QuoteAlso this forum is more pro-russian and the other more pro-ukrainian
Can you define "pro-russian" please? I am asking because there are many Russians with different (political/world) views. For instance, a Muslim living in Dagestan may have a rather different worldview than an atheist living in Saint Petersburg and than an Orthodox Christian living in Vladivostok (all the three are Russians - россияне). Most Russians actually don't have any views at all, all they seem to crave is to consume, to enjoy life and to propagate (I am not saying it is bad, I am just sharing an observation with you).
Answering to the thread question - I found this forum a long time ago, was reading it a lot but was too shy to join.:)
Hope this helps and welcome.
QuoteHope this helps and welcome.
I see. Well, the near future may (I actually think it surely will) bring a lot of nasty surprises to the staunch supporters of Putin. It all begins with the economy. The ruble crashed quite recently, it will surely crash again. The prices for some basic products have doubled during the last 2-3 years, the salaries are not catching up at all. A serious hint of the things to come - the stock price of the RF groceries giants like Magnit - one share cost well over 10K rubles just a year ago, right now it is hovering around 4K, despite all the cash that hundreds of thousands of foreign football fans have just left in the country, and will surely go lower. There are hundreds of clear-cut macro and micro indicators that the economy is dilapidating and going to the dogs, that it may actually be beyond repair if the things continue at the present pace. Not sure why I should welcome all this as a Russian. Besides, I am not stupid enough to welcome the recent raise of petrol prices and of the pension age and of VAT.
All this in exchange for what? For the perceived grandeur I am told about on tv daily? I heard all this before the collapse of the USSR, this and much more. For a chance to see some newly painted rusty Soviet era war ships tumbling and colliding with bridges (ref.: in the Neva river? I saw them brand new and going straight when I was a child, I wasn't impressed much even back then.
But his support is from the middle class which I understand is barely hanging on.
With pro-Russian I don't mean personally more pro-kremlin, but more like, if it rains in New-York its probable putin didn't do it.QuoteI think a correct way to explain the difference of a pro-Russian as opposed to pro-Ukraine view point is is to state a Kremlin centric standpoint as opposed to a Ukraine Western leaning standpoint.
Guess it is more clear now, he should have said "pro-kremlin" instead of "pro-russian", then I would not have any questions.
I WAS there, I DO remember and I am very happy that the social, economic and political situation in the Russian Federation is vastly improved, but not yet perfect. It is hard to see how either a business as usual, or alternative leadership (given the candidates for the job) could have done better than with Putin and his absolute focus upon rebuilding the sovereignty of what was a dissolving state and country.
On the other hand, perhaps, given his business interests, Seasoned would prefer to see things back as they were in the late 90's and early 00's. As a relatively well to do foreigner in Russia one could certainly see some advantages to those days and a seller of brides stood to make much more money then than now. On the other hand, I am happy to see that Russia is rebuilding and refinding its place in the world.
QuoteI WAS there, I DO remember and I am very happy that the social, economic and political situation in the Russian Federation is vastly improved, but not yet perfect. It is hard to see how either a business as usual, or alternative leadership (given the candidates for the job) could have done better than with Putin and his absolute focus upon rebuilding the sovereignty of what was a dissolving state and country.
On the other hand, perhaps, given his business interests, Seasoned would prefer to see things back as they were in the late 90's and early 00's. As a relatively well to do foreigner in Russia one could certainly see some advantages to those days and a seller of brides stood to make much more money then than now. On the other hand, I am happy to see that Russia is rebuilding and refinding its place in the world.
I wrote it on the other thread already - I saw thousands of young ladies eager to meet foreign men during the World Cup, nothing has changed since the 90ies in this respect, my site is extremely popular among the Russian ladies, I actually need to find more men to satisfy the frantically increasing demand among the Russian females.
My personal salary was actually way higher under Yeltsin in the 90ies than under Putin, I could afford way more. The salary, when I was working for someone else. Now I am working only for myself. Putin just got lucky with exorbitantly high oil and gas prices during many years, that's all, but this luck seems to be running out. As to the crime rates, I don't see them diminishing. It is true that the federal media are hushing up many things though.
What vast improvement of the social and economic situation are you talking about? Even according to the official stats the number of those living below the poverty line (it is like 120 dollars in Russia) has increased by 4 million people recently and is 24 million people. In reality I think this number is closer to 30-40 million people, out of 140 million. I see people rummaging in garbage containers hoping to find food or empty bottles every day - every time I take a smoke on the balcony.
The owner tends to believe that pro Putin is the same as pro Russian; no matter if the outcome of certain actions seem to harm Russia. :biggrin:
Hope this helps and welcome.
Yeah, I noticed that the other Forum had a women theme. Although not so much dating but more shipping in a foreign bride to the US. Didn't know what to contribute to that so I didn't sign up so far, ha.
The middle class barely exists, I would say.
I see people rummaging in garbage containers hoping to find food or empty bottles every day -
Do any other expats have Russian friends living in poverty?
If you want to find that, you'll find it in any EU country, and across the US and the UK if you mingle among the poor.
Poverty is in every country.. try visiting some areas of London as for the state pension its no better deal for the old folk in the uk today compared to Russia in real terms..
Of course much depends on who you associate with, Seasoned if you spend most of your life in the little bar besides your house which is full of drunkards evening after evening drinking vodka until you can't stand up, you know the bar where every few months one of the regulars dies from some problem , where every person has just two teeth in their moth and has had the same clothes on for 2 months of course you will see poverty..
I have no such friends in Russia most youngsters seem to be doing very well for themselves if they work hard at it. My developer earns more than 200,000 rules a month has a brand new apartment, car and all that most Westerners have, so do many others. But of course they will not be found down the local bar full of alcoholics..
Do any other expats have Russian friends living in poverty?
tell me the name of a Russian-made computer, television set, cell phone, washing machine, etc.).
and even denying the middle class exists. Just because *YOU* don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Some statistics indicate that over 35 thousand plants have been closed in Russia since 2005. Some new have been opened, but they can be counted in hundreds rather than thousands and many of them are just branches of foreign enterprises.
Togliatti would not be successful in any way without Renault, it is basically a Renault venue now. I owned a Lada for several years in the past, it was a cool survival experience, but it was total sh't as a car. Putin is still riding in a Mercedes, the rumors are he has abandoned even the lame Kortezh project. I cannot imagine Merkel or Trump riding in a Lada, can you? Enough said for the so-called grandeur.
You would like to discuss the space? Ok, fine, let's do it. Russia's share in the global commercial launches is only 2% now - https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/aktsii/dolya-rossii-na-rynke-kosmicheskikh-puskov-rukhnula-do-2percent-1001790025
They have abandoned the Vostochny space port after a number of failures as I understand: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-space-programme-collapse-soyuz-2-1b-rocket-cosmodrome-launch-failure-latest-news-a8094856.html
https://ru.krymr.com/a/28884350.htmlQuoteand even denying the middle class exists. Just because *YOU* don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
I am not denying it exists, I am saying it is very small. And found mainly in 3-4 big cities. You go from Moscow like 200 km (I worked in Novomoskovsk, Tula region, for some time) and it looks like WW-II has never ended there - old houses that are falling apart, etc. Even in the city where I live we still have barracks built by German prisoners in 1946-1948 and thousands of people still live in those (5 minutes drive from my area).
“We have to proceed not from emotions, but from the real assessment of economic conditions and prospects of its development and (the development of) the social sphere,”
Your going on about the same old crap that you have been moaning about in just about every other forum..anti Putin all your life..
The Soviet Union is finished for good!! The good old days when guys like you could do nothing BUT still be equal to everyone else are over.. The free apartment ain't coming your way any day soon.. neither is the free ride in life..
I would suggest you move to North Korea.. communism still exists there , so it means you get your free apartment but better than that you can still chase all the women about and have just as good chance catching a few of them.. I mean all guys are pretty well equal so no competition.. :laugh:
QuoteYour going on about the same old crap that you have been moaning about in just about every other forum..anti Putin all your life..
The Soviet Union is finished for good!! The good old days when guys like you could do nothing BUT still be equal to everyone else are over.. The free apartment ain't coming your way any day soon.. neither is the free ride in life..
I would suggest you move to North Korea.. communism still exists there , so it means you get your free apartment but better than that you can still chase all the women about and have just as good chance catching a few of them.. I mean all guys are pretty well equal so no competition.. :laugh:
Did I tell you I want communism or the Soviet Union or a free apartment (our family has three apartments now, plus a cool dacha, all came at a cost, but I don't need another apartment)? Capitalism is just fine. I want a true capitalism like in Finland or in Sweden. Or in the United States.
Yea you did tell me.. "It used to be easier to get the women.. now all they want is guys with money" life's a bitch!! Just like in most countries women want guys who work for a living.. Do you still think its clever to boast about having a g/f who you keep poor? Don't allow to have a mobile phone? and pay as little as possible .. but are quiet happy to sit in a bar and wave 5000 rouble note about saying what hooker are you going to give a meal to tonight ...your a funny man Andrey and for sure this is my last communication with you,,, good luck with what ever you do in the future..or any of your get rich fast schemes ..
QuoteYea you did tell me.. "It used to be easier to get the women.. now all they want is guys with money" life's a bitch!! Just like in most countries women want guys who work for a living.. Do you still think its clever to boast about having a g/f who you keep poor? Don't allow to have a mobile phone? and pay as little as possible .. but are quiet happy to sit in a bar and wave 5000 rouble note about saying what hooker are you going to give a meal to tonight ...your a funny man Andrey and for sure this is my last communication with you,,, good luck with what ever you do in the future..or any of your get rich fast schemes ..
There-there, no need to get excited or upset. Life is a b'tch as you said. By easier I meant "more pleasant", that's all. But it is also maybe because I was younger back then, people tend to be nostalgic about their younger days. It is not that I suffer from the lack of female attention under capitalism, however, I want a different capitalism:). I am not a communist and have never been one.
What, you don’t like women who behave like piranha’s? :laugh:
Every guy in America would like a woman who is pleasant, usually the ones who are that way are already taken.
The owner tends to believe that pro Putin is the same as pro Russian; no matter if the outcome of certain actions seem to harm Russia. :biggrin:
Hope this helps and welcome.
The owner can speak for himself, thanks. :nod:
also most of the women ive dated which are middle class have taken some sort of international vacation.
The owner tends to believe that pro Putin is the same as pro Russian; no matter if the outcome of certain actions seem to harm Russia. :biggrin:
Hope this helps and welcome.
The owner can speak for himself, thanks. :nod:
What?!! And all this time I thought Andrew was the owner. :coffeeread:
When you make people work longer in their older years, they won't go quietly. :chuckle:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-protests/protesters-chant-anti-putin-slogans-at-moscow-rally-against-retirement-age-plan-idUSKBN1KJ0HJ
Quotealso most of the women ive dated which are middle class have taken some sort of international vacation.
It is the definition of the middle class for you? Seriously? It costs like 300 dollars to fly, say, to Egypt/Bulgaria for one week from the European part of Russia. The RF government definition of the middle class is as follows: "The Sociology Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences considers it the 44 percent of all Russians who, as of one year ago, had incomes totaling 23,000 rubles ($365) per month per family member, including children and the elderly."
It sounds as a complete joke. But yes, if we go by this definition at least 50% of the Russians are middle class. Middle class, my arse.:) Orwell would have written a nice book about it if he was still alive. Most of those Putin's "middle class" members are toothless though by the time time they hit 50 - one tooth implant costs around 60K rubles minimum, this "middle class" cannot afford to have teeth. But a trip to Turkey once per year - sure thing. Lol. Snowy Nigeria middle class. My arse hurts from laughing again, sorry, I must immediately adjourn to the restroom now. Jesus Christ bananas. Middle class. Ah. I got it now.
One of the guys I know is very miserable now - his wife left for Turkey for vacation but he is jobless at the moment so he has to foot the bill by working as a taxi driver because he needs some cash desperately to cover her trip. I will ask him tomorrow, he is most likely middle class too, at least for now while he is a happy Yandex Taxi Driver.
What I like about putinism is that everything has gotten so Orwellian, including many people around me, that all this provides a truly fascinating, free entertainment, it is like being at a hilarious standup comedy show 24/7. Up to the point till the comedian grins widely and his false set of teeth clatters onto the floor exposing his rotten and bleeding, cavernous gums.
But Russians have the leader they want, the leader they need and who is a servant of the Russian people and country.
There is though a middle class in Russia that seems to support Putin. My brother in law would be an example. He is the Vice President in charge of day to day operations of one of the larger Russian Vodka distillers. Often though he needs to be at local distillers that have crises. His last stint was in Ufa. Divorced and remarried. Has two cars, a decent apartment inside the ring road of Moscow on the West side and enjoys watching his favorite football (soccer) team. He and his family go on vacations to Europe, primarily Spain.
For what it is worth he hates his job and feels like he is in a race with rats. Sounds like middle class to me.
There is no objective dispute that Putin enjoys huge popular support.
QuoteI WAS there, I DO remember and I am very happy that the social, economic and political situation in the Russian Federation is vastly improved, but not yet perfect. It is hard to see how either a business as usual, or alternative leadership (given the candidates for the job) could have done better than with Putin and his absolute focus upon rebuilding the sovereignty of what was a dissolving state and country.
On the other hand, perhaps, given his business interests, Seasoned would prefer to see things back as they were in the late 90's and early 00's. As a relatively well to do foreigner in Russia one could certainly see some advantages to those days and a seller of brides stood to make much more money then than now. On the other hand, I am happy to see that Russia is rebuilding and refinding its place in the world.
I wrote it on the other thread already - I saw thousands of young ladies eager to meet foreign men during the World Cup, nothing has changed since the 90ies in this respect, my site is extremely popular among the Russian ladies, I actually need to find more men to satisfy the frantically increasing demand among the Russian females. Read Ivan's blog for inspiration if you don't trust me - all is easy-peasy in Moscow in this respect even now, in Moscow - the richest Russian city... So, no, I absolutely have no vested interest, I am just sharing my observations. You view the situation as a status quo, I view it as dynamically changing (again, check out Magnit stock price, can give you many examples like this).
My personal salary was actually way higher under Yeltsin in the 90ies than under Putin, I could afford way more. The salary, when I was working for someone else. Now I am working only for myself. Putin just got lucky with exorbitantly high oil and gas prices during many years, that's all, but this luck seems to be running out. As to the crime rates, I don't see them diminishing. It is true that the federal media are hushing up many things though.
What vast improvement of the social and economic situation are you talking about? Even according to the official stats the number of those living below the poverty line (it is like 120 dollars in Russia) has increased by 4 million people recently and is 24 million people. In reality I think this number is closer to 30-40 million people, out of 140 million. I see people rummaging in garbage containers hoping to find food or empty bottles every day - every time I take a smoke on the balcony.
Andrew, do you live in Russia? If not, you must relocate here asap and obtain the Russian citizenship, what you describe sounds like paradise. Don't just do the talk, walk the walk.
He lives in the Baltic's and calls it Russia, light.
After retirement, I plan on moving to Yevpatoria, i've grown quite fond of the city.QuoteHe lives in the Baltic's and calls it Russia, light.
Maybe he should try his luck here, in the Russian reality, with the Russian passport, preferably in the real Russian city like Solekamsk or Magadan or at least Irkutsk (yes, you guys got it right, there is still life outside MKAD), since he adores the whole setup? Obtaining the Russian citizenship should not be hard, I would be eager to render all meaningful assistance, free of charge, hell, I will even be willing to pay him for this pleasure, in cash - after all, I have helped people obtaining the British citizenship, so I am 100% certain the reverse process will even be easier. Otherwise it all sounds rather weird. Andrew, fancy relocating to Solekamsk or to Saransk in Mordovia to enjoy Putin's Russia you are so fond of? To get the hands-on experience, so to speak. I am eager to help.
After retirement, I plan on moving to Yevpatoria, i've grown quite fond of the city.
I can only imagine that the bill literally comes later when they have to live off bread and water so to speak.
One day they'll wake up to the reality of all this and then shit will hit the fan. But that's still a bit in the future.
How many middle class americans do you know that have no debt, zero debt? I don't know any. yet I know a few Russians with zero debt and two apartments. live in one and rent the other for income, in addition to a regular job. im talking about midldle class. these are people with more disposable income than the average American and they can afford to take Svetlana to Thailand for a week, while most middle class americans cant. Russians also tend to inherit property. Between rising health care costs, old peoples gambling addiction, the scam of a reverse mortgage..... americans aren't leaving much lately to the next generation.
Yes, Russia has a large middle class. Ive flown Aeroflot a lot, Yerevan, Irkutsk, Vladivostok, Tbilisi, etc. And each time full of Russians. also most of the women ive dated which are middle class have taken some sort of international vacation.
Think Venezuela, we are surely going there.
"The production models we've tried so far have failed and the responsibility is ours, mine and yours,"
Crimea is a quiet Touristy peninsula now, most of that buzzing happened in 2014-2016 , now it only happens close to Belbek, but here in NL thats no different close to soesterberg (Military) or Schiphol (Civilian) :)QuoteAfter retirement, I plan on moving to Yevpatoria, i've grown quite fond of the city.
Retiring somewhere with a bundle of cash/abundant Western pension is not exactly the same thing as living with the Russian passport as a Russian for decades here. Actually, it is a different cup of tea altogether.
You are welcome to retire there of course, only if you are ready for the increased military presence and for the military choppers buzzing right above your head on the beach (ref.: sporadic electricity/water/Internet outages (ref.: sometimes prolonged ones, for the questionable services and for unclear bank cards statuses (even Sberbank doesn't operate there as I understand, fearing the sanctions despite all the hot air). And who knows what else will happen in the Crimea in the near future. I personally think the story will keep developing, look at the history of the peninsula possession: Other than that, the Crimea is a great place with fantastic nature, I took my gf (the one who allegedly suffers from the lack of money and cell phones) three times there, she enjoyed the beaches and the sea a lot.
Russia is catching up slowly to the decades of neglect from Ukraine.
But so is the income of citizens on state-support (unemployed, pensions, etc.). It nearly doubled when they left Ukraine.QuoteRussia is catching up slowly to the decades of neglect from Ukraine.
Catching up? Yes, the prices for groceries and many other things are almost two times higher than in Ukraine now, congratulations.:)
Yes, catching up like this: And like this (in your beloved Evpatoria):
And how is it Russia's fault that prices have soared and what can they do about it? Think like a gov't and not blame it. Crimea is effectively an island since Ukraine closed land-access to Crimea. I expect that now that the Bridge is open, prices will become more reasonable again.
Think like a gov't and not blame it.
QuoteThink like a gov't and not blame it.
No, I want the government to think like me and to do what I really want as a citizen and to have it suit my needs, not vice versa, sorry. I think this approach is pretty normal in the cizilized world.:)
Aha, in that case all is well in Crimea.
Aha, in that case all is well in Crimea. Problems are being picked up and solved and life gradually becomes better each year.
I have no problem with that, its your money and you choose how to spend it. Some people never go anywhere beyond their hometown and others travel all over the globe.QuoteAha, in that case all is well in Crimea. Problems are being picked up and solved and life gradually becomes better each year.
Sure, if you say so that is, I am not really sure at all. But it will never see neither me nor my money under today's circumstances, hope it is ok with you all there.
I don't like paying 100% on top, would rather spend about the same cash somewhere in Turkey or elsewhere, with much better services and without military fences with barbed wire blocking the sea view.In Evpatoria there are not military fences nor barbed wire. Its all tourist, tourist, tourist. Not really my ideal but the inlaws live there. Good Crimean shaslick is also a big bonus, I eat it for 20 days straight perhaps with some plogh for variation.
It is even worse - like 45% of the cars, say, in Saint Pete are credit ones (official stats, the number may be higher), many people cannot even afford those credits.
or you buy a 3-4 year old second hand car. Its about 33% of the original price and mostly can be payed without credit.
http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html
Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html
Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html
Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?
Cool , a breakdance show. Hopefully the fire-eater will also be here later and not further up the road like he usually is.http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html
Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?
Looks like it, crowd is now gathering here:
http://uastreaming.net/live/4/webcam-online-Evpatoriya-Restoran-%C2%ABBlack-Sea%C2%BB.html
Cool , a breakdance show. Hopefully the fire-eater will also be here later and not further up the road like he usually is.http://crimea-media.ru/Web_Evpatoriya_serfing.html
Serfing station in Evpatoria - I see only like 10 people on the beach. 17.00 now. Where are the crowds of tourists?
On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?
Looks like it, crowd is now gathering here:
http://uastreaming.net/live/4/webcam-online-Evpatoriya-Restoran-%C2%ABBlack-Sea%C2%BB.html
What next ~ kaZantip returning?
You seem quite keen to continually beat the same drum though. Just an observation.
And how is it Russia's fault that prices have soared and what can they do about it? Think like a gov't and not blame it. Crimea is effectively an island since Ukraine closed land-access to Crimea. I expect that now that the Bridge is open, prices will become more reasonable again.
I 'see' - so the four times increase in ferry traffic made no difference ?
I'm in another 'twilight zone' part of the world where most nations don't accept it's 'existence' and prices are much LOWER than the recognised part .. One can't fly here direct, and there's no bridge - just ferries from the one nation that does 'recognise' it's existence ....
This 'twilight zone' is a place Crimea needs to learn from, it seems
Seasoned, So you understand Moby's post are reviewed by moderators before they appear - it sometimes produces a slightly out of kilter posting time line. But it is preferable to Moby polluting every thread. As a suggestion I would learn how the quote feature works on RUA, it would make your posts more readable. As I have noted elsewhere sometimes Moby has at times a valid point but mostly he will argue which side of octagon is longer, it is tiring.
I suspect that Moby is referring to bridges in Turkey, Istanbul.
On their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?
What do you mean by "there's no bridge"? Are you suggesting the Kerch-Crimea bridge doesn't exist?
Seasoned, So you understand Moby's post are reviewed by moderators before they appear - it sometimes produces a slightly out of kilter posting time line. But it is preferable to Moby polluting every thread. As a suggestion I would learn how the quote feature works on RUA, it would make your posts more readable. As I have noted elsewhere sometimes Moby has at times a valid point but mostly he will argue which side of octagon is longer, it is tiring.
I suspect that Moby is referring to bridges in Turkey, Istanbul.
Some here can pay lip service to another standpoint but are so set in there viewpoints it becomes hard to alter there perspective. Seasoned you bring a sober and for some uncomfortable reality to the table. Please continue to share.
https://russia-insider.com/en/history/strangulation-russian-economy-1990s-was-deliberate-imf-policy/ri24210?ct=t(Russia_Insider_Daily_Headlines11_21_2014)&mc_cid=dc76b114b0&mc_eid=da9ae1910f
QuoteOn their way home to shower for the evening restaurant?
When I was in the Crimea back in 2007 there were crowds on the beaches even during the night, there was a vibrant night life on the sea shore and in the vicinity. And sometimes, when I visited a beach like this, I had to go home if I didn't show up early enough because there was no free spot available, not a single square meter of free space. Such places used to be packed at five in the evening. It looks like something has gone terribly wrong.
Just took a screen grab from a beach I know in Sochi ....MANY times more peoplePost a pic of the screengrab after 5 p.m. , this is apples and oranges.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/43804464561_51d9c2f2c6_b.jpg)
Still the beach will be quieter for your, Markje
or you buy a 3-4 year old second hand car. Its about 33% of the original price and mostly can be payed without credit.
A another 'expert' re buying cars in Russia ... Cars do not depreciate like in the west - much slower - historically
Example one of my cars: Vauxhall insignia Estate 2012 diesel - worth c.5,700 Pounds and double that in Russia
Something has gone wrong yes. Western Sanctions.
I can no longer fly direct to Simferopol. I always have to detour through Moscow which is a pain.
Ukrainians are being set up to hate Russians. So they avoid Crimea even if they *could* visit. Thanks Porky.
Crimea still manages to pull 3 million tourists from the usual 6 mil. in 2013.
Post a pic of the screengrab after 5 p.m. , this is apples and oranges.
Right, a VPN changing your timezone. you really do try to weasel your way out of everything don't you. If what you said was true, you could've immediatly said it when you posted the screenshot instead of now, when it seems you were caught with your pants down.
Post a pic of the screengrab after 5 p.m. , this is apples and oranges.
1/ The time was WAS after 1700 in Russia - I was on a UK VPN and the clock went to UK time..
2/ Check the time of the thread - do you think I could have anticipated your and seasons posts ? ;)
Now that you know the time WAS 17.17 Sochi time ..
QuoteSomething has gone wrong yes. Western Sanctions.
Putin said those sanctions will only make Russia stronger. Are you now raising your voice against the President's opinion, comrade? How do you dare? :popcorn:
All what you have done? It seems Russia has sheltered more than a million Ukrainian refugees from Donbass. Russia prevents the Donbass region from being totally overrun by a power-mad thief and murderer for president and Russia heard Crimea's plight to please rescue them from the nazi's in the Government now.QuoteI can no longer fly direct to Simferopol. I always have to detour through Moscow which is a pain.
Ukrainians are being set up to hate Russians. So they avoid Crimea even if they *could* visit. Thanks Porky.
So, you believe the Ukrs have no reasons to hate us? After all we have done? Rilly? Or you buy the official RF propaganda?
You were correct last years. This year will be very different for Crimea.QuoteCrimea still manages to pull 3 million tourists from the usual 6 mil. in 2013.
Thank you for admitting I was correct in my assessments. Even if we assume for a second the Ukrs loved every Russian as a dear brother, why would they need the expensive Crimea if they have the cheap Odessa beaches?
I believe that Russia is getting stronger
All what you have done? It seems Russia has sheltered more than a million Ukrainian refugees from Donbass. Russia prevents the Donbass region from being totally overrun by a power-mad thief and murderer for president and Russia heard Crimea's plight to please rescue them from the nazi's in the Government now.
