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Title: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 05, 2017, 05:53:45 AM
I'm trying to plan multiple trips for over the next 6 months consisting of Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv, I'll be in each city for up to a week however I'm stumped on which hotel would be best for each city and top tips for bars and restaurants especially. I know what attractions I want to see while I'm each city, just the food and beverage options allude me (:)

In Moscow I was previously booked into the Hilton Leningradskaya however for this trip I'd like to be closer to the centre and in a more modern hotel such as the Four Seasons only without the price tag! Is the InterContinental Tverskaya the best option? Bar wise, I've no clue where would be best, I prefer upscale bars and for restaurants, Café Pushkin and White Rabbit are the only two I've got absolutely nailed down.

In St. Petersburg I've no clue aside from attractions I want to visit, I'm quite partial to the Corinthia as I saw it on Мажор but that's because I'm a capitalist slave, easily influenced by advertising :ROFL: fully open to suggestions on bars, restaurants and the like.

In Kyiv, the Hilton is the best hotel available from the looks of it (ridiculously priced however) and I recall D*Lux being the hangout of anyone worth their salt however it's been 5 years since I was last there and a lot has changed in Kyiv since then so I have no clue what's open and what's good.

I'm sure that I'll get suggestions for AirBnB however I prefer hotels, stupid as I spend my life in hotels for work but I suppose it's what I'm used to?

Looking forward to the suggestions! :party0031:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: AvHdB on August 05, 2017, 06:25:20 AM
You do not want a hotel in any of the three cities you note.

Take an apartment, yes you will pay more than the locals would but it will be less expensieve than a hotel and more flexible to boot.
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 05, 2017, 12:55:24 PM
You do not want a hotel in any of the three cities you note.

Take an apartment, yes you will pay more than the locals would but it will be less expensieve than a hotel and more flexible to boot.
I have actually just checked out AirBnB, wow, whole flats for £60/night near centre of Moscow and even less in Kyiv, I may seriously consider these as an option as it'll cut costs in half or in Kyiv's case, two thirds!
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 10, 2017, 01:05:45 PM
Does anyone have any up to date information on the best bars and clubs in Moscow, similar to the likes of Annabel's, Cirque le Soir, DSTRKT and Libertine in London as everything is out of date online as far as I can tell. I'm also looking for Kyiv and L'viv as I've been invited out during my Moscow trip :smokin:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Steveboy on August 10, 2017, 01:38:17 PM
Does anyone have any up to date information on the best bars and clubs in Moscow, similar to the likes of Annabel's, Cirque le Soir, DSTRKT and Libertine in London as everything is out of date online as far as I can tell. I'm also looking for Kyiv and L'viv as I've been invited out during my Moscow trip :smokin:

Probably one of the best in Moscow is Soho rooms but I think it closed down a little while back.. Are you sure you can afford the BEST club in Moscow? I presume you will be taking some lady and Moscow women who frequent the BEST clubs in Moscow will probably expect you to book an exclusive table for the pair of you , not sure what the price will be about $500 min I expect, those women do not come cheap just wait till you get the drinks bill, especially if a couple of her friends turn up.. :laugh:

You do not need to go to the best clubs to meet the best women, many women who go to the best clubs may look like a queen in the evening, but when you wake up with her in the morning it might not be so nice with her make up smudged and the pot holes showing..
You can find just as nice women at any normal club and they will not bankrupt you..or take any women to a normal club, if a normal club is to far down her social scale you best dump her any way..

Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 10, 2017, 02:12:31 PM
Probably one of the best in Moscow is Soho rooms but I think it closed down a little while back.. Are you sure you can afford the BEST club in Moscow? I presume you will be taking some lady and Moscow women who frequent the BEST clubs in Moscow will probably expect you to book an exclusive table for the pair of you , not sure what the price will be about $500 min I expect, those women do not come cheap just wait till you get the drinks bill, especially if a couple of her friends turn up.. :laugh:

You do not need to go to the best clubs to meet the best women, many women who go to the best clubs may look like a queen in the evening, but when you wake up with her in the morning it might not be so nice with her make up smudged and the pot holes showing..

You can find just as nice women at any normal club and they will not bankrupt you..or take any women to a normal club, if a normal club is to far down her social scale you best dump her any way..
$500 is roughly £385, a table at DSTRKT is £750 ($974) whereas Libertine is £1k ($1,3k), while I'll admit that I don't foot the entire bill for these tables when I go as I'm usually with at least two lady friends (otherwise you don't get in) and the bill is split.

