Russian, Ukrainian & FSU Information & Manosphere Discussion Forums
General Discussion => General Chat => Topic started by: Gipsy on June 08, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
-
Are you a footy fan??
If so, where will you be watching the first England match against Russia??
I'm at the wedding of one of my interpreters on Saturday, from 14.00 and the game will be shown late in the night, towards what should be the end of the drunken festivities.. :drunk:
Can you imagine the scene??
Many drunken Russians, one lone Englishman, England score, :whistle: the Englishman jumps up shouting "Gerinthere", oopppsssss.. :hidechair:
Better quickly brush up on my unarmed combat/fisticuffs............. :ROFL:
-
Are you a footy fan??
If so, where will you be watching the first England match against Russia??
As an Ulsterman, this 'Russo-phobe' :chuckle: will be wearing his Russia national team cap with lots of Englishmen shouting for Russia on a video link back to Sochi...
Northern Ireland will be playing in the same group as Germany, Poland and...Ukraine...
Naturally, 'when' NI play Russia - I will shout for NI..... [ assumes they will both qualify for the next round :laugh:]
Northern Ireland go into the competition having topped their qualifying group and on the back of the longest unbeaten run of any of the 24 teams ...
-
No Im not a footy fan for sure..
It's become a game for the simpletons ;D But I will be watching.. just to cheer Russia on :thumbsup:
-
No Im not a footy fan for sure..
It's become a game for the simpletons ;D But I will be watching.. just to cheer Russia on :thumbsup:
As NL doesnt play, ill join you cheering on Russkis
-
No Im not a footy fan for sure..
It's become a game for the simpletons ;D But I will be watching.. just to cheer Russia on :thumbsup:
As NL doesnt play, ill join you cheering on Russkis
:thumbsup:
-
I'll be dressing up as a crusader and hanging my England flags out in the street...... :hidechair:
-
I'll be dressing up as a crusader and hanging my England flags out in the street...... :hidechair:
I thought only the folk from the housing estates did this?
-
Very much a split house here - Tanya will have the RU flag out for 2 hours - when they lose it will get stamped on then folded up for another 2 years ;D
Of course there's always that lingering doubt that we will suck at a major tournament again :(
She normally does Skype chat with her dad at 10.00 on a Saturday night- so I dare say the game will come up in conversation!
-
I'll be dressing up as a crusader and hanging my England flags out in the street...... :hidechair:
To be fair most Brits would have got behind you guys at the Euros tiphat
If you had made it there :-X
-
I'll be dressing up as a crusader and hanging my England flags out in the street...... :hidechair:
Hope that you don't live in Jockland then.... :ROFL:
-
My son is a footy fanatic, and my wife only shows an interest when Russia are playing. So there is now ribbing and rivalry going on between them. She tells him about Russia's great sportsmen, he kind of sighs and says "Yes, that's all very well when they are playing Somewherevakia, but this is the England team". And on it goes........
-
My son is a footy fanatic, and my wife only shows an interest when Russia are playing. So there is now ribbing and rivalry going on between them. She tells him about Russia's great sportsmen, he kind of sighs and says "Yes, that's all very well when they are playing Somewherevakia, but this is the England team". And on it goes........
The first winners of this tournament was the Soviet Union, btw [ 1960]
In '92 and 2004 Denmark and Greece shocked fans and bookies by winning it, when they were rank outsiders .. Denmark only having had a weeks warning of playing - after Yugoslavia were disqualified - due to civil war and non existence...
France normally do well when hosting and Belgium has some great players ..
If Northern Ireland won, it would be bigger than Leicester winning the Premiership - but I'm daring to dream ...
Poland, Germany, Ukraine .... 'no problem' - N.I are a team of Sunday School choir boys in comparison..
-
I see the minority of English 'fans' are indulging in their favourite past time of not being able to handle their drink. They'll get a rude awakening if they try that with the Russian fans. Я буду болеть за россию завтра! :RUS:
-
I see the minority of English 'fans' are indulging in their favourite past time of not being able to handle their drink. They'll get a rude awakening if they try that with the Russian fans. Я буду болеть за россию завтра! :RUS:
I am not sure this is a trait to be proud of but I agree - trying to drink a Russian under the table is - in my case - a waste of time.
I hope the game is entertaining
-
I am not sure this is a trait to be proud of but I agree - trying to drink a Russian under the table is - in my case - a waste of time.
I hope the game is entertaining
I think you misunderstood me - I don't believe Russians have superior drinking stamina, but they do generally always eat while they're drinking which is far more sensible thing to do if you're going on a session.
However, I was referring to the hooligan element: it's one thing to get drunk and throw a few bottles at the police; but they would be making a big mistake if they try anything on with Russian hooligans; many of whom don't drink and train MMA and Muay Thai. I see one English hooligan got a bit too 'brave' yesterday and was beaten and dumped into the harbour by Russians; nothing to be proud of, just plain truth!
As for the game, England have got a very good chance of winning that.
-
Are many of the England team English? :laugh:
Just wondering..
-
Well no divorce in the family then ;D
-
Will say the fans sure are passionate about this sport.
Violence just seems to be a part of human nature.
Euro 2016: Violence mars England-Russia match
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36506917
-
Will say the fans sure are passionate about this sport.
Violence just seems to be a part of human nature.
Euro 2016: Violence mars England-Russia match
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36506917
As was predicted, the English hooligans are really just a bunch of pot-bellied beer swilling amateurs in comparison to the trained aggression of the Russians. Hooliganism: I really can't understand the primitiveness of it but hey, after so many years, theEnglish hooligans who have bullied and intimidated have met up with a group more brutal, organised and violent than they can handle and they don't like it, so obviously, they must be: "animals, barbaric" and worse still, "holders of World Cup 2018". Maybe it's a time for reflection? ................ nah, thought not!
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
-
I can't wait until the British football apes try to pull this shit in Russia in a couple of years and come up against a REAL police force, one unencumbered by western PC liberal values and full of Moby's cross dressing friends. I'll be cheering on the Russian fuzzski with every British monkey football-fan skull they crack open. :thumbsup:
Always said football was for the simpletons.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36504410
-
...come up against a REAL police force....
Did you mean Russian police?? What are you talking about??
Do you really live in Russia??
Russian police is very weak: understaffed, low salary, poor equipment and no proper training.
All they know is how to take bribes.
In critical situation there was always army and special forces. NEVER police!!!
I'll be cheering on the Russian fuzzski with every British monkey football-fan skull they crack open.
Sometimes I ask myself if you really understand what you write here.
By the way, Russians can beat you badly, but they will never crack skulls open for fun.
It is not a Russian nature.
Just let you know, if you've missed this part....
-
Are many of the England team English? :laugh:
Just wondering..
They didn't know the words to the national anthem for sure.
