(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.
-v-
The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.
Yes, I see your point.
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.
-v-
The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.
Yes, I see your point.
Let's see there is Corvette's and Tesla's, Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer, America is creating international award winning cheeses, and has NPR and a vibrant culture.
England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm, lots of towel heads and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists. There is Coronation Street and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.
But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.
-v-
The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.
Yes, I see your point.
Let's see there is Corvette's and Tesla's, Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer, America is creating international award winning cheeses, and has NPR and a vibrant culture.
England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm, lots of towel heads and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists. There is Coronation Street and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.
But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.
That was almost too easy! :ROFL:
Let me add my 2 cents. As far as cars we beat the British hands down both on price and reliability, whether it's GMC or Ford. Although I like German cars very much again American cars are more reliable, lower cost to operate and lower cost to purchase. Although it's really a moot point as people can purchase what they like and what they can afford.
As far as cheese over here on the West Coast we've got Tillamook and Facerock and numerous other Artisan cheese's that Manny's never heard of because he goes to 7-11 for Velveeta just so he can then whine about our cheese. Either that or he's just incredibly cheap.
Again here on the West Coast for Beer we've got Widmer (my favorite is the Hefe), Pyramid and about 500 other small craft beers which easily compete with Germany's best.
No design to speak of? There's Manny doing his best to hate on America. But ask his wife and she knows California has a ton of design and style, as does New York City home of the best designers in the World. Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, etc. Very unique American design that in fact is popular and coveted all over the World.
The average FSU woman would not feel complete without a badly designed (in China) knock off of an American T shirt with an attempt at nonsensical English. Take her some real American designed shirts and you're in like Flynn.
For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc. Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.
British class must have faded many years ago if the most glaring example of a lack of it is any indication (okay, an expat in Estonia).
Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it? Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?
London? You just lost it to a new Muslim Mayor who had extremist ties. Look for more attempts at full on Sharia. Lost forever within 2 or 3 decades is my estimate.
Suits? If I wore them I would take Hickey-Freeman or Hart Shaffner and Marx over most pseudo British products.
:popcorn:
Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it? Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?
Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:
Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it? Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?
Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:
I would not laugh, based on your posts you seem to an uneducated, bigoted little toady that prefers to be shit faced on a regular basis.
Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it? Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?
Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:
I would not laugh, based on your posts you seem to an uneducated, bigoted little toady that prefers to be shit faced on a regular basis.
Sorry I never went to Harvard like you... Just the local council estate , and a crummy comprehensive.. I guess I will not be going for a beer with you any time soon :laugh:
Let's see there is Corvette's
and Tesla's,
Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer,
America is creating international award winning cheeses,
and has NPR and a vibrant culture.
England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese,
Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,
lots of towel heads
and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists.
There is Coronation Street
and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.
I drive a Saab,
own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana.
Plus my suits are English made in America.
As far as cars we beat the British hands down both on price and reliability, whether it's GMC or Ford.
Although I like German cars very much again American cars are more reliable, lower cost to operate and lower cost to purchase. Although it's really a moot point as people can purchase what they like and what they can afford.
As far as cheese over here on the West Coast we've got Tillamook and Facerock and numerous other Artisan cheese's that Manny's never heard of because he goes to 7-11 for Velveeta just so he can then whine about our cheese. Either that or he's just incredibly cheap.
Again here on the West Coast for Beer we've got Widmer (my favorite is the Hefe), Pyramid and about 500 other small craft beers which easily compete with Germany's best.
No design to speak of? There's Manny doing his best to hate on America. But ask his wife and she knows California has a ton of design and style, as does New York City home of the best designers in the World. Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, etc. Very unique American design that in fact is popular and coveted all over the World.
The average FSU woman would not feel complete without a badly designed (in China) knock off of an American T shirt with an attempt at nonsensical English. Take her some real American designed shirts and you're in like Flynn.
For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc. Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.
Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?
London? You just lost it to a new Muslim Mayor who had extremist ties. Look for more attempts at full on Sharia. Lost forever within 2 or 3 decades is my estimate.
Suits? If I wore them I would take Hickey-Freeman or Hart Shaffner and Marx over most pseudo British products.
Manny, your at it again, bashing America and picking and choosing what you like
A little north of the US we have better beer, better seafood including "fish & chips"
Fair bit of culture as 90% of our people come from all over the world.
Hello, they always have been made of plastic (fiberglass). Is it not Morgan who uses Ford as a platform? Off course there is that wonderful contribution to the motoring world from England, the Plastic Pig.Let's see there is Corvette'sMade of plastic last time I looked.