For me the clubs aren't about meeting women, stupid as that sounds but I enjoy the high end clubs as the experience is unrivalled I've found as women aside, the experience of not being in a sweaty box filled with guys groping women or people getting too drunk far outweighs the cost or is it so different in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kyiv etc that I don't have to worry about that as much?
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Steveboy on August 10, 2017, 02:29:30 PM
Probably one of the best in Moscow is Soho rooms but I think it closed down a little while back.. Are you sure you can afford the BEST club in Moscow? I presume you will be taking some lady and Moscow women who frequent the BEST clubs in Moscow will probably expect you to book an exclusive table for the pair of you , not sure what the price will be about $500 min I expect, those women do not come cheap just wait till you get the drinks bill, especially if a couple of her friends turn up.. :laugh:

You do not need to go to the best clubs to meet the best women, many women who go to the best clubs may look like a queen in the evening, but when you wake up with her in the morning it might not be so nice with her make up smudged and the pot holes showing..

You can find just as nice women at any normal club and they will not bankrupt you..or take any women to a normal club, if a normal club is to far down her social scale you best dump her any way..
$500 is roughly £385, a table at DSTRKT is £750 ($974) whereas Libertine is £1k ($1,3k), while I'll admit that I don't foot the entire bill for these tables when I go as I'm usually with at least two lady friends (otherwise you don't get in) and the bill is split.

For me the clubs aren't about meeting women, stupid as that sounds but I enjoy the high end clubs as the experience is unrivalled I've found as women aside, the experience of not being in a sweaty box filled with guys groping women or people getting too drunk far outweighs the cost or is it so different in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kyiv etc that I don't have to worry about that as much?


Oooo that sounds ok i will come out for a drink next time then with you...BUT I aint paying for the table!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 10, 2017, 02:39:35 PM
Oooo that sounds ok i will come out for a drink next time then with you...BUT I aint paying for the table!! :laugh:
Ha, men pay, men always pay so you'd be paying :ROFL:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Steveboy on August 10, 2017, 02:45:09 PM
Oooo that sounds ok i will come out for a drink next time then with you...BUT I aint paying for the table!! :laugh:
Ha, men pay, men always pay so you'd be paying :ROFL:

Net Denyeg.... :chuckle:  Im just a poor English man from the country side!! :ROFL:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Poldark on August 10, 2017, 03:06:41 PM
Net Denyeg.... :chuckle:  Im just a poor English man from the country side!! :ROFL:
Нет денег means no money right? (you spelt it differently phonetically so not sure).

Sure you're a poor Englishman from the countryside, you were able to go to Russia and fulfil your aspirations or did that tap out your wallet? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Steveboy on August 11, 2017, 04:03:13 AM
Probably one of the best in Moscow is Soho rooms but I think it closed down a little while back.. Are you sure you can afford the BEST club in Moscow? I presume you will be taking some lady and Moscow women who frequent the BEST clubs in Moscow will probably expect you to book an exclusive table for the pair of you , not sure what the price will be about $500 min I expect, those women do not come cheap just wait till you get the drinks bill, especially if a couple of her friends turn up.. :laugh:

You do not need to go to the best clubs to meet the best women, many women who go to the best clubs may look like a queen in the evening, but when you wake up with her in the morning it might not be so nice with her make up smudged and the pot holes showing..

You can find just as nice women at any normal club and they will not bankrupt you..or take any women to a normal club, if a normal club is to far down her social scale you best dump her any way..
$500 is roughly £385, a table at DSTRKT is £750 ($974) whereas Libertine is £1k ($1,3k), while I'll admit that I don't foot the entire bill for these tables when I go as I'm usually with at least two lady friends (otherwise you don't get in) and the bill is split.

For me the clubs aren't about meeting women, stupid as that sounds but I enjoy the high end clubs as the experience is unrivalled I've found as women aside, the experience of not being in a sweaty box filled with guys groping women or people getting too drunk far outweighs the cost or is it so different in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kyiv etc that I don't have to worry about that as much?

You can try here ...  http://www.moscowclubs.com/table-bookings/
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Volshe on August 11, 2017, 05:20:39 AM
Net Denyeg.... :chuckle:  Im just a poor English man from the country side!! :ROFL:
Нет денег means no money right? (you spelt it differently phonetically so not sure).

Sure you're a poor Englishman from the countryside, you were able to go to Russia and fulfil your aspirations or did that tap out your wallet? :chuckle:

That, or he learned the art of прибедняться ( oftentimes a necessary survival mimicry technique for a foreigner ;))
Title: Re: Moscow - St. Petersburg - Kyiv; Hotels, Bars and Restaurants?
Post by: Steveboy on November 14, 2017, 12:36:25 AM
Net Denyeg.... :chuckle:  Im just a poor English man from the country side!! :ROFL:
Нет денег means no money right? (you spelt it differently phonetically so not sure).

Sure you're a poor Englishman from the countryside, you were able to go to Russia and fulfil your aspirations or did that tap out your wallet? :chuckle:

No I was just a poor English man from rural England..spent many a night in the train station sleeping on the bench being prodded by the police man if I fell to sleep.. then up for a wash and shave in the public toilet the list is endless.. :ROFL: :hidechair: