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Title: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 04, 2016, 08:31:00 AM
Hey all, havent posted in awhile but am back to try and help out my sister in law, and maybe one of you fine gents by default find yourselves a nice girl.  First a rundown on me. used the site awhile back, learned a TON about what to do and what not to do.  We had ourselves an amazing 2 week trip in Kiev, St Pete, and Moscow.  We have a few problems like most other people but we love each other and can work through it.  Been married 3.5 years and still going strong, so dont let anyone tell you that this can't work anymore.  there ARE success stories and I am one of them, and I dont think i would have been as successful without reading up on here first.  Probly would have done the anastasiadate thing and fell on my face without the research done here.

SO i guess I want to kind of pay it forward and help someone else who is now part of my family now through marriage.  I am trying to find a nice guy for my sister's wife: Indira.  Indira is from Tashkent, Uzbekistan.  She is Muslim, but very liberal about it, you wont need to convert or accomodate too much, if at all (i didnt have to with mine).  Im so committed to the process I just mailed her a tablet she should be getting in the next few weeks so she can skype and video and all that other stuff.  She currently does have an EM account but cant access it much because she doesnt have a computer.  Currently she has viber, whats app, that sort of thing.  She does not have much money and can barely afford her rent,  but good lord is she beautiful.  She is 26 years old and trying to start her new career as a teacher (as youll see pics below).  I can vouch 1000 percent her intentions are sincere and you wont be scammed by her.  She is trying to find a guy overseas seeing how successful it was for me and my wife (Malika).  Obviously her biggest disadvantage would be the language thing, but if I can push through it as family and a friend, I am sure a guy who is committed to the chase will not let that hinder him.  Pictures to follow.

Again, if you have any questions about her, about Uzbek women, feel free to hit me up here and I can give you a good run down on it.  Im not completely sure if this is the right place to post it but i know it is the area on the forum that gets the most exposure, so hopefully it can stay here.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 04, 2016, 08:31:59 AM
more pics.  that is all gents, hoping for the best
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: tonton on September 04, 2016, 08:38:53 AM
Best wishes for her finding an honest partner.

Too young for me, and besides, my Mrs would crack my head if she knew I was looking elsewhere lol
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Gipsy on September 04, 2016, 10:59:39 AM
Ditto, her who must be obeyed would have my goolies for breakfast...

She certainly is a lovely looking young lady...

Wish her and you the very best of luck ....
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 04, 2016, 03:59:44 PM
I met a Muslim woman from the Caucus region and while the relationship did not develop I found her both generous in spirit and a kind soul. I have met and spoken in length to some African Muslim women and the Euro-Asian are very different, in a good way.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Haventhrow on September 05, 2016, 01:15:31 AM
Do you have her profile number for EM? You can't search by name.
What is her max age for a husband...I am sure I am too old, but I have a cousin who is 45....nice looking guy, good job, recently divorced, 1 son age 12.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 05, 2016, 01:21:33 AM
I think when one is given the chance for direct contact with a woman, it might be a good idea to pursue that avenue,

If the Iceman vets your cousin than he might just be catching a keeper.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Haventhrow on September 05, 2016, 01:35:59 AM
Just wanted to try to get some info on her from her profile online....I am letting my cousin know to look at Rua.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 05, 2016, 10:23:13 PM
She is 26. "I am sure I am too old but my cousin is 45." I'm getting the creepy crawlies. There was a similar age gap between Dostoyevsky and his wife. But that was 150 years ago! Blimey!


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 05, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Jerash, until you get on airplane and visit the former Soviet Union your opinions have little value. As in both Europe and North America there are those who have rewarding and rich relationships where there is a large age difference.

Some of these relationships are between men from the West and Slavic women. Please you should neither judge or presume.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 05, 2016, 11:24:12 PM
Avhdb - have a look at my posts on this forum. I have been there. Multiple times. And planning to go again soon for a much longer stay.

One of the first things I remember taking away from this forum, is that a 15 year age difference is about the maximum for the possibility of a relationship truly working out. So don't be surprised that at 19 years age difference you are going to find people divided and on both sides of the fence. I would never judge a happy relationship with a 20 year age difference, but I won't be jumping up to support American men meeting their juniors by 20 years either hoping for marital bliss. Because it probably isn't going to happen.

We just have different views on this and I don't mean any disrespect to you.