Funny I saw two in L'viv last time I was there (2015) and this year I seem to remember three in Kivy. In Connecticut I get tired of seeing them sort of ordinary, now.and Tesla's,That nobody buys.
You need to spread your wings and try something new. It will not hurt.Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer,Never heard of either.
Was a while back in Paris, and an American cheese in some sort of competition (cheddar division), bested all the other entries. Though America has a way to go on the veined (blue) cheese department in my opinion.America is creating international award winning cheeses,In America maybe. It aint on the shelves here.
National Public Radio, receives a small amount of money for its cultural mostly music programs from the US government. America has produced musicians from Steve Riech and Philip Glass to REM and Tears for Fears, to name a few. OK I will admit I do like a fair bit of the English pop, as well as groups such as ColdPlay, The Clash, Elvis Costello and Peter Gabriel. But really you need to listen to and read some alternative sources other than all the Russian nonsense. You are getting to sound like Archie Bunker with a bad accent. Otherwise you will getting pats on the back from Wiz.and has NPR and a vibrant culture.Dunno what is "NPR".
Rover was first owned by Honda and than BMW. Since it was the car of respectable English folk it says something for English industry. Pun intended.England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese,Rover has been gone for many years.Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,England has a rich and interesting history with India. Nothing wrong with that.
Stay calm and pray on (7 times a day)lots of towel headsI'll give you that one.and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists.Yes, like Sweden, London is lost now. Thankfully, I don't live there.
David Hockney is your preeminent English artist, though personally I prefer the guy called Banksy. Tony Blair is if I recall a Hillary wannabe, Jeremy Corbyn is a rising star. Of course there is Jeremy Clarkson, why was he not knighted? Really you need to get out some more.There is Coronation StreetPeople like that but I dont watch it.and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.Not sure who these people are.
Yes that is a Saab story. But I have always owned the line.I drive a Saab,Another defunct car company; like Rover.
Thanksown a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana.There is hope for you yet.
Manny, your at it again, bashing America and picking and choosing what you like
A little north of the US we have better beer, better seafood including "fish & chips"
Fair bit of culture as 90% of our people come from all over the world.
Oh and the #1 selling sports car in the world is the new Mustang, even in Germany.
This car has won every major award beating out cars 2-3 times its value.
Sorry you can't buy one :chuckle:
(http://i.imgur.com/thxSDbW.jpg)
PS, everyone also wants the brits teeth :)
Manny, you haven't even heard of Samuel Adams beer, yet you think you've got a right to criticize American beer? Let me guess, just like when you bought some Velveeta cheese at 7-11, you also bought a 6 pack of Budweiser. :sick0012:
Europeans know cheese? Oh do they? Seems you don't know much about the subject matter -- Artisan and other high quality American cheese manufacturers. How can you possibly consider yourself qualified to criticize American cheese, when you've never had Tilamook, one of the major West Coast players? Have you ever tried one of their 12 month aged sharp cheddars? Nope, you just like to spew your usual rabid anti-American propaganda.
I've got a nice Face Rock rockin' pepper jack in my fridge right now, waiting for a special occasion. Have you ever had it or any of the hundreds of regional Artisan American made cheeses? No, you just like to shoot from the hip.
Would I rather drive a brand new Chevy truck over an overpriced Rolls, Jaguar or Land Rover? You bet I would. Admittedly I will end up with a used one, but I consider your statement to be a hypothetical. You can't afford any of those anyways, it just makes a guy like you feel good to drop names. Oh pardon, you say you did purchase a used Land Rover. They are very nice to look at. Initial purchase price, maintenance and insurance are very high.
PS...Didn't you drive a Chrysler 300 at one time? Uh huh. :laugh:
PPS...the one photo I've seen of you and you were wearing jeans. Forgot that jeans were invented in the USA by Levi Straus, did you?? :ROFL:
An American muscle car legend, made in the United States of America.
Funny I saw two in L'viv last time I was there (2015) and this year I seem to remember three in Kivy. In Connecticut I get tired of seeing them sort of ordinary, now.and Tesla's,That nobody buys.
Oh and the #1 selling sports car in the world is the new Mustang, even in Germany.Germany? :chuckle: I don't think so.
England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,But jags remain 'produced in brittain' , except for those in the chinese market.
Good split tiphatTesla's are wonderful. Designed by Lotus, so not American designed.
Tesla as an inventor is an interesting link between Central Europe and The United States. The Tesla cars are good looking but pricey.
Oh and the #1 selling sports car in the world is the new Mustang, even in Germany.Germany? :chuckle: I don't think so.
When driving there, the stars, rings and BMW's are zooming past me but other than ford focus's and ford fiesta's i rarely see american muscle.
besides, who wants a mustang when you can buy a jaguar for less money.
A Ford Mustang 2.3 Starts at 50k, whilst the equivalent jaguar (xe) starts at 40k. (BMW 3-series 340i = also 45k)
The ford mustang sports car you talk about comes in at 115k (V8 5.0L) whilst the comparable Jaguar (F-Type) comes in at 95k. A BMW M3 also comes in at 110k.)
Besides that, there's image. When people see a ford-mustang, its 'cheap american plastic wanna-be' , whilst driving a brand new jaguar or BMW-M series is 'wow, there goes money' , even if above pricing shows this is not neceserrily true.
Mark.
Again without links. I don't see them on the road, so you are going to have to prove it.
Oh and yes Mustang outsold all German sports cars in Germany :)
I have to prove it, your Google link broken :chuckle:Again without links. I don't see them on the road, so you are going to have to prove it.
Oh and yes Mustang outsold all German sports cars in Germany :)
And its less money, at least on this side of the pond.Then why show a picture of it, if I can't buy one. And if a jag is cheaper than a regular Mustang, this one is overpriced even further.
The one in the picture above, you can't buy at local dealer, so not sure of import costs,
when able to import.
https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2016/04/20/ford-mustang-is-best-selling-sports-coupe-globally.htmlWe were talking sports-cars , not a 2.3 litre engine baby-model.
Tesla is a marvelous demonstration of the technique of subsidy hunting.
Every car that Tesla makes is sold at a huge loss - and that will not change.
Every car that Tesla makes is subsidized by US tax payers - every USAian owns a slice of every Tesla being riven anywhere in the world - except that none of you will ever benefit from it. The benefits flow to Elon Musk and a small group of private shareholders.
Musk is a genius, a genius at spotting areas of enterprise where the government will either pay for, or underwrite, the business whilst letting him keep any profits. All upside, no downside.
Tesla are a tiny, niche manufacturer in a niche in which they are a niche player - look at the numbers, I have posted them on this site before now. The chances that they will scale to 1000% of current output in the next two years? HAHAHAHHAHAHA! But Musk will profit from every penny of taxpayers money being lavished up his businesses.
England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,But jags remain 'produced in brittain' , except for those in the chinese market.
http://www.jaguarlandrover.com/gl/en/innovation/production-operations/
An American muscle car legend, made in the United States of America.
As a matter of fact, I have owned many Mustangs. In fact, I have owned dozens of American cars and trucks. Example (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,3516.msg375420.html#msg375420)
FWIW you can buy Sam Adams beers in the UK, I stumbled into a TGI's a while back near Leeds (as there was no where else and we needed to eat) and they sell it in there, I tried a couple, its actually quite nice beer TBH, far better than all the lager types like Bud, Coors etc, but still can't hold a candle to a nice smooth Johns Smiths, Tetleys, Boddingtons to name but three.
The XJ6 is from many years ago. It would seem to be rather unwise to ascribe the reliability issues that genuinely were a part of that car with current cars. Just the same as one would not, sensibly, ascribe the horrendous quality of US cars of yore to today's output. We can clearly see that many US cars now approach European standards for build quality and efficiency.
Manny, you haven't even heard of Samuel Adams beer, yet you think you've got a right to criticize American beer? Let me guess, just like when you bought some Velveeta cheese at 7-11, you also bought a 6 pack of Budweiser. :sick0012:
Fella, I dont drink beer.Europeans know cheese? Oh do they? Seems you don't know much about the subject matter -- Artisan and other high quality American cheese manufacturers. How can you possibly consider yourself qualified to criticize American cheese, when you've never had Tilamook, one of the major West Coast players? Have you ever tried one of their 12 month aged sharp cheddars? Nope, you just like to spew your usual rabid anti-American propaganda.
I've got a nice Face Rock rockin' pepper jack in my fridge right now, waiting for a special occasion. Have you ever had it or any of the hundreds of regional Artisan American made cheeses? No, you just like to shoot from the hip.
You are making yourself look daft. Really, do some Googling about British, French and Dutch cheese. :-[
For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc. Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.
I'll raise you the Romans, the Georgians, the Victorians and everything since.Education? I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?
Coz they closed Oxford and Cambridge? :chuckle:
Your posts about the USA follow a familiar formula: Look for the lowest common denominator and claim that this is America. Same boorish formula you've used for many years. :GRRRR:
In regards to Architecture you by nature of living in the UK do NOT own history. We've had a few million Scandinavian immigrants and a few of them became Architects. We've had millions of Italian immigrants and a few of them became Architects. We've had millions of English and Scottish immigrants and a few of them became Architects.
They opened a dealer recently in Manchester actually. I keep meaning to drop in out of idle curiosity.
Brighton royal pavilion I suppose. I thought it was a mosque for a moment.
the Mustang Shelby GT350 is less money, one dealer in Germany is selling them,And its less money, at least on this side of the pond.Then why show a picture of it, if I can't buy one. And if a jag is cheaper than a regular Mustang, this one is overpriced even further.
The one in the picture above, you can't buy at local dealer, so not sure of import costs,
when able to import.
So I get to quote other 'supercars' as well, a Lambo can be had for those kinds of pricing.
The XJ6 is from many years ago.
FWIW you can buy Sam Adams beers in the UK, I stumbled into a TGI's a while back near Leeds (as there was no where else and we needed to eat) and they sell it in there, I tried a couple, its actually quite nice beer TBH, far better than all the lager types like Bud, Coors etc, but still can't hold a candle to a nice smooth Johns Smiths, Tetleys, Boddingtons to name but three.
Thanks Chris, Sam Adams certainly is better than Bud or Coors IMO however it's not a small craft brewery, it's a large one (aka Boston Beer Co). As such I think they wanted to be close, but better than Bud or Coors. Sam Adams has others but the stars are the smaller craft brewers.
There are hundreds of them over here on the West Coast. Widmer Hefe is one of my favorites. There's also Pyramid and many others. The point is that Manny has no business criticizing American beer when he has little knowledge of it.
Moby, at it again. Try to be honest, please.
Why not try building some credibility by being honest with yourself and others?
In nl that mustang is more expensive than a jag or a bmw.
That's why I reckon that the blip in sales figures in March for the Mustang was just that, a blip. hey are what they are - Ford Capris (if you're old enough) for yanks. Cheap, big engines, go fast, hit trees.
Moby, at it again. Try to be honest, please.
The new model 3 took 276k orders in less than 3 days - following it's launch - please tell us andrewfi which car has ever EVER achieved such orders .. some 'niche'
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/tesla-model-3-276000-orders-and-counting
It's not so far back to April when I demonstrated you were completely out of touch re Teslas sales and order book.. clue Lithium Battery thread..Why not try building some credibility by being honest with yourself and others?
Better you checked their orders boos before posting daft and suggesting 'dishonesty' from folks who know better than you..
For those in the real world ..the Models S is now taking more orders in the US than the Merc S Class, Audi A8 BMW 7 series COMBINED....
Tempted by the Tesla S, lease, company car, as I am a Ltd Co. director and as it's an EV, minimal BIK, £600 a mo but not the 0-60 in 2.8 secs ludicrous model, but the 4WD with all the toys, what's not to like?
Most angles it looks good, from the front it looks shit, and at the end of the car, it's only a car. I could keep my current one for zero BIK and £0.00 a month cost apart from running costs obvs....
Tempted by the Tesla S, lease, company car, as I am a Ltd Co. director and as it's an EV, minimal BIK, £600 a mo but not the 0-60 in 2.8 secs ludicrous model, but the 4WD with all the toys, what's not to like?
Most angles it looks good, from the front it looks shit, and at the end of the car, it's only a car. I could keep my current one for zero BIK and £0.00 a month cost apart from running costs obvs....
They have to sort out that nasty front end and then learn how to build the things, but the testbeds they showed do look quite nice. Frankly, in one way or another EVs are going to be the future. A fried of mine over here runs a network of the things for use as delivery, customer service vehicles and the like. We have a nationwide network of charging stations (the first in the world, I think) and for now the leccy to charge them is dead cheap - but that is going to have to change at some point soon as the electricity grids across the world can't support the changeover.
But they are still vapourware, several years from being built. Here's a thought. Cast your mind back three years. Imagine a car that you thought was leading edge and very cool, but accessible in price back then. OK? got that fixed?
Now think of today. If you went to buy that car today would you STILL be as impressed by its looks and design as you were three years ago? Bearing in mind that the rest of the world has been busy changing and we have seen 2 or three model years of change.