Mark, this is a bloke nostalgic for the bad old days for the advantages that a few were able to get. In practical terms he has no idea of what would be better than exists now except that he wants what people in some more wealthy countries have but without the effort required to get there.
Probably he believes in magic too.
QuoteI believe that Russia is getting stronger
Stronger in what way???? The rubble crashed since 2014, the prices spiked, VAT has been increased up to 20%, the pension age has been steeply raised. I used to adore visiting the Crimea, now I don't even want to go there - because of the prices, among other things, so there is no reason for me to use that new bridge (which was built in a very dangerous zone, Stalin built a bridge once in the same area, it collapsed after 8 months).
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Stronger as in : Local farming produce, like grain, apples and pears are becoming much better quality and more professionally farmed to meet the consumer demand. I know about that because pear-farmers in my hometown are all going bankrupt because of the sanctions. They're already convinced that even if the sanctions lift now, they won't be able to sell to russia whom is now self-supporting.
Pears, I got it. Why is bread so expensive in comparison to 2014 prices if the Russian farmers are so well-to-do now? I am paying for bread way more than in 2014, at least 40% more. Why are the petrol prices rising?My wife says that most of the groceries bought in Crimea are on-par with pricing in Netherlands.
Why has the stock price of Magnit, the Russian groceries retail giant, fallen from 10K to 4K this year is everything is so wonderful and "Russia is getting stronger" and the food, including pears, is produced in abundance?????
You are simply keeping your head in that beach sand and refusing to look around. I am sure Venezuela also produces a lot of fruit but it is not helping the overall situation at all.
Mark, this is a bloke nostalgic for the bad old days for the advantages that a few were able to get. In practical terms he has no idea of what would be better than exists now except that he wants what people in some more wealthy countries have but without the effort required to get there.
Probably he believes in magic too.
My wife says that most of the groceries bought in Crimea are on-par with pricing in Netherlands.
For russian standards , thats expensive. However utilities like water, electric, rent, internet etc. are all cheaper there. Gasoline prices are still a joke in RU, in NL you can easily pay 1.70 Euro / Litre or 1.43/Litre for diesel fuel.
My MIL had her pension doubled when she went from UKR->RU , so if pricing has increased 40% like you said, she is still better off on average than before.
Her wage is about the same as it was back then, except inflation in Russia is much better than in Ukraine, so again she is better off.
IMF is always pursuing its own agendas and the agendas of those who are behind it. It is not a charitfy fund, and even charity funds sometimes have undeclared agendas.
Besides obtaining a valuable link from you, it would be nice to hear your even more valuable thoughts. I am not a fan of IMF but it doesn't make me a fan of Putin.
Mark, this is a bloke nostalgic for the bad old days for the advantages that a few were able to get. In practical terms he has no idea of what would be better than exists now except that he wants what people in some more wealthy countries have but without the effort required to get there.
Probably he believes in magic too.
As you know so much about economics and Financial affairs, can you please tell us how much is the External Trading Debt of Russia for years 2017 & 2018.
his actual purpose is to promote his newly created "Dating site" and make as many backlinks as possible. What he doesn't know is that Google has changed his algorithm and only present sites that paid one way or another. My SEO for my "hoby forum" was very good and in most searches it was appearing at the top of the front page..... now no money no honey as they say!
Our resident parrot squawks.
At times Wiz has an interesting point, mostly it is a old timer from a far away planet.
Our resident parrot squawks.
At times Wiz has an interesting point, mostly it is a old timer from a far away planet.
AvHdB
We all know you are here to Troll everybody who dares to criticise your tribe..... but it's time to stop been rude to everybody who is not following your purpose in life.
You know well from the past, if you continue posting these rude messages you are only going to get verbal abuse from all of us who respect our selves. So be careful what your post because you will get what you deserve and then you will go crying to Manny to protect you.
If you don't like what me and Andrew post then do not answer or don't get involved in our conversation. There are plenty of other subjects to get involved and earn your salary from ADL or the special Defence Department in Haifa.
Learn to be civilised and not an asshole.
tiphat
Mark, this is a bloke nostalgic for the bad old days for the advantages that a few were able to get. In practical terms he has no idea of what would be better than exists now except that he wants what people in some more wealthy countries have but without the effort required to get there.
Probably he believes in magic too.
Curious where in any post does anyone desire to return to the Yeltsin period?
For what it is worth this is standard Andrew style to rubbish indirectly the poster when it does not fit in withhisthe Kremlin viewpoint. Most posting have been to the Krim, Russia or Ukraine where as our own arm chair prat can only dodge realities and spew the excrement of bulls.
Probably some think there personal gas is sweet smelling.
Really what some are unhappy with is the reality that Seasoned has noted, you guys are seeing your Putin bubble deflated. Both Andrew or Wiz insulting another poster is OK but you cry when it is turned around.
Please get a life and grow up*.
*Not in that order.
It is pretty obvious that you did not read my very long post and understood nothing of my analysis, as you have set ideas which you probably created by watching the Hollywood films, like most Russians.
Rome was never build in one day!!
It is pretty obvious that you did not read my very long post and understood nothing of my analysis, as you have set ideas which you probably created by watching the Hollywood films, like most Russians.No worries, I read your long post, it is full of zionist-anglosaxon conspiracies. If you adore Putin why not relocate to Solekamsk, Magadan or Saransk for your pension? The air is great there, you will feel like you belong to something fantastic finally. I can help you obtaining the Russian citizenship. Of course you will need to live on the common Russian pension of USD200 per month, to enjoy a truly genuine and authentic Russian experience. Most of it will be spent of the utilities and the medication, but I think you will have around 30 dollars per month to buy food. If it is not enough, I will teach you how to collect bottles - many Russian pensioners do that to survive, it keeps them in a remarkable shape. In the evenings you will be able to see and to hear your dear leader in the news every day, for many hours on end. You don't know what you are missing! На здоровье!:)
QuoteRome was never build in one day!!
You do know the formidable Roman empire collapsed, right? That's the problem with empires - they always disintegrate. By the way, the Crimea was a part of the Roman empire at a certain point.
It is very clear that you do not read carefully my posts and you make statements which are not true and only are created from your tunnel vision & mental block of the fantasy world you are living.
You also don't know how to use the {Quotes so we can know from which post you are you quoting!
My posts are there for anybody to read and see that I never said that I adore Putin and all the other rubbish you are posting.
You also missed or never read my posts, otherwise you should know that I already have a flat over there, pay my utility and other bills with a Direct Debit and have never paid more (maximum) of £30 a month = 2500 Rubles or $39 Dollars[/b], on today prices. On the earlier years it was much cheaper, covering TV, Phone, very fast Internet, electricity and all other services. My mother in Law has been very happy with me as I made her a very modern babushka. I have an electronics engineer from UFA Net, who takes care of he computer, trained babouschka how to use it and have never paid him more than $8 or £6 pounds a visit and keeps the pc in tip top condition.
Baboushka has over $150 disposable pension to buy food for herself and a Debit Card from My Bank to draw money as she needs to, (mostly to help other family members.)!
BTW My Babouschka has travelled to Moscow a couple of times for the visa by plane and visited the UK twice for long period at the time.
So don't tell me about the costs of living in UFA, (a RUSSIAN town of over 1.2 million,)..... as I can see them on my Internet Banking daily!
For your information Crimea was discovered and became a Greek Colony before the Roman Empire and its name was/is "Tavrida"
Меня зовут Яннис, и было приятно встретиться с тобой
For your information Crimea was discovered and became a Greek Colony before the Roman Empire and its name was/is "Tavrida"
For what it is worth the Krim was not discovered by the Greeks it has had civilizations living there before. But the Greek influence is clear to see even today. There are Turkish influences also evident.[/font][/size]
For your information Crimea was discovered and became a Greek Colony before the Roman Empire and its name was/is "Tavrida"For what it is worth the Krim was not discovered by the Greeks it has had civilizations living there before. But the Greek influence is clear to see even today. There are Turkish influences also evident.[/font][/size]
Yevpatoria was founded 2500 B.C. Thats a looooooong time ago. I took an interest in the city history after I came across a dig-site in the open street , i think it was close to pushkin ulitsa.
They explained everything there on a plaque whilst it was behind glass to protect it from the elements. Quite nice to read it all.
Care to guess what the name is of a party boat you can book for 1,5 or 2,5 hour cruises from its docks? It doesn't go anywhere, just takes on passengers and stays out at sea for 1,5 hours (to the other dock) and then back to the first dock in 1 hour more.
It is a fun experience because it goes out to sea really far and you can feel the movement of the sea and you can actually get seasick on it :king:
It is very clear that you do not read carefully my posts and you make statements which are not true and only are created from your tunnel vision & mental block of the fantasy world you are living.
You also don't know how to use the {Quotes so we can know from which post you are you quoting!
My posts are there for anybody to read and see that I never said that I adore Putin and all the other rubbish you are posting.
You also missed or never read my posts, otherwise you should know that I already have a flat over there, pay my utility and other bills with a Direct Debit and have never paid more (maximum) of £30 a month = 2500 Rubles or $39 Dollars[/b], on today prices. On the earlier years it was much cheaper, covering TV, Phone, very fast Internet, electricity and all other services. My mother in Law has been very happy with me as I made her a very modern babushka. I have an electronics engineer from UFA Net, who takes care of he computer, trained babouschka how to use it and have never paid him more than $8 or £6 pounds a visit and keeps the pc in tip top condition.
Baboushka has over $150 disposable pension to buy food for herself and a Debit Card from My Bank to draw money as she needs to, (mostly to help other family members.)!
BTW My Babouschka has travelled to Moscow a couple of times for the visa by plane and visited the UK twice for long period at the time.
So don't tell me about the costs of living in UFA, (a RUSSIAN town of over 1.2 million,)..... as I can see them on my Internet Banking daily!
For your information Crimea was discovered and became a Greek Colony before the Roman Empire and its name was/is "Tavrida"
A long windy post by Wiz, short on context.
Wiz and others have noted using the quote feature would be appreciated by the wider forum.
For what it is worth I give credence to some one who is a native to an occasional visitor. Seasoned has noted both realities and facts. Wiz you just mention your Babushka (God bless her) and the fact that you have visited a while back Russia. Seasoned is mostly referencing Moscow, your Mother in Law lives in Ufa quite a distance away.
Seasoned has noted inherent and fundamental weaknesses in the immediate future of Russia. Others point to propaganda published by RT. Sorry that some are an illusion poorer.
For what it is worth the Krim was not discovered by the Greeks it has had civilizations living there before. But the Greek influence is clear to see even today. There are Turkish influences also evident.
Do you know that RF today has only $485 billion external debt were the US has $23 Trillion Dollars,
Do you know that there are 250 000 Greeks living in Mariupol, just opposite of
Crimea?
Ask a person in any country of the world about the US dollar, he/she knows about it and most likely keeps some dollars.
Ask a person in any country of the world about the US dollar, he/she knows about it and most likely keeps some dollars.
You think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,24660.msg416104.html#msg416104). You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
I think most European's haven't even seen a Dollar in real life, unless they happened to travel to america or did business with Americans.Ask a person in any country of the world about the US dollar, he/she knows about it and most likely keeps some dollars.
You think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,24660.msg416104.html#msg416104). You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Ask a person in any country of the world about the US dollar, he/she knows about it and most likely keeps some dollars.
You think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,24660.msg416104.html#msg416104). You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
You’ve been droning on about the demise of the dollar for years. :coffeeread:
You think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic. You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Manny is not the only one who believes that the dollar soon or later will crash
QuoteYou think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic. You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Do they hoard rubles? Wherever I am stuck in, I got two times richer in rubles by keeping all my savings in dollars and euros. One of my well-to-do Russian friends who mocked me all the time like you did above kept all he had in rubles. He was actually laughing at me in March 2014 before the ruble crashed from 29 to around 70 when I told him he should immediately sell all the rubles he had and buy US dollars. He said I was crazy and Putin would surely sort things out and the ruble would even become stronger. He is not laughing anymore. Manny, with all due respect, do you know what logic is? I studied it at a university for over a year, it is a dead serious subject. Let's apply it every now and then, shall we?:)
A cool piece of satire on the subject: Here is a brief history how the dollar has been "crashing" in Russia since 2006 - coverage by the RF federal tv channels: This shit has actually been going on in Russia since 1991, for 27 freaking years, the ruble has kept crashing and crashing. Now what, you suggest I believe in a miracle and this trend will reverse??? Thank you, I would rather stick to the strategy that has proven to be successful for almost three decades for me.
P.S. For the record, I lived in the US for half a year and in the Czech Republic for five years. Where do you think I learnt English that well, in a Soviet high school?:) Some of you took me for a native and refused to believe I am a Russian.QuoteManny is not the only one who believes that the dollar soon or later will crash
Sooner or later we will all die. Sooner or later the Earth will explode. You are saying the dollar will crash - fine, tell us when. This "sooner or later" narrative needs to be defined. I think the ruble will crash again and we will see 1 dollar sold for 100+ rubles in Russia within the coming two-three years. And I will go to a refined restaurant with a stunning lady to celebrate the event like I did in 2014 when the ruble crashed and I got two times richer all of a sudden. I pay in rubles in refined restaurants of course - after I sell my dollars at the current exchange rate...
As you can tell Manny and Wiz don’t like the USA and keep hoping for the dollar to crash.
I don’t think that would be good for the economy of the rest of the World either but they keep hoping.
I don’t think that would be good for the economy of the rest of the World either but they keep hoping.
Seasoned
If everything is so bad in Russia why don't you do what I did back in 1970, when we had similar money situation in Greece and we had a REAL dictatorship!
I moved to the UK and I am happy for my decision.that I made.
Have you to tried to move to your dream country USA?
I visited the USA around 15 times.... but I was not impressed neither liked their life
style too.
I don’t think that would be good for the economy of the rest of the World either but they keep hoping.
Exactly. When there was a global crisis in 2008 the Russian economy was heavily affected. But that's another story. While they keep hoping the guys like me are getting richer. On the other hand, Manny and Wiz, I assume you keep most of your savings in rubles, right? When the dollar crashes Putin will surely find a way to make the Russian economy victorious over the US one, you will get even richer and will be able to tell the guys like me "See, I told ya all!"???
Seasoned
If everything is so bad in Russia why don't you do what I did back in 1970, when we had similar money situation in Greece and we had a REAL dictatorship!
I moved to the UK and I am happy for my decision.that I made.
Have you to tried to move to your dream country USA?
I visited the USA around 15 times.... but I was not impressed neither liked their life
style too.
I don't really need to move anywhere to do what I am doing now, Internet feeds me. I even have the EU banking accounts, to be on the safe side. On the other hand, I do want to live in Mexico or in the Cyprus for some time, some personal matters are holding me back for now.
I think the ruble will crash again and we will see 1 dollar sold for 100+ rubles in Russia within the coming two-three years.
Also, the only time I've ever handled US Dollars is when I've been in the US on holiday. I have zero dealing with US dollars.
If ever a war breaks out and your precious USA decide to invade the RF.... Putin will attach (support) the Ruble with its Gold reserves.......and your toilet paper money :money: $ dollar, will go bust... as investors will want a secure cover for their Money. Didn't you know that or you think they will invest their money in Derivatives?
QuoteYou think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic. You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Do they hoard rubles? Wherever I am stuck in, I got two times richer in rubles by keeping all my savings in dollars and euros.
As you can tell Manny and Wiz don’t like the USA and keep hoping for the dollar to crash.
If ever a war breaks out and your precious USA decide to invade the RF.... Putin will attach (support) the Ruble with its Gold reserves.......and your toilet paper money :money: $ dollar, will go bust... as investors will want a secure cover for their Money. Didn't you know that or you think they will invest their money in Derivatives?
Not sure what your experiences have been Wiz, but I'll tell you that my "toilet paper money" sure has treated me well! :laugh:
However, you dont seem to have very much positive to say about your country.
Also, the only time I've ever handled US Dollars is when I've been in the US on holiday. I have zero dealing with US dollars.
You have indirect dealing with USD every day ... when you buy oil / petrol - any investments you may have, etc.,
It is amusing how you contribute on this thread with near zero knowledge of day to day life in Russia
For sure, the West is 'punishing' ( or trying to punish ) the Russian economy - have you forgot the reasons why ?
The weakness in the currency is not all down to the 'west' ..check out the continued 'low' position for a nation SO rich in natural resources - where's it all going ? ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita)
Also, the only time I've ever handled US Dollars is when I've been in the US on holiday. I have zero dealing with US dollars.
You have indirect dealing with USD every day ... when you buy oil / petrol - any investments you may have, etc.,
It is amusing how you contribute on this thread with near zero knowledge of day to day life in Russia
For sure, the West is 'punishing' ( or trying to punish ) the Russian economy - have you forgot the reasons why ?
The weakness in the currency is not all down to the 'west' ..check out the continued 'low' position for a nation SO rich in natural resources - where's it all going ? ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita)
What a petty little man you are Moby. You'll do anything for more confrontation and misuse information so you can argue and pollute threads.
It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the world is connected in many ways, including both the finance and oil industry. What disappointingly wasn't obvious to you, is that I was stating, that none of my direct investments or savings are in the US dollar. Even my personal pension investment portfolio is listed in £'s and the investments are largely UK business with which the units/shares are listed. The property I have, both commercial and residential work for me in £'s too.
I have never ever had a discussion with my financial advisor using the term US Dollar. Also, please google direct and indirect before even thinking about a reply.
You would be amusing, if it wasn't for the fact you're a burden to anyone who has to deal with you, online or otherwise. Hence, having an adult conversation with you about absolutely everything is just a waste of my time time.
As you can tell Manny and Wiz don’t like the USA and keep hoping for the dollar to crash.
To be clear, I have no problem at all with the USA. I dislike the constant wars, meddling and interventions perpetrated by your politicians and linked companies that affect the world. Also, I do not *hope* for the dollar to crash, although it probably will at some stage. De-dollarisation is real, demonstrable and done with a purpose: to reduce American influence and thus hegemony.
QuoteYou think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic. You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Do they hoard rubles? Wherever I am stuck in, I got two times richer in rubles by keeping all my savings in dollars and euros.
When I started going to Russia, the Rouble hovered around 55-65 to the £. A while back when the Rouble started devaluing, we had topics here on the subject and there was a point we were getting 100 to the £. Many here piled in knowing it wouldn't last. Many here made an easy 25% in a short space of time as the Rouble regularised again.
Historically the Rouble is quite stable against the Pound. The fundamentals of the Rouble and indeed the Russian economy are sounder than many imagine. Indeed, all the gold they are buying and the dollars they are still dumping is to this end.
However, you dont seem to have very much positive to say about your country.
The Rouble was stable at c.40 to the £ and was falling LONG before Crimea and sanctions
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=RUB&view=10Y (https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=GBP&to=RUB&view=10Y)
If we'd listened to andrewfi's 'advice' we'd all be 'bankrupt' waiting for the famed 'recovery' - six years waiting - so far
What you call "regularised" was a normal and expected after-crash correction.
One thing is very good though - such pre-turbulence times produce a lot of interesting art forms here, I enjoy the paintings by the artist Kopeikin a lot, for instance.
Also, the only time I've ever handled US Dollars is when I've been in the US on holiday. I have zero dealing with US dollars.
You have indirect dealing with USD every day ... when you buy oil / petrol - any investments you may have, etc.,
It is amusing how you contribute on this thread with near zero knowledge of day to day life in Russia
For sure, the West is 'punishing' ( or trying to punish ) the Russian economy - have you forgot the reasons why ?
The weakness in the currency is not all down to the 'west' ..check out the continued 'low' position for a nation SO rich in natural resources - where's it all going ? ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita)
What a petty little man you are Moby. You'll do anything for more confrontation and misuse information so you can argue and pollute threads.
It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the world is connected in many ways, including both the finance and oil industry. What disappointingly wasn't obvious to you, is that I was stating, that none of my direct investments or savings are in the US dollar. Even my personal pension investment portfolio is listed in £'s and the investments are largely UK business with which the units/shares are listed. The property I have, both commercial and residential work for me in £'s too.
I have never ever had a discussion with my financial advisor using the term US Dollar. Also, please google direct and indirect before even thinking about a reply.
You would be amusing, if it wasn't for the fact you're a burden to anyone who has to deal with you, online or otherwise. Hence, having an adult conversation with you about absolutely everything is just a waste of my time time.
Moby,
I am confident that Rosco is not a big fan of mine. No problem on my side. tiphat
But Moby you are belligerent and biased poster. Rarely do you show any intellect or reasoning. At times you have a valid point but your arguementive demeanor kills any give or take on the forum. Sometimes I just want to say in Wiz style STFU!
Please think before replying.
Av
You can read your own graph, yes? It contradicts pretty much everything you said above and supported what I said already. Clean your specs man.
I am confident that Rosco is not a big fan of mine. No problem on my side. tiphat
What you call "regularised" was a normal and expected after-crash correction.
I agree. But in that context I'd regard my chosen word and your preferred phrase as synonyms. I am rather fluent in my own language. :coffeeread:
You can read your own graph, yes? It contradicts pretty much everything you said above and supported what I said already. Clean your specs man.
1/ The graph show the Rouble being 25 % stronger than you suggested... 40 rather than 50
2/ It also demonstrates the value of andrewfi's telling us it was going to recover ... Broken clocks are correct twice a day
I am confident that Rosco is not a big fan of mine. No problem on my side. tiphat
A kind mod is trying to ensure that you won't SEE my response...
NB - I didn't feel the need to 'step in' regarding any possible disagreement you might have had with Rosco
Rosco's responses rarely have ANYTHING that counter what I write and I am always entertained by those who don't GO to Russia telling me I'm 'biased..
I didn't NEED to 'think', thanks ..
QuoteYou think Brits, Australians, Japanese, Dutch, Danes, etc. hoard dollars? :ROFL:
What utter drivel. Are you stuck in 1995? I doubt you have travelled abroad very much.
Educate yourself on this topic. You'll even find a link to one of my articles on the subject in English and Russian.
Do they hoard rubles? Wherever I am stuck in, I got two times richer in rubles by keeping all my savings in dollars and euros.
When I started going to Russia, the Rouble hovered around 55-65 to the £. A while back when the Rouble started devaluing, we had topics here on the subject and there was a point we were getting 100 to the £. Many here piled in knowing it wouldn't last. Many here made an easy 25% in a short space of time as the Rouble regularised again.
Historically the Rouble is quite stable against the Pound. The fundamentals of the Rouble and indeed the Russian economy are sounder than many imagine. Indeed, all the gold they are buying and the dollars they are still dumping is to this end.
However, you dont seem to have very much positive to say about your country.
What you call "regularised" was a normal and expected after-crash correction. The ruble behaves in relation to the pound just like in relation to the dollar or to the euro - or very close to it.
About today's (putin's) Russia and the way it is govenrned or, rather, abused? No, not a lot of good things to say. One thing is very good though - such pre-turbulence times produce a lot of interesting art forms here, I enjoy the paintings by the artist Kopeikin a lot, for instance.
Seasoned, just out of interest what's your background?
You're obviously not stupid but I can see a pattern which suggests political distress. Do you run your own business and have your own property? Are you forming your political opinions based on the struggles of small business or property ownership? Are you paying too much income tax?
I often form opinions which shape my politics, through experience in my own business or property.
QuoteSeasoned, just out of interest what's your background?
You're obviously not stupid but I can see a pattern which suggests political distress. Do you run your own business and have your own property? Are you forming your political opinions based on the struggles of small business or property ownership? Are you paying too much income tax?
I often form opinions which shape my politics, through experience in my own business or property.
Yes, I am having an extreme political distress, should I be having a political bliss?:) In the same boat, well, yes and no. There are no politics in Russia at all in my view, only a deceitful "monarchy/oligopoly", an Orwellian "society" where a very narrow group of people are taking the rest of us for a ride, where basically there is no middle class unless we agree with the official Russian government definition of a middle class person earning around USD400 per month, which is a joke. I am sure living somewhere in the GB/the US and Russia is like living on different planets as far as politics and economics/finances are concerned, so no viable comparison can really be made. For instance, the minimum salary difference between the US and Russia is 10000% (ten thousand percent). Take California, - the minimum salary is USD1840, in Putin's Russia - USD176 (yes, I know it is based on hours in the US).
For me it is not just about my income, it is about justice, about the truth, about my aversion to militarism and the lies related to it. And of course I don't want Russia to end up a pariah and a joke for the rest of the civilized world - I don't want it to turn into another North Korea.
From what I know, through friends of the wife, none of them earn as little as you say, at least not in Moscow or St Pete or any other part for that matter.
Russia has plenty good opportunities so long as you're willing to get out of bed and work hard
I'd say that's a middle class emerging and not on $400/month
I'm not sure if you realise but there are many people on very low incomes in the UK so its not just Russia that has poor people.
Again, it all depends. Even the most poor in the US have a chance to get free food and free medical care (I know for a fact even the homeless in New York can - and they earn like 50-70 bucks per day on top of all that just by begging in the streets - the beggars in the RF are nowadays removed by the police to an unknown destination - I heard they take them to suburbs and just dump them there letting the elements take care of the rest). If one is homeless in Russia he/she may as well consider himself/herself dead because he/she surely will be, pretty soon.
Ok fair enough but we're starting to go round in circles here and I get the feeling you're deliberately ignoring some of my facts and questions?
So what's different in the west, a lot and nothing depending how you look at it.
Again, it all depends. Even the most poor in the US have a chance to get free food and free medical care (I know for a fact even the homeless in New York can - and they earn like 50-70 bucks per day on top of all that just by begging in the streets - the beggars in the RF are nowadays removed by the police to an unknown destination - I heard they take them to suburbs and just dump them there letting the elements take care of the rest). If one is homeless in Russia he/she may as well consider himself/herself dead because he/she surely will be, pretty soon.