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Ditto, rugby fans are not neanderthals like many football fans are, what a great game Tony it was too, can't wait for the next two matches, they should be crackers tiphat
-
That was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever watched, and I hate watching football especially on tv. Don't follow the game at all. There was a couple of the Moscow teams players which was pointed out to me endlessly during the match. Score really could have been anything with both sides having 4-5 opportunities they didn't convert to goals. When the goalie was out of the box at the end and Russia almost scored again, was nail biting stuff.
I have to say, several English players stood out but no Russian player did( except maybe their goalie's efforts). Alli was by far the most influential player IMHO, and had awesome footwork.
All in all, a fair result..
The spoiler as usual was as others have already pointed out, the "So called" fans/supporters.. Disgusting and shameful to the whole tournament.
Btw, had a lovely day at the wedding, typical Russian hospitality, super.
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Plus one :thumbsup:
-
Are many of the England team English? :laugh:
Just wondering..
They didn't know the words to the national anthem for sure.
Im not into football one little bit nor is the wife, though we did go watch England in Moldova once and were planning to watch Zenit sometime, just haven't had the time yet.
Anyway we watched a few minutes the wife said to me "What colour are England" ;D just as she spoke some black England player took the ball. I looked at her and said "Do I really need to tell you" she laughed and that was the football over for us..
Football isn't what it used to be. Now its just a pile of over paid clowns one of which are English probably..
No wonder they haven't won anything since 1964..
Bunch of idiots the lot of them.
-
Are many of the England team English? :laugh:
Just wondering..
They didn't know the words to the national anthem for sure.
Im not into football one little bit nor is the wife, though we did go watch England in Moldova once and were planning to watch Zenit sometime, just haven't had the time yet.
Anyway we watched a few minutes the wife said to me "What colour are England" ;D just as she spoke some black England player took the ball. I looked at her and said "Do I really need to tell you" she laughed and that was the football over for us..
Football isn't what it used to be. Now its just a pile of over paid clowns one of which are English probably..
No wonder they haven't won anything since 1964..
Bunch of idiots the lot of them.
1966 actually, that 2 years makes a big difference :laugh:
-
That was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever watched
It's clear you don't watch much decent football - the game was nothing special - The Wales Slovakia game was MUCH more interesting..
All in all, a fair result..
'sure'..
England stats first ..
Shots on target 5-2
shots 15-6
possession 53-47 percent
passes 449 - 419
missed / long passes 9.6 - 16.2 percent
pass accuracy 82 - 77 percent
corners 6 - 4
source daily telegrapgh ..
:chuckle:
The spoiler as usual was as others have already pointed out, the "So called" fans/supporters.. Disgusting and shameful to the whole tournament.
Btw, had a lovely day at the wedding, typical Russian hospitality, super.
[/quote]
-
...come up against a REAL police force....
Did you mean Russian police?? What are you talking about??
Do you really live in Russia??
Russian police is very weak: understaffed, low salary, poor equipment and no proper training.
All they know is how to take bribes.
In critical situation there was always army and special forces. NEVER police!!!
I'll be cheering on the Russian fuzzski with every British monkey football-fan skull they crack open.
Sometimes I ask myself if you really understand what you write here.
By the way, Russians can beat you badly, but they will never crack skulls open for fun.
It is not a Russian nature.
Just let you know, if you've missed this part....
I think you are a little confused? Im not speaking about underfunding or the latest tech gadgets..
Im talking about a football hooligan being taken into custody in a Russian police station and given a good beating..
Something that will not happen in Western Europe often. You don't need the latest pair of boots for the local police officer and his friends to give a little beating to a rowdy hooligan do you?
I was out in the street some time back and two young teenagers were fighting in the street, I saw the police officer come to the scene and give one of the boys a hard clip round the ear! Job done , fight finished..
-
Are many of the England team English? :laugh:
Just wondering..
They didn't know the words to the national anthem for sure.
Im not into football one little bit nor is the wife, though we did go watch England in Moldova once and were planning to watch Zenit sometime, just haven't had the time yet.
Anyway we watched a few minutes the wife said to me "What colour are England" ;D just as she spoke some black England player took the ball. I looked at her and said "Do I really need to tell you" she laughed and that was the football over for us..
Football isn't what it used to be. Now its just a pile of over paid clowns one of which are English probably..
No wonder they haven't won anything since 1964..
Bunch of idiots the lot of them.
1966 actually, that 2 years makes a big difference :laugh:
I did say I'm not a football fan :hidechair:
-
That was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever watched
It's clear you don't watch much decent football - the game was nothing special - The Wales Slovakia game was MUCH more interesting..
All in all, a fair result..
'sure'..
England stats first ..
Shots on target 5-2
shots 15-6
possession 53-47 percent
passes 449 - 419
missed / long passes 9.6 - 16.2 percent
pass accuracy 82 - 77 percent
corners 6 - 4
source daily telegrapgh ..
:chuckle:
-
:thumbsup:
http://our-russia.com/12062016133016/russia-1-england-1-british-sportsmanship-just-loser
-
Bit more fan participation between Germany and Ukraine. Was quite mild compared to England and Russia
MORE fan violence at Euro 2016 as Germany and Ukraine fans clash in the streets of Lille
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/germany-ukraine-fans-violence-lille-8175118
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Plus one :thumbsup:
plus 2
nothing turns me of soccer more than the violence of its fans
SX
-
In Russia since childhood instill in children a love for the sport. In kindergarten, after 4 years, promising children are taken in Specialized Children and Youth Sports School.
Take me as an example. In addition to a comprehensive school I attended gymnastics, ballet studio. I stopped at a music school. :innocent: :)
Boys, they begin to walk, all the polls are playing in the yard in the summer of football. In winter hockey.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UB1w3Z5XJcc/Tu_v8vzaJSI/AAAAAAAAPLI/AFqpTgv4cwEO8ZN2IpI1L4-Nn6Qa9H77wCCo/s604/1.jpg)
Since babies and ending with the Kremlin. :)
(http://jtimes.ru/images/img_news/lexa/upload-TASS_12735159-pic4_zoom-1500x1500-15609_270df.jpg)
Вперед, Россия!!! :RUS:
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Plus one :thumbsup:
plus 2
nothing turns me of soccer more than the violence of its fans
SX
I take it that the NFL is of no interest either: CLICK HERE! (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/when-fans-fight-why-violence-in-the-stands-and-online-rage-is-spreading/)
Likewise baseball turns you right off: CLICK HERE! (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=443985;topic=25803.30;last_msg=443994)
Maybe angling is OK for you?
-
FSB ? Little men in green outfits? :laugh: you have to laugh.. they were so professionally trained NONE were arrested.. just the English..
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russian-hooligans-trained-ultra-violence-marseille-prosecutor-095210689--business.html
-
That was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever watched
It's clear you don't watch much decent football - the game was nothing special - The Wales Slovakia game was MUCH more interesting..