I'm younger than the proposed gent and personally, 26 is too young for me. My personal view is it's too young for him too. That's my opinion.


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 05, 2016, 11:31:13 PM
Avhdb - have a look at my posts on this forum. I have been there. Multiple times. And planning to go again soon for a much longer stay.

One of the first things I remember taking away from this forum, is that a 15 year age difference is about the maximum for the possibility of a relationship truly working out. So don't be surprised that at 19 years age difference you are going to find people divided and on both sides of the fence. I would never judge a happy relationship with a 20 year age difference, but I won't be jumping up to support American men meeting their juniors by 20 years either hoping for marital bliss. Because it probably isn't going to happen.

We just have different views on this and I don't mean any disrespect to you.

I'm younger than the proposed gent and personally, 26 is too young for me. My personal view is it's too young for him too. That's my opinion.
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I can respect your view point.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: leslied on September 06, 2016, 01:35:03 AM

One of the first things I remember taking away from this forum, is that a 15 year age difference is about the maximum for the possibility of a relationship truly working out. So don't be surprised that at 19 years age difference you are going to find people divided and on both sides of the fence. I would never judge a happy relationship with a 20 year age difference, but I won't be jumping up to support American men meeting their juniors by 20 years either hoping for marital bliss. Because it probably isn't going to happen.


Put simply this viewpoint is complete and utter b*llshit.  You are entitled to hold your views but when yo utilize them to pass judgement on other people's lives I will call you to account.

My wife and I have a 20+year age difference.  We will celebrate 13 years of marriage later this month.  We have been dealing with the prejudice your comment embodies all our married lives.  The behemoth age difference thread on this site presents every prejudice imaginable.  Plain fact is this choice is down to the two people involved.  If they are happy, then what right have others to pass judgement on their decision?  None, in my opinion.

I can think of six other large age difference marriages that have lasted more than a dozen years.  One of which has a 31 year age difference...
 


Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Texan77 on September 06, 2016, 07:13:31 AM
 I think the hidden key in whether a big age gap will work or not is often the children. Then women's need to have them and the man's willingness, and ability to provide and care for them. If a man is already retirement age who is going to pay and emotional support  these unborn children while they go to college? Does the man have enough years left to raise the family he is wanting? If the couple does not have children and she has never had any what is her life going to be like when he is gone? My mother lived twenty years after my father died. If she did not have me and my brother it would not of been a good twenty years.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Boris on September 06, 2016, 07:23:47 AM
I think the hidden key in whether a big age gap will work or not is often the children. Then women's need to have them and the man's willingness, and ability to provide and care for them. If a man is already retirement age who is going to pay and emotional support  these unborn children while they go to college? Does the man have enough years left to raise the family he is wanting? If the couple does not have children and she has never had any what is her life going to be like when he is gone? My mother lived twenty years after my father died. If she did not have me and my brother it would not of been a good twenty years.

It is the big variable. We have friends here that split up over that question. Their age gape wasn't huge but she wanted to have kids and he apparently reneged. They are now divorced and it took no time before she was snapped up by someone her own age. The bottom line is if you marry a women from the FSU that doesn't have kids she is going to want one. There may be exceptions but I haven't met one yet.

If you are a 45 year old man and you marry the 26 year old women pictured above you better have your sh*t together because she will be pursued by younger men who do.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 06, 2016, 07:43:39 AM

One of the first things I remember taking away from this forum, is that a 15 year age difference is about the maximum for the possibility of a relationship truly working out. So don't be surprised that at 19 years age difference you are going to find people divided and on both sides of the fence. I would never judge a happy relationship with a 20 year age difference, but I won't be jumping up to support American men meeting their juniors by 20 years either hoping for marital bliss. Because it probably isn't going to happen.


Put simply this viewpoint is complete and utter b*llshit.  You are entitled to hold your views but when yo utilize them to pass judgement on other people's lives I will call you to account.

My wife and I have a 20+year age difference.  We will celebrate 13 years of marriage later this month.  We have been dealing with the prejudice your comment embodies all our married lives.  The behemoth age difference thread on this site presents every prejudice imaginable.  Plain fact is this choice is down to the two people involved.  If they are happy, then what right have others to pass judgement on their decision?  None, in my opinion.

I can think of six other large age difference marriages that have lasted more than a dozen years.  One of which has a 31 year age difference...