Perhaps one of the yanks can chime in here but I can assure you the homeless in the UK don't live like that?
Very romantic of you but plenty people live on the streets in the Uk without food, medical care or shelter and they don't earn 70 bucks a day. There is access to volunteer soup kitchens etc but its a far cry from how you think it works. Ex servicemen on the streets is the worst and its actually very common.
QuoteOk fair enough but we're starting to go round in circles here and I get the feeling you're deliberately ignoring some of my facts and questions?
What facts, exactly? You cherry-pick a relatively successful family you know and on the basis of this you claim that all it takes to succeed in Putin's Russia is to desire this very hard, disregarding all the statistics, even the ones provided by Putin's government. You may as well cherry-pick me, I am not needy at all and I fall under Putin's definition of "middle class", by a large margin. However, this would not bear any serious scrutiny. Besides, I am 100% certain I would achieve more in the US if I had the citizenship. Maybe I should have stayed there when I was younger, but it is another story.
Again, - no cherry-picking please, only the stats.QuoteSo what's different in the west, a lot and nothing depending how you look at it.
All is different but you have chosen to ignore the numbers I provided. I don't mean to drag you from the bubble you enjoy being in, it is up to you. Just remember what I said when the bubble bursts here after the sh't hits the fan - the situation is far from being static here, the situation is getting much worse.
So what is your situation, paint me a picture? A student? A disgruntled factory worker with a family? A political activist in mum and dads basement? A boy from the slums?
QuoteOk fair enough but we're starting to go round in circles here and I get the feeling you're deliberately ignoring some of my facts and questions?
What facts, exactly? You cherry-pick a relatively successful family you know and on the basis of this you claim that all it takes to succeed in Putin's Russia is to desire this very hard, disregarding all the statistics, even the ones provided by Putin's government. You may as well cherry-pick me, I am not needy at all and I fall under Putin's definition of "middle class", by a large margin. However, this would not bear any serious scrutiny. Besides, I am 100% certain I would achieve more in the US if I had the citizenship. Maybe I should have stayed there when I was younger, but it is another story.
Again, - no cherry-picking please, only the stats.QuoteSo what's different in the west, a lot and nothing depending how you look at it.
All is different but you have chosen to ignore the numbers I provided. I don't mean to drag you from the bubble you enjoy being in, it is up to you. Just remember what I said when the bubble bursts here after the sh't hits the fan - the situation is far from being static here, the situation is getting much worse.
So what is your situation, paint me a picture? A student? A disgruntled factory worker with a family? A political activist in mum and dads basement? A boy from the slums?
The folks (not one family) I told you about come from virtually nothing but have managed to graft their way into a comfortable situation, as foreigners essentially. It can happen and it does happen if you're bright enough, willing to work hard and have an open mind. Clearly its no guarantee but I'm beginning to think you're a bit of a socialist at heart?
Cared for buy the state, entitled to the same stuff other people work hard for and spend your time complaining about the government, because they prefer to reward grafters.
It's nothing new but I think you should be honest here.
from a person who has never done a days hard work in his life..
Quotefrom a person who has never done a days hard work in his life..
Where do you think I am getting my cash for a living? From a casino? I paid my bills in restaurants when I went out with you - you think my mother gave me the cash or what? Where did I get the cash to build my site? You know it doesn't come cheap. So, if you want to continue getting yourself ridiculed in public - be my guest, I will oblige.
Get a life! Get a job and stop moaning on about Putin its getting really really boring.. :Zzzzsleep:
but always kept my change..
Quotebut always kept my change..
Oh, I did? Don't remember that. I remember meeting your gf at an airport for you though, settling all sorts of things for you when you needed it, even buying you a hat:). It is really sad you didn't appreciate any of it that came from my good heart, but life goes on.
Not sure how you came to the conclusion I have never worked in my life, I have worked for all my life actually. 9-15 jobs - for 8 years. Now I work as a freelancer but the money doesn't grow on trees for me.
Perhaps this private pissing match can be elsewhere?
Quotebut always kept my change..
Oh, I did? Don't remember that. I remember meeting your gf at an airport for you though, settling all sorts of things for you when you needed it, even buying you a hat:). It is really sad you didn't appreciate any of it that came from my good heart, but life goes on.
I had great fun hanging about with you all those times and getting thrown out of here and there.Going to the sauna with some women of the street and drinking champaign. Going to the snooker hall and getting a few chairs threw at us from a few crazy women..yes it was great fun and I surely enjoyed your company..but it was just an experience for me of the other side of Russian life..I am not interested in living like that, so after a while it got kind of boring..
You have no idea about poverty in the West or the US..trust me its can be much worse than Russia..
I worked for some American engineers whose monthly salary is over 50 thousand dollars per month, for many years on end.
600.000 dollar per year? Thats some salary. I would think more like 0.1% instead.I worked for some American engineers whose monthly salary is over 50 thousand dollars per month, for many years on end.
Ahh the dreams of a man boy! This isn't normal wages in the west I'm afraid Seasoned, in fact its probably top 1%.
The whole thing starts coming together as the jigsaw takes shape.
QuoteI had great fun hanging about with you all those times and getting thrown out of here and there.Going to the sauna with some women of the street and drinking champaign. Going to the snooker hall and getting a few chairs threw at us from a few crazy women..yes it was great fun and I surely enjoyed your company..but it was just an experience for me of the other side of Russian life..I am not interested in living like that, so after a while it got kind of boring..
Well, this is my idea of entertainment, I am still doing all this and more, only downtown now, mainly on the Konushennaya street.:) It still doesn't mean I find the cash to do it under my pillow in the morning or steal it from my relative's wallet when he/she is asleep.:))) I do have to work almost every day. What I really enjoy is diversity.QuoteYou have no idea about poverty in the West or the US..trust me its can be much worse than Russia..
The statistics tell us a different story. Yes, there are many poor people in the West, but it is like comparing apples and oranges. The overall standard of living is way higher in the West. I worked for some American engineers whose monthly salary is over 50 thousand dollars per month, for many years on end. 8 years in an American corporation, from 9 in the morning till 6 in the evening - this was before we met. Maybe I learnt at least something about the West back then, maybe I didn't.
Ahh the dreams of a man boy! This isn't normal wages in the west I'm afraid Seasoned, in fact its probably top 1%.
The whole thing starts coming together as the jigsaw takes shape.
You would not last 1 week in the west if you had to stand on your own two feet.. no free rides unfortunately ..
So when are we going to hear from moby about the big Sochi scandal that has been dominating the RU-news for days now.
QuotePerhaps this private pissing match can be elsewhere?
I didn't start it, I was covering entirely different subjects. But I was supposed to respond since I was asked questions, no? I agree that all this irrelevant to the ongoing discussion.
QuoteAhh the dreams of a man boy! This isn't normal wages in the west I'm afraid Seasoned, in fact its probably top 1%.
The whole thing starts coming together as the jigsaw takes shape.
Yes, those were the top brass ones. One of my Russian friends works as an engineer in the US, his salary is around USD120K per year. So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living. Like I said, I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though.
They pay more than that in Moscow!!.. for the same job..
No, unfortunately this is about sewage, i thought he'd be familiar with the topicSo when are we going to hear from moby about the big Sochi scandal that has been dominating the RU-news for days now.
Tell me Moby did not get bummed!
Get a life! Get a job and stop moaning on about Putin its getting really really boring.. :Zzzzsleep:
Steve,
I have no wish to stand between your past issues with seasoned - but he describes the feelings of many Russians who work hard have travelled
anti-Putin Russohobic world view
One of my Russian friends works as an engineer in the US, his salary is around USD120K per year. So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living.
Quoteanti-Putin Russohobic world view
I have to ask this again. In your view, pro-Putin means pro-Russian and anti-Putin automatically implies anti-Russian???
I'll assist you with your English comprehension once more as you ask politely: I split the two items being "anti-Putin" and "Russophobic" to denote the fact that they are separate and different. If I thought they were synonyms, I would have chosen a word or phrase that I felt encapsulated both sentiments under one umbrella. The fact that I distinctly used two separate terms denotes to the reader that the two concepts, are in fact, different.
One of my Russian friends works as an engineer in the US, his salary is around USD120K per year. So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living.
Don't imagine the US is milk and honey and people routinely earn this. Americans are mostly riddled with debt with minimal disposable income. Also abroad people pay large taxes that many avoid in Russia. £90k ($120k) a year is decent money, less decent if you halve it as you pretty much would under UK taxes. I know many who make this kind of money here and in the US, but most are self-employed and among the more productive in society. It is not the case that some random Yuri leaves a Moscow suburb, lands in the US and is making $120k a year or two later later as routine. This was the foreigners [incorrect] dream/perception about the US in the 70s. We know now it's untrue and like in any society, only the most skilled and productive people can attain these income levels.
The machine translation is shitty, I understood only half of it, at best.
the correct English would require a comma
how exactly does he display his Russophobia?
One of my Russian friends works as an engineer in the US, his salary is around USD120K per year. So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living.
Don't imagine the US is milk and honey and people routinely earn this. Americans are mostly riddled with debt with minimal disposable income. Also abroad people pay large taxes that many avoid in Russia. £90k ($120k) a year is decent money, less decent if you halve it as you pretty much would under UK taxes. I know many who make this kind of money here and in the US, but most are self-employed and among the more productive in society. It is not the case that some random Yuri leaves a Moscow suburb, lands in the US and is making $120k a year or two later later as routine. This was the foreigners [incorrect] dream/perception about the US in the 70s. We know now it's untrue and like in any society, only the most skilled and productive people can attain these income levels.
A software engineer, which is currently highly sought after, can command $120K USD easily enough. Russian and Eastern European engineers have a pretty good reputation, especially for anything considered difficult, or related to mathematics. If there is a second "dot-com" bust, as seems likely, then wages will drop.
However, the question as always is "how much is left over after taxes and rental or house ownership (mortgage) payments"? Living in San Francisco, where an apartment can easily be $4000/month, or in say, Tennessee or Alabama where a nice apartment, possibly even an entire house, is no more than $800/month...? You can see that there be quite a difference in living costs.
Quoteanti-Putin Russohobic world view
I have to ask this again. In your view, pro-Putin means pro-Russian and anti-Putin automatically implies anti-Russian??? So, when Putin raises VAT and the pension age and I as a Russian say "No!" it means I am raising my voice against Russia and all this is good for Russia? I think in this case you are abusing common logic and are even offending my humble intelligence...
So, when Putin raises VAT and the pension age and I as a Russian say "No!" it means I am raising my voice against Russia and all this is good for Russia?
So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living. Like I said, I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though.
Have you noticed huge housing complexes being built all over the city ?? Who is buying these then? They are all selling pretty fast .. Stolen money?? There are literally thousands being built , the government has many special schemes for youngsters married with kids much more so than the UK.. so how come all these people are doing this, and Im talking about thousands of them.. How come they are doing more than you??
The term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us?
The comment, "I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though" reeks of regret, perhaps envy of the friend, and the upbeat tail-end of the quote tells us the writer is resigned to project faux optimism as a defence mechanism about his current lifestyle. He is resigned to the fact life won't improve and for this he blames his government rather than himself. Blaming others is easier than introspection. This reminds me of Yorkshire coal miners still ranting about Thatcher all these years later while their peers moved on, retrained and started businesses.
QuoteHave you noticed huge housing complexes being built all over the city ?? Who is buying these then? They are all selling pretty fast .. Stolen money?? There are literally thousands being built , the government has many special schemes for youngsters married with kids much more so than the UK.. so how come all these people are doing this, and Im talking about thousands of them.. How come they are doing more than you??
The economic situation is worsening even in Saint Pete, 45% of the cars you see in the streets are purchased on credit, it yet remains to be seen if they pay the debt back on time. Only a miracle can save Putin's Russia from the impending economic implosion (colllapse?). You are not aware about this because your indicators are some hair saloons, I monitor the macroeconomic data. You will see what I mean in about 1-2 years from now. Well, 3 years max.
May I ask, since you believe in the Russian economy, I assume you kept all your cash in rubles back in 2014 and suffered a 100%+ loss in hard currency after the ruble crashed? And you still believe in the RF economy and still keep your savings in rubles? I assume you have savings, right?:) I am beginning to enjoy this.QuoteThe term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us?
It just means that it is more difficult for a Russian who came from Russia to reach any heights in the US than for an American who has lived in the US since he was born. A weird try and no bananas of course.
QuoteHave you noticed huge housing complexes being built all over the city ?? Who is buying these then? They are all selling pretty fast .. Stolen money?? There are literally thousands being built , the government has many special schemes for youngsters married with kids much more so than the UK.. so how come all these people are doing this, and Im talking about thousands of them.. How come they are doing more than you??
The economic situation is worsening even in Saint Pete, 45% of the cars you see in the streets are purchased on credit, it yet remains to be seen if they pay the debt back on time. Only a miracle can save Putin's Russia from the impending economic implosion (colllapse?). You are not aware about this because your indicators are some hair saloons, I monitor the macroeconomic data. You will see what I mean in about 1-2 years from now. Well, 3 years max.
May I ask, since you believe in the Russian economy, I assume you kept all your cash in rubles back in 2014 and suffered a 100%+ loss in hard currency after the ruble crashed? And you still believe in the RF economy and still keep your savings in rubles? I assume you have savings, right?:) I am beginning to enjoy this.QuoteThe term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us?
It just means that it is more difficult for a Russian who came from Russia to reach any heights in the US than for an American who has lived in the US since he was born. A weird try and no bananas of course.QuoteThe comment, "I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though" reeks of regret, perhaps envy of the friend, and the upbeat tail-end of the quote tells us the writer is resigned to project faux optimism as a defence mechanism about his current lifestyle. He is resigned to the fact life won't improve and for this he blames his government rather than himself. Blaming others is easier than introspection. This reminds me of Yorkshire coal miners still ranting about Thatcher all these years later while their peers moved on, retrained and started businesses.
No envy, just stating the facts. I have said it many times - there are dirt poor Russians who adore Putin and rather rich Russians who hate him and vice versa. So, my current financial situation is irrelevant for this discussion. Is it so difficult to understand this?
QuoteHave you noticed huge housing complexes being built all over the city ?? Who is buying these then? They are all selling pretty fast .. Stolen money?? There are literally thousands being built , the government has many special schemes for youngsters married with kids much more so than the UK.. so how come all these people are doing this, and Im talking about thousands of them.. How come they are doing more than you??
The economic situation is worsening even in Saint Pete, 45% of the cars you see in the streets are purchased on credit, it yet remains to be seen if they pay the debt back on time. Only a miracle can save Putin's Russia from the impending economic implosion (colllapse?). You are not aware about this because your indicators are some hair saloons, I monitor the macroeconomic data. You will see what I mean in about 1-2 years from now. Well, 3 years max.
May I ask, since you believe in the Russian economy, I assume you kept all your cash in rubles back in 2014 and suffered a 100%+ loss in hard currency after the ruble crashed? And you still believe in the RF economy and still keep your savings in rubles? I assume you have savings, right?:) I am beginning to enjoy this.QuoteThe term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us?
It just means that it is more difficult for a Russian who came from Russia to reach any heights in the US than for an American who has lived in the US since he was born. A weird try and no bananas of course.QuoteThe comment, "I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though" reeks of regret, perhaps envy of the friend, and the upbeat tail-end of the quote tells us the writer is resigned to project faux optimism as a defence mechanism about his current lifestyle. He is resigned to the fact life won't improve and for this he blames his government rather than himself. Blaming others is easier than introspection. This reminds me of Yorkshire coal miners still ranting about Thatcher all these years later while their peers moved on, retrained and started businesses.
No envy, just stating the facts. I have said it many times - there are dirt poor Russians who adore Putin and rather rich Russians who hate him and vice versa. So, my current financial situation is irrelevant for this discussion. Is it so difficult to understand this?
Of course saving are in Roubles!! Get paid in $ then transfer to Roubles.. I'm not worried about currency crashes I have more important things to think about like working to pay bills, eat and enjoy life..
The Russian economy is going to crash in 3 years? You have been saying that in expat.ru for about 10 years..
And I guess your planning to become a crypto millionaire now or are this forecasts not going as planned..? its comical reading your thread about this subject.. YOUR not going to get rich there also sat at home all day..
Quoteanti-Putin Russohobic world view
I have to ask this again. In your view, pro-Putin means pro-Russian and anti-Putin automatically implies anti-Russian??? So, when Putin raises VAT and the pension age and I as a Russian say "No!" it means I am raising my voice against Russia and all this is good for Russia? I think in this case you are abusing common logic and are even offending my humble intelligence...
QuoteOf course saving are in Roubles!! Get paid in $ then transfer to Roubles.. I'm not worried about currency crashes I have more important things to think about like working to pay bills, eat and enjoy life..
The Russian economy is going to crash in 3 years? You have been saying that in expat.ru for about 10 years..
I was saying it on expat.ru for three years before the ruble crashed in 2014. Those who listened made some handsome money, those who laughed at me now regret it. They always do, when the dust settles.:)
You're not debating the VAT rise and the pension age as such, you're demonising Putin, comparing Russia to Somalia, telling us the middle class earn $400 a month and there are no politics in Russia, only a deceitful oligopoly.....your words not mine.
So with all your grande wisdom why are you not sat in a nice apartment with a nice motor outside, some cash in the bank and regularly travelling??
How come your not working for some big financial institution they pay lots of money to guys like you with all that wisdom..
So, when Putin raises VAT and the pension age and I as a Russian say "No!" it means I am raising my voice against Russia and all this is good for Russia?
Many countries raise VAT and the pension age to balance the books. A rising pension age is indicative people are living longer by the way. Russia is no different in that it needs to balance the books. Do you know why? Because their tax receipts are so poor; too much black economy and salary under the table. But VAT taxes ultimately the end consumer so is the best way in such a country sloshing with stolen and black cash. Now if your old mate Steve is to be believed, you do not pay too many taxes. Ergo, you are part of the problem in Russia. You'll cry the dreadful Putin government doesn't do this or that, but dont want to pay so much into the system you are critical of to pay for it. Want pensions bigger? Pay more VAT. Personally in Russia, I'd go more for alcohol and tobacco duty as well and kill two birds with one stone. But they've been doing that in recent years too. In a country with a big black economy you must tax visible consumption: VAT and duties on petrol, tobacco and alcohol.So, even a Russian can move there and have a great living. Like I said, I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though.
This is an interesting quote in light of Rosco's comments.
The term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us? :chuckle:
The comment, "I had a similar chance when I was young, maybe I should have grabbed it. I am still enjoying life though" reeks of regret, perhaps envy of the friend, and the upbeat tail-end of the quote tells us the writer is resigned to project faux optimism as a defence mechanism about his current lifestyle. He is resigned to the fact life won't improve and for this he blames his government rather than himself. Blaming others is easier than introspection. This reminds me of Yorkshire coal miners still ranting about Thatcher all these years later while their peers moved on, retrained and started businesses.
Bloody hell, see what happens when you spend over a decade married to a Russian psychologist? :chuckle:
QuoteHave you noticed huge housing complexes being built all over the city ?? Who is buying these then? They are all selling pretty fast .. Stolen money?? There are literally thousands being built , the government has many special schemes for youngsters married with kids much more so than the UK.. so how come all these people are doing this, and Im talking about thousands of them.. How come they are doing more than you??
The economic situation is worsening even in Saint Pete, 45% of the cars you see in the streets are purchased on credit, it yet remains to be seen if they pay the debt back on time. Only a miracle can save Putin's Russia from the impending economic implosion (colllapse?). You are not aware about this because your indicators are some hair saloons, I monitor the macroeconomic data. You will see what I mean in about 1-2 years from now. Well, 3 years max.
May I ask, since you believe in the Russian economy, I assume you kept all your cash in rubles back in 2014 and suffered a 100%+ loss in hard currency after the ruble crashed? And you still believe in the RF economy and still keep your savings in rubles? I assume you have savings, right?:) I am beginning to enjoy this.QuoteThe term "even a Russian" implies that the Russian battles against greater than average adversity. Like some kind of downtrodden sub-species who is pre-defined to be unfortunate. Not true, but a classic self hate term I'd suggest. Do we have a Russophobic Russian among us?
It just means that it is more difficult for a Russian who came from Russia to reach any heights in the US than for an American who has lived in the US since he was born. A weird try and no bananas of course.
Of course saving are in Roubles!! Get paid in $ then transfer to Roubles.. I'm not worried about currency crashes I have more important things to think about like working to pay bills, eat and enjoy life..
The Russian economy is going to crash in 3 years? You have been saying that in expat.ru for about 10 years.. :laugh:
Every economy is going to crash some time and so what!
USD400 - that's not my words either, that's the RF government agency. Yes, the Russian economy is no way different than the economy of many African countries - selling mineral resources, getting hard currency in, end of the story. And no, there are no politics and no real elections in Putin's Russia. My candidate wasn't even allowed to participate in the last presidential elections, so I sabotaged them. No politician currently represents my interests in their Duma.
It seems my guessing of who you are, to hold such strong opinions against your government was pretty damn close. A mid 40's bloke who tasted a year or so in the US as a youngster, upset he doesn't get what others have, openly gets pissed up with louts like a student and a political agenda, most likely mapped out in mummy and daddy's home, which you should have moved out of 2 decades ago.
You're almost a stereotype.
QuoteYou're not debating the VAT rise and the pension age as such, you're demonising Putin, comparing Russia to Somalia, telling us the middle class earn $400 a month and there are no politics in Russia, only a deceitful oligopoly.....your words not mine.
USD400 - that's not my words either, that's the RF government agency. Yes, the Russian economy is no way different than the economy of many African countries - selling mineral resources, getting hard currency in, end of the story. And no, there are no politics and no real elections in Putin's Russia. My candidate wasn't even allowed to participate in the last presidential elections, so I sabotaged them. No politician currently represents my interests in their Duma.QuoteSo with all your grande wisdom why are you not sat in a nice apartment with a nice motor outside, some cash in the bank and regularly travelling??
How come your not working for some big financial institution they pay lots of money to guys like you with all that wisdom..
Well, you are still not a millionaire... We both are lagging behind the schedule.:) I am doing ok though, there are days I can make usd400+ per day actually.
It seems my guessing of who you are, to hold such strong opinions against your government was pretty damn close. A mid 40's bloke who tasted a year or so in the US as a youngster, upset he doesn't get what others have, openly gets pissed up with louts like a student and a political agenda, most likely mapped out in mummy and daddy's home, which you should have moved out of 2 decades ago.
You're almost a stereotype.
We've got the Russian version of Owen Jones here. :coffeeread:
Maybe I don't know English well enough, I have said it many times that my financial and whatever situation is completely irrelevant for this discussion. If it suits you, imagine I live in a basement and my salary is 150 dollars, I don't mind.
Or maybe some of you are deaf, don't know. There are many rich Russians who have left the country already because they share my views. And there are many dirt-poor proles who adore Putin and vice versa. Is it such a difficult fact that denies comprehension?
Wiz,
Perhaps you'll never read my pointing out Manny's howlers and continue to live in painful ignorance ..
You can get out to Cyprus for under a £100 - I'm flying back for £95 to Manchester and London''s only £60
Perhaps you should try Cyprus and understand what nonsense you've been posting ?
Our new neighbours in CY are flying to Georgia / Armenia and and an 'ol Uni friend - now living in Italy - is just back from doing the same trip and LOVED it
CLUEBAT: stop whinging and either get yourself a Russian Visa and pay your M-i-L a visit or take a break .. you clearly need one ;)
I'm not letting you off the hook because I don't like scroungers and benefits junkies, I'm just pulling you up on your facts and the agenda.
You speak about your country with so little respect whilst looking up to messes in the west. Somethings not linear here and its been sniffed out.
Seasoned I would wonder if he wasn't caught in the middle between the old folks that established themselves during the Soviet times, and the younger ones that came up during the Putin era?
Maybe I don't know English well enough, I have said it many times that my financial and whatever situation is completely irrelevant for this discussion. If it suits you, imagine I live in a basement and my salary is 150 dollars, I don't mind.
Or maybe some of you are deaf, don't know. There are many rich Russians who have left the country already because they share my views. And there are many dirt-poor proles who adore Putin and vice versa. Is it such a difficult fact that denies comprehension?
I'm not letting you off the hook because I don't like scroungers and benefits junkies, I'm just pulling you up on your facts and the agenda.
You speak about your country with so little respect whilst looking up to messes in the west. Somethings not linear here and its been sniffed out.
It is very embarrassing to hear somebody like "Seasoned", to speak so badly and negative against his own birth country. :o
You speak about your country with so little respect whilst looking up to messes in the west. Somethings not linear here and its been sniffed out.
Seasoned speaks in a negative way about the current political situation in Russia. I suspect his view points make some posters uncomfortable. I think all of us can admire the culture, artistic achievements of Russia through the centuries. The art of Russia, whether it be literature, music or fine art is simply amazing. [/font][/size]
QuoteSeasoned I would wonder if he wasn't caught in the middle between the old folks that established themselves during the Soviet times, and the younger ones that came up during the Putin era?
I don't think I understand the question. I am not caught between anybody.:) Actually, I am probably the most "unhooked" and "uncaught" person in the whole country. I do wonder why so many putinists here are interested about my personal situation. I find all of this irrelevant for what we are discussing. After all, I don't care how much any of you are making or where you live or what car you drive or how big your penis is or whether you have one at all. Why? Because I don't think it is very polite to ask all this, to put it mildly, and secondly, it doesn't really matter for what we are trying to discuss.
You builded a Dating site with the purpose to pimp for Russian women! Well done ol chum!
If you're points focused on what could be better then fair enough. Sadly, you've bashed your country to bits and demonised your government in every single aspect whilst fantasising about some unrealistic western utopia. Sorry but what you think simply isn't true and holding a candle to fairytales wont change shit.