All in all, a fair result..
'sure'..
England stats first ..
Shots on target 5-2
shots 15-6
possession 53-47 percent
passes 449 - 419
missed / long passes 9.6 - 16.2 percent
pass accuracy 82 - 77 percent
corners 6 - 4
source daily telegrapgh ..
:chuckle:
The spoiler as usual was as others have already pointed out, the "So called" fans/supporters.. Disgusting and shameful to the whole tournament.
Btw, had a lovely day at the wedding, typical Russian hospitality, super.
It was a fair result when the most important stat is the goals. 1-1 BTW.
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Plus one :thumbsup:
plus 2
nothing turns me of soccer more than the violence of its fans
SX
I take it that the NFL is of no interest either: CLICK HERE! (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/when-fans-fight-why-violence-in-the-stands-and-online-rage-is-spreading/)
Likewise baseball turns you right off: CLICK HERE! (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=443985;topic=25803.30;last_msg=443994)
Maybe angling is OK for you?
lol
[derogatory term removed] you need to understand in australia we have our own football code , australian rules football
100 000 fans and no mass violence like in soccer
there are no divisions of fans , no fences between the fans and the field , min police presence
the codes you referenced in your links above are very low if at all watched for most australians
we generally dont care about the US codes
SX
-
I love it when folks forget to think and use absolutes! :)
CLICK HERE! (http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/previous%20series/vt/1-9/vt04.html)
So, that's ARF and cricket out for you. Angling remains though, unless you know different? :saint:
-
It was a fair result when the most important stat is the goals. 1-1 BTW.
Don't know what the situation is with viewing various matches in the tournament in the UK, but in most places in Russia, ALL the matches are on Free-to-view Tv.. :popcorn:
-
It was a fair result when the most important stat is the goals. 1-1 BTW.
Don't know what the situation is with viewing various matches in the tournament in the UK, but in most places in Russia, ALL the matches are on Free-to-view Tv.. :popcorn:
You can watch them all if you are that way inclined on the standard BBC or ITV terrestrial channels.
-
It was a fair result when the most important stat is the goals. 1-1 BTW.
Don't know what the situation is with viewing various matches in the tournament in the UK, but in most places in Russia, ALL the matches are on Free-to-view Tv.. :popcorn:
You can watch them all if you are that way inclined on the standard BBC or ITV terrestrial channels.
Which I'm not, but :thumbsup:
-
It was a fair result when the most important stat is the goals. 1-1 BTW.
Don't know what the situation is with viewing various matches in the tournament in the UK, but in most places in Russia, ALL the matches are on Free-to-view Tv.. :popcorn:
You can watch them all if you are that way inclined on the standard BBC or ITV terrestrial channels.
Which I'm not, but :thumbsup:
Me neither :)
-
Don't worry, Russia will be banned soon enough - just as a show of strength you understand. ;)
-
Don't worry, Russia will be banned soon enough - just as a show of strength you understand. ;)
Sanctions imposed on Russian Football Union
http://www.uefa.org/mediaservices/newsid=2376811.html
-
lol :laugh: :laugh:
is that the best you can do andrew ??
reference a 1989 gov piece ??
you would know if you had been here to our sporting events we are not in the same league for violence as the soccer hords in this thread
your attempt to prove otherwise shows your google skills only
give it another go , see if you can do better next time tiphat
SX
-
lol :laugh: :laugh:
is that the best you can do andrew ??
reference a 1989 gov piece ??
you would know if you had been here to our sporting events we are not in the same league for violence as the soccer hords in this thread
your attempt to prove otherwise shows your google skills only
give it another go , see if you can do better next time tiphat
SX
Tut tut..
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/11/i-wont-apologise-for-australias-football-violence-problem-nor-should-the-ffa
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/23/alan-jones-on-football-violence-in-australia-is-this-like-terrorism-in-paris
-
Dear Australian person. When one creates an argument based upon an absolute all that is required to overturn that argument is a single case that breaks the absolute. If you were paying me to embarrass you I'd have done a better job, I promise. For a freebie you got a recent document demonstrating that you don't know what you are going on about.
How's the angling going?
-
google away boys
try again , or better yet tell me i dont understand my countrys sport / codes / culture or i am unable to read /comprehend etc
you both are confusing soccer with aussie rules
SX
-
google away boys
try again , or better yet tell me i dont understand my countrys sport / codes / culture or i am unable to read /comprehend etc
you both are confusing soccer with aussie rules
SX
It seems that I am confusing sport with violence in Australia...
It matters not what the actual name of the sport is..
Violence is violence, one cannot state "Yeah, we in Aussie do have violence in SOME sports, but NOT in Aussie rules footy"...
:coffeeread:
-
LOL
ah , so you now wish to move the goal posts hey ??? ;D ;D
show me where i stated this below exactly gipsy ??
tiphat gipsy .Violence is violence, one cannot state "Yeah, we in Aussie do have violence in SOME sports, but NOT in Aussie rules footy"...
SX
-
i will post it again
quote below , just so you both can attempt to prove otherwise with a new google effort
lol
[derogatory term removed] you need to understand in australia we have our own football code , australian rules football
100 000 fans and no mass violence like in soccer
there are no divisions of fans , no fences between the fans and the field , min police presence
the codes you referenced in your links above are very low if at all watched for most australians
we generally dont care about the US codes
SX
-
lol :laugh: :laugh:
is that the best you can do andrew ??
reference a 1989 gov piece ??
you would know if you had been here to our sporting events we are not in the same league for violence as the soccer hords in this thread
your attempt to prove otherwise shows your google skills only
give it another go , see if you can do better next time tiphat
SX
Tut tut..
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/11/i-wont-apologise-for-australias-football-violence-problem-nor-should-the-ffa
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/23/alan-jones-on-football-violence-in-australia-is-this-like-terrorism-in-paris
i will post it again
quote below , just so you both can attempt to prove otherwise with a new google effort
lol
[derogatory term removed] you need to understand in australia we have our own football code , australian rules football
100 000 fans and no mass violence like in soccer
there are no divisions of fans , no fences between the fans and the field , min police presence
the codes you referenced in your links above are very low if at all watched for most australians
we generally dont care about the US codes
SX
Sorry SX ,, fail!
-
i will post it again
quote below , just so you both can attempt to prove otherwise with a new google effort
lol
[derogatory term removed] you need to understand in australia we have our own football code , australian rules football
100 000 fans and no mass violence like in soccer
there are no divisions of fans , no fences between the fans and the field , min police presence
the codes you referenced in your links above are very low if at all watched for most australians
we generally dont care about the US codes
SX
That's just the players... :coffeeread:
Even the women get in on the action..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/afl/article-3551025/AFL-investigates-violent-women-s-game-South-Morang-Sunbury-Lions-multiple-injuries-players.html
-
SX hasn't 'failed' in any way....
