He was pretty well off with one of the nicest apartments in the city. I accidentally found it was his home when I turned up to view the place with a view to renting it. It was gorgeous.

Anyway, I met up with him one night in a club. He was on his own. I asked where his girlfriend was. He was not happy. She had left him. I do not know the exact circumstances, none of my business. He did say something interesting though. He told me that after this girl had left him that his strategy was going to change. Henceforth he would not seek out long(ish) term relationships but rather he'd go for rentals - specifically sponsorship. I asked him about what he might do when he got older and needed care as much as companionship. He told me that he well enough off that he could always afford to hire nurses to supplement his needs.

At first I recoiled from is suggestion. Now, a few years later and I can see his point much better and see some benefits to such a mode of life.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Chickenbrah on February 15, 2017, 02:18:28 PM


Those are idealist fantasies of naive teenagers. One would think at your age and after two outs you wouldn't be going for a third one so close to the bottom of the 9th inning.

Your best option might be some paid company. You pay either way, it's just in that this case both parties can be very specific about what they want prior to money being spent. Take this scene for example. Is she a real nurse? Does it matter?


It is confirmation bias, there is 100 reasons why to get married, 100 reasons why not to get married. Depends on the person and who you find. I am sure there are plenty of women for maxx to date in georgia, but he needs his health back. When he is mobile again, he will be in one of the best places to find a good woman. I wanted to move to Armenia, go to one of the villages, and reside there, still do, but i don't think it is my time just yet  :laugh: My values in a woman differ from most guys, i grew up with an old school mother, i like those old school values if i was looking for something serious where i put myself on the line and got married.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 15, 2017, 05:19:31 PM
So was she supposed to douch with Lysol?

In the late 1920s Lysol disinfectant began being marketed by maker Lysol, Incorporated and distributor Lehn & Fink, Inc. as a feminine hygiene product. It was claimed vaginal douching with a diluted Lysol solution prevented infections and vaginal odor, thereby preserving youth and marital bliss.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysol#cite_note-7
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: dcguyusa on February 15, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
I remember those Midol commercials on TV. 

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Unlike most of you guys I don't have any debts, monthly obligations in my home country to finance and I get a steady tax free money every month. AND I have savings for emergencies. I don't have expensive tastes or needs. No smoking habit to fund.

Same here, except my steady money is not tax free.   :money:
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 09:11:00 PM
I remember those Midol commercials on TV. 

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Unlike most of you guys I don't have any debts, monthly obligations in my home country to finance and I get a steady tax free money every month. AND I have savings for emergencies. I don't have expensive tastes or needs. No smoking habit to fund.

Same here, except my steady money is not tax free.   :money:

It gives a somewhat nice feeling of freedom.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 09:15:20 PM
An acquaintance of mine in Estonia, just a little older than I, was always to be seen in the company of much younger, very hot girls. He was pretty well off with one of the nicest apartments in the city. I accidentally found it was his home when I turned up to view the place with a view to renting it. It was gorgeous.

Anyway, I met up with him one night in a club. He was on his own. I asked where his girlfriend was. He was not happy. She had left him. I do not know the exact circumstances, none of my business. He did say something interesting though. He told me that after this girl had left him that his strategy was going to change. Henceforth he would not seek out long(ish) term relationships but rather he'd go for rentals - specifically sponsorship. I asked him about what he might do when he got older and needed care as much as companionship. He told me that he well enough off that he could always afford to hire nurses to supplement his needs.

At first I recoiled from is suggestion. Now, a few years later and I can see his point much better and see some benefits to such a mode of life.

I wonder what age your acquaintance's girlfriend was? I would think there would be plenty of older women who would want to avoid the drama and energy draining of a breakup.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: Maxx on February 15, 2017, 09:22:48 PM

..."An advanced state of decrepitude." A state I most recently seen with my dying mother and at the nursing home where I stayed for my physical rehabilitation and I personally felt unable to walk or go to the bathroom without help. I noticed at the nursing home that those people without wives and husbands by their side suffered the most. I know this is a subject that most people push to the back of their minds. Probably more so by men who are in pursuit of younger women. But wouldn't be wise to consider finding a woman and family that will honor the marriage vows of "till death do we part"?

Those are idealist fantasies of naive teenagers. One would think at your age and after two outs you wouldn't be going for a third one so close to the bottom of the 9th inning.

Your best option might be some paid company. You pay either way, it's just in that this case both parties can be very specific about what they want prior to money being spent. Take this scene for example. Is she a real nurse? Does it matter?



And you are in the top of the *8th inning and feeling so superior? At 55 you're getting up there in years.

* That is IF we both die at the same age.
Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: 2tallbill on February 16, 2017, 11:22:39 AM
I'm younger than you think. I posted higher cause I wanted to fit in with you old farts. Keep dreaming about the rest of your nonsense, if it makes you feel better as you walk around babeland with your cane.  :ROFL:

You posted that you are 55 recently.

There is no need for personal attacks here.

Maxx is grown and permitted to follow his own path as are you.
You are criticizing him for not following your advice/philosophy.
Imagine your resistance if somebody tried to tell you how to live
and then when you disagreed with you they criticized you personally
for wanting to follow your own path. 

Title: Re: Sexual Prowess, Cheating & Related Wisdoms
Post by: leslied on February 16, 2017, 12:55:32 PM
This personal argument has gone too far.  Thread locked.