There's little point debating further because you're not prepared to keep an open mind about even the untruths you've been pulled up on regarding western living. I have nothing against people with different political views, even radicals like yourself. I just feel sorry for you because your vision is built on fantasy and lies.
Anyway, good luck with the dating site and remember to take your dirty dishes back to the kitchen before mum comes in to clean your room.
It is very embarrassing to hear somebody like "Seasoned", to speak so badly and negative against his own birth country. :o
Wiz, I am quite negative about the former President of the United and rather suspect of the current President. It does not mean one speaks badly of the United States. There are things that The Netherlands has done in the past which were wrong. The same can be said of France, England and the rest of Western Europe. It is called democracy. Not quite perfect but preferable to a dictatorship. Get over it!
Seasoned speaks in a negative way about the current political situation in Russia. I suspect his view points make some posters uncomfortable. I think all of us can admire the culture, artistic achievements of Russia through the centuries. The art of Russia, whether it be literature, music or fine art is simply amazing.
I'll wrap things up at my end too Seasoned.
I've read every word you wrote and it's obvious you want political change in Russia, many people do but you're still in the extreme minority. I agree, life is far from perfect and there are some things in the west that Russia could adopt or learn from. Equally, there are many things in Russia that you can be proud about and we in the west admire.
If you're points focused on what could be better then fair enough. Sadly, you've bashed your country to bits and demonised your government in every single aspect whilst fantasising about some unrealistic western utopia. Sorry but what you think simply isn't true and holding a candle to fairytales wont change shit.
There's little point debating further because you're not prepared to keep an open mind about even the untruths you've been pulled up on regarding western living. I have nothing against people with different political views, even radicals like yourself. I just feel sorry for you because your vision is built on fantasy and lies. If you lived in the UK, I'd have you down as a Corbyn supporting remainer, who refuses to debate fact because it hurts their feelings. This is why Moby has a soft spot for you.
Anyway, good luck with the dating site and remember to take your dirty dishes back to the kitchen before mum comes in to clean your room.
:thumbsup:
You speak about your country with so little respect whilst looking up to messes in the west. Somethings not linear here and its been sniffed out.
Why would you respect a country where the system is designed to crush you?
Here are a few issues we have encountered within 5 short years.
1. Theft of deposits by (multiple) banks.
2. Employers not honouring work contracts.
3. Theft of court awarded compensation.
4. Theft of payments to be made to school kids for doing work at school for maintenance over the school holidays.
5. Until recently Judges could not be prosecuted for corruption. That has now been changed - result - several judges committed suicide.
The regions are run like little fiefdoms where theft and corruption are tolerated so long as they don't exceed certain levels.
The only difference between the regions and Moscow and St Pete's is there is an expectation that people can earn a little more.
Wiz,
Meow your favorite cat here; two long posts short on actual content. I only hope in the real world you are not a such a wind bag.
Anyways to answer your question, no I have not lived in dictatorship (well excluding my parents as a teenager).
Since you can not read there is no reason to share my name with you.
It is reassuring that you can do copy and paste, but did you run out of American Flags?
Av
While we are talking, another crash of the Russian financial system has begun! I was expecting it a bit later.:) USD is already 65 rubles! Euro - 75. The crash continues. Eat it, putinists, without bread or salt, eat it raw and swallow without chewing. :biggrin: :popcorn: :dh:
I don't think any of those apply to you do you?
QuoteI don't think any of those apply to you do you?
How many of those apply to you currently?:) I don't own a car because I don't need it, taxi service is dirt cheap here. I would surely need a car in the US, so I would buy it there - I owned a car for four years, then it simply became a useless burden. But since I work in Internet I don't even need the taxi that often. Yes, I admire the US, I have worked for many US companies, I have some US sponsors even now. I might go there eventually, who knows. Are you enjoying the crash? It is just the beginning... Wait for 1-2 years. Where is your beloved Putin? Why is he not helping??? I am reading yet another severe sanctions package is being drafted. Putin!!! Help!!! Lol...
And it is rather lame, shifting the conversation from the economic situation in Russia due to Putin's policies to my personal situation. Just rest assured I am doing ok, this should suffice. Again, I don't care if any of you guys are rich and poor, I think it is utterly irrelevant on a forum. I know where to find rich and poor people IRL.
Yawn. Typical putinistic drivel. ;D A nice map, it should tell you why the rubble crashed in 2014 and will crash again, among other things. But it won't because you are being illogical. I want to be a friend of the US, not its antagonist. God bless America! I have nothing to add to what I have already said here. Have a good day, everyone. :popcorn:
QuoteIf you're points focused on what could be better then fair enough. Sadly, you've bashed your country to bits and demonised your government in every single aspect whilst fantasising about some unrealistic western utopia. Sorry but what you think simply isn't true and holding a candle to fairytales wont change shit.
There's little point debating further because you're not prepared to keep an open mind about even the untruths you've been pulled up on regarding western living. I have nothing against people with different political views, even radicals like yourself. I just feel sorry for you because your vision is built on fantasy and lies.
My vision is built on facts. I have nothing against my country, though it has internationally unrecognized borders, so I am bit at a loss now what my country is even geographically. My views are not radical at all, it is the putinists and their admirers/apologists like you who portray them as radical. What is exactly radical in desiring peace with the neighbors, internationally recognized borders, developing economy, science and medicine, decent pensions, a respected place in the international community rather than being a third world pariah everyone points a finger at, in desiring decent standards of living and no lies on the government level? I don't see anything radical in such a view. But the pure, undiluted, soaked in blood evil you fully represent strives to label normal human wishes and desires as something radical. You are a radical, not me...QuoteAnyway, good luck with the dating site and remember to take your dirty dishes back to the kitchen before mum comes in to clean your room.
I assume you threw your mother to a home for the elderly people or let her struggle all alone? My point is - there is no need to drag mothers/sisters into all this, even if you have lost the plot entirely. Or I will ask you about the size of your penis again. It is another distinct trait of putinists - they keep mumbling about mothers, defecations, penises. I am not sure where it comes from, my assumption is that it is the lack of education or social adaptation skills - it takes a real effort to fail in the West and many of Putin admirers from the West seem to be just this - walking Western failures who are bitter about this.
Maybe I don't know English well enough, I have said it many times that my financial and whatever situation is completely irrelevant for this discussion. If it suits you, imagine I live in a basement and my salary is 150 dollars, I don't mind.
Or maybe some of you are deaf, don't know. There are many rich Russians who have left the country already because they share my views. And there are many dirt-poor proles who adore Putin and vice versa. Is it such a difficult fact that denies comprehension?
I'm not letting you off the hook because I don't like scroungers and benefits junkies, I'm just pulling you up on your facts and the agenda.
You speak about your country with so little respect whilst looking up to messes in the west. Somethings not linear here and its been sniffed out.
It is very embarrassing to hear somebody like "Seasoned", to speak so badly and negative against his own birth country. :o
Who was that Russian Political activist who was not allowed to take part in the election for the Presidency, because he has criminal record, which the Russian Constitution does not permit it?
Was he the same person who has been financed from the "Open society" of George Soros and few other NGO's that Putin or the Russian Government has stop them to function in Russia?
Having spent some time reading all these posts from various members and the Replies of Seasoned (Andrey) I will make a guess that, he is 40+ years old, he is not married, he lives with his parents who support him financially as it appears he has not any steady income, or pay any income taxes apart from VAT on consumer goods.
He dreams to become a $ Millionaire with not any special education, otherwise the American scouts and Talent spotters, would have already introduced him to an American big business and he would have been living in the USA by now.
Andrey, just for your information, my older son back in 2003 he graduated with a phd diploma in Computer engineering and software, from the Loughborough University, and a week later after the graduation he came to my office and told he is moving to USA, Los Angeles, to work for a company for $150 000 salary a year and he had $10 000 paid, already, in his account to cover all moving expenses. Now he is in San Francisco paid $ 300 000. Bought his own house, no mortgage anymore etc.
It is my view that anybody who wants to succeed in life, has to move his ass wherever he thinks can achieve his aims. BTW he has never complained about the politicians in this country or the US. He simply moved his ass as I did myself back in the 70's.
He could have made it here too, like my young one with a Master Degree in Economics, who works in the City of London but he decided to to go to the US, my great loss. :(
Finally may I remind you of the John F. Kennedy’s inaugural address that inspired children and adults to see the importance of civic action and public service. His historic words, “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,” challenged every American to contribute in some way to the public good.
So what have you done about Russia, what have you offered, apart from running your country and its government down?
You builded a Dating site with the purpose to pimp for Russian women! Well done ol chum!
PS: Building a dating site like yours..... technically is not difficult and I have build several commercial ones.
I thought Putin had done a pretty good job with the Russian economy prior to the annexation of Crimea.
Sounds like you better move your ass to the USA so that you can be near to your grandchildren! :laugh:
Sounds like you better move your ass to the USA so that you can be near to your grandchildren! :laugh:
Sounds like you better move your ass to the USA so that you can be near to your grandchildren! :laugh:
I have been with them in Loss Angeles.... at Manhattan Beach .... and I liked it
but I was told from my ex.... San Franscisco.......not as good.....
I liked Florida near Tampa..... and Fort Lauterdale but not Miami or Orlando.
Don't worry I have another 2 here 1 hour drive and see them as often as possible. now they are in the South of France.....Watch this and get the picture.......
;D tiphat
Right,
So to see which country is more prevalent in women wanting to escape , i clicked all the profiles and refreshed this page 3 times with women on the right.
Kiev,
Kiev,
Odessa,
Odessa,
Zaporozhe,
Kiev again
Odessa again
Moscow (a first! Russia)
Kiev,
Kiev,
kharkov
kiev
Kherson.
Now thats a statistic, most beautiful women are from Ukraine, or in Russia people simply do not want to get out that bad.
Well, she was never on this website on the right :-\
That includes your wife too because when she “escaped” Crimea was still a part of Ukraine. :laugh:
I thought Putin had done a pretty good job with the Russian economy prior to theannexationreunification of Crimea.
Who would think that the man who leads the largest country in the World would risk it all over such a small piece of land?
The western sanctions were very predictable (without saying who’s right or wrong one way or the other) but perhaps the amount of damage they could do was not so predictable.
What’s especially ironic is that the RF already had sufficient military control of Sevastopol and hence Crimea with the navy base being leased there.
I've read every word you wrote and it's obvious you want political change in Russia, many people do but you're still in the extreme minority.
I tend to doubt that Trump will acknowledge this takeover. But it is possible that his administration will acknowledge the current status quo. I suspect you will see the Eastern edge of Ukraine to return to Ukraine control. [/font][/size]
Relations with the West can be brought back to life. Our partners are coming to see that it is better to be friends
He is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.Who would think that the man who leads the largest country in the World would risk it all over such a small piece of land?
Nothing was risked. The will of the people was followed; we call this democracy.
The western sanctions were very predictable (without saying who’s right or wrong one way or the other) but perhaps the amount of damage they could do was not so predictable.
All entirely expected and predictable. The Russian economy will come out of sanctions (or not) stronger and more importantly: more self sufficient.
What’s especially ironic is that the RF already had sufficient military control of Sevastopol and hence Crimea with the navy base being leased there.
Do you read anything here at all? Crimea was protected and secured due to the US funded overthrow in Kiev. Putin blocked the US wet dream of Russia being evicted from Sevastopol and Russian war ships being stationed there. The new puppet government would have cancelled Russia's leases there and tried to evict them. If you knew *anything* at all about Russia and/or had read Putin's speeches on the subject, you'd know that was never going to happen and Crimea would reunify at any price.
Trump has now sensibly recognised that this will never change. The US will soon "recognise" Crimea is Russian and the world will follow. Although this is only of symbolic importance in respect of peaceful international relations. Whatever Uncle Sam thinks either way will never change the ownership of Crimea.
It was a clear invasion albeit with little bloodshed. The US has no need for military bases on the Krim. Yes there are wild conspiracy theories but look even at the map the Wiz posted.There was no invasion there, not ever. The only thing that was there was a breakaway from Ukraine to independency because of the political unstability of the time.
It was a clear invasion albeit with little bloodshed. The US has no need for military bases on the Krim. Yes there are wild conspiracy theories but look even at the map the Wiz posted.There was no invasion there, not ever. The only thing that was there was a breakaway from Ukraine to independency because of the political unstability of the time.
Then a referendum was held to remain independent (which would keep all options in future open) or join Russia right now.
Crimea voted the second option en-masse, the outcome was never in question.. not even before it all started, not by the Crimeans, not by the Russians and certainly not by the world.
Interesting to note: Russia welcomed observers to this referendums from all sides, except the West already saw the end-result and denied sending observers otherwise they would have to acknowledge it was all fair and square and no foul play.
As to the Sevastopol military base, depriving Russia of it would be enough, even if the US didn't want it.
Sevastopol is the -only- RU-military base that has clear water all-year-long, the others freeze over in winter.
I suspect you will see the Eastern edge of Ukraine to return to Ukraine control.
I thought Putin had done a pretty good job with the Russian economy prior to theannexationreunification of Crimea.
He is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.Who would think that the man who leads the largest country in the World would risk it all over such a small piece of land?
Nothing was risked. The will of the people was followed; we call this democracy.The western sanctions were very predictable (without saying who’s right or wrong one way or the other) but perhaps the amount of damage they could do was not so predictable.
All entirely expected and predictable. The Russian economy will come out of sanctions (or not) stronger and more importantly: more self sufficient.What’s especially ironic is that the RF already had sufficient military control of Sevastopol and hence Crimea with the navy base being leased there.
Do you read anything here at all? Crimea was protected and secured due to the US funded overthrow in Kiev. Putin blocked the US wet dream of Russia being evicted from Sevastopol and Russian war ships being stationed there. The new puppet government would have cancelled Russia's leases there and tried to evict them. If you knew *anything* at all about Russia and/or had read Putin's speeches on the subject, you'd know that was never going to happen and Crimea would reunify at any price.
Trump has now sensibly recognised that this will never change. The US will soon "recognise" Crimea is Russian and the world will follow. Although this is only of symbolic importance in respect of peaceful international relations. Whatever Uncle Sam thinks either way will never change the ownership of Crimea.
Remember, relatives of Kerry and others in US politics became suddenly in the employ of state utilities. We assume their command of the Ukrainian or Russian language wasn't part of their qualifications.
He is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.
Yep, you probably watched mostly western & ukrainian news, whereas I saw it happen through skype of my MIL & western news.
Lets just agree we see the realities in a different light (view point)
Sounds like you better move your ass to the USA so that you can be near to your grandchildren! :laugh:
Wiz despises America with all those non-Protestant bankers. I suspect he thinks there is no difference between the West Coast of America and that of the East Coast of the Mediterranean.
For what it is worth a while back I asked why he would not see his grandchildren in America, Wiz never replied. Admittedly an air flight there is some 10 plus hours and costs with Thomas Cook some +/- £500,00.
Can you or anybody else tell me a country that there is no corruption?
Even a monkey could do relatively well, given all those trillions of oil-gas cash.
One U.S. dollar will buy you nearly 925,000 gallons of gasoline
Just like Chavez and Maduro? Gas there is still ultra cheap.
QuoteJust like Chavez and Maduro? Gas there is still ultra cheap.
Chavez was doing relatively well. Oil prices tanked and Maduro is now having problems. Our economies have a similar structure, so I am expecting the same problems...
QuoteJust like Chavez and Maduro? Gas there is still ultra cheap.
Chavez was doing relatively well. Oil prices tanked and Maduro is now having problems. Our economies have a similar structure... The best Venezuelan song, in my view, written with the blood of its fighting for freedom citizens who fell victims to the regime of the bus driver Maduro - I know Spanish enough to understand like 70% of the song (I think letting a bus driver run a country is even a worse idea than letting a colonel run a country):
No there are substantial differences between Venezuela and Russia. Chavez believed in a central controlled communistic economy that never addressed fundamental flaws in Venezuela society. Chavez was a dictator in the classic South American style. Though he window dressed everything in a different fashion to his predecessors.
Putin has allowed to some degree the economy to float and not with standing some foreign adventures has tried (albeit in rather clumsy and in an ineffective way) to move parts of the Russian economy to a more controlled capitalistic base. The reality is Venezuela a relatively small country with great mineral riches (oil) has failed at just about everything.
Both countries for different reasons are suffering from sanctions. But Russia has done a better job at managing them. I do believe the Russian economy is due for some rough times but I think Russia economy can better manage them.
A good helicopter ride by Pinochet would cure him!
Putin has created about the same centrally controlled economy - if we look at big businesses. And the political system is under a 100% central control - something that wasn't done even in Venezuela. Smaller businesses are allowed to exist, to a certain extent, but they "don't make the weather" as we say here. Of course it is not a 100% similarity, there are differences. The trend and the pattern are about the same though.
Gold is traded in far greater volume than physically exists now. Indeed most gold is traded by paper and not physically moved. These paper trades in obligations and rights like CDO's are what have driven banking growth over the last decade or so.QuoteHe is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.
Who will care about gold soon? No one, cryptocurrencies will be used instead - portable (more so than gold), limited supply, can be used as the means of payment, etc. Much better than gold, which, in essence, is nothing but a shiny metal, a legacy of the previous centuries.
Dollar dumping? He is just talking about that. The Americans with their newly proposed sanctions to cut the leading Russian state banks off the global dollar system are certainly looking forward to helping Vovochka. Lol. While crashing the useless ruble like there is no tomorrow again...
Manny, as to what you say regarding the Crimea and those "republics", you seem to just toe the official party line. I can give you links to hundreds of Youtube videos filmed during these events by eye-witnesses that fully disprove your claims, but what's the use? You have Youtube and you seem to have brains. Conclusion? You are lying intentionally... Don't know what your agenda is but there is one, I guess.
Here is a cool song, it is in Russian, about "New world order":
While we are talking, another crash of the Russian financial system has begun! I was expecting it a bit later.:) USD is already 65 rubles! Euro - 75. The crash continues. Eat it, putinists, without bread or salt, eat it raw and swallow without chewing. :biggrin: :popcorn: :dh:
Meanwhile, the crash on the Putin's "market" continues, one dollar is 66 rubles already... Euro - over 76... And counting... Now, the oil time - drop, honey, drop like you are freaking dead. Make all those creepy putinists gasp in anguish and pain, they didn't learn their lesson in 2014. Please. :bow: :8) Congratulations on the new sanctions, by the way.
QuoteI thought Putin had done a pretty good job with the Russian economy prior to the annexation of Crimea.
He just got plain lucky with high oil prices. Even a monkey could do relatively well, given all those trillions of oil-gas cash. Besides, he hasn't accomplished a whole lot, Moscow sucks in 80% of the RF cash, so of course it has been a relatively well-to-do area. The rest of the country - so-so. Thousands of enterprises and hospitals have been closed during the years of his rule. He missed a truly rare chance to diversify the economy. You let a colonel run a country - and look what happens...
All entirely expected and predictable. The Russian economy will come out of sanctions (or not) stronger and more importantly: more self sufficient.
If you look at the rate against the Euro, on a chart from 2005 to Aug 2018, you can see short highs of 91 and lows of 33 with an average during that time of 47.6889.
Quite sad watching a Russian celebrate currency fluctuations, giving hope to impending doom.
Certainly I would not be cheering for the collapse of any countries currency.
It was a clear invasion albeit with little bloodshed. The US has no need for military bases on the Krim. Yes there are wild conspiracy theories but look even at the map the Wiz posted.There was no invasion there, not ever. The only thing that was there was a breakaway from Ukraine to independency because of the political unstability of the time.
Then a referendum was held to remain independent (which would keep all options in future open) or join Russia right now.
Crimea voted the second option en-masse, the outcome was never in question.. not even before it all started, not by the Crimeans, not by the Russians and certainly not by the world.
Interesting to note: Russia welcomed observers to this referendums from all sides, except the West already saw the end-result and denied sending observers otherwise they would have to acknowledge it was all fair and square and no foul play.
As to the Sevastopol military base, depriving Russia of it would be enough, even if the US didn't want it.
Sevastopol is the -only- RU-military base that has clear water all-year-long, the others freeze over in winter.
Seasoned
Who will care about gold soon? No one, cryptocurrencies will be used instead
North stream 2 pipeline has got all licences and by passed Denmark. Once in full operations, supplies to Europe will be over 40% and the American LNG gas companies will continue going bust
QuoteJust like Chavez and Maduro? Gas there is still ultra cheap.
Chavez was doing relatively well. Oil prices tanked and Maduro is now having problems. Our economies have a similar structure, so I am expecting the same problems...
No there are substantial differences between Venezuela and Russia. Chavez believed in a central controlled communistic economy that never addressed fundamental flaws in Venezuela society. Chavez was a dictator in the classic South American style. Though he window dressed everything in a different fashion to his predecessors.
Putin has allowed to some degree the economy to float and not with standing some foreign adventures has tried (albeit in rather clumsy and in an ineffective way) to move parts of the Russian economy to a more controlled capitalistic base. The reality is Venezuela a relatively small country with great mineral riches (oil) has failed at just about everything.
Both countries for different reasons are suffering from sanctions. But Russia has done a better job at managing them. I do believe the Russian economy is due for some rough times but I think Russia economy can better manage them. For the average citizen Venezuela is in the pits and does not like it will any time soon get out from the hole it has mostly by the policies of Chavez.
NB: I can not help the helpless who fail to understand irony or satire.
QuoteIf you look at the rate against the Euro, on a chart from 2005 to Aug 2018, you can see short highs of 91 and lows of 33 with an average during that time of 47.6889.
You are STILL not getting it. WOW. I am really impressed, I won't waste my time explaining abcs here though, have some more pressing things to accomplish today.QuoteQuite sad watching a Russian celebrate currency fluctuations, giving hope to impending doom.
Yes, go cry your putinist crocodile tears, the time has come...QuoteCertainly I would not be cheering for the collapse of any countries currency.
For all I care, I feel like a German in Germany in the beginning of 1945. They had various emotions and feelings back then...
Gold is traded in far greater volume than physically exists now. Indeed most gold is traded by paper and not physically moved. These paper trades in obligations and rights like CDO's are what have driven banking growth over the last decade or so.QuoteHe is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.
Who will care about gold soon? No one, cryptocurrencies will be used instead - portable (more so than gold), limited supply, can be used as the means of payment, etc. Much better than gold, which, in essence, is nothing but a shiny metal, a legacy of the previous centuries.
Dollar dumping? He is just talking about that. The Americans with their newly proposed sanctions to cut the leading Russian state banks off the global dollar system are certainly looking forward to helping Vovochka. Lol. While crashing the useless ruble like there is no tomorrow again...
Manny, as to what you say regarding the Crimea and those "republics", you seem to just toe the official party line. I can give you links to hundreds of Youtube videos filmed during these events by eye-witnesses that fully disprove your claims, but what's the use? You have Youtube and you seem to have brains. Conclusion? You are lying intentionally... Don't know what your agenda is but there is one, I guess.
Here is a cool song, it is in Russian, about "New world order":
Nice edit and then think a bit more and edit again.
I have visions of you jumping about your bedroom ranting and raving, whilst mummy tells you to keep it down.
Another internet clown buying into internet currencies, believing that somehow it'll be more valuable/stable than gold.
Well done, with a small exception that Banking growth was in Debt and not in assets value. For example "Deutsche Bank" has open liabilities of 75 $ trillion Dollars, when te German GDP is only 3+ Trillion Euros. And there are many other banks, in the EU and USA too with plenty of Debts in their books, presented as assets.
I"Deutsche Bank" has not gone bust because the German Government and Mrs Merkel, keeps it afloat with secret subsidies, against all banking rules of the EU.
tiphat
QuoteJust like Chavez and Maduro? Gas there is still ultra cheap.
Chavez was doing relatively well. Oil prices tanked and Maduro is now having problems. Our economies have a similar structure, so I am expecting the same problems...
No there are substantial differences between Venezuela and Russia. Chavez believed in a central controlled communistic economy that never addressed fundamental flaws in Venezuela society. Chavez was a dictator in the classic South American style. Though he window dressed everything in a different fashion to his predecessors.
Putin has allowed to some degree the economy to float and not with standing some foreign adventures has tried (albeit in rather clumsy and in an ineffective way) to move parts of the Russian economy to a more controlled capitalistic base. The reality is Venezuela a relatively small country with great mineral riches (oil) has failed at just about everything.
Both countries for different reasons are suffering from sanctions. But Russia has done a better job at managing them. I do believe the Russian economy is due for some rough times but I think Russia economy can better manage them. For the average citizen Venezuela is in the pits and does not like it will any time soon get out from the hole it has mostly by the policies of Chavez.
NB: I can not help the helpless who fail to understand irony or satire.
Of course the USA and the CIA had nothing to do with the problems there.....supporting the Elite and to steal all its natural resources.
HA HA HA read another book and not the one provided by the CIA and your corrupt fake Media. Another Nation destroyed, financially, not with guns from the great Democratic (Mafia) country........USA!
QuoteNice edit and then think a bit more and edit again.
I have visions of you jumping about your bedroom ranting and raving, whilst mummy tells you to keep it down.
Another internet clown buying into internet currencies, believing that somehow it'll be more valuable/stable than gold.
I have a vision of you staring at the collapse I predicted just two days ago in disbelief and not sure how to react. You want to discuss my mother again? So, you threw your mother to a house for the elderly people at a certain point or she struggled all alone, no one to help her when she needed it?
My mother lives with my father in their own house, whilst I live in mine with my wife. I left home at 18 to go study and started work soon after my course was complete.
QuoteMy mother lives with my father in their own house, whilst I live in mine with my wife. I left home at 18 to go study and started work soon after my course was complete.
So, when your parents are not capable of looking after themselves anymore, you plan to live with them or you will throw your parents to die to a house for the elderly people? I am asking because I actually live with my grandmother, she is 94, bed-ridden and I need to take care of her daily.