I'm really VERY and SINCERELY happy for you and your wife. I think it is great that you have a successful marriage and I say the same for the others you mentioned.

I pass no judgement on you not on anyone who is in a happy, mutually satisfying relationship with a significant age difference.

It's just my opinion that it would be hard for such a relationship to work out and so I wouldn't proactively encourage it. I'm not judging anyone's decisions; I just so happen to think that a happy, long-term union, is not the most likely wrong. And of course there are exceptions to this. And in my view, that's super as I wouldn't wish unhappiness upon anyone.


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: B.B. on September 06, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
She is 26. "I am sure I am too old but my cousin is 45." I'm getting the creepy crawlies. There was a similar age gap between Dostoyevsky and his wife. But that was 150 years ago! Blimey!

I think you are going to discover (and indeed, already have) that "age gap shaming" isn't particularly popular in these parts.

In my own view, if two people of whatever description and characteristics can find happiness together on this dump of a planet, the more power to them.

B/B
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 06, 2016, 06:26:52 PM
I appreciate the interest, she requested no more than 40.  But hey, if you are a dashing, swell guy with a boatload of personality, I say give it a whirl :p.  If you want to private message me like, uh, i guess you would on EM, with a few flattering pictures of yourself I can forward that her way and see what she thinks.  Cant hurt right?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 06, 2016, 06:28:19 PM
Do you have her profile number for EM? You can't search by name.
What is her max age for a husband...I am sure I am too old, but I have a cousin who is 45....nice looking guy, good job, recently divorced, 1 son age 12.

We tried to set up an EM profile, Im not sure she acesses it much.  Im hoping that changes when her tablet arrives.  If you got a few nice pictures of your cousin, tell me a bit about him i can relay that info, send it private message.  cant hurt

Edit: sorry, double post!  my bad
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Haventhrow on September 08, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Do you have her profile number for EM? You can't search by name.
What is her max age for a husband...I am sure I am too old, but I have a cousin who is 45....nice looking guy, good job, recently divorced, 1 son age 12.

I probably should have chosen my wording better, wasn't expecting to start a debate. I showed my cousin the site...he said she was gorgeous, but he was concerned about the age gap and religious differences. I'll tell him you said to send pictures and a short bio.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 10, 2016, 09:25:33 AM
Do you have her profile number for EM? You can't search by name.
What is her max age for a husband...I am sure I am too old, but I have a cousin who is 45....nice looking guy, good job, recently divorced, 1 son age 12.

I probably should have chosen my wording better, wasn't expecting to start a debate. I showed my cousin the site...he said she was gorgeous, but he was concerned about the age gap and religious differences. I'll tell him you said to send pictures and a short bio.

good stuff, he still interested or is the religious thing turning him off?

From first hand experience i can tell you I have had not needed to deviate my atheism at all :p.  When I drink she doesnt say a word.  When i forget to take my shoes off at the doorway however...........  :hidechair: :GRRRR:
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: andrewfi on September 10, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
Experience suggests that one god botherer and an atheist can get on well, as long as they understand that the relationship is not a place for proselytising. But when one has two people with different brands of god bothering preference then there's trouble.

Kinda like a person interested in politics can get on fine with a partner who has no interest, but when their political affiliations differ - watch the sparks fly. ;)
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Tripleg on September 10, 2016, 11:24:22 PM
Iceman, your sister in law is gorgeous, and has the type of exotic look that I really like! Unfortunately I am in agreement with a few other members around here when I say that the Muslim element does not help. Were she Orthodox Christian or agnostic i'd be the first one to send you an email asking for her contact info as I am not far from her age and successful :)
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Danchik on September 11, 2016, 04:19:54 AM
The muslims from the Stans (or Russia) are typically not like the muslims from the middle east, for example.

They tend to be much more flexible about things as mentioned by Iceman, who when last checked, is married to one.

The fact is that they are more stable, make better wives, and willing to go the long haul with someone than a Russian woman, generally speaking of course.

I have dated a few Russian muslims (Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, etc.) and found them to come in all shades, and even RW have admitted to me that they make better wives.

It's amazing to me that anyone would make judgments on someone they haven't met. I suggest arranging a meeting in some from, talk and see what happens. Only by getting to know someone can one discern whether they are compatible or not. You never know until you try, but one thing is for sure; if you think someone is not compatible before you even meet them, then they will for sure be just that.

Give it a go, and then decide instead of waving the white flag before even attempting to find out for sure. 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Omega1982 on September 11, 2016, 05:19:46 AM
Interesting perspective. 

What characteristics make them better wives? 

I could see them being more faithful due to the tabu associated with sex in their religion. 

What happened with the ones you dated that it did not work out in the end? 

I was told by a taxi driver in Moscow that to them their husband is like a God.  Not sure what to make of it. 

I have noticed some Russian women do have a bad attitude sometimes.  Not all, just some.  They can come off a bit harsh sometimes.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: leslied on September 11, 2016, 09:28:12 AM
Believers come in all gradations and that applies to Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc.

I know many people in UK who would state their religion as C of E but who haven't attended a church service in years!

Similarly I know Turkish people who say they are Muslims but drink alcohol and never observe Ramadan.

You are unlikely to have many issues with a Muslim who does not observe their religion strictly.  I know several Slavic women who are married to Turkish men, there are few problems with religion because both sides are relaxed about their beliefs.

People who follow their religion strictly are unlikely to consider a partner from another religion.  If they do then they are likely to insist on conversion to their religion.

Forget about feminism with most Muslim women.  They have been brought up to see men as the bosses.  They wait on their menfolk and do ALL the household chores.  My wife often comments on this insisting that I must help  ;D




Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 11, 2016, 11:15:41 AM
While I find the discussion interesting until one is willing to have the courage to get on plane and fly to Russia, the Stans or Ukraine to meet a woman the discussions and merits of a woman are academic.

Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: yankee on September 11, 2016, 01:39:51 PM
While I find the discussion interesting until one is willing to have the courage to get on plane and fly to Russia, the Stans or Ukraine to meet a woman the discussions and merits of a woman are academic.

Actually, we went to Italy then to Spain and then France before I went to Russia.  I did not go to Russia until we decided to get married.  After Russia she came to the US and spent the summer with me and again that year to celebrate Christmas and New Years.  The next time I traveled to Russia was to get married.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: rosco on September 12, 2016, 07:20:34 AM
Similarly I know Turkish people who say they are Muslims but drink alcohol and never observe Ramadan.

Some of the Glasgow muzzies crack me up. We drove down past Loch Lomond on a warm Sunday bank holiday weekend and Glasgow's finest spilled out the city and into the country. Along with the usual trash, we spotted numerous Asian blokes in shorts & T's carrying cases of lager whilst their fully Burka'd wives followed behind carrying the Bbq stuff.

I mean really?  :'(
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 12, 2016, 07:28:17 AM
Similarly I know Turkish people who say they are Muslims but drink alcohol and never observe Ramadan.

Some of the Glasgow muzzies crack me up. We drove down past Loch Lomond on a warm Sunday bank holiday weekend and Glasgow's finest spilled out the city and into the country. Along with the usual trash, we spotted numerous Asian blokes in shorts & T's carrying cases of lager whilst their fully Burka'd wives followed behind carrying the Bbq stuff.

I mean really?  :'(

Was the meat kosher?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Danchik on September 12, 2016, 04:03:44 PM
Interesting perspective. 

What characteristics make them better wives? 

I could see them being more faithful due to the tabu associated with sex in their religion. 

What happened with the ones you dated that it did not work out in the end? 

I was told by a taxi driver in Moscow that to them their husband is like a God.  Not sure what to make of it. 

I have noticed some Russian women do have a bad attitude sometimes.  Not all, just some.  They can come off a bit harsh sometimes.
Like I said they come in all flavors, but basically you need to meet them and find out what they're about.

I do think that the Russian "muslims' are a much tighter knit group than Russians generally speaking.

As far as my personal info, well, it's personal. :)

Bottom line: I wouldn't discount a woman for the reasons some guys here are given.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Omega1982 on September 13, 2016, 07:54:44 AM
I agree Dan. 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Manny on September 13, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
Another agreeing with Dan here. Russian "Muslims' on the whole cannot really be grouped as one into the negative variety we have many of in the UK/EU (and I assume the US). In Russia they come in all hues and shades (colour and otherwise), and the ones I have met seem to be regular folks of another religious flavour; but one that doesn't stifle their interaction with others. In the same way we might think of Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, etc. (if one is C of E for example) Meeting them you often won't know immediately as it won't crop up. It ain't all burkas, stoning and chopping heads off in Russia. Like anywhere inhabited by half-sensible people, folks just want to get along with others, get on with life and build relationships like anyone else.

As you head east beyond Kazan and through the Stans, it probably becomes more fervent, but you will not get to interact with those folks. But anecdotal evidence suggests even in those places it is quite hit and miss and all shades of belief exist to the extent that many will form relationships with non-Muslims.

As anti-Islamic as I am in the context of how it exhibits itself in the UK, if single and looking to the FSU, I wouldn't necessarily rule out a Muslim woman that otherwise floated my boat and expressed an interest in me. I'd go and meet her and make my mind up on an individual level. If her belief system did not negatively impact the relationship of my lifestyle, I'd look at it with an open mind.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: andrewfi on September 13, 2016, 02:22:30 PM
I have had at least one Muslim girlfriend, I certainly found no problems with that once we sorted out just how much pork in a dish was acceptable; turned out this was not a fixed thing and was negotiable. I say at least one because it isn't something I ask about. If it was something that was going to be a big thing then chances are that there would be no relationship for the reasons shared upthread. That means having a discussion about religion (any religion) because it is a significant enough thing in one's life is, in my experience, a sign that things are unlikely to go well.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Dogsoldier on September 13, 2016, 02:44:34 PM
I had a very long relationship with a Muslim girl when in my early twenties. Her religion was never an issue as she was a city girl and quite liberated. Smoked, drank, had sex.
The relationship faltered because I wanted to travel and see the world and she didn't.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Manny on September 13, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
once we sorted out just how much pork in a dish was acceptable;

I had a very long relationship with a Muslim girl when in my early twenties. Her religion was never an issue as she was a city girl and quite liberated. Smoked, drank, had sex.

The two quotes above demonstrate my point well. Imagine the girl smokes like a factory chimney but won't make you a bacon butty for the rest of your days? For me those small things might cause pain. I love bacon butties, and although I smoke myself, I dont find it terribly endearing in women. Neither alone might be deal breakers, but it demonstrates a level of incompatibility before you start. And the "no pork" thing many blokes will find unnecessary.

Could you confine your bacon butty munching to cafes? Perhaps in exchange for an otherwise great wife you may make that compromise. On the other hand, you may pump Malboro like a factory chimney and hate pork by choice. So no pain for you.

Its very individual.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Omega1982 on September 13, 2016, 03:53:02 PM
Another agreeing with Dan here. Russian "Muslims' on the whole cannot really be grouped as one into the negative variety we have many of in the UK/EU (and I assume the US). In Russia they come in all hues and shades (colour and otherwise), and the ones I have met seem to be regular folks of another religious flavour; but one that doesn't stifle their interaction with others. In the same way we might think of Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, etc. (if one is C of E for example) Meeting them you often won't know immediately as it won't crop up. It ain't all burkas, stoning and chopping heads off in Russia. Like anywhere inhabited by half-sensible people, folks just want to get along with others, get on with life and build relationships like anyone else.

As you head east beyond Kazan and through the Stans, it probably becomes more fervent, but you will not get to interact with those folks. But anecdotal evidence suggests even in those places it is quite hit and miss and all shades of belief exist to the extent that many will form relationships with non-Muslims.

As anti-Islamic as I am in the context of how it exhibits itself in the UK, if single and looking to the FSU, I wouldn't necessarily rule out a Muslim woman that otherwise floated my boat and expressed an interest in me. I'd go and meet her and make my mind up on an individual level. If her belief system did not negatively impact the relationship of my lifestyle, I'd look at it with an open mind.

Manny, and if you would ave a child with a Soviet Muslim, then to what faith would the child subscribe? 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: andrewfi on September 13, 2016, 04:04:57 PM
If she is a 'Soviet' Muslim then the chances are that her childbearing days are behind her. The Soviet Union shut up shop more than a generation ago.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Omega1982 on September 13, 2016, 04:43:24 PM
If she is a 'Soviet' Muslim then the chances are that her childbearing days are behind her. The Soviet Union shut up shop more than a generation ago.


I just dated one this summer that was born in 1984.  She can still have children.  I am referring to either a Russian Muslim or a Central Asian Muslim. 