So, there's the Tesla, looks great today, but three years from now?
The competition isn't sitting still you know! And they actually make cars!
I think I went in at least one of those cars, yes?
Looked quite nice but 'tap tap tap', yes?
My current 'tachka' is LPG, which is like 49p a litre here, and it's 3.6ltr, not Tesla standard but ok since it owes me nowt....
FWIW you can buy Sam Adams beers in the UK, I stumbled into a TGI's a while back near Leeds (as there was no where else and we needed to eat) and they sell it in there, I tried a couple, its actually quite nice beer TBH, far better than all the lager types like Bud, Coors etc, but still can't hold a candle to a nice smooth Johns Smiths, Tetleys, Boddingtons to name but three.
Thanks Chris, Sam Adams certainly is better than Bud or Coors IMO however it's not a small craft brewery, it's a large one (aka Boston Beer Co). As such I think they wanted to be close, but better than Bud or Coors. Sam Adams has others but the stars are the smaller craft brewers.
There are hundreds of them over here on the West Coast. Widmer Hefe is one of my favorites. There's also Pyramid and many others. The point is that Manny has no business criticizing American beer when he has little knowledge of it.
I've been to the Anheuser-Busch brewery in Florida, many years ago, and have tried many of the local beers over there, but none from what I recall were as nice as the Sam Adams I tried over here, so next time I am in the States I will look for some more of that variety.
You guys should drive the current versions of different cars and look at how they are all made before commenting. The comments on the new Shelby 350 are of ignorance and even 5 minutes of reading would
teach you enough to not make such statements. It is a Mustang, after the name it is totally different
than any other Mustang every built.
I don't know how cheap M3's Audi R8 and different Porsche's are in Europe but here
they are double or more the price than version of any Mustang.
Plus my suits are English made in America.
If you need a decent Hong Kong tailor? Try this bloke (http://www.mytailor.com/). No need to pay American prices.
For USAians it is different, they KNOW they are cheap, they are accustomed to cheap and don't make the mistake of mixing them up with quality machinery. They are what they are - Ford Capris (if you're old enough) for yanks. Cheap, big engines, go fast, hit trees.
My current 'tachka' is LPG, which is like 49p a litre here, and it's 3.6ltr, not Tesla standard but ok since it owes me nowt....
Still on that Cadillac?
I looked at those and they seemed OK. Chris had one for a while too. I got the 300C that wifey now has as it refuses to die and costs almost £0 to maintain. Just tyres, brakes and regular stuff for almost ten years. It has never missed a beat. It flew another MOT a few weeks ago. 300Cs are very underrated here. Pre-Fiat ones are Merc underpinnings. Used they are almost free, have great road presence and don't break. Wifey fancies a new Audi, at which point the 300C will go as a hand me down to the ex missus till it becomes a banger.
Moby, $1000 deposits for vapourware mean very little. You know it. Don't be silly. All those people are buying real cars to drive, today.
Factory doesn't exist, logistics chain, non-existent and the numbers they actually sell, real cars, are tiny, a rounding number in supply of electric cars. Irrelevant in terms of proper cars.
Don't try to make stuff up. We know what you are. Be honest, learn something. It'll do you good.
BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
FWIW you can buy Sam Adams beers in the UK, I stumbled into a TGI's a while back near Leeds (as there was no where else and we needed to eat) and they sell it in there, I tried a couple, its actually quite nice beer TBH, far better than all the lager types like Bud, Coors etc, but still can't hold a candle to a nice smooth Johns Smiths, Tetleys, Boddingtons to name but three.
Thanks Chris, Sam Adams certainly is better than Bud or Coors IMO however it's not a small craft brewery, it's a large one (aka Boston Beer Co). As such I think they wanted to be close, but better than Bud or Coors. Sam Adams has others but the stars are the smaller craft brewers.
There are hundreds of them over here on the West Coast. Widmer Hefe is one of my favorites. There's also Pyramid and many others. The point is that Manny has no business criticizing American beer when he has little knowledge of it.
I've been to the Anheuser-Busch brewery in Florida, many years ago, and have tried many of the local beers over there, but none from what I recall were as nice as the Sam Adams I tried over here, so next time I am in the States I will look for some more of that variety.
I'm not sure if you could find this one on the East coast however it's easy to find on the West coast. My favorite one is the Citrus Mistress. They have a very good selection and all are quality.
http://hopvalleybrewing.com/beer/
Even better is this one, IMO.
http://widmerbrothers.com/beer/#hefeweizen
Last but not least is a hometown brewery (Seattle).
http://www.youtube.com/v/fMv-j_BUKDU
BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.