One has to be a real idiot to make comments about mothers and so forth, but for the record to the admins - I am just playing along and didn't start this sh't, this putinist did. They always do that. I am surprised he hasn't raised the issue of defecations and/or gays yet, they do it all the time right after they are done discussing someone else's mothers.
Now, back to the ongoing devastating economic crash in Putin's Russia - Aeroflot shares have nosedived today, by a huge margin. It looks like the Black August has commenced in earnest for Putin's Russia. Some serious wind is already hitting the house of cards. Even I wasn't expecting this to be that brutal and that early, but cannot say I am dissatisfied with the developments. God bless America!
and think everything western is amazing
Quoteand think everything western is amazing
I have never said that. In the legal parlance, you have just committed an act of defamation.
Of course the USA and the CIA had nothing to do with the problems there.....supporting the Elite and to steal all its natural resources.
HA HA HA read another book and not the one provided by the CIA and your corrupt fake Media. Another Nation destroyed, financially, not with guns from the great Democratic (Mafia) country........USA!
Change the record Aviel!
:P
All entirely expected and predictable. The Russian economy will come out of sanctions (or not) stronger and more importantly: more self sufficient.
A good point and something the UK needs to follow with. After Brexit, he need to be less reliant on imports and start growing and making our own stuff again. Of course some things simply wont work because of cost but the basics like agriculture and heavy industry makes us stronger in the long term. Once Brussels settles down, we'd probably end up selling them more stuff and be better off.
I'm sure it was Youngs Seafood in Annan who would get their prawns sent out to Asia for peeling then sent back here. Scottish raspberries getting squeezed because of tariffs so the EU could grow the Polish raspberry economy, the fishing industry with quotas etc. It's socialist suicide.
Bring it home, take the short term pain and prosper in the medium. Remainers or people like Seasoned can't see this because they're globalists. They would sell their own people out so they can't read in the Guardian how morality superior they are to successful nations.
While we are talking, another crash of the Russian financial system has begun! I was expecting it a bit later.:) USD is already 65 rubles! Euro - 75. The crash continues. Eat it, putinists, without bread or salt, eat it raw and swallow without chewing. :biggrin: :popcorn: :dh:
Quite sad watching a Russian celebrate currency fluctuations, giving hope to impending doom.
If you look at the rate against the Euro, on a chart from 2005 to Aug 2018, you can see short highs of 91 and lows of 33 with an average during that time of 47.6889.
Today its 75 therefore hell cometh according to the resident Russian Russophobe.
Does anyone else see some unfortunate similarities between Seasoned and Moby?
QuoteHe is still doing a decent job. Observe the long term planning in the gold buying and the dollar dumping.
Who will care about gold soon? No one, cryptocurrencies will be used instead -
Much better than gold, which, in essence, is nothing but a shiny metal, a legacy of the previous centuries.
Don't know what your agenda is but there is one, I guess.
I actually live with my grandmother, she is 94, bed-ridden and I need to take care of her daily.
Cryptocurrencies will develop, but wont be mainstream in my lifetime. Probably not yours.
If true, there we have it. Classic keyboard warrior "bloke in a basement". No experience of the real world. No experience business, western society, international travel as we know it or even many elements of his own country. Remember how the middle class in Russia "dont exist"? Anyone who has been knows they do or else who is buying all the Range Rovers? :chuckle:
This bloke and Moby could be a tag team. But they ignore each other................
The seasoned bloke seems to be a plant.
Russians are buying Range Rovers (I am sure there are many brand new Range Rovers even in Somalia and Nigeria, there are quite many brand new Range Rovers in Ukraine, for that matter - hardly an indicator of anything substantial at all).
people like you going around and mumbling - no, what is this shit, some emails, it is bad for my eyes, send me a normal, decent fax instead of all this electronic crap
Really? Well I have two of them with zero credit and you travel on the bus or in gypsy cabs. But the ability to buy them indicates nothing substantial at all. But you are the cryptocurrency guy who is going to show us how gold is worth nothing and that you have it all worked out.
My seven figure (£ Sterling) turnover from online sales means I dont grasp the internet. Sonny, I had the internet years before you lot had scratch cards to access dial up you bought from kiosks.
QuoteReally? Well I have two of them with zero credit and you travel on the bus or in gypsy cabs. But the ability to buy them indicates nothing substantial at all. But you are the cryptocurrency guy who is going to show us how gold is worth nothing and that you have it all worked out.
Ok, you have two cars with zero credit, I am proud for you, a great achievement, lol. Now, can we get back to Magnit and Aeroflot?
Son, you are an amusing keyboard warrior with lots of leftist unworkable ideas and ideals that haven't amounted to a hill of beans.
Many of the people you are debating here can buy and sell you dozens of times over. You should be engaging with and learning things from such people. Instead you are wasting the opportunity to engage with some would be friends and business colleagues by trolling and spouting leftist silliness.
I'm beginning to see why Steve fired you.
Ok, then I am surprised you don't see much value in cryptos. What happened to your instincts? Getting older? I am not even saying that if you bought, say, in July 2017 and sold in December 2017 your profits could be 100000%+ - look at the charts and see what you missed. My news to you is - the game is not over yet, it is just the beginning...
As a matter of fact, for blokes like you with no business and responsibilities
One hack or bad headline halves or zeroes your investment overnight.
If anyone knows a UK fund that spreads the risk across a basket of them?
Of course the USA and the CIA had nothing to do with the problems there.....supporting the Elite and to steal all its natural resources.
HA HA HA read another book and not the one provided by the CIA and your corrupt fake Media. Another Nation destroyed, financially, not with guns from the great Democratic (Mafia) country........USA!
Change the record Aviel!
:P
Let me see here. WE stop buying Venezuelan oil so now you are saying we are stealing their natural resources because we no longer want them at any price. ??? I am sure there is a logic here but pardon me for not seeing it.
When you want to talk about a failed state here is something close. I do not even want to get off the plane in Venezuela because of the lack of law and order.
This is another country that tried to destroy the USA and then self destructed over it own money mismanagement. They did not reinvest in their oil fields and now they are not putting out so much. They do not make anything else except trouble to export. The world does not need their oil any longer. It is heavy and hard to process and the US was one of only a few countries that would buy it at any price.
First they tried to get the Chinese to help them. The Chinese were at first excited to help and have a foot hold in the Americas. But after seeing how much a mess Venezuela was they left and I think they no longer have any interest in their oil. Then the Russian came to help them. I believe this was mainly because of the Ukraine that they were looking to have something closer to the USA. I have not heard any more about this so I guess they quietly are pulling back also.
Son, you are an amusing keyboard warrior with lots of leftist unworkable ideas and ideals that haven't amounted to a hill of beans. Many of the people you are debating here can buy and sell you dozens of times over. You should be engaging with and learning things from such people. Instead you are wasting the opportunity to engage with some would be friends and business colleagues by trolling and spouting leftist silliness. Why not stow your ego in a box and learn something from those a tad more successful and experienced at life than you.
Of course the USA and the CIA had nothing to do with the problems there.....supporting the Elite and to steal all its natural resources.
HA HA HA read another book and not the one provided by the CIA and your corrupt fake Media. Another Nation destroyed, financially, not with guns from the great Democratic (Mafia) country........USA!
Change the record Aviel!
:P
Let me see here. WE stop buying Venezuelan oil so now you are saying we are stealing their natural resources because we no longer want them at any price. ??? I am sure there is a logic here but pardon me for not seeing it.
When you want to talk about a failed state here is something close. I do not even want to get off the plane in Venezuela because of the lack of law and order.
This is another country that tried to destroy the USA and then self destructed over it own money mismanagement. They did not reinvest in their oil fields and now they are not putting out so much. They do not make anything else except trouble to export. The world does not need their oil any longer. It is heavy and hard to process and the US was one of only a few countries that would buy it at any price.
First they tried to get the Chinese to help them. The Chinese were at first excited to help and have a foot hold in the Americas. But after seeing how much a mess Venezuela was they left and I think they no longer have any interest in their oil. Then the Russian came to help them. I believe this was mainly because of the Ukraine that they were looking to have something closer to the USA. I have not heard any more about this so I guess they quietly are pulling back also.
TEXAN
Back home late and I am tired to reply but meanwhile it's a good idea if you read a couple of articles about Venezuela and understand more ...
Clinton Emails Reveal Direct US Sabotage Of Venezuela (https://www.globalresearch.ca/clinton-emails-reveal-direct-us-sabotage-of-venezuela/5551877)
Also
Learn about Chavez and Maduro too:
Chávez was a legendary figure in Venezuela who transformed the country’s political and economic landscape (https://www.vox.com/world/2017/9/19/16189742/venezuela-maduro-dictator-chavez-collapse)
BTW if you have time, here is a list of articles about Venezuela. Pick and choose to read:
Articles about Venezuela (http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=venezouela&x=11&y=7)
;D tiphat
QuoteThe seasoned bloke seems to be a plant.
Moby is busy wrestling a pesty crocodile and saving his gal with the fantastic looking popka. I'm sure once he comes up for air, he'll be back to give you all something to discuss again.
Lol. Too good to be true, eh? How come Steve knows me very well? You cannot put 2 and 2 together even regarding such simple stuff, then I am supposed to listen to your views about macroeconomics and geopolitics? ;D
Seasoned is taking a lot of heat, not sure he should be getting all of it
In the what it is worth department Andrewfi started a thread "Who is Buying in Krypto?" It was interesting to read the replies and thinking.
This bloke and Moby could be a tag team. But they ignore each other................
This is the bit I find fishy, not one exchange yet cut from the same cloth. The seasoned bloke seems to be a plant.
Moby is busy wrestling a pesty crocodile and saving his gal with the fantastic looking popka. I'm sure once he comes up for air, he'll be back to give you all something to discuss again.
So im in sheremetyevo now. I see 3 languages instead of 2 now. Chinese script everywhere. It would seem the number of chinese on domestic flights makes it worthwhile
That damned Croc was so scared of SC that it jumped out of the pool a few secs later ... ))
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/942/42997627905_7400d530ee_c.jpg)
From what I see there are lots of guys here married to Russian women?
So what about having a recruiting drive? Your wife MUST have friends in Russia ? So how about getting some Real locals to join in the conversation who have a real view on life? Its a pretty easy task to do. Im onto it already..
There are also no British, Belgian, Bulgarian, Estonian or Danish ones of these any more (or never were).
You can eat a lot of fish with your eyes..... but your stomach is still empty! ....
or .... You can look but can't touch!
She has the "approved" rubber stamp for birth certificate, marriage certificate, and similar document translations.
From what I see there are lots of guys here married to Russian women?
So what about having a recruiting drive? Your wife MUST have friends in Russia ? So how about getting some Real locals to join in the conversation who have a real view on life? Its a pretty easy task to do. Im onto it already..
There's an interesting thing. We tried this. Wifey has lots of pals who started in this sphere. This very forum has begat several marriages. Via her efforts quite a few women are married (and she is *really* proud that she helped make proper families like with our Markje).
BUT
When women reach out via their own friends and link them here this is what we get in feedback:
- Its all English and not enough Russian language
- No Russian wives posting in Russian
- The men seem mostly American, but we are thinking about European men
- Too much political arguing
That has been the reasons my wife's friends haven't posted here.
We cant change that, our demographic is what it is.
QuoteShe has the "approved" rubber stamp for birth certificate, marriage certificate, and similar document translations.
A translator doesn't need to have a rubber stamp (which costs 300 rubles to make). When a translation is notarized all is needed is a translator's passport, diploma, translation and signature. If a document is not approved by a state notary any such stamps are useless. I know this because I have worked as a translator for 20 years.:) This is inside Russian though, things may be quite different in London.
They still need to pay in USD when they go on vacation to Turkey, Spain, etc...
As we know, all communist and ex-communist countries have a bureaucracy that is obsessed with rubber bloody stamps.
Nobody uses dollars in Spain.
Nobody.
The only winners in today's situation inside Russia are Putin's friends and those who service their vital interests, it is a very narrow group of people, probably like 2-3% of all the Russians.
Then where is the middle class (that you think dont exist) getting all their cash to buy things like Range Rovers, new apartments and remonting dachas? You only need look around the roads in any town or any decent restaurant to see people with disposable income.
The only winners in today's situation inside Russia are Putin's friends and those who service their vital interests, it is a very narrow group of people, probably like 2-3% of all the Russians.
Then where is the middle class (that you think dont exist) getting all their cash to buy things like Range Rovers, new apartments and remonting dachas? You only need look around the roads in any town or any decent restaurant to see people with disposable income.
So, Seasoned, what you are describing is a very significant increase in the personal wealth of Russian people to the degree that it impacts upon your quality of life. Hardly a tale of poverty is it? Except for the bloke living in his mother's basement who is not able to take part in the economic activity of harder working peers.
What I read smacks of a severe case of envy without the willingness to do something about the writer's poverty-stricken situation.
Why not just go out and do some work. Eventually you'll be able to buy one of those newly built apartments.
They still need to pay in USD when they go on vacation to Turkey, Spain, etc...
Nobody uses dollars in Spain.
Nobody.
Im not sure this thread is becoming really boring now.. like a broken record player or a jack Russel bitting away.. non stop..
There is nothing about life in Russia as the thread suggests just anti Putin government shit...
And as Peter Jones would say "For that reason Im out"
In Turkey, in Deniz Bank (a subsidiary bank of Sberbank of Russia) without conversion, the ruble exchange for Turkish lira. At ATMs accept cards Maestro and Mastercard.
Guys, remember that 'seasoned' is an envious ne'er do well who does not know a lot outside of his immediate experience.
Over the years people with some experience of the world who have spent time in places getting rapidly more wealthy will have come across this type over and over again. They often seem to turn up as 'fixers' and go-betweens who want to take a slice of the pie without paying for a share.
Take anything this type of person says with a big pinch of salt.
Only those who have no facts that speak in their favor resort to lame personal attacks like this one on a forum. You have lost the debate and you know it, fellow... Besides, you don't even know my income, so basically you are shooting at thin air with these lame personal attacks. I find such a "throwing-the-toys-from-the-pram", mud-slinging behavior rather childish.
Adverts promoting hookers are basically on every corner, at every bus stop here in the city. I don't mind them every now and then, but this is too much even for me.:)
1) https://varlamov.ru/1869299.html
2) https://varlamov.ru/1489757.html
All that said, Moscow and Saint Pete aren't really indicators for Russia as a whole, the situation in many regions is much worse.
Hookers dont advertise where there is no demand though, so we see here capitalism.
Деточка, на форуме никому не интересны твои душевные изыскания!
50% of the cars in Russia are bought on credit - https://www.rbc.ru/finances/20/10/2016/580889fd9a79476e9376f5c2
Many Russians are trying to live on credit, millions of them will never be able to repay the growing debt. The imminent result - further implosion of the already crippled economy.
Sounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
A regular, "well-to-do" Russian Ivan with the salary of, say, 50K rubles had 1724 dollars per month in 2014. Today, with the same salary, he has only 746 dollars. Wonder how difficult it is to understand that it is very bad for this "well-to-do" Ivan if he fancies foreign resorts, foreign cars, even foreign implants for his teeth... Even a pack of Winston cigs cost 50 rubles in 2014, it costs 125 rubles today (smoking is bad, but at least 30% of grown-up Ivans do smoke). My personal groceries check has almost doubled in rubles during the last four years.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
True, the average income in America is different though and they are not paid in Russian rubles.
Not entirely certain what the reality is today in Russia, but today most debt (mortgages and loans) in Ukraine are tied to either the $ or €. Before this was the case in Russia.
They still need to pay in USD when they go on vacation to Turkey, Spain, etc...
Not entirely certain what the reality is today in Russia, but today most debt (mortgages and loans) in Ukraine are tied to either the $ or €. Before this was the case in Russia.
Ukraine is a failed state. Not the same.
Dollars have minimal impact on this if the Ivan buys Russian produce and doesn't buy things traded through dollars.
The rest of what you see is inflation, although some is caused by aggressive US sanctions against Russia. So instead of slavishly parroting "god bless America" here like a DC drone, you may wish to look to the root of the problem and stop worshipping it.
It isn't 1992 any more.
Look at Tez Tours or one of the other major tour operators for Turkey. All priced in Roubles. The Charter flights are operated by Russian and Turkish companies. Roubles are freely exchangeable to Turkish Lira.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
True, the average income in America is different though and they are not paid in Russian rubles. And the US dollar, unlike the Russian ruble, doesn't seem to be in a hurry to crash, despite all those predictions here...
Seasoned, It would be high time you learn how to use the quote function of RUA, everyone else does. It is more than just annoying reading your posts, it is bordering on insulting to the other posters that you quote. You can not claim to be a senior citizen or dyslexic.
That’s a reply with nothing but waffle, for no other reason other than to reply. Seasoned, you’re a bitter man with envy issues.
It’s still not clear whether your aim is to smear Russia or you actually believe the stuff you post.
Seasoned, It would be high time you learn how to use the quote function of RUA, everyone else does. It is more than just annoying reading your posts, it is bordering on insulting to the other posters that you quote. You can not claim to be a senior citizen or dyslexic.
My feeling simply said learn how to quote properly or only share your thoughts and opinions.
Guys, remember that 'seasoned' is an envious ne'er do well who does not know a lot outside of his immediate experience.
. . . . .
Take anything this type of person says with a big pinch of salt.
Yes, many Americans are quite poor compared to their peers in Europe.
Guys, remember that 'seasoned' is an envious ne'er do well who does not know a lot outside of his immediate experience.
. . . . .
Take anything this type of person says with a big pinch of salt.
Must...not...say...what I'm thinking....Must...not...say...what I'm thinking....
Guys, remember that 'seasoned' is an envious ne'er do well who does not know a lot outside of his immediate experience.
. . . . .
Take anything this type of person says with a big pinch of salt.
Must...not...say...what I'm thinking....Must...not...say...what I'm thinking....Yes, many Americans are quite poor compared to their peers in Europe.
Europe can actually a pretty great place to be if you're average. Nothing wrong with being average, of course...so many people are. But not great if you're above average, which explains why, for example, Swedes that leave Sweden behind are ~50% more productive than their native kin who remain at home.
B/B
That’s a reply with nothing but waffle, for no other reason other than to reply. Seasoned, you’re a bitter man with envy issues.
It’s still not clear whether your aim is to smear Russia or you actually believe the stuff you post.
There is basically no Russian produce.
They still need to pay in USD when they go on vacation to Turkey, Spain, etc...
There is basically no Russian produce.
Do you kneel with a tear in your eye clutching your chest with one hand when the American national anthem comes on?
The current Russian national anthem is strange, by the way - the Soviet music, some weird words. The music was changed to the Soviet one after Putin came to power.
I happen to rather like it.
I happen to rather like it.
The Song is great - but choosing to carry on with the old Soviet one is making a statement that Moscow still hankers for the old times
Speculation.
I happen to rather like it.
The Song is great - but choosing to carry on with the old Soviet one is making a statement that Moscow still hankers for the old times
Speculation.
Sounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
I could actually ride a bike to work, but traffic is heavy and getting run over is a big possibility. Nobody bikes where I live. Saving a small amount of money on gas and car maintenance is not worth it if it puts my life in danger. :'(
And riding a bike in a rain storm is NOT a good thing. :scared0005:
Poor Seasoned does not understand how credit works. Why does he expect that people taking out finance to buy expensive things will not be able to repay? Always some people will default, perhaps you are one such? But finance companies do not lend money in the expectation that clients will default.
This is envy, again, envy for those who can have the nice things that he can not. He justifies to himself that the people he sees around him will not make payments and that he, using his rusty old bicycle will have the last laugh.
Seasoned, do you not think that we richer people (compared to you) do not notice the effects of exchange rates on imported goods? Of course, we do but the truth is that businesses use financial instruments to reduce the effects of F/X variations so that they do not need to pass on increases, or decreases, in prices immediately to buyers. How poor are you though that you can't afford to smoke your preferred imported brands of ciggies? And which are they that are not manufactured in Russia anyway?
Envy, envy, envy, truth be told, you poor people do not spend much in the way of imported goods anyway. You buy local cheap foodstuffs, buy cheap clothing from wherever is cheapest, perhaps from Humana for brand name 'bargains' and pay rent for your bedroom.
Poor Seasoned does not understand how credit works. Why does he expect that people taking out finance to buy expensive things will not be able to repay? Always some people will default, perhaps you are one such? But finance companies do not lend money in the expectation that clients will default.
This is envy, again, envy for those who can have the nice things that he can not. He justifies to himself that the people he sees around him will not make payments and that he, using his rusty old bicycle will have the last laugh.
Seasoned, do you not think that we richer people (compared to you) do not notice the effects of exchange rates on imported goods? Of course, we do but the truth is that businesses use financial instruments to reduce the effects of F/X variations so that they do not need to pass on increases, or decreases, in prices immediately to buyers. How poor are you though that you can't afford to smoke your preferred imported brands of ciggies? And which are they that are not manufactured in Russia anyway?
Envy, envy, envy, truth be told, you poor people do not spend much in the way of imported goods anyway. You buy local cheap foodstuffs, buy cheap clothing from wherever is cheapest, perhaps from Humana for brand name 'bargains' and pay rent for your bedroom.
The whole piece is basically one big defamation based on assumptions, hearsay, senile imagination and twisted logic. Besides, it is as pompous as the arse of a wild Indian monkey. I have never said I cannot afford those cigs, all I said was the price grew from 50 to 125 rubles during the last 2-3 years. Can't you read English? I can afford a brand new car even without a credit, I just don't need one. Can you read this? Let me run it by you again - I. Don't. Need. A. Car.
And once again, you don't know my income so there is no need to believe I am a poor person. And even if I am one, my penis may still be longer and in a better shape than yours! It is a joke, of course, - I have just tried to use your twisted logic of assumed supremacy. It doesn't work for a debate in Internet this way, dear fellow.
Let's try to make you understand one simple fact (again, you don't seem to be getting it) - not only dirt poor Russians dislike putinism, there are many well-to-do and even rich Russians who strongly dislike the current lay of the land here in Russia. For instance, the businessman Potapenko - Or the young economist Zhukovsky: (hope you don't just have a lot of money like you claim you do but also you have education and know Russian (it would be logical to assume this on a Russia-related forum) and can understand what they are saying - I know five foreign languages, for instance).
Seasoned, I enjoy your commentary, please keep it coming. Those who attack your character do it as a method of deflection.
If what you are saying was so untrue they should be able to prove it with facts.
Your car, your living situation etc. has nothing to do with anything except some people like trying to make others feel bad.
Poor Seasoned does not understand how credit works. Why does he expect that people taking out finance to buy expensive things will not be able to repay? Always some people will default, perhaps you are one such? But finance companies do not lend money in the expectation that clients will default.
This is envy, again, envy for those who can have the nice things that he can not. He justifies to himself that the people he sees around him will not make payments and that he, using his rusty old bicycle will have the last laugh.
Seasoned, do you not think that we richer people (compared to you) do not notice the effects of exchange rates on imported goods? Of course, we do but the truth is that businesses use financial instruments to reduce the effects of F/X variations so that they do not need to pass on increases, or decreases, in prices immediately to buyers. How poor are you though that you can't afford to smoke your preferred imported brands of ciggies? And which are they that are not manufactured in Russia anyway?
Envy, envy, envy, truth be told, you poor people do not spend much in the way of imported goods anyway. You buy local cheap foodstuffs, buy cheap clothing from wherever is cheapest, perhaps from Humana for brand name 'bargains' and pay rent for your bedroom.
The whole piece is basically one big defamation based on assumptions, hearsay, senile imagination and twisted logic. Besides, it is as pompous as the arse of a wild Indian monkey. I have never said I cannot afford those cigs, all I said was the price grew from 50 to 125 rubles during the last 2-3 years. Can't you read English? I can afford a brand new car even without a credit, I just don't need one. Can you read this? Let me run it by you again - I. Don't. Need. A. Car.
And once again, you don't know my income so there is no need to believe I am a poor person. And even if I am one, my penis may still be longer and in a better shape than yours! It is a joke, of course, - I have just tried to use your twisted logic of assumed supremacy. It doesn't work for a debate in Internet this way, dear fellow.
Let's try to make you understand one simple fact (again, you don't seem to be getting it) - not only dirt poor Russians dislike putinism, there are many well-to-do and even rich Russians who strongly dislike the current lay of the land here in Russia. For instance, the businessman Potapenko - Or the young economist Zhukovsky: (hope you don't just have a lot of money like you claim you do but also you have education and know Russian (it would be logical to assume this on a Russia-related forum) and can understand what they are saying - I know five foreign languages, for instance).
Seasoned, I enjoy your commentary, please keep it coming. Those who attack your character do it as a method of deflection.
If what you are saying was so untrue they should be able to prove it with facts.
Your car, your living situation etc. has nothing to do with anything except some people like trying to make others feel bad.
Seasoned is a representative of a real group of people with the attributes I have described. Those who have travelled, lived, and kept eyes open will have come across these people. Others, less observant, will not have noticed them even as they interacted with them.
To deny their presence is to do as Soviet Russia did in denying the presence of HIV. All that happens when we deny reality is to store trouble for the future.
The bloke, and others like him, are old fashioned they liked things as they used to be; happier with underemployment while others, usually the state, provided for their needs.
Unlike some, seasoned is probably not an out and out thief or con artist, fleecing foreigners and other easy targets but I am sure that he is one of those who believe that such people deserve the treatment they get.
We can see from his posts that he does not understand the world in which he finds himself and it is certain that he suffers for his comprehension deficit and that feeds his envy as he finds himself unable to enjoy the benefits accruing to his more flexible, harder working, peers.
As I already noted, he is a representative of a type and group of people, a group that the government has to consider and deal with. They are also easily persuaded to align with malign influencers offering 'easy' solutions. He has many peers in Ukraine where millions believed the lies of coup organisers and programmers with the terribly unfortunate outcome we see today.