I had a shareholder in a biz who had been an England 'footie' Supporter [sic] and loved a good fight ...He attended a meeting with a prospective supplier, one day and I felt a flicker of recognition and tension between 'em ...
As the meeting had progressed well - I asked them ''were did you really meet... I don't think it was the Golf Club'....a long pause.... passing of looks between two BIG men, nearly a smile ... 'We may know each other''..
Later, in the car, 'I wrecked his pub..he is a toon [Sunderland v Newcastle]
The 'Ultras' of Russia regard themselves as the new kings of violence and gained 'pleasure' attacking English 'fans' ..
As we can see - some guys like to fight other guys from other towns / countries for 'fun' ..
I wish they'd go it in a private place and take it other out and let the real football fans enjoy the pre and during and post match atmosphere.
We should all be condemning twats from any town / country who use a sporting occasion to give a good kicking..
I don't want to see Russian / English fans see their team expelled because of the actions of such twats
VERY sad...
-
No confusion here matey! Go read the link I shared with you for free, you can hire me for more in depth refutation of your silly point. ;) Don't rely upon your prejudices and lack of knowledge to protect you from being an ass. :dh:
Its only USAians who get to use their lack of knowledge as an invincible shield against reality.
-
Well, Russia are two down against Slovkia, who Wales beat and it's only half time...
Sonehow I don't see N.IRELAND V RUSSIA on the cards
Wales v England looks a really important game, now
-
The Irish and Swedes show everyone what Euro 2016 should be about:
-
the English are sure hardcore fans.
Live Euro 2016 violence: Police charge at England fans after flares and bangers lit during tense stand-off
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/06/15/euro-2016-violence-in-lille-france-england-fans-tear-gassed/
-
;D ;D
you still have poor comprehehsion it seems
andrew your link was rubbish and you know it
you have failed to prosecute your case in regards to fans of australian rules football being violent as per soccer fans ??
is that the best you can do ??? to find a few odd games where the players get stuck in ??
players are not fans :laugh:
hundreds of thousands of fans go to our games every week around australia & we dont have anything comparable to the soccer violence tiphat
SX
-
The Irish and Swedes show everyone what Euro 2016 should be about:
+100%.. :thumbsup:
-
Well, Russia are two down against Slovkia, who Wales beat and it's only half time...
Sonehow I don't see N.IRELAND V RUSSIA on the cards
Wales v England looks a really important game, now
Wales 1 England 2.. what a game... :whistle:
-
SX hasn't 'failed' in any way....
I had a shareholder in a biz who had been an England 'footie' Supporter [sic] and loved a good fight ...He attended a meeting with a prospective supplier, one day and I felt a flicker of recognition and tension between 'em ...
As the meeting had progressed well - I asked them ''were did you really meet... I don't think it was the Golf Club'....a long pause.... passing of looks between two BIG men, nearly a smile ... 'We may know each other''..
Later, in the car, 'I wrecked his pub..he is a toon [Sunderland v Newcastle]
The 'Ultras' of Russia regard themselves as the new kings of violence and gained 'pleasure' attacking English 'fans' ..
As we can see - some guys like to fight other guys from other towns / countries for 'fun' ..
I wish they'd go it in a private place and take it other out and let the real football fans enjoy the pre and during and post match atmosphere.
We should all be condemning *snip*s from any town / country who use a sporting occasion to give a good kicking..
I don't want to see Russian / English fans see their team expelled because of the actions of such *snip*s
VERY sad...
Is that a real story?
There's firms who go out looking for fights and traditionally they don't drag the real fans into their weird past times. That's where the Russian firm has stepped over the line.
That said, no other set of travelling fans behave like the English. There's an empire type mindset with these guys and they love nothing more than to get drunk, sing threatening or disrespectful songs and attempt to intimidate. I hate it, anyone who witnesses it hates it and there's no wonder the English become a target if they don't kick things off themselves.
Obviously there's good fans too but sadly the bad behaviour is infectious and they just can't help themselves. Now we hear about how it's the police who's at fault or the Russians or the French......and the poor English are victims.
Funny how nearly every other country has enjoyed a great trip without trouble. I go on lots of tartan army trips and I've never seen a fight. In fact the guys self police and if you act like an arse your own fans shut you up and you lose your travel club membership. We regularly take some of the biggest sets of fans to away games but the mindset is about fun and making friends.....especially Eastern European women!! :evilgrin0002:
I reckon if you get pissed out your skull, intimidate passers by, mock the locals and sing songs bare chested about bombing Germany/the IRA or ISIS whilst spreading your arms wide.....you'll be standing at the scene of the next fight pretty quickly.
-
NI did a good job on Ukraine 2-0, nice one..
-
NI did a good job on Ukraine 2-0, nice one..
Great result!
-
NI did a good job on Ukraine 2-0, nice one..
They did well but Ukraine are a woefully inept side and the game was shockingly poor in quality, they have given themselves a real good chance of getting through to the knockout stage now - even on 3 points thanks to the change of qualifying and the influx of crap sides in the draw - good luck to them!!
However, I have a sneaky suspicion that Russia will do Wales on Monday!
England, Wales (despite loss) and NI (will be close, as long as they don't get tonked by the Germans) through - But I think Rep of Ireland are going home :plane:
-
I've watched a few Russians fighting, and it wouldn't surprise me with those numbers. Don't know how well the English fight, but the Russians can brawl with the best of em.
Vladimir Putin says he questions how 200 Russians 'beat up 1,000 English people' as he defends thugs who have orchestrated violence throughout the tournament
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3646877/Vladimir-Putin-says-questions-200-Russians-beat-1-000-English-people-defends-thugs-orchestrated-violence-tournament.html
-
What about all that violence after the Aussie-English rugby game last night, which was won by the English in Brisbane? Yep, there was none. Fans need to get a grip and watch the sport they enjoy in peace.
Plus one :thumbsup:
plus 2
nothing turns me of soccer more than the violence of its fans
SX
I take it that the NFL is of no interest either: CLICK HERE! (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/when-fans-fight-why-violence-in-the-stands-and-online-rage-is-spreading/)
Likewise baseball turns you right off: CLICK HERE! (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=443985;topic=25803.30;last_msg=443994)
Maybe angling is OK for you?
Violence by fans or participants at any sporting event is unacceptable.
There is no way though one can even compare violence in a diverse sporting field of events in North America to what happens at football events between clubs or countries in Europe. To say that America has a problem is more anti-American nonsense from BSAndy.
England, Germany, Italy & The Netherlands seem to be leaders, but Russia and Ukraine are trying to catch up.