If one were to marry such a woman and have children, then what religion would the children be.  Basically the question is if a Christian man would be willing to have Muslim children or vice versa. 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 13, 2016, 05:14:22 PM
once we sorted out just how much pork in a dish was acceptable;

I had a very long relationship with a Muslim girl when in my early twenties. Her religion was never an issue as she was a city girl and quite liberated. Smoked, drank, had sex.

The two quotes above demonstrate my point well. Imagine the girl smokes like a factory chimney but won't make you a bacon butty for the rest of your days? For me those small things might cause pain. I love bacon butties, and although I smoke myself, I dont find it terribly endearing in women. Neither alone might be deal breakers, but it demonstrates a level of incompatibility before you start. And the "no pork" thing many blokes will find unnecessary.

Could you confine your bacon butty munching to cafes? Perhaps in exchange for an otherwise great wife you may make that compromise. On the other hand, you may pump Malboro like a factory chimney and hate pork by choice. So no pain for you.

Its very individual.

This is a really insightful comment. It is very individual.


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 13, 2016, 05:19:53 PM
If she is a 'Soviet' Muslim then the chances are that her childbearing days are behind her. The Soviet Union shut up shop more than a generation ago.


I just dated one this summer that was born in 1984.  She can still have children.  I am referring to either a Russian Muslim or a Central Asian Muslim. 

If one were to marry such a woman and have children, then what religion would the children be.  Basically the question is if a Christian man would be willing to have Muslim children or vice versa.

The formative experiences of a girl born in 1984 would be post Soviet.

Each person is different and, unless I misunderstand, you are seeking some kind of rule of thumb to understand all these women by.

The question about what religion the children would be is one that you should be asking your lady or the girl you get into a relationship with. She will have the answer :)


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Manny on September 14, 2016, 01:08:47 AM
Another agreeing with Dan here. Russian "Muslims' on the whole cannot really be grouped as one into the negative variety we have many of in the UK/EU (and I assume the US). In Russia they come in all hues and shades (colour and otherwise), and the ones I have met seem to be regular folks of another religious flavour; but one that doesn't stifle their interaction with others. In the same way we might think of Catholics, Baptists, Hindus, etc. (if one is C of E for example) Meeting them you often won't know immediately as it won't crop up. It ain't all burkas, stoning and chopping heads off in Russia. Like anywhere inhabited by half-sensible people, folks just want to get along with others, get on with life and build relationships like anyone else.

As you head east beyond Kazan and through the Stans, it probably becomes more fervent, but you will not get to interact with those folks. But anecdotal evidence suggests even in those places it is quite hit and miss and all shades of belief exist to the extent that many will form relationships with non-Muslims.

As anti-Islamic as I am in the context of how it exhibits itself in the UK, if single and looking to the FSU, I wouldn't necessarily rule out a Muslim woman that otherwise floated my boat and expressed an interest in me. I'd go and meet her and make my mind up on an individual level. If her belief system did not negatively impact the relationship of my lifestyle, I'd look at it with an open mind.

Manny, and if you would ave a child with a Soviet Muslim, then to what faith would the child subscribe?

Again, that would be a personal thing. I wouldn't be comfortable with a Muslim kid personally, but there are plenty of blokes like Moby and Ste who would love going down the mosque or having their arse in the air twice a day wailing.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: andrewfi on September 14, 2016, 03:56:58 AM
Omega, you missed the point.  Let me make it easy for you. Your language tells us about how you think;that's normal. By using a term that is very anachronistic you are telling us two things:
1) you are applying outmoded ideas to modern people and situations.
2) you are not treating the people you meet as individuals or equals.

Neither of these things will help you in making a relationship.

Understand that the people you meet exist in a culture that is vibrant,  alive and most definitely not 'Soviet' and that they are individuals who do not fall into your convenient, but useless, categories.

Treat people as people, not as machines or reflections of your mental constructs and I promise you that you will find much more success than you do right now.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: rosco on September 15, 2016, 07:28:31 AM
To be fair, if a muslim bird's willing to date and potentially marry a western bloke - then she ain't one of the fanatical fantasists. I think the ones where you might have a few problems, wouldn't even consider dating a white western bloke for fear of offending their sky wizard or an honour killing.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 17, 2016, 07:16:22 AM
I may have another in the pipeline in the works for interested folks as well.  35 year old from Moscow, blonde, great figure.  Pics to come, will bug my wife to bug her friend when she wakes up. 