You have to laugh :laugh: before the troubles would you have called it Ukrainian shashlik, just saying!
Plus my suits are English made in America.
If you need a decent Hong Kong tailor? Try this bloke (http://www.mytailor.com/). No need to pay American prices.
Hideous. The first suit shown looked like a dirty tablecloth the color of vomit. Sure, you brits have style. :sick0012:
You guys should drive the current versions of different cars and look at how they are all made before commenting. The comments on the new Shelby 350 are of ignorance and even 5 minutes of reading would
teach you enough to not make such statements. It is a Mustang, after the name it is totally different
than any other Mustang every built.
I don't know how cheap M3's Audi R8 and different Porsche's are in Europe but here
they are double or more the price than version of any Mustang.
(Something) is bliss when the chief protagonist makes comments and then admits he doesn't drink beer, has never had any of the beers of a few select small craft brewery's nor has he had any cheese from American artisan cheese makers. :-*
Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.You have to laugh :laugh: before the troubles would you have called it Ukrainian shashlik, just saying!
:ROFL:
''The word "shish" (Azerbaijani: şiş, Turkish: şiş) means skewer. The word "shishlik" is literally translated as "skewerable". Even though the word "shashlyk" was borrowed from the Crimean Tatars by the Cossacks as early as the 16th century, kebabs did not reach Moscow until the late 19th century.[4] From then on, their popularity spread rapidly; by the 1910s they were a staple in St Petersburg restaurants and by the 1920s they were already a pervasive street food all over urban Russia.
While it is not unusual to see shashlik today listed on the menu of restaurants, it is more commonly sold in the form of fast-food by street vendors who roast the skewers over wood, charcoal, or coal. It is also cooked in outdoor environments during social gatherings, similarly to barbecue in English-speaking countries.''
source wiki..
NS1, yes, you are right and, I at least, noted the price issue. ;)
Sorry for your lack of reading skill.
We get it - the Mustang is a cheap car for paupers who want a big engine. That's fine. Over in civilization Ford have chosen to sell at a high price and sell in low volume. The problem is that when that happens the christmas cracker quality of the interior rather shows itself up in a way that it wouldn't at a lower price.
A few years ago GM were selling something big and fast - same problem, it was made of model toy plastic, but it was being sold, in the UK, at a low price point and, on that basis it got a pass. It fitted its place in the market and did OK among the group who want a new car with a big engine for pocket money prices.
BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
You have to laugh :laugh: before the troubles would you have called it Ukrainian shashlik, just saying!
BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
Kebabs are of middle eastern origin. They came to FSU via the Crimean Tarters (who are of Turkish descent).
Of course they are now cooked and enjoyed all over the world. The quality depends on who is making them. Personally I will never eat Doner Kebab. You don't know how long the meat has been on the spike, so the risk of food poisoning is high. If eating in a restaurant then Sis (pieces of meat) or Adana (Minced meat) are good options.
Ukrainian Shashlik is usually made from pork which of course is forbidden in the middle east. Ukrainian Shashlik is very tasty - big pieces of pork cooked slowly.
Hamburgers do not cook well on a barbecue. If they contain enough fat to be juicy they will cause flames, if lean they are dry. I like to roast/smoke on the barbecue. Whole goat leg marinaded and basted with mint/yogurt - simply delicious.
You guys should drive the current versions of different cars and look at how they are all made before commenting. The comments on the new Shelby 350 are of ignorance and even 5 minutes of reading would
teach you enough to not make such statements. It is a Mustang, after the name it is totally different
than any other Mustang every built.
I don't know how cheap M3's Audi R8 and different Porsche's are in Europe but here
they are double or more the price than version of any Mustang.
(Something) is bliss when the chief protagonist makes comments and then admits he doesn't drink beer, has never had any of the beers of a few select small craft brewery's nor has he had any cheese from American artisan cheese makers. :-*
I thought you didn't drink either?
I'm sure the US has many a nice beer but I've yet to fall in love with one. Don't take it personally but you're not exactly renowned for your beer.
Plus my suits are English made in America.
If you need a decent Hong Kong tailor? Try this bloke (http://www.mytailor.com/). No need to pay American prices.
Hideous. The first suit shown looked like a dirty tablecloth the color of vomit. Sure, you brits have style. :sick0012:
I think you misunderstood the concept of tailoring. They make what you want; you don't buy what they have.
Not a concern for you, keep buying the baseball caps, white socks and beige shorts. :sick0012:
Probably not ;) I am sure I mentioned it before on this board before 2014. Happy hunting.BTW is it possible to get excellent BBQ in Europe? I really don't know but I doubt it measures up to the USA.Try Russian shaslick in Crimea. You'll never want to eat a hamburger again.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/americas-25-best-barbecue-chains-for-2016/ss-BBslqnv?ocid=iehp
You have to laugh :laugh: before the troubles would you have called it Ukrainian shashlik, just saying!
But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.
Three US guys on holiday. note the absent "Gap" shorts.. probably had non in stock that weekend :laugh:
A few years ago GM were selling something big and fast - same problem, it was made of model toy plastic, but it was being sold, in the UK, at a low price point and, on that basis, it got a pass. It fitted its place in the market and did OK among the group who want a new car with a big engine for pocket money prices.
A few years ago GM were selling something big and fast - same problem, it was made of model toy plastic, but it was being sold, in the UK, at a low price point and, on that basis, it got a pass. It fitted its place in the market and did OK among the group who want a new car with a big engine for pocket money prices.
Pocket rockets those cars were. I had one, never had such fun while fully clothed. The speeding tickets were just as quick unfortunately.
Best get yourself a camel.
A few years ago GM were selling something big and fast - same problem, it was made of model toy plastic, but it was being sold, in the UK, at a low price point and, on that basis, it got a pass. It fitted its place in the market and did OK among the group who want a new car with a big engine for pocket money prices.
Pocket rockets those cars were. I had one, never had such fun while fully clothed. The speeding tickets were just as quick unfortunately.
What was it?
I've had a 1963 Cadillac Convertible, two 1973 Sedan de Villes and one 1975 Fleetwood Brougham, all swanky as fuk but shite to drive, and total rust buckets. I drove one from Watford to Dumfries, on the M1/M6/A74 and I was nervous wreck when I got home, never again, awful.
Having said that, my current Caddy CTS is a dream, not that I drive much now, too many Muslims on the road....
A few years ago GM were selling something big and fast - same problem, it was made of model toy plastic, but it was being sold, in the UK, at a low price point and, on that basis, it got a pass. It fitted its place in the market and did OK among the group who want a new car with a big engine for pocket money prices.
Pocket rockets those cars were. I had one, never had such fun while fully clothed. The speeding tickets were just as quick unfortunately.
What was it?
I've had a 1963 Cadillac Convertible, two 1973 Sedan de Villes and one 1975 Fleetwood Brougham, all swanky as fuk but shite to drive, and total rust buckets. I drove one from Watford to Dumfries, on the M1/M6/A74 and I was nervous wreck when I got home, never again, awful.
I've had a 1963 Cadillac Convertible, two 1973 Sedan de Villes and one 1975 Fleetwood Brougham, all swanky as fuk but shite to drive, and total rust buckets. I drove one from Watford to Dumfries, on the M1/M6/A74 and I was nervous wreck when I got home, never again, awful.
Years ago I had a Pontiac Grand Prix SJ coupe circa 1977. A huge 6 point something V8 of a car with a bench seat and a column change. One of these.
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At the time it was truly an awesome thing in the UK, and more unusual was a lad of 21 or so having one in the early 90's here.
But yes I had to rebuild the engine when it blew up. And import a new bonnet (hood) from Georgia as the tin worm ate it. But none of that detracted from the ownership experience. I loved it...
Manny that is one Ugly car and was mostly a piece of crap.
But older things get, they cooler they are, thats what I keep telling the wife ;D
I can't tell you what Pontiac stands for, or at least not on here LOL.
Sounds familiar but I honestly don't recall, about 6 or 7 years ago? Wasn't that one Australian though? I know that the USAians have been using Australian engines in their high power cars.
I recall that Top Gear had a hard on for those cars didn't they.
Manny that is one Ugly car and was mostly a piece of crap.
But older things get, they cooler they are, thats what I keep telling the wife ;D
I can't tell you what Pontiac stands for, or at least not on here LOL.
Me, not so much a car person - the bloke who drives around in a 21 year old Bimmer.
Manny that is one Ugly car and was mostly a piece of crap.
But older things get, they cooler they are, thats what I keep telling the wife ;D
I can't tell you what Pontiac stands for, or at least not on here LOL.
I had a lot of big daft stuff like that. Several old Caddys, an Oldsmobile Delta Royale, a Chevy Caprice (same as the Olds essentially).