For what it is worth I still recall when a very angry (and drunk) group of English supporters marched in Kiev during the EU there to the Swedish camp looking for a rough up. The local police were tense and I moved to the background. The Swedish DJ switched from Swedish folk umpa tunes to Wonderwall and the English fans were suddenly confused and bewildered. At the end the two groups were best friends and the local cops were scratching there heads mingling between supporters.
As I recall both Vinny and I noted and posted images of this.
-
England, Germany, Italy & The Netherlands seem to be leaders, but Russia and Ukraine are trying to catch up.
You can add Poland and Croatia to that list as well!!!
Regards England - its a problem and it has been for years - if you listen to our media (radio particularly) we don't have a problem its heavy handed local police or unacceptable provocation from rival fans - this is of course bollocks!!
Tougher sanctions against those involved are whats required including bans from there home clubs (+ exclusion from football league grounds) - exclusion from the football universe is the only answer + harsher sentencing!!! I generally understand that football violence stems from some kind of identity and belonging requirement - this needs to be removed.
It annoys me when the media consistently refer to them as fans as they give the vast majority of law abiding real fans a bad name!!
-
It annoys me when the media consistently refer to them as fans as they give the vast majority of law abiding real fans a bad name!!
Bruce, You make a really good point. Most fans and competitors will congratulate the winners and raise a glass. The so-called 'hooligans' just want a rumble irregardless of results. My guess this is a very ugly form of Nationalism wrapped in many different flags.
Pity there are not any islands where the lot can be dropped off on and let them sort themselves out together.
-
good basic background on the hoolaganism in this wiki link below
which covers its believed origins and its occurence across most countries where soccer is played
SX
Early history
The first instance of football violence is unknown, but the phenomenon can be traced back to 14th-century England. In 1314, Edward II banned football (at that time, a violent, unruly activity involving rival villages kicking a pig's bladder across the local heath) because he believed the disorder surrounding matches might lead to social unrest, or even treason.[8] According to a University of Liverpool academic paper, conflict at an 1846 match in Derby, England, required a reading of the "riot act" and two groups of dragoons to effectively respond to the disorderly crowd. This same paper also identified "pitch invasions" as a common occurrence during the 1880s in English football.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism#Australia
-
just to get my post count up a bit :)
here is a link info on australian rules football , which gives the basic wrap up on our game and its stats etc
crowd violence or hoolagansim is virtually nil ,
the one issue that has surfaced over the last 20 years is racila vilification , and even that is fairly minimal on a per head attendance basis & imo is often attributed to the crowd expressing their displeasure at a player by booing him, , it only seems to be racial if the player in non caucasian
caucasian players getting booed each week arnt apparently being racialy vilified , :laugh: :laugh: & its acceptable to boo them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football_culture
Australian rules football is popular amongst indigenous communities.
Australian rules football has attracted more overall interest among Australians (as measured by the Sweeney Sports report) than any other football code, and, when compared with all sports throughout the nation, has consistently ranked first in the winter reports, and most recently third behind cricket and swimming in summer.[3][4]
Women have been involved in Australian football since its inception, with many early match reports remarking on the equal representation of both sexes in the crowds.[5]
Australian rules football is the most highly attended spectator sport in Australia: government figures show that more than 2.5 million people attended games in 2005-06.[6] In 2007 (including finals matches), a cumulative 7,049,945 people attended Australian Football League premiership matches, a record for the competition.[7] In 2005, a further 307,181 attended NAB Cup pre-season matches and 117,552 attended Regional Challenge pre-season practice matches around the country.
As of 2005 the AFL is one of only five professional sports leagues in the world with an average attendance above thirty thousand (the others are the NFL in the United States and Major League Baseball in the U.S. and Canada, and the top division soccer leagues in Germany and England). In 2007, the average attendance of 38,113 made the AFL the second best attended domestic club league in the world, after only the NFL in the United States.
The Melbourne Cricket Ground is the largest stadium used for Australian rules football and the permanent home of the AFL Grand Final. It is one of the largest sporting stadiums in the world and was the venue for the record Australian rules football attendance of 121,696 at the 1970 VFL Grand Final, between Carlton and Collingwood - which game was also historic, in that it heralded the dawning of a new style of football - still largely in use today, wherein handballing was introduced more to commence the attack from the back line. Redevelopment since then to a mainly seated stadium has reduced the current capacity to approximately 100,000.
In addition to the national AFL competition, some semi-professional local leagues also draw significant crowds. Although crowds for state leagues have suffered in recent years, they continue to draw support, particularly for finals matches. The South Australian SANFL drew an attendance of 309,874 in 2006 and the Western Australian WAFL drew an official attendance of 207,154. Other leagues, such as the Victorian VFL Northern Territory Football League and most Suburban and Country Leagues also charge admission around the $5 to $10 mark, drawing reasonable crowds, although there is a lack of official crowd numbers.
Part of the 2006 AFL Grand Final pre-match entertainment. The AFL Grand Final is one of the most watched sporting events on television in Australia.
The national AFL is the main league which is shown on television in Australia.
The 2005 AFL Grand Final was watched by a record television audience of more than 3.3 million people across Australia's five most populous cities—the five mainland state capitals—including 1.2 million in Melbourne and 991,000 in Sydney.[8] In 2006, the national audience was 3.145 million, including 1.182 million in Melbourne and 759,000 in Sydney.[9]
According to OzTAM, in recent years, the AFL Grand Final has reached the top five programs across the five biggest cities in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006. In 2007, it was #1 in metropolitan markets. Australian rules football has achieved a #1 rating in the sports category in both 2004 and 2005.
Some of the more popular regional leagues in Australia have the "match of the week" televised locally and free-to-air on ABC Television's respective state networks. The SANFL is the most popular of these regional competitions measuring a total of 1,415,000 television viewers in 2007.[10]
Some of these regional leagues also attracted a national audience through free-to-air broadcasting on television networks such as ABC2. OzTAM began measuring these audiences in 2006. Despite a large number of complaints, ABC2 withdrew all of these broadcasts in early 2008.[11][12] However, in 2010 the ABC began replaying these matches nationwide, online via the new ABC iView catch-up TV service. In 2012, the ABC commenced screening replays of the previous weekends VFL, SANFL, WAFL matches in the early hours of the morning during the week from 3.00AM - 5.30AM (local time in each state) nationwide on the ABC1 channel
Australian rules also has a nominal but growing international audience. Since 2005, some AFL matches have been shown in the pacific rim region for the first time through the Australia Network. The AFL Grand Final is broadcast to many countries and attracts many million viewers worldwide. This audience has grown to approximately 30 million viewers from 72 countries.[13]
According to Roy Morgan Research, more Americans watch Australian Rules Football than Australians. A poll taken between April 2002 and March 2004 showed that 7,496,000 North Americans compared to 7,004,000 Australians watch Australian Rules Football at least occasionally on television.[14]
The AFL website was the #1 most popular Hitwise Australian sports website in 2004, increasing in market share by 9.86% over that year.[15] In 2006, other consistently high traffic websites in the Australian Top 20 included AFL Dream Team, (Trading Post) AFL Footy Tipping, BigFooty.com and Bomberland.[16] In 2006, the search term 'afl' represented the highest number of search terms (2.48%) that delivered users to Hitwise sports category listed websites.[17] Statistics show that Victorians consist of 43% of all visits to the AFL football category.[18]
Player and spectator conduct
Further information: Racism in sport
Drinking is considered a part of the culture of Australian Rules football.[19][20]
On-field assault has historically been socially tolerated in Australia, but, in recent years, this has changed with some players being charged by police for their on-field actions, including a recent jailing in Victoria[21] and the much publicised case involving VFL player Leigh Matthews which ended the public perception that on-field football assaults are somehow legal.[22] Overall violence has decreased over time.[23]
Traditionally, umpires have worn white and were sometimes referred to as "white maggots" amongst supporters.[24]
Incidents of vilification:
1993 Nicky Winmar reacted to overt racism from the crowd at Victoria Park, Melbourne, turning to face the offending segments of the crowd, lifted his Guernsey and defiantly pointed to his skin (at the end of a game between St Kilda Football Club and Collingwood Football Club). This act was captured in a series of famous photographs and led to far-reaching reform in the AFL in respect of racism in the game.[25][26]
1994 Essendon Football Club champion Michael Long complained to the Australian Football League over an alleged racial vilification incident involving Collingwood Football Club's Damian Monkhorst which was the result of an extensive investigation throughout 1995.[27]
1997 Sydney Swans player Robert AhMat was involved in an alleged racial vilification row with Essendon Football Club player Michael Prior.[28]
2007 The Herald Sun launches a special investigation into racism in junior Aussie Rules, revealing several controversial incidents.[29]
2010 Former Australian rules player Mal Brown apologises for referring to aboriginal Australian Football League players as "cannibals" and that he could not select Nicky Winmar or Michael Mitchell because "there were no lights" [at the poorly lit Whitten Oval] during a promotion for the E. J. Whitten Legends Game. The comments prompted AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou to express his disgust.[30][31]
2011 Joel Wilkinson racially vilified in multiple incidents, including by Brisbane Lions player Justin Sherman[32] and by a Collingwood supporter in June 2012.[33]
Majak Daw racially vilified by Port Melbourne spectators.[34]
2013 Majak Daw, Daniel Wells and Lindsay Thomas allegedly racially vilified by spectators in a matches against Hawthorn[35] and against the Western Bulldogs.[36]
Adam Goodes points to a Collingwood spectator in a match against Collingwood after an apparent "ape". The person later apologised to him.[37]
Video reveals Collingwood supporter racially vilifying both Adam Goodes and Lewis Jetta.[38]
Eddie McGuire apologises for "King Kong" gaffe in reference to Goodes.[39]
-
However, I have a sneaky suspicion that Russia will do Wales on Monday!
Well, that wasn’t the World’s best sporting prediction – Russia were bloody awful last night, awkward and ineffective, however they did provide Euro 2016 with one of its funniest moments – Captain substituted with about 25 minutes to go, sub comes on with the armband and spends the best part of a minute trying to find somebody that actually wanted to lead the team, eventually the goalkeeper reluctantly took it! Kinda summed up their tournament really, Rudderless!! They are going to have to improve a hell of a lot by the time the host the 2018 World Cup!
-
However, I have a sneaky suspicion that Russia will do Wales on Monday!
Well, that wasn’t the World’s best sporting prediction
:)
I was in the car and talking on Skype to SC. She was watching the game and told me Russia were winning...When the second goal went in and she told me that that guy with the white hair and and the one with the bun were the best players on the pitch - I knew she could spot talent but the 32 inch screen was''too small for her eyes'' :laugh:
-
Tried to find RT's coverage of Russia's exit from EURO 2016 .....
RIA Novosti ran a poll and 85 percent of votes were not 'kind'[attachimg=1]
-
However, I have a sneaky suspicion that Russia will do Wales on Monday!
Well, that wasn’t the World’s best sporting prediction – Russia were bloody awful last night, awkward and ineffective, however they did provide Euro 2016 with one of its funniest moments – Captain substituted with about 25 minutes to go, sub comes on with the armband and spends the best part of a minute trying to find somebody that actually wanted to lead the team, eventually the goalkeeper reluctantly took it! Kinda summed up their tournament really, Rudderless!! They are going to have to improve a hell of a lot by the time the host the 2018 World Cup!
They auto qualify don't they?
Anyway, I hear that the men in white coats are working on a solution.
-
However, I have a sneaky suspicion that Russia will do Wales on Monday!
Well, that wasn’t the World’s best sporting prediction – Russia were bloody awful last night, awkward and ineffective, however they did provide Euro 2016 with one of its funniest moments – Captain substituted with about 25 minutes to go, sub comes on with the armband and spends the best part of a minute trying to find somebody that actually wanted to lead the team, eventually the goalkeeper reluctantly took it! Kinda summed up their tournament really, Rudderless!! They are going to have to improve a hell of a lot by the time the host the 2018 World Cup!
They auto qualify don't they?
They do indeed, but in their current form they are going to make a seriously crappy host nation side, anyways they've got 2 years to get it together!
-
Thank you, Turkey - beating Czech Republic .... all three home nations are through - incl the Sunday Choir Boys League boys of N.Ireland..
-
Thank you, Turkey - beating Czech Republic .... all three home nations are through - incl the Sunday Choir Boys League boys of N.Ireland..
I found the game between the Irish Choir Boys and the German Frauliens quite a good view. I suspect we will now see the chaff fall to the side.
-
I found the game between the Irish Choir Boys and the German Frauliens quite a good view. I suspect we will now see the chaff fall to the side.
The Republic of Oirland beat the ey-tais ...so they also make it through the group stages
England v Iceland looks interesting ...I think Wales [ statistically ] should beat even littler N.Ireland - as they have more super stars..but nought wrong in #daringtodream
-
1 - 0 gerinthere...
-
:censored: 1 - 1
-
Double :censored: 1 - 2.
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
-
I hate foooking football.......
English players are all overpaid, under performing pratts...
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
Fook off.... :dh:
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
Fook off.... :dh:
Come on it was a funny post, really lighten up.
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
Fook off.... :dh:
Come on it was a funny post, really lighten up.
It had me in stitches..... :ROFL:
Had to keep hold of my nose as well, just in case it got out of shape... :laugh:
-
Fook off.... :dh:
My Geordie golfing buddy gave me the same message.
Called me a "cock-sucking Sherman"
Now that's some professional cussing ;D
-
Fook off.... :dh:
My Geordie golfing buddy gave me the same message.
Called me a "cock-sucking Sherman"
Now that's some professional cussing ;D
Trump that...... :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
-
Fook off.... :dh:
My Geordie golfing buddy gave me the same message.
Called me a "cock-sucking Sherman"
Now that's some professional cussing ;D
Trump that...... :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
As long as a Sherman does not suck your Willie all is good.
-
Fook off.... :dh:
My Geordie golfing buddy gave me the same message.
Called me a "cock-sucking Sherman"
Now that's some professional cussing ;D
Trump that...... :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
As long as a Sherman does not suck your Willie all is good.
Will just stick it into the ear, and fook some sense into him, just like a few folks here need....
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
Imagine that. Tiny Iceland beats England. :ROFL:
-
Imagine that. Tiny Iceland beats England. :ROFL:
Was on a long drive and when England scored the first goal - SC called - as we thought it was all over ..got two results way wrong in one week
Arrived in N.Wales to watch the second half - screaming at England's manager to take Rooney off - which he did with 4 mins to go ...and a 18 yr old lad from Manchester Utd was the only England player worthy of the shirt.
Well done, Iceland .... you topped your group, to qualify - beating The Netherlands - and now England ..
Watch out France... :chuckle:
-
England doing a "Brexit" from the tournament
:ROFL:
Imagine that. Tiny Iceland beats England. :ROFL:
But you know what is funnier? Those stupid dumb ass footballers with nothing in side their skulls will still be paid stupid money. I never understand why they don't just fire the lot of them.. maybe if the footballers knew there was a chance they would become Unemployed if they failed to fin them may do what they are paid to do.. Just like everyone else on the planet. :'(
-
maybe if the footballers knew there was a chance they would become Unemployed if they failed to fin them may do what they are paid to do.. Just like everyone else on the planet. :'(
Very true, unfortunately what will happen (and they know it all to well) is they'll pop off for a couple of weeks (probably 4 weeks) holiday before returning to their clubs after a longer rest than those not on international duty where by 2 weeks into the EPL season they will be treated like World class gods by the British media again! Although they were proven to be a pile of dogshit in major competition again, they'll be labeled the best thing since sliced bread again by September!! Its the *snip*s that pay £80+ to watch every weekend and pay the Sky sports premium every mouth that will see this trend continue!!
Its rinse and repeat every 2 years - pile of crap and I'm sick and tired of it!!! If the Englands first choice defenders were sold in the current ridiculous market they would fetch minimum 30 million each yet they can't defend from a throw-in!!! FFS >:(
I think I'm also retiring from International football - watching it that is :chuckle:
-
I don't generally watch football anyway. It has just become a way to keep the masses occupied and have little to think about..while the elite rob them dry.. :chuckle:
-
Eddie Jones for the next England manager, he would knock these prima donnas into shape, just look what he has done with the England rugby team, nothing short of miraculous in the short time he has had in the job. Nine wins out of nine, a grand slam and a series whitewash of Australia, in Australia. tiphat :party0031:
-
Eddie Jones post match comment after whitewashing Australia for the first time in history, there's a lot of hard work to do still.
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
-
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
I was particularly inspired by his "these things happen" comment :ROFL:
-
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
I was particularly inspired by his "these things happen" comment :ROFL:
Yes a really inspiring comment that one :laugh:
-
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
[attachimg=1]
-
The English rugby team played great in Australia, and thoroughly deserved their whitewash.
:snivel:
-
The English rugby team played great in Australia, and thoroughly deserved their whitewash.
:snivel:
Agreed, they did play very well, although you have too to beat your guys on their home turf, I watched all three games and they did deserve the results. About time the Brits stuffed you Aussies at something :hidechair:
-
Agreed, they did play very well, although you have too to beat your guys on their home turf, I watched all three games and they did deserve the results. About time the Brits stuffed you Aussies at something :hidechair:
Be prepared for an American sweep in the Olympics later this summer!
-
Agreed, they did play very well, although you have too to beat your guys on their home turf, I watched all three games and they did deserve the results. About time the Brits stuffed you Aussies at something :hidechair:
Be prepared for an American sweep in the Olympics later this summer!
Not so sure, they are ranked about 6 in the World at the moment so a few good teams above them, including all the Southern Hemisphere teams.
-
Just heard Bobby Charlton was asked how he thought the England team of '66 would have fared against Iceland. " I think we'd have won 1-0 " he replied. "Only 1-0?" Said the reporter. "Yes," said Bobby. "Most of us are in our 70's now!" :laugh:
-
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
(Attachment Link)
Remind us ..which home nation failed to qualify ...?
-
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
I was particularly inspired by his "these things happen" comment :ROFL:
Yes a really inspiring comment that one :laugh:
I feel he also summed up the mood of the nation in his final press conference with the fantastic "I don't know why I'm here" line - funny enough I have the same thoughts whilst watching England play myself!
The bloke is as arrogant and detached from reality as they average politician! Surely it wouldn't have hurt just to admit we were crap and I (Roy) couldn't get a tune out of the players or had a clue how to change it! Would have made everybody feel a bit better!
-
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
I was particularly inspired by his "these things happen" comment :ROFL:
Yes a really inspiring comment that one :laugh:
I feel he also summed up the mood of the nation in his final press conference with the fantastic "I don't know why I'm here" line - funny enough I have the same thoughts whilst watching England play myself!
The bloke is as arrogant and detached from reality as they average politician! Surely it wouldn't have hurt just to admit we were crap and I (Roy) couldn't get a tune out of the players or had a clue how to change it! Would have made everybody feel a bit better!
You would think for someone who is paid £3.5m a year could of at least turned up for a press conference and put in a little effort, 15 minutes wouldn't have hurt would it, everything to do with football is the same, they are all so out of touch as you say.
[attachimg=1]
-
Roy Hodgeson post match comment after getting beaten by Iceland, it's been a nice journey
Say no more! :'(
I was particularly inspired by his "these things happen" comment :ROFL:
Yes a really inspiring comment that one :laugh:
I feel he also summed up the mood of the nation in his final press conference with the fantastic "I don't know why I'm here" line - funny enough I have the same thoughts whilst watching England play myself!
The bloke is as arrogant and detached from reality as they average politician! Surely it wouldn't have hurt just to admit we were crap and I (Roy) couldn't get a tune out of the players or had a clue how to change it! Would have made everybody feel a bit better!
You would think for someone who is paid £3.5m a year could of at least turned up for a press conference and put in a little effort, 15 minutes wouldn't have hurt would it, everything to do with football is the same, they are all out of touch as you say.
Exactly, if the bloke had just admitted what the World had already seen with their own eyes he would have at least managed to maintain his dignity! Sadly he made himself look a dick!
Bottom line is - he didn't know his best line up, he persisted in picking out-of-form players and forcing them on the pitch when they should have been on a beach somewhere, playing said/and other players out of position, trying to shoehorn a player into the team when he should have just played his own position or wait his turn on the bench + having no team shape, no heart, no effort, no skill and with all the aforementioned no luck!!