I guess that this guy is in his early 40's, he is of that generation who suffered the most when the Soviet Union shut up shop and all the existing social contracts were broken. From what I have seen in more than one country there's not much to be done for people like this. They will die out, but will not change.
Others, less observant, will not have noticed them even as they interacted with them.
Morning Campers
You are up all night or early starters in the morning.
My trusted secret agent (my wife), arrived yesterday and while she was in Ufa, everywhere she went has taken photos for prices etc.
I had no time to download them into my computer, so when I do, go through them and verify the prices then I will let you know.
I need more time to slowly debrief her and accumulate first hand information and when necessary I will let you know.
;D
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Same almost anywhere in Europe. My gas and electricity only costs me over 20,000 pyb a month (no water or other utilities in there).Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Our VAT in the UK went up 2.5% (after an earlier reduction due t a bad economy) in 2010, In 2011 it went up another 2.5% to 20%. Yours is 18% with 10% on some items.
Many of the things you describe are not just Russia.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
We have bought two more apartments since you last saw me Correction My family or friends have bought two more apartments NOT you..you have your hard cash in Swiss Franks in a private bank in Switzerland..
person who doesn't even exist anymore, Jack the lad has been around for a VERY long time and a leopard never changes its spots..
Just like the latest big idea to make money without actually doing any work .. the cryptocurrency thread in Expat.ru the one that has gone dead..they are all tired of the garbage there also..
Just waiting for the "Mother of all pumps" ... :laugh:
Some people just don't like doing a days work...let alone a bloody week!!
Many of the things you describe are not just Russia. They are pretty standard across Europe.
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
In my particular case, utility costs have dropped over the recent several years. Natural Gas, electricity and water supply costs have all dropped from ten years ago. I locked into the lower gas and electricity supplier contracts since deregulation has been in place. It also helped that turning off the 24/7 air compressors and installing smart power strips also contributed to the decreased power bills. Water usage costs went down because one person left the household. Also replaced the A/C and furnace with more efficient systems. :money:
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
In my particular case, utility costs have dropped over the recent several years. Natural Gas, electricity and water supply costs have all dropped from ten years ago. I locked into the lower gas and electricity supplier contracts since deregulation has been in place. It also helped that turning off the 24/7 air compressors and installing smart power strips also contributed to the decreased power bills. Water usage costs went down because one person left the household. Also replaced the A/C and furnace with more efficient systems. :money:
So, the putinists have lied to us and it is not the same everywhere in the West? How are your gas (aka petrol) prices? Have they been growing non-stop like here in Putin's Russia, one of the global leaders of oil production?:))
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
In my particular case, utility costs have dropped over the recent several years. Natural Gas, electricity and water supply costs have all dropped from ten years ago. I locked into the lower gas and electricity supplier contracts since deregulation has been in place. It also helped that turning off the 24/7 air compressors and installing smart power strips also contributed to the decreased power bills. Water usage costs went down because one person left the household. Also replaced the A/C and furnace with more efficient systems. :money:
So, the putinists have lied to us and it is not the same everywhere in the West? How are your gas (aka petrol) prices? Have they been growing non-stop like here in Putin's Russia, one of the global leaders of oil production?:))
The gas (petrol) prices in my area have been about $2.67 USD per gallon (or roughly 70 cents per liter). Several years ago when crude prices went above $100 USD per barrel, the gas costs approached $4 a gallon. Some people were feeling impacted by the price. I only fill up my tank about every two months, so even at $10 a gallon that would still not induce me to bike to work. ;D You can buy a lifetime supply of Venezuelan gas with just one dollar. If only I had an underground storage tank. :biggrin:
I read a news article on the local paper that said that the USA could exceed the gas production supply of Saudi Arabia and Russia (not combined) in the near future.
Our monthly utility bills have gone up over the last year or so, just as many others in Russia JUST like many others all over the world..
My parents rates have gone right up and they are bloody pensioners..many in England have a choice "heat or eat" of course numb nuts will not understand this cos he's clueless about what goes on in real life..
But I have to pay my utilities not my parents! I live in the real world like many others who have to work and pay bills..I would hardly have an argument if I lived with mom and dad who paid the utilities and all I did was go on and on and on and on and on and on and on for over a bloody decade.. :laugh:
In my particular case, utility costs have dropped over the recent several years. Natural Gas, electricity and water supply costs have all dropped from ten years ago. I locked into the lower gas and electricity supplier contracts since deregulation has been in place. It also helped that turning off the 24/7 air compressors and installing smart power strips also contributed to the decreased power bills. Water usage costs went down because one person left the household. Also replaced the A/C and furnace with more efficient systems. :money:
So, the putinists have lied to us and it is not the same everywhere in the West? How are your gas (aka petrol) prices? Have they been growing non-stop like here in Putin's Russia, one of the global leaders of oil production?:))
The gas (petrol) prices in my area have been about $2.67 USD per gallon (or roughly 70 cents per liter). Several years ago when crude prices went above $100 USD per barrel, the gas costs approached $4 a gallon. Some people were feeling impacted by the price. I only fill up my tank about every two months, so even at $10 a gallon that would still not induce me to bike to work. ;D You can buy a lifetime supply of Venezuelan gas with just one dollar. If only I had an underground storage tank. :biggrin:
I read a news article on the local paper that said that the USA could exceed the gas production supply of Saudi Arabia and Russia (not combined) in the near future.
I see, so, while the Russians have to suffer from much higher petrol prices the Americans seem to be enjoying huge discounts.:) Well, flood Europe with cheap gas asap please, I know you are moving in this direction. You probably mean oil, not gas though, in connection with the Saudi Arabia and Russia? Frac is a huge thing in the US these days and you have untapped some of the reserves. Anyway, more gas and more oil to the market please. Flood it with cheap oil and gas like there is no tomorrow. We need the oil price at 40-50 for a year.:)
I expect you will find interesting this radio show from washington....1 day ago.
Connecting the Dots on Bill Browder and Mikhail Khodorkovsky
Listen to the recording:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiosputnik/connecting-the-dots-on-bill-browder-and-
tiphat
I expect you will find interesting this radio show from washington....1 day ago.
Connecting the Dots on Bill Browder and Mikhail Khodorkovsky
Listen to the recording:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiosputnik/connecting-the-dots-on-bill-browder-and-
tiphat
Did you listen to 167 minutes of this bulls shit? Lots of BS and very little factual. Worth noting it is from Sputnik, have they become a comedy channel?
It would be like deciding your future by which zombie is cuter.
We have bought two more apartments since you last saw me Correction My family or friends have bought two more apartments NOT you..you have your hard cash in Swiss Franks in a private bank in Switzerland..
person who doesn't even exist anymore, Jack the lad has been around for a VERY long time and a leopard never changes its spots..
Just like the latest big idea to make money without actually doing any work .. the cryptocurrency thread in Expat.ru the one that has gone dead..they are all tired of the garbage there also..
Just waiting for the "Mother of all pumps" ... :laugh:
Some people just don't like doing a days work...let alone a bloody week!!
This fact alone that I own some crypto may tell you I don't live from hand to mouth. Besides, you know for a fact that one needs thousands of usd to make a site like mine (one company quoted 80K euros after reading my specifications, excluding the design). Rest assured I didn't build it on the change from my daddy's pockets. And yes, another pump is just around the corner. I didn't miss the previous ones and I plan to ride on yet another one... I will be making more money while you will be gasping and eyeballing the skyrocketing charts in pain and envy.:) That said, I have invested only what I can afford to lose, so even if bitcoin crashes to zero tomorrow I will just say "Ok, no big deal" and will move on. I never invest if I am not prepared to lose. I even spent like 300 dollars of my own cash during the promotion stage on your site without telling you, but who needs to know all this now.
Seasoned is a representative of a real group of people with the attributes I have described. Those who have travelled, lived, and kept eyes open will have come across these people. Others, less observant, will not have noticed them even as they interacted with them.
To deny their presence is to do as Soviet Russia did in denying the presence of HIV. All that happens when we deny reality is to store trouble for the future.
The bloke, and others like him, are old fashioned they liked things as they used to be; happier with underemployment while others, usually the state, provided for their needs.
Unlike some, seasoned is probably not an out and out thief or con artist, fleecing foreigners and other easy targets but I am sure that he is one of those who believe that such people deserve the treatment they get.
We can see from his posts that he does not understand the world in which he finds himself and it is certain that he suffers for his comprehension deficit and that feeds his envy as he finds himself unable to enjoy the benefits accruing to his more flexible, harder working, peers.
As I already noted, he is a representative of a type and group of people, a group that the government has to consider and deal with. They are also easily persuaded to align with malign influencers offering 'easy' solutions. He has many peers in Ukraine where millions believed the lies of coup organisers and programmers with the terribly unfortunate outcome we see today.
I guess that this guy is in his early 40's, he is of that generation who suffered the most when the Soviet Union shut up shop and all the existing social contracts were broken. From what I have seen in more than one country there's not much to be done for people like this. They will die out, but will not change.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
The way it works in Russia your employers pay your taxes for you before you even get the cash you have earned, so this is my case as well. However, I don't think my income and my taxes and where I keep my cash is any of your business, mind yours, will you?:) Besides, according to your theory, I never work and sponge off my parents, so, do you want me now to pay taxes for the cash I steal from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep?
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
The way it works in Russia your employers pay your taxes for you before you even get the cash you have earned, so this is my case as well. However, I don't think my income and my taxes and where I keep my cash is any of your business, mind yours, will you?:) Besides, according to your theory, I never work and sponge off my parents, so, do you want me now to pay taxes for the cash I steal from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep?
If you have a job yes... :laugh: but you have never had a proper job in your life .. Jack.. :laugh:
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
Gipsy, all your comments are total BS. I will cover just three because I don't have much time now. My site is free of charge - am I supposed to pay taxes for a free of charge site now? I have zero income off it.:)) Anyway, I don't think you should worry about my income or about my taxes - worry about yours.
Secondly, about Navalny. Yes, he received millions of rubles from the Russian state, check your facts before posting - this article is just about one such payment - https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/08/02/the-navalny-brothers-collect-more-than-four-million-rubles-in-compensation-for-unjust-verdicts-in-the-yves-rocher-case
Thirdly, Magnit is tanking as a retail company, just as X5, no sanctions against them, so yes, bad economy. Rusal - due to the sanctions - so, yes, bad geopolitical strategy of our dear leader. Many Russian companies are tanking now, in most cases it is a combination of factors that are directly related to what is going on here inside the country.
What is your education? You sound like an uneducated Western prole who has been doing manual labor most of his life.:) Now, I don't have anything against manual labor and uneducated Western proles and even respect what the proles do for a living, but it usually doesn't develop one's brain. Otherwise you would not have posted what you did.
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Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
The way it works in Russia your employers pay your taxes for you before you even get the cash you have earned, so this is my case as well. However, I don't think my income and my taxes and where I keep my cash is any of your business, mind yours, will you?:) Besides, according to your theory, I never work and sponge off my parents, so, do you want me now to pay taxes for the cash I steal from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep?
If you have a job yes... :laugh: but you have never had a proper job in your life .. Jack.. :laugh:
Ok, think what is the best for you. Let it be - I sponge off my parents and have never had a proper job in my life. I don't mind at all. However, it doesn't refute the facts I have posted, say, about the payment the Russian state made to Navalny. Or about the crashed ruble. Or about the steep rise in the payments for utilities. Etc.
Which means that the Supreme court over-ruled the ECHR's ruling and no money was paid out..
Anti-corruption activist Alexey Navalny revealed on August 2 that the Russian government paid him and his brother “more than four million rubles” ($63,150) in July to compensate them for the “unjust verdicts” in the Yves Rocher case. In October 2017, the ECHR ordered the Russian government to pay Alexey and Oleg Navalny 76,000 euros and 460,000 rubles in compensation
Gipsy:QuoteWhich means that the Supreme court over-ruled the ECHR's ruling and no money was paid out..
Jesus Christ bananas, that's quite dense. What, now I am supposed to teach natives here how to read English? The money was paid, the ruling was overruled. What is not clear? It is written in your own mother tongue.
Jack the lad is no better than the government he hates! he's just a little hypocrite ..
Everyone is entitled to their view on any government I hate the UK government they are all cheaters and liars , but I have more important things to do other than spend all my life posting all over the net how awful they are. But then thats up to the individual if a person wants to rant on all their life and has nothing better to do! Im not a Putinist and Im sure Putin is doing this and that, to be honest I really don't care.. but I know he's a strong leader wether he is a good guy or a bad guy, I can't really say and probably in no position to say really..Im to busy looking after the wife and two kids, like most people in the world..
BUT
If you spend all your life ducking and diving avoiding all responsibilities in life, if you have never paid any tax let alone any Utilities (Avoiding tax is depriving your own people and country from income) if your going about your neighbourhood like your the local hood and telling everyone how well your doing, how your CASH is saved in Euros or Swiss francs ,if your boasting about it all over the internet and how your the king of the crypto or what other scheme jack the lad has , and if your making so much money to make a web site that costs so much .. BUT your not paying a single rouble in any taxes who the hell is Jack the Lad to criticise his own government?
And of course there is nothing wrong with ducking and diving, working under the radar sort of thing many do and have done including myself , fair play to anyone who earns a load of tax free cash, is not bad in my eyes.. you have to do what you have to do in todays world unfortunately , but if your doing all of this you need to keep your mouth Shut about your own government your accusing of stealing money..
So as you see jack the lad is nothing more than a little hypercritical.. and thats about it..
I expect you will find interesting this radio show from washington....1 day ago.
Connecting the Dots on Bill Browder and Mikhail Khodorkovsky
Listen to the recording:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/radiosputnik/connecting-the-dots-on-bill-browder-and-
tiphat
Did you listen to 167 minutes of this bulls shit? Lots of BS and very little factual. Worth noting it is from Sputnik, have they become a comedy channel?
It would be like deciding your future by which zombie is cuter.
What is your education?
You sound like an uneducated Western prole who has been doing manual labor most of his life.:)
Yes they post/broadcast from Washington D.C.
And yes I listened to 160+ minutes of drivel. I suspect the version you heard and that which was available here are different. Late tonight, I will play around with settings and I hope hear a different fluff free version.
If I have wasted some 4 plus hours on this I am not going to be a happy poster!
For what it is worth Radio Sputnik is a mouthpiece of the Kremlin.
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
The way it works in Russia your employers pay your taxes for you before you even get the cash you have earned, so this is my case as well. However, I don't think my income and my taxes and where I keep my cash is any of your business, mind yours, will you?:) Besides, according to your theory, I never work and sponge off my parents, so, do you want me now to pay taxes for the cash I steal from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep?
Annushka, back in the stalinist times those who report and the reported suffered in equal measure (and not necessarily from the hands of the authorities). I don't think the practices have changed. How disgusting someone must be to even consider something like this on a forum. What sort of a loser one should be to even consider reporting someone on a forum to the authorities, lol.:) I always think twice before posting anything in Internet, so get your money ready to pay me a handsome compensation for a ложный донос and клевета+диффамация.
I am not supposed to like or to worship Putin, I didn't even vote for the guy and there is no law stating I should adore and support him, we are not in the North Korea yet. As to insulting him, where are the insults? All I said he made his buddies rich and he is not hiding that the guys like Timchenko and Rotenberg are his friends. And I also think he is the cause of the current economic hardships in Russia. It is not insults, it is оценочное суждение - fully allowed by the existing RF law.
Anyway, thank you for showing your true colors to me and to everyone here on the forum. Now everyone knows whom exactly I oppose and who the real losers are.
This is good to know. Typical Western propaganda is that you can be thrown into jail by Putin or his authorities for the smallest infraction. It sounds like that’s not true.
They seem to hand-pick some innocent people for the intimidation of others on occasion, but they don't have the resources and the environment required for massive purges. Besides, the innocent ones almost always end up receiving handsome compensations upon the rulings by the European Court. Navalny has received millions of rubles from the Russian state - compensation for the wrong court rulings. Also, sometimes they even punish their own followers and admirers - either by mistake or because of some other factors. Here is just one example - a pro-putin person brutally arrested at an anti-putin rally - In other words, - yes they can and they do, - but there are many "buts" and "ifs" and "maybes" involved. Whenever I post something in Internet, I always take all this into account. Otherwise my posts would have been way more entertaining.:) But I use self-censorship all the time even when posting here.
Not having the time to query much of what you have written in this thread, the above is totally incorrect...
Although the ECHR told the Russian Government to pay 56,000e to Navalny, under Russian law, as he is "classed" as a criminal, he cannot receive any such payment, therefore no such payment has been made to date as it would be illegal..
I must add that you are posting only your views, others may have their own views which may be totally opposite to yours..
Magnit and Rusal shares took a nosedive for other reasons than those which you are attesting to, again, you should re-check the facts before using this in your description of the "BAD" Russia economy..
As far as pensions in Russia are concerned, please explain Why you feel your mother should receive a higher income from the state than, say someone who drove a tram all their life?
Though, I would suggest that you never wanted for anything in your early years what with your mum being a doctor, all those gifts/joints of meat and poultry, baskets of fruit and veg/white envelopes..
Btw, a friends grandma has a Russian pension of 200,000r/month, I'll write that just for clarity's sake, (Two hundred thousand roubles a month)
I have however one query for you, which is, according to "your" website, any legal complaints against you have to be made in the courts of the US BVI, how on earth can a "poor" Russian client ever manage to make any legal claim against you?? Why is your site NOT registered in Russia?? Do you pay taxes in Russia??
Have you declared any foreign bank accounts and their balances annually in Russia?? What are you afraid of??
You seem to me to be a bit of a "fly-by-night sort of person, without my being disrespectful or attacking you.
He never answered the questions "Do you pay taxes in Russia" "Have you declared foreign bank accounts and they balances" Remember Jack the lad keeps all his hard currency in foreign bank accounts as he already stated... or maybe it doesn't count for accounts under 1 Euro in credit? :ROFL:
The way it works in Russia your employers pay your taxes for you before you even get the cash you have earned, so this is my case as well. However, I don't think my income and my taxes and where I keep my cash is any of your business, mind yours, will you?:) Besides, according to your theory, I never work and sponge off my parents, so, do you want me now to pay taxes for the cash I steal from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep?
Hello Andrey, I have a proposition for you. Steveboy continues to stick his beak into your business, yet he is the guy who never paid you nor did he pay taxes to the RF on your work.
You should make a formal complaint to the Russian courts about his fraud. No doubt the court will believe you, a Russian man speaking Russian. Why would they believe Steve, a typical western fraudster stealing bread from the belly of a Russian? Not to mention he owes taxes to the Russian government for your work.
Why should you, a hard working Russian be the one to learn a lesson about the corrupt bourgeois Westerner? :laugh: tiphat
^You’re a better man than I am. After all of his annoying gossip and backstabbing I would have already filed with the court.
And who knows, maybe Steveboy likes to be bent over like a good hooker. :ROFL:
Now now Steveboy, you do blow a lot of smoke don’t you old chap?
You were rather easy to windup, no sense of humor have you? :laugh:
Now now Steveboy, you do blow a lot of smoke don’t you old chap?
You were rather easy to windup, no sense of humor have you? :laugh:
My e mail redsquarecupid@gmail.com Russian courts can serve the papers there. Actually they are very efficient in Russia if you want to sue some one, 25/30,000 roubles and job done in just a few weeks, they don't hang about..
So Im waiting..so will my lawyer,, bring it on monkeys.. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!
Now now Steveboy, you do blow a lot of smoke don’t you old chap?
You were rather easy to windup, no sense of humor have you? :laugh:
My e mail redsquarecupid@gmail.com Russian courts can serve the papers there. Actually they are very efficient in Russia if you want to sue some one, 25/30,000 roubles and job done in just a few weeks, they don't hang about..
So Im waiting..so will my lawyer,, bring it on monkeys.. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!
Does this mean that you’ll no longer be harassing Andrey about his income and his taxes?
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
Now now Steveboy, you do blow a lot of smoke don’t you old chap?
You were rather easy to windup, no sense of humor have you? :laugh:
My e mail redsquarecupid@gmail.com Russian courts can serve the papers there. Actually they are very efficient in Russia if you want to sue some one, 25/30,000 roubles and job done in just a few weeks, they don't hang about..
So Im waiting..so will my lawyer,, bring it on monkeys.. PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS!
Does this mean that you’ll no longer be harassing Andrey about his income and his taxes?
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
I will tell you what I will do shall I? jack the lad publicly wrote a load of lies about me owning him money on the public domain .. for work I never paid the lazy bugger for:laugh:
Lets have some real fun here.. I will sue Jack of all trades Monday morning and post the papers on this forum .. you want some fun..fine by me.. lets go...
My creative evening dedicated to the Day of the Russian Air Force continues! tiphat
To carry on, you believe that Navalny received many millions in compensation, and you posted this and I quote from it,
Anti-corruption activist Alexey Navalny revealed on August 2 that the Russian government paid him and his brother “more than four million rubles” ($63,150) in July to compensate them for the “unjust verdicts” in the Yves Rocher case.
And you of course believed the article, but read further, and again I quote from the same article
In April 2018, the Presidium of the Russian Supreme Court refused to overturn the “Yves Rocher” verdict, and simultaneously concluded that the case should be reopened to consider the “new facts.” Navalny’s lawyer didn’t want the investigation reopened, however, and has pointed out that the last ECHR ruling to force a retrial of a case against Alexey Navalny (the “Kirovles” case) resulted in a verdict that was identical to the first.
Which means that the Supreme court over-ruled the ECHR's ruling and no money was paid out..
Steveboy, getting inflamed over a lazy [snip] is not worthwhile. He gets off on reactions, that's why he is here. Bored, broke, basement dweller happy to get a reaction of some kind, an acknowledgment, from his betters because it makes him feel, for just a moment, as though he is our equal.
Let's be fair to the guy, he is, as I noted before, a member of the generation that suffered the most when the social contract between people and state was broken in 1992. He is about the youngest of that group but the effects are just as real. It is tough for these people. Some took matters into their own hands and made something of themselves, some retreated into a bottle and some into the security of their more successful parents' bedrooms.
Don't get angry at the guy, his path through life is set and you won't change it one way or another. It is hard to respect people like him when seeing what his stronger peers, both male and female have achieved despite the disadvantages they faced, but we can perhaps feel some compassion and understanding.
Steveboy, getting inflamed over a lazy [snip] is not worthwhile. He gets off on reactions
Seasoned - you are a naughty boy - you aren't a 'patriot' if you question your government ...
Can we refrain from insulting each other please? Editing posts is tedious.
Can we refrain from insulting each other please? Editing posts is tedious.
I think you may have deleted my post by mistake; I made no insult I was simply laughing at Seasoned’s caviar joke.
I agree with Manny, have the same view on this actually. I may snarl back, but frankly I derive no pleasure from this.
Back to the thread topic then:) - am reading in the Russian sources that the Wall Street Journal has reported there will be a new round of sanctions against the companies who will want to get involved with the Nord Stream-2... Gazprom shares will be tanking on Monday, imho. https://lenta.ru/news/2018/08/18/stop_stream/
I agree with Manny, have the same view on this actually. I may snarl back, but frankly I derive no pleasure from this.
Back to the thread topic then:) - am reading in the Russian sources that the Wall Street Journal has reported there will be a new round of sanctions against the companies who will want to get involved with the Nord Stream-2... Gazprom shares will be tanking on Monday, imho. https://lenta.ru/news/2018/08/18/stop_stream/
TBH I’m no longer a fan of sanctions. Also even though I don’t agree 100% with the Russian version of events in regards Crimea, I do believe it may be time for the West including the USA to recognize Crimea.
As they say “you catch more bees with honey”
(that’s not exactly what they say but I like it) :chuckle:
Nope, gotta check it out.:) Well, just look at the map I have just posted above. Quite scary. It is the RF population density map.
Surprisingly, a Kremlin propagandist Mikhalkov shot a quasi-documentary about the same stuff, just watch the video, it is self-explanatory even without knowing Russian:))
Nope, gotta check it out.:) Well, just look at the map I have just posted above. Quite scary. It is the RF population density map.
Surprisingly, a Kremlin propagandist Mikhalkov shot a quasi-documentary about the same stuff, just watch the video, it is self-explanatory even without knowing Russian:))
This is why Russia gives free land in the Far East IF you will farm it.
Nope, gotta check it out.:) Well, just look at the map I have just posted above. Quite scary. It is the RF population density map.
Surprisingly, a Kremlin propagandist Mikhalkov shot a quasi-documentary about the same stuff, just watch the video, it is self-explanatory even without knowing Russian:))
This is why Russia gives free land in the Far East IF you will farm it.
Exactly, I haven't heard about many takers though. It looks like another failed state program, there was a lot of hot air about this on tv, now it is all forgotten, it seems.
I've often said: dont say anything here you wouldn't say to an angry bloke who is 6'3" across a bar.
I've often said: dont say anything here you wouldn't say to an angry bloke who is 6'3" across a bar.
Thank you,... You honesty don't see ANY irony in what you just posted ? :ROFL:
Nope, gotta check it out.:) Well, just look at the map I have just posted above. Quite scary. It is the RF population density map.
Surprisingly, a Kremlin propagandist Mikhalkov shot a quasi-documentary about the same stuff, just watch the video, it is self-explanatory even without knowing Russian:))
This is why Russia gives free land in the Far East IF you will farm it.
Exactly, I haven't heard about many takers though. It looks like another failed state program, there was a lot of hot air about this on tv, now it is all forgotten, it seems.
Former US President Obama spent 836 Billion Dollars on a stimulus plan that was a boondoggle and did little to nothing to help the US economy. As you said, a failed state program. Believe me it happens over here also.