I hear a lot of the panic mongering that the FSU pipeline is over, rumors of that demise has been greatly exaggerated in my opinion.  You may have to work a taaaad harder but you can still land your trophy exponentially easier than the US or western/southern europe IMO.

So yes, more to come, gotta talk to my friend of a friend.  Another I can personally vouch for that spreads the demographic a bit out.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 18, 2016, 09:46:34 AM
as promised, Svetlana, 35 years old, much more across the age demographic spectrum.  Ethnic Russian obviously, very active as youll see in the pictures
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 18, 2016, 09:47:11 AM
one more
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 18, 2016, 09:50:40 AM
She looks like a very nice girl :)


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Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Orchid on September 18, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
Why do you post her pictures?
I would leave my man the minute I know he is not able to keep our relationships private.
She might do the same.
I understand your excitement and wish to share your feelings and success.
There is an area on forum where you can do it freely.
That area cannot be Googled.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Manny on September 18, 2016, 11:05:57 AM
Why do you post her pictures?
I would leave my man the minute I know he is not able to keep our relationships private.
She might do the same.

You have heard of Facebook, yes? Or OK/VK? Photos here are not visible to non logged in members anyway so wont go on Google images. 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: SuperPanda on September 18, 2016, 11:09:59 AM
more pics.  that is all gents, hoping for the best
Wow is all I can say, perfect and right age group! Shame it's the wrong time :(
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Orchid on September 18, 2016, 11:39:42 AM
Why do you post her pictures?
I would leave my man the minute I know he is not able to keep our relationships private.
She might do the same.

You have heard of Facebook, yes? Or OK/VK? Photos here are not visible to non logged in members anyway so wont go on Google images.

I only heard about Facebook or OK/VK.
I have never open those websites.
I also do not know how to use Skype.
Surprised? I have no need for that.

This is a problem. She can register, log in, and see her pictures.
It's enough to see once this forum on screen of his computer.
Any smart woman, before moving to serious relationships, will do in depth research about her future husband.
I might do not know men well enough.
It might be normal for you, guys, to talk about your women.
But I would be furious if I am in her place. Sorry.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Tom Cat on September 18, 2016, 11:47:57 AM
I may have another in the pipeline in the works for interested folks as well.  35 year old from Moscow, blonde, great figure.  Pics to come, will bug my wife to bug her friend when she wakes up. 

I hear a lot of the panic mongering that the FSU pipeline is over, rumors of that demise has been greatly exaggerated in my opinion.  You may have to work a taaaad harder but you can still land your trophy exponentially easier than the US or western/southern europe IMO.

So yes, more to come, gotta talk to my friend of a friend.  Another I can personally vouch for that spreads the demographic a bit out.

Orchid, maybe you missed this post, and the intent of the OP?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Orchid on September 18, 2016, 12:12:54 PM
I may have another in the pipeline in the works for interested folks as well.  35 year old from Moscow, blonde, great figure.  Pics to come, will bug my wife to bug her friend when she wakes up. 

I hear a lot of the panic mongering that the FSU pipeline is over, rumors of that demise has been greatly exaggerated in my opinion.  You may have to work a taaaad harder but you can still land your trophy exponentially easier than the US or western/southern europe IMO.

So yes, more to come, gotta talk to my friend of a friend.  Another I can personally vouch for that spreads the demographic a bit out.

Orchid, maybe you missed this post, and the intent of the OP?

Oh.... Sorry...
One million apologies!!!
I really do not pay much attention to dating stuff here.
You are right. I did not read from the beginning.
I take all my words back, if it is possible.....
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 18, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
Oh.... Sorry...
One million apologies!!!
I really do not pay much attention to dating stuff here.
You are right. I did not read from the beginning.
I take all my words back, if it is possible.....

Confident all will be forgiven after all we all brain farts from time to time.
Title: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Jerash on September 18, 2016, 12:24:21 PM
Oh.... Sorry...
One million apologies!!!
I really do not pay much attention to dating stuff here.
You are right. I did not read from the beginning.
I take all my words back, if it is possible.....

Confident all will be forgiven after all we all brain farts from time to time.

+1

From how things have been presented, my understanding is that the girl has deliberately provided her photos so that they can be posted here.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 18, 2016, 05:46:41 PM
no worries folks, yes, all has been done with explicit permission, wife approved, she supports it, this is her sister and friend, and we want to help out.  I cannot explain why they do not want to use Elena Models as a primary, but Im willing to do a little quick help any way I can to make some people happy.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 18, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
one more of svetlana
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: TimInUkraine on September 19, 2016, 07:29:46 AM
Wow Iceman, she looks like a great catch! Is she also from Uzbekistan like your spouse?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Gipsy on September 19, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
one more of svetlana

she is a cracker man....

Am seriously considering a divorce from my wife just ogling her picture.... :laugh:

I wish both you and her the best of luck.... tiphat
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 19, 2016, 03:03:10 PM
Wow Iceman, she looks like a great catch! Is she also from Uzbekistan like your spouse?

I dont believe so, I think originally from moscow now working in Dubai.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Tom Cat on September 19, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
She is a fine looking lady. What age range of men is she willing to consider?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: msmoby on September 21, 2016, 10:47:29 AM


Again, that would be a personal thing. I wouldn't be comfortable with a Muslim kid personally, but there are plenty of blokes like Moby and Ste who would love going down the mosque or having their arse in the air twice a day wailing.

Can't speak for Ste, but I'm not adverse to observing one particular arse in the air - and I don't need to go to a Mosque to see it...

[Off topic comments removed]

Moby's t'other half was born of a Muslim Dad but she chooses to wear a Cross and visit a Russian Orthodox Church ...

Can we stick to opinions not making daft comments about others beliefs ?



Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 21, 2016, 11:31:12 AM
She is a fine looking lady. What age range of men is she willing to consider?

she just told me up to 30 years older, so that covers a hell of a swath it looks like. 
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Manny on September 21, 2016, 11:39:33 AM
Wow Iceman, she looks like a great catch! Is she also from Uzbekistan like your spouse?

I dont believe so, I think originally from moscow now working in Dubai.

Doing what may I ask out of curiosity?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: andrewfi on September 21, 2016, 11:56:55 AM
I bet that you couldn't! Ask that is, no matter how curious you might be.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on September 21, 2016, 11:59:53 AM
Wow Iceman, she looks like a great catch! Is she also from Uzbekistan like your spouse?

I dont believe so, I think originally from moscow now working in Dubai.

Doing what may I ask out of curiosity?

While I found working in Dubai curious, a 30 year age span for a childless woman 35 years old, would raise some concerns for me.

But perhaps she is counting the sand/gold/oil/dollars for Dubai/UAE.

Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: iceman_530 on September 21, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
I got permission to link her facebook, she says she would like to answer questions directly.  She looks forward to replies  :8)

https://www.facebook.com/svetlana.kiselnikova.7?fref=ts
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: SuperPanda on September 21, 2016, 02:36:52 PM
Quote
she just told me up to 30 years older, so that covers a hell of a swath it looks like.
Wow! Shame I'm younger haha but she is a beautiful lady and I hope she finds who she's looking for.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: dcguyusa on September 21, 2016, 07:04:11 PM
Oh.... Sorry...
One million apologies!!!
I really do not pay much attention to dating stuff here.
You are right. I did not read from the beginning.
I take all my words back, if it is possible.....

Confident all will be forgiven after all we all brain farts from time to time.

Who farted on here?   :ROFL:
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: lokin4areason on September 21, 2016, 07:17:39 PM
best of luck for her .... in finding someone
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: maiko37 on December 31, 2016, 09:24:59 PM
Hi! I am new here. Did Svetlana find what she was looking for?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on January 01, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
Hi! I am new here. Did Svetlana find what she was looking for?

Welcome to RUA.

To rephrase your question; do any of us find what we are looking for?
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: maiko37 on January 01, 2017, 02:56:00 PM
as promised, Svetlana, 35 years old, much more across the age demographic spectrum.  Ethnic Russian obviously, very active as youll see in the pictures

Thanks for the welcome! I was asking about this lady, Svetlana is her name.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: AvHdB on January 02, 2017, 12:07:06 AM
There is a Face Book link follow that, if you wish to contact her. Otherwise I believe after five posts and a couple days you can use the PM function on RUA.
Title: Re: looking to find a nice guy for my sister in law
Post by: Contrarian on January 02, 2017, 11:28:41 AM
Wow Iceman, she looks like a great catch! Is she also from Uzbekistan like your spouse?

I dont believe so, I think originally from moscow now working in Dubai.

Doing what may I ask out of curiosity?

Absolutely 110% deal breaker. Not even a remote question about it, IMO.