-
Exactly, if the bloke had just admitted what the World had already seen with their own eyes he would have at least managed to maintain his dignity! Sadly he made himself look a dick!
Bottom line is - he didn't know his best line up, he persisted in picking out-of-form players and forcing them on the pitch when they should have been on a beach somewhere, playing said/and other players out of position, trying to shoehorn a player into the team when he should have just played his own position or wait his turn on the bench + having no team shape, no heart, no effort, no skill and with all the aforementioned no luck!!
:laugh: apart from that they were all fantastic :'( and wait for it, now they are talking about Southgate as the next manager, thankfully he has ruled himself out, you couldn't make this stuff up :'( I think I'll stick to my rugby from now on, at least they put in some effort and try for their Country, and win things which is a bit of a novelty, yes they are doing damn well right now.
-
Exactly, if the bloke had just admitted what the World had already seen with their own eyes he would have at least managed to maintain his dignity! Sadly he made himself look a dick!
Bottom line is - he didn't know his best line up, he persisted in picking out-of-form players and forcing them on the pitch when they should have been on a beach somewhere, playing said/and other players out of position, trying to shoehorn a player into the team when he should have just played his own position or wait his turn on the bench + having no team shape, no heart, no effort, no skill and with all the aforementioned no luck!!
:laugh: apart from that they were all fantastic :'( and wait for it, now they are talking about Southgate as the next manager, thankfully he has ruled himself out, you couldn't make this stuff up :'( I think I'll stick to my rugby from now on, at least they put in some effort and try for their Country, and are doing damn well right now.
Woy did make possible Freudian slip in that press conference when he refereed to not successor but "successors" but maybe its just his speech impediment :laugh:
However, it wouldn't surprise me if we go the twin managers route like Iceland had the other night - which reminds me their guy Lars Lagerback would be a great choice - he's had Englands number every time he's played against us - at very best he's knows exactly how crap we are and how to exploit it - maybe the bloke to fix it!!! Just a thought!
-
Exactly, if the bloke had just admitted what the World had already seen with their own eyes he would have at least managed to maintain his dignity! Sadly he made himself look a dick!
Bottom line is - he didn't know his best line up, he persisted in picking out-of-form players and forcing them on the pitch when they should have been on a beach somewhere, playing said/and other players out of position, trying to shoehorn a player into the team when he should have just played his own position or wait his turn on the bench + having no team shape, no heart, no effort, no skill and with all the aforementioned no luck!!
:laugh: apart from that they were all fantastic :'( and wait for it, now they are talking about Southgate as the next manager, thankfully he has ruled himself out, you couldn't make this stuff up :'( I think I'll stick to my rugby from now on, at least they put in some effort and try for their Country, and are doing damn well right now.
Woy did make possible Freudian slip in that press conference when he refereed to not successor but "successors" but maybe its just his speech impediment :laugh:
However, it wouldn't surprise me if we go the twin managers route like Iceland had the other night - which reminds me their guy Lars Lagerback would be a great choice - he's had Englands number every time he's played against us - at very best he's knows exactly how crap we are and how to exploit it - maybe the bloke to fix it!!! Just a thought!
Yes I heard somewhere that he had managed teams around 6 times that had played England in tournaments and I think had never lost.
-
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
(Attachment Link)
Remind us ..which home nation failed to qualify ...?
So if you don't qualify you can't watch or make light of a massive upset? Arse.
-
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
(Attachment Link)
Remind us ..which home nation failed to qualify ...?
Why Netherlands of course!
-
The numbers of Chris are painful to look at.
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
(Attachment Link)
Remind us ..which home nation failed to qualify ...?
Why Netherlands of course!
Have the Dutch ever been a rugby nation?
As for footsie well if the planets & a few stars plus various ego's align the Cloggies usually loose one game.
-
Have the Dutch ever been a rugby nation?
Yes, ever heard of the Amsterdam Admirals? It was just that in Netherlands the sport didn't have much of a fan-base or advertisement budgets.
-
Have the Dutch ever been a rugby nation?
Yes, ever heard of the Amsterdam Admirals? It was just that in Netherlands the sport didn't have much of a fan-base or advertisement budgets.
:( Forgot that, several years ago I had interaction (social) with the guy who as I recalled ran the 'program' not the coach I would say manager but he was so over the top crazy, he would make some present on RUA seem entirely normal.
No offense to Wiz the claims would be more fanciful, no offense to Moby the claims would be more extreme diversions from reality, not offense to FiFi but the discussions would leave a judge tied up (verbally).
What is complex about winning? Look at it this way we are not playing cricket.
-
Not sure about the other English guys here but the last eight of the competition has proved to be both sobering and depressing!!
Wales who were the only team we actually did beat are now in the Semi's with a bloody good chance of getting into the final and fair play to them as they were fantastic against Belgium.
Germany and Italy proved exactly how far we are away from the top nations - light years in fact :(
And to rub it in France thrashed the pants off Iceland who beat us easily on Monday!!!
Anyways - good luck to Wales on Wednesday tiphat
-
Not sure about the other English guys here but the last eight of the competition has proved to be both sobering and depressing!!
Wales who were the only team we actually did beat are now in the Semi's with a bloody good chance of getting into the final and fair play to them as they were fantastic against Belgium.
Germany and Italy proved exactly how fair we are away from the top nations - light years in fact :(
And to rub it in France thrashed the pants off Iceland who beat us easily on Monday!!!
Anyways - good luck to Wales on Wednesday tiphat
Sickening hey! we have the players but they are completely useless as a team :'( I think we must have worn Iceland out on Monday for France to beat them so easily :-X
-
Now you boys know what its like to be Scottish!! :GRRRR:
-
Not sure about the other English guys here but the last eight of the competition has proved to be both sobering and depressing!!
Wales who were the only team we actually did beat are now in the Semi's with a bloody good chance of getting into the final and fair play to them as they were fantastic against Belgium.
Germany and Italy proved exactly how fair we are away from the top nations - light years in fact :(
And to rub it in France thrashed the pants off Iceland who beat us easily on Monday!!!
Anyways - good luck to Wales on Wednesday tiphat
I think we must have worn Iceland out on Monday for France to beat them so easily :-X
Yep, that's what it was - we softened them up :thumbsup:
-
It was difficult for me to enjoy the game too. :whist11:
(Attachment Link)
Remind us ..which home nation failed to qualify ...?
Why Netherlands of course!
So if you don't qualify you can't watch or make light of a massive upset? Arse.
Exactly, Markje...and who topped your group ..beating you on the way to Euro 2016 ... Iceland ..
Rosco..
When your team weren't even good enough to BE there ...and the Dutch were also beaten by Iceland - it was hardly an 'upset' ....