$128 Million On Bridge Connecting Communities Of Palm City And Stuart Despite The Fact That "There Is Already A Bridge That Connects The Two Communities Less Than Three Miles Away.
https://gop.com/the-real-obama-stimulus/
Andrew, I am going to suffer some more now, together with some fellow-sufferers from my generation - am going to a barbecue party out of the town, there will be nubile girls, caviar, vodka, shashlik on the open fire + the sauna, of course. I will try to suffer in moderation, there is one particular girl who said she will bring a whip to punish me.:) I just thought you should know.
Nope, gotta check it out.:) Well, just look at the map I have just posted above. Quite scary. It is the RF population density map.
Surprisingly, a Kremlin propagandist Mikhalkov shot a quasi-documentary about the same stuff, just watch the video, it is self-explanatory even without knowing Russian:))
This is why Russia gives free land in the Far East IF you will farm it.
Exactly, I haven't heard about many takers though. It looks like another failed state program, there was a lot of hot air about this on tv, now it is all forgotten, it seems.
Former US President Obama spent 836 Billion Dollars on a stimulus plan that was a boondoggle and did little to nothing to help the US economy. As you said, a failed state program. Believe me it happens over here also.
$128 Million On Bridge Connecting Communities Of Palm City And Stuart Despite The Fact That "There Is Already A Bridge That Connects The Two Communities Less Than Three Miles Away.
https://gop.com/the-real-obama-stimulus/
Sure thing, I don't idolize the West or the US, you have many big problems. I would still rather partner with the US than with China. One of the reasons - I don't really want to learn the Chinese, am too old for this sh't.:) Well, even partnership with the US and China at the same time is possible, we just need a better, modern leadership here. And much less lies. It is 21st century out there, but when I switch on the tv I am back in 1984 again. I go "WTF???", watch it for 10 minutes, then switch it off, it is akin to torture, watching and listening to their lies and drivel. A weird, Orwellian feeling. There is a huge Versailles syndrome here, I find it not just awkward, it is dangerous. They bring army representatives even to rock concerts these days.:)
Good for you Seasoned. It will be nice to be picked up in somebody else's car, go to somebody else's place, enjoy somebody else's hospitality. Yup, sounds right up your street.
I get it matey. There are millions like you. Freeloading where they can.
Good for you Seasoned. It will be nice to be picked up in somebody else's car, go to somebody else's place, enjoy somebody else's hospitality. Yup, sounds right up your street.
I get it matey. There are millions like you. Freeloading where they can.
So russia is becoming more expensive. Yet not as much as seasoned seems to think. I think every dutch person has at least 1000 eur/month basic costs you cant get rid of. This does not include food
Good for you Seasoned. It will be nice to be picked up in somebody else's car, go to somebody else's place, enjoy somebody else's hospitality. Yup, sounds right up your street.
I get it matey. There are millions like you. Freeloading where they can.
Thats spot on!! he will be there telling the girls he's a crypto king, has a International web business, piles of hard currency stashed in foreign banks the usual dribble..
Of course when they realise he's still renting at mommies they will soon get tired..
It reminds me of one night out with jack the lad.. he called two girls over to our table both girls had a glass of champaign .. so along they come.. jack the lad starts blagging.. after 10 mins they get bored and leave.. BUT they also leave on the table their two glasses of champaign hardly drunk.. So Jack picks the two glasses up and goes straight over to two other girls and says "My friend just bought you both a glass of champaign, come over sit with us" :laugh:
Yes for sure its rather amusing for sure..
Wellcome to jack the lads world..
Speculation.
Yes, by former 'member' states... It's bit like the English using God save the Queen or The Irish anthem at Rugby ...'insensitive'
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
I have said already that the utilities bill for our apartment has grown from 3500 rubles to 7500 rubles during the last two years - and there is no reason I should thank Putin for this. And I am the one who pays for it. How come I am not real?:) Am I a bot? I am as real as one can be... But fair enough - there is no need to believe me. Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
I have said already that the utilities bill for our apartment has grown from 3500 rubles to 7500 rubles during the last two years - and there is no reason I should thank Putin for this. And I am the one who pays for it. How come I am not real?:) Am I a bot? I am as real as one can be... But fair enough - there is no need to believe me. Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Our council tax has doubled in around 7 years and the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too. I live in the UK, can I blame Putin too?
:reading:
the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too....can I blame Putin too?
I have said already that the utilities bill for our apartment has grown from 3500 rubles to 7500 rubles during the last two years - and there is no reason I should thank Putin for this. And I am the one who pays for it. How come I am not real?:) Am I a bot? I am as real as one can be... But fair enough - there is no need to believe me. Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Our council tax has doubled in around 7 years and the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too. I live in the UK, can I blame Putin too?
:reading:
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
I have said already that the utilities bill for our apartment has grown from 3500 rubles to 7500 rubles during the last two years - and there is no reason I should thank Putin for this. And I am the one who pays for it. How come I am not real?:) Am I a bot? I am as real as one can be... But fair enough - there is no need to believe me. Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Our council tax has doubled in around 7 years and the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too. I live in the UK, can I blame Putin too?
:reading:
In your case it would be logical to blame your council and your government. I would understand it and would never tell you that you are wrong and you should blame only yourself and your own ineptitude to make more money to cover the increasing costs. I don't claim the West is a paradise, you do have many problems of your own. However, it is not like the British pound is crashing against the Russian ruble, quite the opposite process is taking place. It actually may be good for some export businesses, but on the whole it is an indicator that something has gone wrong. One of many indicators that I see and that many of you here turn your blind eye to.
Is Putin as evil as Seasoned makes him out to be, no. He is trying to govern an enormous country that had to reinvent itself some three decades ago. Has he made mistakes, yes certainly. Please point out a leader who has not.
the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too....can I blame Putin too?
Where you living with your now Wife then ? ...
I have said already that the utilities bill for our apartment has grown from 3500 rubles to 7500 rubles during the last two years - and there is no reason I should thank Putin for this. And I am the one who pays for it. How come I am not real?:) Am I a bot? I am as real as one can be... But fair enough - there is no need to believe me. Ask any Russian in SPb about their utilities bills - they will tell you they have grown like crazy during the last 2-3 years.
Also, VAT has been raised by 2% recently - it will surely jack up the prices for everything, just like the recently devalued ruble.
Our council tax has doubled in around 7 years and the utilities are unrecognisable during that period too. I live in the UK, can I blame Putin too?
:reading:
In the US we would blame Obama. ;D
Seriously though Seasoned is presenting a scenario that makes some of the pro-Putinists uncomfortable. Some are beginning to sound like precious snowflakes. Those complaining are a bit like those on the Titanic who noted the vessel was tipping a bit. Is Putin as evil as Seasoned makes him out to be, no. He is trying to govern an enormous country that had to reinvent itself some three decades ago. Has he made mistakes, yes certainly. Please point out a leader who has not.
I am not saying that Mother Russia is going to hit an iceberg but rather as in The United States, across The European Union and in Russia things are far from perfect. The regions are not a Utopia,* please though let me know if you find one.
*Pun intended
Is Putin as evil as Seasoned makes him out to be, no. He is trying to govern an enormous country that had to reinvent itself some three decades ago. Has he made mistakes, yes certainly. Please point out a leader who has not.
Which is why he has been challenged. Nobody here is actually a Putanist or denying things could be better in Russia.
Seasoned however is extremely critical of his government in every area, celebrates a possible doomsday scenario and paints quite an extreme picture. He's entitled to his own opinions but not his own facts, especially when it comes to comparing his life with the West.
At times we all get a bit prickly on here but Seasoned is no different to a Scottish nationalist bashing the Tories in the UK. People like this often have many good points that get lost because they wont agree with facts or consider changing their views on proven matters. It's imbedded in their DNA and you're better off bashing your skull against a brick wall. Example - (1) What party do you vote for? (2) Labour! (1) Why? (2) Because my family always votes Labour! (1) Do you know what they stand for? (2) ???
Walk into a pub in Glasgow's east end and ask them why they'll never vote Tory. You'll get all sorts of weird and wonderful answers, mostly centred around Thatcher and in a way, rightly so. That said, many expected the state to provide a standard of living and they became the have not's and the forgotten. Some adapted and did well for themselves, others continued to blame Thatcher, fell into poverty, smoked fags and drunk all day - and then blamed the government.
Sounds all too familiar.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
It’s easy to hire a driver with a nice car or new SUV. If I were to return to Europe I probably wouldn’t bother owning a car either.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
It’s easy to hire a driver with a nice car or new SUV. If I were to return to Europe I probably wouldn’t bother owning a car either.
That would be on holiday though yea?
If I lived in a massive city on limited resources, a car could be considered a luxury if not sometimes a hindrance. Let’s say you need to see clients for business though. However good the transport network is in the city, you’d be screwed if you needed to go from A to B to C and then maybe a detour to D outside.
Or a trip to the mountains to ski, or a day at the beach or a road trip etc.
The point is, owning a car in a city doesn’t make you an idiot.
No change in personal circumstances but nice try.
The point is, owning a car in a city doesn’t make you an idiot.
Tourists are always different to residents. We are not talking about tourists or bubble people. I thought context made that pretty clear?
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Sorry you are confusing apples and pears.
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Sorry you are confusing apples and pears.
My point was that car ownership doesn't really define one's finances (if we are talking just about owning a car for moving around, not fancy brands for showing off - even they may mean nothing unless it is, say, a brand new Rolls Royce). Like I have mentioned, 45% of the cars in my city are bought on credit. A car in a good running condition, 8-10 years old, would cost here like USD4K these days. I bought mine for USD3K back in 2000, was using it for 4 years while I worked in a small town and really needed it. One doesn't need to be well-off financially to own a car these days.
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Sorry you are confusing apples and pears.
My point was that car ownership doesn't really define one's finances (if we are talking just about owning a car for moving around, not fancy brands for showing off - even they may mean nothing unless it is, say, a brand new Rolls Royce). Like I have mentioned, 45% of the cars in my city are bought on credit. A car in a good running condition, 8-10 years old, would cost here like USD4K these days. I bought mine for USD3K back in 2000, was using it for 4 years while I worked in a small town and really needed it. One doesn't need to be well-off financially to own a car these days.
Owning a Rolls Royce or similar type car is called 'conspicuous consumption' a term coined I believe by A. Toffler. A vehicle to move from a village on the outskirts to near the center of a city where one is employed is quite different and justifiable.
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
It’s easy to hire a driver with a nice car or new SUV. If I were to return to Europe I probably wouldn’t bother owning a car either.
No change in personal circumstances but nice try.
Fibber ... you weren't married or living with your wife, 7 years ago ;) Read your first post here from 2011 - 7 years ago :chuckle:
The point is, owning a car in a city doesn’t make you an idiot.
It doesn't even make economic sense to own a car in many cites with good public transport and I know plenty of well offish folk in the UK / Russia who don't own cars and 'manage'
Rosco isn't 'right' ... it's what's right for you and your circumstances / life-style
Like I said, no change in personal circumstances.
I’ll await your admission of being wrong Moby?
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Sorry you are confusing apples and pears.
My point was that car ownership doesn't really define one's finances (if we are talking just about owning a car for moving around, not fancy brands for showing off - even they may mean nothing unless it is, say, a brand new Rolls Royce). Like I have mentioned, 45% of the cars in my city are bought on credit. A car in a good running condition, 8-10 years old, would cost here like USD4K these days. I bought mine for USD3K back in 2000, was using it for 4 years while I worked in a small town and really needed it. One doesn't need to be well-off financially to own a car these days.
Take one of my friends - he drive a 3 mln. rubles Volvo but still owes me the cash he took from me to buy food. The girls he drives around will surely be impressed by the car, but I doubt they would be impressed if they found out his company is on the brink of collapse and he asks his friends for cash to buy food and gas for his nice vehicle.
Don’t tell me that if you can into serious dollar over night, you’d still hail a grotty taxi with its dodgy driver?
Here is a life hack for Andrew, our wealthy and knowing penpal: the Americans I worked for for many years here in Russia didn't bother owning a car (well, only one expat did, but he was a European), the cars were either rented or taxis. There was a rental agreement with a company. Each one was making at least USD10K per month. My boss was making USD50K per month, was wearing an old jacket, a cheap Montana watch he bought like 15 years ago, I saw him wearing a tie only once in 8 years. I owned a car back then and was giving them a ride on occasion whenever their taxi or rental service let them down. My salary was USD1K...
Sorry you are confusing apples and pears.
My point was that car ownership doesn't really define one's finances (if we are talking just about owning a car for moving around, not fancy brands for showing off - even they may mean nothing unless it is, say, a brand new Rolls Royce). Like I have mentioned, 45% of the cars in my city are bought on credit. A car in a good running condition, 8-10 years old, would cost here like USD4K these days. I bought mine for USD3K back in 2000, was using it for 4 years while I worked in a small town and really needed it. One doesn't need to be well-off financially to own a car these days.
Take one of my friends - he drive a 3 mln. rubles Volvo but still owes me the cash he took from me to buy food. The girls he drives around will surely be impressed by the car, but I doubt they would be impressed if they found out his company is on the brink of collapse and he asks his friends for cash to buy food and gas for his nice vehicle.
Sorry but I totally disagree.
People who own boats & planes, generally don’t use them daily. It might make better sense to rent but this doesn’t make them an idiot. They can afford to buy one and use it when they want to. The same can be said about a middle class person with a vehicle.
Other than the tiny minority who can both afford and want to be chauffeured around, people have cars where they can. Almost every person I meet through business both moderately or massively successful has a car. Only students and those described by Andrew, use public transportation as an option.
Still not getting it? Ok think about privacy and how much we value it. If I can make a journey under my own steam that doesn’t involve waiting around or sniffing other peoples farts, I will. If I can drive to a restaurant in the city or visit a rural spa with my wife then I will, we value privacy and the intimacy.
Think safety. A family or a lone traveller will drive themselves if they have the means because it makes sense. If you can afford it then you use what you can.
Whether you agree with me or not on environmental, practical or simply just feelz then fair enough but it’s about economics. Don’t tell me that if you can into serious dollar over night, you’d still hail a grotty taxi with its dodgy driver?
QuoteSounds like America. But probably 90% of cars are bought on credit there I'd guess.
I have never purchased a car on credit. Never have, never will. :thumbsup:
I don't see a problem. You belong to those 10% who never do this.:) Me in Saint Pete, I don't have a car, a taxi from one end of the city to another (6 million people, quite big) costs USD20. So, one have to be a real idiot to own a car here. Most people do...
An idiot, only if one never leaves the city. In reality, people who own cars, generally travel much further than the city limits.
You of course, may have no need to leave your house, others do.
Just yesterday I traveled 20 km away from the city, the trip to the place and back from it by taxi cost me 800 rubles (USD12). There are also all sorts of cheaper public transportation options, trains and buses go pretty much everywhere. It is true that one needs a car when he lives in a small town/village. The US structure is a bit different, one needs a car much more than here in Russia.
One needs a car if they're a well connected, hard working, adventurous person. Whether its a road trip with the family, a weekend away with the wife or a series of business meetings, a private car offers you far more convenience than public transport. Imagine dating a hot lady and taking her on a weekend trip, on the trolly bus!! :ROFL:
Feel free to argue about this too but its a fact.
It’s easy to hire a driver with a nice car or new SUV. If I were to return to Europe I probably wouldn’t bother owning a car either.
Of all the countries that I have lived and or worked in the only country that I had a car in was Indonesia. If the country has good public transportation one does not need to waist time or money on a car.
When I was dating my wife we never felt the need to rent/purchase a car except for the USA.
I don't NEED a car. Almost nobody NEEDS a car. There's alternatives. But that was exactly my point. If you can't afford a car then you live a different and probably inferior life. One might try to justify it to oneself and others but we know, we know.
If you live in a place as opposed to being a visitor then one gets a car if one can afford it. I went for years without a car. But life improved a lot when I got sensible.
Owning a car is not conspicuous consumption unless one's peers all walk round in shoes made with old car tyres and not even the residents of St. Petersburg do that these days.
Fun to see the justifications I predicted popping up though!
Pro tip: one feels much better about life when one has one's own home, one's own car, decent clothes and the resources to travel well. All this is supported by a regular income from a little bit of consistent effort.
I don't NEED a car. Almost nobody NEEDS a car. There's alternatives. But that was exactly my point. If you can't afford a car then you live a different and probably inferior life. One might try to justify it to oneself and others but we know, we know.
If you live in a place as opposed to being a visitor then one gets a car if one can afford it. I went for years without a car. But life improved a lot when I got sensible.
Owning a car is not conspicuous consumption unless one's peers all walk round in shoes made with old car tyres and not even the residents of St. Petersburg do that these days.
Fun to see the justifications I predicted popping up though!
Pro tip: one feels much better about life when one has one's own home, one's own car, decent clothes and the resources to travel well. All this is supported by a regular income from a little bit of consistent effort.
Pro tip: one feels much better about life when one has one's own home, one's own car, decent clothes and the resources to travel well. All this is supported by a regular income from a little bit of consistent effort.
Seasoned, you try to tell us that you ain't the skint bloke, yet all the time you show us that you are. It is a state of mind you have going on here. For most of us, decent dentistry and car ownership are not an either/or choice.
Confederate, what are you burbling about? Are you another impecunious bus pass holder?
The reason I challenged you is because as you’ve finally admitted, the rest of the people you share a city with aren’t idiots, for having cars.
We’ve got a few other posters trying to convince themselves that having a car isn’t practical these days because public transport is so amazing. I’m not buying that.
If you can afford a car you will have one, to use when you need. Be it to attend a wedding, take the dog to the vet or go collect bark at Homebase for the garden. I don’t want to be scaffing lifts off friends and I don’t want some stranger sitting inches from me every time I need to go somewhere.
As it happens, I need my vehicle for work and couldn’t do what I do without one. I also have friends who live in London and whilst it’s a pain in the arse taking a car to the shops, they have private parking at home and work because they live in London.
When I was a student and didn’t have a car, I made do with other modes of transport and generally got on ok.
Jack the lad has an excuse or answer for every possible scenario... :laugh:
I remember some times he would just VANISH for days on end, couldn't contact him , no answer on the phone..no nothing..
Then suddenly he would re appear 3/4 days later and say "It wasn't my fault I bumped into some women last night and things happened"
Welcome to Jack the lads world.. :ROFL:
I can smell some stuff thats usually laying about the fields in Dorset... :laugh:
I can smell some stuff thats usually laying about the fields in Dorset... :laugh:
Do you own a car Steveboy? Because I get the feeling you do NOT own a car. :chuckle:
For this I can say for absolutely sure EVERY Russian friend we have owns a car..I do not know any Russians who do not own a car.. probably the garbage men have even got a car..
Our estate car park under ground and above ground is full to the brim.. we were out on the weekend looking at several new housing estates and they are all full of youngsters who own cars .. Of course there will always be a few people who do not own a car, thats up to them.. But in general everyone has one here in Russia , at least everyone we know..
I live in a large city with excellent public transport. Yet i absolutely need and therefore own 2 bmw. If one breaks i can use the other.
no. Neither ever failed me. But if something goes *poof* at work say 3 am. Having no car is not an optionI live in a large city with excellent public transport. Yet i absolutely need and therefore own 2 bmw. If one breaks i can use the other.
An unfortunate consequence of driving a BMW?
no. Neither ever failed me. But if something goes *poof* at work say 3 am. Having no car is not an optionI live in a large city with excellent public transport. Yet i absolutely need and therefore own 2 bmw. If one breaks i can use the other.
An unfortunate consequence of driving a BMW?
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
The reality is a 10 or even 20 year old BMW or Mercedes looks good. The same can not be said of any Far Eastern shit barrel on four wheels.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
The reality is a 10 or even 20 year old BMW or Mercedes looks good. The same can not be said of any Far Eastern shit barrel on four wheels.
Toyota CarinaE was quite reliable I remember.:) The new Camry is a real samurai. The Japanese know their sh't too.
We’ve got a few other posters trying to convince themselves that having a car isn’t practical these days because public transport is so amazing. I’m not buying that.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
For this I can say for absolutely sure EVERY Russian friend we have owns a car..I do not know any Russians who do not own a car.. probably the garbage men have even got a car..
Our estate car park under ground and above ground is full to the brim.. we were out on the weekend looking at several new housing estates and they are all full of youngsters who own cars .. Of course there will always be a few people who do not own a car, thats up to them.. But in general everyone has one here in Russia , at least everyone we know..
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Well I do very much like the styling of the Range Rover but the previously poor reliability record and high maintenance costs would give me pause.
I know you will say the interiors are plastic but for reliability and a reasonable sticker price I like the GMC mid sized Acadia Denali SUV. I also very much like the BMW 5 series SUV which as I recall Gypsy has one.
I wouldn’t hesitate to get the new Bentley SUV.
For this I can say for absolutely sure EVERY Russian friend we have owns a car..I do not know any Russians who do not own a car.. probably the garbage men have even got a car..
Our estate car park under ground and above ground is full to the brim.. we were out on the weekend looking at several new housing estates and they are all full of youngsters who own cars .. Of course there will always be a few people who do not own a car, thats up to them.. But in general everyone has one here in Russia , at least everyone we know..
Steveboy - Car ownership in Russia is about 60 percent that of the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_vehicles_per_capita)
In Sochi, VERY few people I know under 30 have a car. We don't have an underground transport system - just buses that have faster routes .. Parking i spaces are hard to find and patrolling 'Evakuators' will relieve one of half a month's salary for the average person ((
......and YET ... there are loads of new Toyotas and more upmarket cars on the road. Mostly, bought on tick... according to folks we know who work for a finance company in the retail park where most of the main dealerships are situated
These people live in Stalin era apartments and express their 'affluence' with their car !
Clearly, we know poorer Russians ;)
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Everyone needs a car.. If you say you don't OR give some lame excuse it just means you cannot afford to run a car.. pretty simple really..
I know very few people who don't own cars, but the few who I know will say "I can't afford to run a car" Its no big deal and doesn't mean no one will think less of you..
Admitting you cannot afford a car gets lots more respect than coming up with 100 lame excuses why you don't need a car...
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Manny, I asked it on one forum but no one really answered and I am still curious.:) When the steering wheel is on the right side, your free hand to shift the gears and to reach for stuff is obviously your left hand. Now, most people are right-handed. Something looks very screwed up in the British road system. I mean, all right-handed people are forced to shift gears, click the buttons, reach for stuff, etc. with their left hands. I understand that one gets used to everything after a while, I still find it wrong.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Manny, I asked it on one forum but no one really answered and I am still curious.:) When the steering wheel is on the right side, your free hand to shift the gears and to reach for stuff is obviously your left hand. Now, most people are right-handed. Something looks very screwed up in the British road system. I mean, all right-handed people are forced to shift gears, click the buttons, reach for stuff, etc. with their left hands. I understand that one gets used to everything after a while, I still find it wrong.
I agree 100%! The biggest mistake Hitler ever made was violating the pact with Stalin and invading the former Soviet Union instead of invading the U.K. which is what had been originally planned and what his Generals wanted! Simple victory would have been Hitlers if he first invaded that little island, what the hell is the name of it? Where a lot of British ships passed through? Malta, that's it!
Anyways if he invaded U.K. first, there would be no more annoying British English, they'd all be speaking German, and they would drive on the right side of the road, which is the correct side of the road! :laugh:
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Manny, I asked it on one forum but no one really answered and I am still curious.:) When the steering wheel is on the right side, your free hand to shift the gears and to reach for stuff is obviously your left hand. Now, most people are right-handed. Something looks very screwed up in the British road system. I mean, all right-handed people are forced to shift gears, click the buttons, reach for stuff, etc. with their left hands. I understand that one gets used to everything after a while, I still find it wrong.
What is good about BMW is their design stays almost the same for years.:) BMW and Mercedes used to be the mafia cars here, especially BMW.
I have been quite impressed by the most recent Toyota Camry - a really cool car both inside and outside.
I had several Asian foreign visitors stop by for a brief visit. They saw that I did not own a BMW or Mercedes car and were disappointed. I could afford to get several of them, but I am of the type that runs a vehicle until it is "nearly dead". ;D Also with car insurance cost factors, best to purchase a model that has an average lower cost to insure because paying the premiums is like pouring money down the drain. >:(
I personally think you should almost be a lottery winner to own a BMW or most European cars for that matter. High maintenance costs and high insurance costs. Having said that I do really like the BMW 5 series especially the M5. Overall I’m like you I like to drive a car until it’s nearly dead. :chuckle:
Only one choice for the discerning bloke, here or in Russia. Better in black with a two tone interior of course. And Clarkson is right what he says at the end, the 4.4TDV8 is the one to have. :smokin:
Manny, I asked it on one forum but no one really answered and I am still curious.:) When the steering wheel is on the right side, your free hand to shift the gears and to reach for stuff is obviously your left hand. Now, most people are right-handed. Something looks very screwed up in the British road system. I mean, all right-handed people are forced to shift gears, click the buttons, reach for stuff, etc. with their left hands. I understand that one gets used to everything after a while, I still find it wrong.
Yet the dominant hand is in control of the vehicle! :biggrin:
It’s neither here nor there for me, you get used to both and I struggle with neither. Never once have I found it hard shifting gears to pressing buttons with my left hand. Especially now I only drive auto’s........
;D
Manny, I asked it on one forum but no one really answered and I am still curious.:) When the steering wheel is on the right side, your free hand to shift the gears and to reach for stuff is obviously your left hand. Now, most people are right-handed. Something looks very screwed up in the British road system. I mean, all right-handed people are forced to shift gears, click the buttons, reach for stuff, etc. with their left hands. I understand that one gets used to everything after a while, I still find it wrong.
Lame excuses! ;D It is one thing to steer the weel (you can still do it with both! hands in many situations) and it is quite another thing to click all sorts of various small buttons, to swipe a screen and so forth. You write with your left hand with pleasure as well - when you use a pen?
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?I'd love to see you try that in a wet grassland, or trying to drive that hot hatch through deeper pools of water.
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
Didnt I see you in a Land Rover some time back?
I'd love to see you try that in a wet grassland, or trying to drive that hot hatch through deeper pools of water.
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
The man who knows everything and has a friend in all environments for any situation. :whist11:
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
Of course Moby has a fleet of trucks - he plays with them every day in the kitchen.
Any of you fancy buying this one, it will cost just USD600K:)? Beats all your Range Rovers by a large margin.:)
Any of you fancy buying this one, it will cost just USD600K:)? Beats all your Range Rovers by a large margin.:)
A 'production' car where the only moving images of it are all computer renders. Hmmm...
Sorry, but you are wrong. What you see there are working prototypes, not production vehicles. Look at the claimed production models, see how different they are to the flying prototypes in the second video?
Notice how the video you shared to support your claim is older than the video you first shared?
There's no doubt that this company has made little helicopter/autogyros but they are not working automobiles and they sure as shit are not approved for use on any public road.
But I guess that if you had the cash you'd be happy to 'pre-order' something with your hard earned money?
I guess some people are just easily fooled, eh?
I am not as rich as you. $400k purchase cost does not signify a large market for a personal transport device. Rich people like you have a different perspective from the rest of us.
:'(
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
The man who knows everything and has a friend in all environments for any situation. :whist11:
You forgot where said person is always the exact opposite of the general consensus. If the sky is red moby will find someone claiming it to be mauve.
Why, Why, WHY do folks feel the need for Tonka toys?
A normal hot hatch blows the doors off 'em in a straight lime and DEFO around corners
You must know about the benefits associated with commercial vehicles??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonka
I suspect Moby has a fleet of trucks ~ and he has found a way not to pay any taxes.
Of course Moby has a fleet of trucks - he plays with them every day in the kitchen.
:) Didn't you say you are very rich? The price will be going down if there is massive production and adoption.
:) Didn't you say you are very rich? The price will be going down if there is massive production and adoption.
No, I have never said that I am very rich. I have been saying that you act like a poor person though. Your envy, your attitude toward money and how money can be used, your attitude toward people who do have a little money; all these things are about how you think and they are, in my opinion, indicative of how poor people often, but always, think and appear to those around them.
The attitudes we have shape our possibilities.
As those who know me a little know, there have been times in my life when I have been genuinely poor, times when I have not known where my next meal would come from, times when I could not afford to be a part of normal society.
There are times in my life when I have had a state of mind that was not a million miles from that which you show us.
Your attitudes, your state of mind, are holding you back. No matter where you are right now, you can do better, get more from life, but you need to shift the way that you look at the world.
The chances are that you are not as skint as your attitudes transmit to the rest of us. The mind can be a prison, it can hold us back, reduce our capabilities, our ability to make the most of life. You can change that, but first comes a recognition of what is holding us back.
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Oh, another thing, even if the price of such a device as that you shared with us came down, which is pretty unlikely given the requirements of such devices, it would still be too costly to buy and use as personal transport. For example, it might be possible that a wealthy person with time on their hands and the requisite abilities might be able to buy such a device and take the training and obtain licensing to fly and drive such a thing but the cost of external infrastructure would mean that it could not become a mass personal transportation device. Imagine the cost of infrastructure and services required to support the mass use of thousands, or millions, of these in the air at one time.
Those limitations will keep the prices of flying cars always too high to be commonly used and so nobody will work to make the price low enough that they could have mass market appeal, they will never cross the chasm from niche to mass market.
As a related example: personal drones used by hobbyists and in commercial use. A few years ago, when such devices were rare there was almost no limitation upon their use. No training or licensing needed, although responsible people made sure they did learn how to use these devices properly and safely.
Today, with drones on sale everywhere, there are increasing limitations upon their use. Ultimately, I expect that restrictions will become onerous enough that drones will pretty much disappear from mass use.
Some things are perfectly OK to use when only a few people use them, but mass use changes completely the way in which they can be used.
:) Didn't you say you are very rich? The price will be going down if there is massive production and adoption.
No, I have never said that I am very rich. I have been saying that you act like a poor person though. Your envy, your attitude toward money and how money can be used, your attitude toward people who do have a little money; all these things are about how you think and they are, in my opinion, indicative of how poor people often, but always, think and appear to those around them.
The attitudes we have shape our possibilities.
As those who know me a little know, there have been times in my life when I have been genuinely poor, times when I have not known where my next meal would come from, times when I could not afford to be a part of normal society.
There are times in my life when I have had a state of mind that was not a million miles from that which you show us.
Your attitudes, your state of mind, are holding you back. No matter where you are right now, you can do better, get more from life, but you need to shift the way that you look at the world.
The chances are that you are not as skint as your attitudes transmit to the rest of us. The mind can be a prison, it can hold us back, reduce our capabilities, our ability to make the most of life. You can change that, but first comes a recognition of what is holding us back.
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Oh, another thing, even if the price of such a device as that you shared with us came down, which is pretty unlikely given the requirements of such devices, it would still be too costly to buy and use as personal transport. For example, it might be possible that a wealthy person with time on their hands and the requisite abilities might be able to buy such a device and take the training and obtain licensing to fly and drive such a thing but the cost of external infrastructure would mean that it could not become a mass personal transportation device. Imagine the cost of infrastructure and services required to support the mass use of thousands, or millions, of these in the air at one time.
Those limitations will keep the prices of flying cars always too high to be commonly used and so nobody will work to make the price low enough that they could have mass market appeal, they will never cross the chasm from niche to mass market.
As a related example: personal drones used by hobbyists and in commercial use. A few years ago, when such devices were rare there was almost no limitation upon their use. No training or licensing needed, although responsible people made sure they did learn how to use these devices properly and safely.
Today, with drones on sale everywhere, there are increasing limitations upon their use. Ultimately, I expect that restrictions will become onerous enough that drones will pretty much disappear from mass use.
Some things are perfectly OK to use when only a few people use them, but mass use changes completely the way in which they can be used.
Any of you fancy buying this one, it will cost just USD600K:)? Beats all your Range Rovers by a large margin.:)
A 'production' car where the only moving images of it are all computer renders. Hmmm...
Well, it is real:)
The technology is developing, and not just in Netherlands, watch this one:
The RRs are pure (silly) indulgence
The RRs are pure (silly) indulgence
I suppose you and Corbyn would rather see everyone in a Prius. Or better still in plastic shoes travelling on the bus reading the Guardian. The angst of Guardianistas like you is a bloody superb reason to have a couple of them. I like looking at your sniffy, peevish little faces as you peer up at me from behind the wheel of your shitty little electric and/or sub 1000cc euro boxes or through the steamed up window on the bus. I'm trying to perfect my Alan B'Stard sneer for just those occasions.
The RRs are pure (silly) indulgence
I suppose you and Corbyn would rather see everyone in a Prius. Or better still in plastic shoes travelling on the bus reading the Guardian. The angst of Guardianistas like you is a bloody superb reason to have a couple of them. I like looking at your sniffy, peevish little faces as you peer up at me from behind the wheel of your shitty little electric and/or sub 1000cc euro boxes or through the steamed up window on the bus. I'm trying to perfect my Alan B'Stard sneer for just those occasions.
You forgot where said person is always the exact opposite of the general consensus. If the sky is red moby will find someone claiming it to be mauve.
In other news, wifey dropped a couple of grand on a new fur coat in Russia today as the Rouble is about 85/£.
Your "crash" isnt bad news for everyone. :rouble-smile:
In other news, wifey dropped a couple of grand on a new fur coat in Russia today as the Rouble is about 85/£.
Your "crash" isnt bad news for everyone. :rouble-smile:
Of course Moby has a fleet of trucks - he plays with them every day in the kitchen.
I suppose you and Corbyn would rather see everyone in a Prius. .... I like looking at your sniffy, peevish little faces as you peer up at me from behind the wheel of your shitty little electric and/or sub 1000cc euro boxes or through the steamed up window on the bus. I'm trying to perfect my Alan B'Stard sneer for just those occasions.
What does repeating yourself mean?
to say or write the same words or idea that you said before, often without realizing that you are doing it. Sally sometimes becomes confused and repeats herself. To say something again, or to repeat someone else's words:repeat, paraphrase, quote...
https://bottomlineinc.com/health/alzheimers/early-symptoms-of-alzheimers-disease
http://www.bhevolution.org/public/anxiety_disorders.page
I think Jack needs to go to the doctor fast he's been repeating himself for well over a decade now..
What does repeating yourself mean?
to say or write the same words or idea that you said before, often without realizing that you are doing it. Sally sometimes becomes confused and repeats herself. To say something again, or to repeat someone else's words:repeat, paraphrase, quote...
https://bottomlineinc.com/health/alzheimers/early-symptoms-of-alzheimers-disease
http://www.bhevolution.org/public/anxiety_disorders.page
I think Jack needs to go to the doctor fast he's been repeating himself for well over a decade now..
It is not the same idea, I have offered solid, verifiable facts + a link. And I actually agreed with Manny's point. I see his valid points and agree with them, the time is ripe for him to see my valid points and agree with them too.:)
What does repeating yourself mean?
to say or write the same words or idea that you said before, often without realizing that you are doing it. Sally sometimes becomes confused and repeats herself. To say something again, or to repeat someone else's words:repeat, paraphrase, quote...
https://bottomlineinc.com/health/alzheimers/early-symptoms-of-alzheimers-disease
http://www.bhevolution.org/public/anxiety_disorders.page
I think Jack needs to go to the doctor fast he's been repeating himself for well over a decade now..
It is not the same idea, I have offered solid, verifiable facts + a link. And I actually agreed with Manny's point. I see his valid points and agree with them, the time is ripe for him to see my valid points and agree with them too.:)
You need to go see a doctor you have serious problems...repeating yourself day after day her every where else .. you must have some disorder..
It doesn't really matter to you who will be in power, who will be your president.. cos one things for sure you will never be working like everyone else.. you will still be going around as jack the lad of the neighbourhood for ever.. ducking and diving ...
What does repeating yourself mean?
to say or write the same words or idea that you said before, often without realizing that you are doing it. Sally sometimes becomes confused and repeats herself. To say something again, or to repeat someone else's words:repeat, paraphrase, quote...
https://bottomlineinc.com/health/alzheimers/early-symptoms-of-alzheimers-disease
http://www.bhevolution.org/public/anxiety_disorders.page
I think Jack needs to go to the doctor fast he's been repeating himself for well over a decade now..
It is not the same idea, I have offered solid, verifiable facts + a link. And I actually agreed with Manny's point. I see his valid points and agree with them, the time is ripe for him to see my valid points and agree with them too.:)
You need to go see a doctor you have serious problems...repeating yourself day after day her every where else .. you must have some disorder..
It doesn't really matter to you who will be in power, who will be your president.. cos one things for sure you will never be working like everyone else.. you will still be going around as jack the lad of the neighbourhood for ever.. ducking and diving ...
You better make up your mind - I pinch my cash for living from my daddy's pockets while he is asleep or I go around my neighborhood, duck and dive around and get paid for the activity. I have University education here in Russia + the US education, one may imagine it is worth some rubles even in Putin's Russia. I have suggested it 100 times already, I would like to suggest it again - there is no need to be worried about my health, my living conditions, my income and so forth.
Blimey my wife brought hers in Moscow for $1000 in the sales.. never saw any for a few grand..
Blimey my wife brought hers in Moscow for $1000 in the sales.. never saw any for a few grand..
You dont get so much in the way of a decent fur coat for $1000. Thats kind of entry level.
Ok, let it be, I won a lottery. So, Manny, I have agreed with the point you made, you disagree with mine?
Ok, let it be, I won a lottery. So, Manny, I have agreed with the point you made, you disagree with mine?
Is there one particular point you allude to in the last 40 pages? You may have to point it out again.
If it is the general self-hate, Russia is going down the toilet, nobody has savings, bread queues, doom and gloom, Putin bad, dollars good, god save America et al, then no, I dont agree with any of that. Your world is not everyone's world.
Seasoned, all the time you are negative and envious, comparing your poor country with others by inference. Does it help you to know that the savings rate in the United States is almost identical to Russia?
Don't blame externalities for everything. You are fortunate, you live in a country with very low taxes, a high rate if growth and a myriad of opportunities.
Grow up. Start a life.
Seasoned, all the time you are negative and envious, comparing your poor country with others by inference. Does it help you to know that the savings rate in the United States is almost identical to Russia?Are you sure you got your facts right? I am reading about 20% - https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/financial-security-0318/ 20% and 63% - a huge three times difference! It was a side point though, my main point was about how many Russians benefit from the crumbling ruble. I am happy for Manny's wife, but how many Russians have direct access to hard currency sources to share this joy?
Don't blame externalities for everything. You are fortunate, you live in a country with very low taxes, a high rate if growth and a myriad of opportunities.
Grow up. Start a life.
My point was - only like 3-5% of the Russians may be benefiting from the crumbling ruble,
P.S. And I didn't say nobody has savings, I said 70% of the Russians don't - according to the official Russian statistics.
by posting the same pic 10000 times (it will be posted again in 5-4-3-2-1-Go).
Seasoned, it is worth noting that your use of the number 70 is to exaggerate to the point of dishonesty the real number which is 63.8.
If you choose to round the number you might reasonably use 60, 65 or 64. Your choice given the ease with which you could've use the correct number suggests a choice to mislead your audience.
Why do you need to be dishonest with us?
Seasoned, all the time you are negative and envious, comparing your poor country with others by inference. Does it help you to know that the savings rate in the United States is almost identical to Russia?Are you sure you got your facts right? I am reading about 20% - https://www.bankrate.com/banking/savings/financial-security-0318/ 20% and 63% - a huge three times difference! It was a side point though, my main point was about how many Russians benefit from the crumbling ruble. I am happy for Manny's wife, but how many Russians have direct access to hard currency sources to share this joy?
Don't blame externalities for everything. You are fortunate, you live in a country with very low taxes, a high rate if growth and a myriad of opportunities.
Grow up. Start a life.
You may regret the day putin retires and you get another president. Russia as a country needs a strong leader and i see onlybidiots in line of replacing putin. This to me is most disheartening. Perhaps you will be happy if zhirinovsky becomes prez.
Seasoned, it is worth noting that your use of the number 70 is to exaggerate to the point of dishonesty the real number which is 63.8.
If you choose to round the number you might reasonably use 60, 65 or 64. Your choice given the ease with which you could've use the correct number suggests a choice to mislead your audience.
Why do you need to be dishonest with us?
Jack is completely oblivious to what is going on around him..he's wasted his university education unlike many he's still at living with his parents nearly middle aged and with nothing not even a bicycle ..while he's complaining which he has been doing for well over a decade now most other people have done something with their lives..
Jack sees what he wants to see.. what ever you want to see or search in the internet you will find, If I wanted to search and find out most people in the UK were gay I would probably find that..Jack sees people with nothing because they are the people Jack associates with..when I knew jack the lad his local bars were the bars full of old men in their 60's semi drunk ..so Jack sees the people with no bank accounts , no money and drinking themselves to death..
Jack is just Jack... and another decade in time Jack will still be repeating himself..
Hes clueless about life, work, business.. just what he reads in the internet whist sat in his bedroom..
Get a life jack before its to late and you just land up as one of those drunken looser..
Jack is completely oblivious to what is going on around him..he's wasted his university education unlike many he's still at living with his parents nearly middle aged and with nothing not even a bicycle ..while he's complaining which he has been doing for well over a decade now most other people have done something with their lives..
Jack sees what he wants to see.. what ever you want to see or search in the internet you will find, If I wanted to search and find out most people in the UK were gay I would probably find that..Jack sees people with nothing because they are the people Jack associates with..when I knew jack the lad his local bars were the bars full of old men in their 60's semi drunk ..so Jack sees the people with no bank accounts , no money and drinking themselves to death..
Jack is just Jack... and another decade in time Jack will still be repeating himself..
Hes clueless about life, work, business.. just what he reads in the internet whist sat in his bedroom..
Get a life jack before its to late and you just land up as one of those drunken looser..
I have posted the official stats, not some random Internet numbers. Do you live in your own apartment like I do or you rent? I actually move between places, the new apartment we purchased requires some remont. It is just one metro station away from where I live so I still don't need a car for this. I lived in a hotel for eight years in a different city, I even lived in the US and every now and then I travel to various cities for work. Again, my personal situation has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
Jack is completely oblivious to what is going on around him..he's wasted his university education unlike many he's still at living with his parents nearly middle aged and with nothing not even a bicycle ..while he's complaining which he has been doing for well over a decade now most other people have done something with their lives..
Jack sees what he wants to see.. what ever you want to see or search in the internet you will find, If I wanted to search and find out most people in the UK were gay I would probably find that..Jack sees people with nothing because they are the people Jack associates with..when I knew jack the lad his local bars were the bars full of old men in their 60's semi drunk ..so Jack sees the people with no bank accounts , no money and drinking themselves to death..
Jack is just Jack... and another decade in time Jack will still be repeating himself..
Hes clueless about life, work, business.. just what he reads in the internet whist sat in his bedroom..
Get a life jack before its to late and you just land up as one of those drunken looser..
I have posted the official stats, not some random Internet numbers. Do you live in your own apartment like I do or you rent? I actually move between places, the new apartment we purchased requires some remont. It is just one metro station away from where I live so I still don't need a car for this. I lived in a hotel for eight years in a different city, I even lived in the US and every now and then I travel to various cities for work. Again, my personal situation has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
I would check what you have been saying in this thread about apartment ownership..and how only fools buy apartments which will look like slums in a few years. Dementia setting in already?
Aaa sorry its jack the lad with more fantasies and stories.. :laugh:
Jack is completely oblivious to what is going on around him..he's wasted his university education unlike many he's still at living with his parents nearly middle aged and with nothing not even a bicycle ..while he's complaining which he has been doing for well over a decade now most other people have done something with their lives..
Jack sees what he wants to see.. what ever you want to see or search in the internet you will find, If I wanted to search and find out most people in the UK were gay I would probably find that..Jack sees people with nothing because they are the people Jack associates with..when I knew jack the lad his local bars were the bars full of old men in their 60's semi drunk ..so Jack sees the people with no bank accounts , no money and drinking themselves to death..
Jack is just Jack... and another decade in time Jack will still be repeating himself..
Hes clueless about life, work, business.. just what he reads in the internet whist sat in his bedroom..
Get a life jack before its to late and you just land up as one of those drunken looser..
I have posted the official stats, not some random Internet numbers. Do you live in your own apartment like I do or you rent? I actually move between places, the new apartment we purchased requires some remont. It is just one metro station away from where I live so I still don't need a car for this. I lived in a hotel for eight years in a different city, I even lived in the US and every now and then I travel to various cities for work. Again, my personal situation has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
I would check what you have been saying in this thread about apartment ownership..and how only fools buy apartments which will look like slums in a few years. Dementia setting in already?
Aaa sorry its jack the lad with more fantasies and stories.. :laugh:
I am not excited about all those apartments indeed and I want to move to a warmer climate, at least temporarily. Am considering Cancun, Mexico as an option.
Jack is completely oblivious to what is going on around him..he's wasted his university education unlike many he's still at living with his parents nearly middle aged and with nothing not even a bicycle ..while he's complaining which he has been doing for well over a decade now most other people have done something with their lives..
Jack sees what he wants to see.. what ever you want to see or search in the internet you will find, If I wanted to search and find out most people in the UK were gay I would probably find that..Jack sees people with nothing because they are the people Jack associates with..when I knew jack the lad his local bars were the bars full of old men in their 60's semi drunk ..so Jack sees the people with no bank accounts , no money and drinking themselves to death..
Jack is just Jack... and another decade in time Jack will still be repeating himself..
Hes clueless about life, work, business.. just what he reads in the internet whist sat in his bedroom..
Get a life jack before its to late and you just land up as one of those drunken looser..
I have posted the official stats, not some random Internet numbers. Do you live in your own apartment like I do or you rent? I actually move between places, the new apartment we purchased requires some remont. It is just one metro station away from where I live so I still don't need a car for this. I lived in a hotel for eight years in a different city, I even lived in the US and every now and then I travel to various cities for work. Again, my personal situation has nothing to do with what we are discussing.
I would check what you have been saying in this thread about apartment ownership..and how only fools buy apartments which will look like slums in a few years. Dementia setting in already?
Aaa sorry its jack the lad with more fantasies and stories.. :laugh:
I am not excited about all those apartments indeed and I want to move to a warmer climate, at least temporarily. Am considering Cancun, Mexico as an option.
If I remember you wanted to move to Thailand with me and run a business .. But I never fancied working 24/7 while you slept most of the day..
Your never going to be in a position to move to a warmer climate because unfortunately moving to another country involves lots of work.. you know the usual stuff getting up in the morning, and of course you will have responsibilities like Gas . electric. water and other things, all that stuff will give you nightmares.. :laugh:
I would suggest you think about moving to the Middle East , they do nothing in that part of the world other than sitting down smoking ..get your self a camel..
No, you didn't post 'official stats' don't try to pretend you did. You chose to mislead your readers by posting a number that you made up because you thought it looked better than the reality.
The sad thing is that in doing so you showed us, again, exactly where you are coming from. You assume that you have the worst of all worlds, that we have much more and better than you because of where we live. Truth is that there's not much difference except to the degree that Russian society offers the opportunity to do well for yourself as the economy grows and reorients.
You live in a mental prison. You choose to be there. Get out, take part in society. Envy is not a positive attribute.
Chao for now, boys.
Chao for now, boys.
Perhaps you wanted to write 'Ciao' ~ It is a pity you will not engage in reasonable exchanges.
Your addio is though more agreeable to Moby 'style'.
Ok, let it be, I won a lottery. So, Manny, I have agreed with the point you made, you disagree with mine?
Is there one particular point you allude to in the last 40 pages? You may have to point it out again.
If it is the general self-hate, Russia is going down the toilet, nobody has savings, bread queues, doom and gloom, Putin bad, dollars good, god save America et al, then no, I dont agree with any of that. Your world is not everyone's world. Go and look through the window of the Bentley dealer in Gelsingforsskaya Str near you to see what I mean.
I disagree with others that Audrey doesn’t love his country— I believe he does and he’s certainly got a lot of courage to express his opinions with this crowd.
1 euro costs 100 rubles
See you then ... :thumbsup:
Let us assume sarcasm, but it is unlikely that 1 € will cost 100 ₽ any time soon. I suspect you wanted to state 1 € will give you 100 ₽, will this happen, my guess no. The highest or lowest (depending on perspective) the Rouble has been is around 1 € to +/-85 ₽, this was when oil was at its lowest price in the last ten years.
Have a great life Seasoned. I hope that you find a way to have your own home and some dreams of your own that are a little more positive than the nightmares that seem to be your lot. Just remember, you are in control of your destiny.
One day a bank might trust you with a credit card. I hope so.
Have a great life Seasoned. I hope that you find a way to have your own home and some dreams of your own that are a little more positive than the nightmares that seem to be your lot. Just remember, you are in control of your destiny.
One day a bank might trust you with a credit card. I hope so.
The 'forum intellectual' still behaving like a petulant bully when dealing with folk who know more about life in Russia than he ever could ?
Moby, I don't know if you are aware of the following: the UK pound sterling and the euro are not the same thing. For this reason they have different exchange rates against each other and other currencies.
:'(
Moby, I don't know if you are aware of the following: the UK pound sterling and the euro are not the same thing. For this reason they have different exchange rates against each other and other currencies.
:'(
More than happy to concede I was inattentive and crap eyesight
You should try acknowledging your ( frequent ) errors, too - that IS honesty ...
Moby, I don't know if you are aware of the following: the UK pound sterling and the euro are not the same thing. For this reason they have different exchange rates against each other and other currencies.
:'(
More than happy to concede I was inattentive and crap eyesight
You should try acknowledging your ( frequent ) errors, too - that IS honesty ...
Moby, I don't know if you are aware of the following: the UK pound sterling and the euro are not the same thing. For this reason they have different exchange rates against each other and other currencies.
:'(
More than happy to concede I was inattentive and crap eyesight
You should try acknowledging your ( frequent ) errors, too - that IS honesty ...
Moby has acquired the typical reply of all Russian women, when you point out a mistake or dare to criticize them!
More Moby dishonesty.
Moby has acquired the typical reply of all Russian women, when you point out a mistake or dare to criticize them!
It's criticise in UK English and if you cannot understand "More than happy to concede I was inattentive and crap eyesight " ... back to school, for you..
"You should try acknowledging your ( frequent ) errors, too "[/i]
For your information Crimea was discovered and became a Greek Colony before the Roman Empire and its name was/is "Tavrida"For what it is worth the Krim was not discovered by the Greeks it has had civilizations living there before. But the Greek influence is clear to see even today. There are Turkish influences also evident.[/font][/size]
Yevpatoria was founded 2500 B.C. Thats a looooooong time ago. I took an interest in the city history after I came across a dig-site in the open street , i think it was close to pushkin ulitsa.
They explained everything there on a plaque whilst it was behind glass to protect it from the elements. Quite nice to read it all.
Care to guess what the name is of a party boat you can book for 1,5 or 2,5 hour cruises from its docks? It doesn't go anywhere, just takes on passengers and stays out at sea for 1,5 hours (to the other dock) and then back to the first dock in 1 hour more.
It is a fun experience because it goes out to sea really far and you can feel the movement of the sea and you can actually get seasick on it :king:
Mark, Will not take you as crew except on Loosdrecht. :laugh:
The Krim has been inhabited for donkeys ages, but it was a principal outpost of the Greek city states in early antiquity. In fact there is a treaty that I think gives some claim to Greece to its sovereignty signed in I think the 19th century.
I think the history line goes Crimerians > Scythian's (those gold objects stuck in Amsterdam) > Tartar's > Greek's > Turk's > Greeks > and so on to Russian's > Ukrainians > Russian's. One needs to add German's Roman's, French and some Persians along the way.
It is something for Wiz to explain or he can do a copy and paste!