Big yank stuff can do strong money here if proper and not rusty. Especially if it has fins.
When I started bringing later stuff in like the Mustangs, I had to wrap my head around the electronic side to do euro light conversions. Gone are the days of twisting and taping the odd wire together. Splitting the turn signal from the brake light without overloading the SJB, and what resistors to put where takes know how.
Me, not so much a car person - the bloke who drives around in a 21 year old Bimmer.
I thought you had a Yankee import courtesy of Mr Manchester?
Me, not so much a car person - the bloke who drives around in a 21 year old Bimmer.
I thought you had a Yankee import courtesy of Mr Manchester?
No, I bought a lovely Merc off him years ago but I killed it - mistreated it badly.
It was a great car for cross continental driving - except for the cost of fuel. My current ride gives me less than 40mpg but is miserly in comparison to its predecessor.
Not that old no.
That's way too old to be buying from Germany, in Germany they'd be scrapped well before the 20 year mark. When I drive across Germany my car is about the oldest I see on the road. You'll not see many that age in Estonia.
The stuff you are thinking of would be maximum 15 years old and, usually, imported off lease at three years old. There's not many pre-crisis cars here because there was not much money around before and even less during. So, there's a kind of a cut off at about 2000. That's when the economy started to move again.
Mine is from the UK. Well looked after and far from being a shed.
There's not many pre-crisis cars here because there was not much money around before and even less during. So, there's a kind of a cut off at about 2000. That's when the economy started to move again.
My Bimmer is now 12 y.o. does its job superbly and I have never been happier with an Automobile.
Not even the newest Model Toyota Avensis (2011) I drove before.
However, It is starting to show its age, so I will be upgrading to a 3-series F model next year, that will settle me for another decade I hope, since it has most electronical gizmo's built in.
Just have to be careful to not get an EDE edition, those are wrecked by their owners because they tend to be ex-leasing.
My Bimmer is now 12 y.o. does its job superbly and I have never been happier with an Automobile.
Not even the newest Model Toyota Avensis (2011) I drove before.
However, It is starting to show its age, so I will be upgrading to a 3-series F model next year, that will settle me for another decade I hope, since it has most electronical gizmo's built in.
Just have to be careful to not get an EDE edition, those are wrecked by their owners because they tend to be ex-leasing.
I reckon that it is cheaper to keep the car that one has than to change. So, unless one wants some new toys or gizmos there's no need to change. I set an annual budget for the thing and until it costs me more than that budget (roughly equivalent to leasing a new car) then I don't change. So, in January it is going to have the bodywork sorted at a cost of about €2500 and we'll be golden for a lot more years.
Mechanically it is well looked after and it has just done 70K miles, 20 under my care. Almost run in. ;)
I didn't for one second think you had. However, almost all 21 year old boomers ARE sheds.
This year I have to take a big step to stop it becoming a little 'sheddy' and do all the bodywork. Had a quote from a decent shop to do the whole car, replacing metal where needed. It'll look great when done. Those bloody metal moths work fast when they hatch out in the bodywork.
Did they back in 1995 or do you have a time machine?
Meanwhile the thing is almost free to run, trustworthy on transcontinental runs and attracts almost no attention (apart from some scrote in Calais who tried to break in a few months ago.)
Manny that is one Ugly car and was mostly a piece of crap.
But older things get, they cooler they are, thats what I keep telling the wife ;D
I can't tell you what Pontiac stands for, or at least not on here LOL.
I had a lot of big daft stuff like that. Several old Caddys, an Oldsmobile Delta Royale, a Chevy Caprice (same as the Olds essentially).
Big yank stuff can do strong money here if proper and not rusty. Especially if it has fins.
When I started bringing later stuff in like the Mustangs, I had to wrap my head around the electronic side to do euro light conversions. Gone are the days of twisting and taping the odd wire together. Splitting the turn signal from the brake light without overloading the SJB, and what resistors to put where takes know how.
Do they have foglamps now? None on any of my old Caddies, all had white indicators at the front, red at the back. On everyone of of them the bottom of the doors fell out, rust never sleeps....
Used to get my parts from Rodley Autos in Bradford, ironically Rodley Autos now look after my current Caddy, since it has a dodgy headlamp (one EU one US) and they always let me off for it. New one is £2k I kid you not.
Photos of the Dodge Challenger. A very nice reincarnation of the American muscle car.
https://www.google.com/search?q=photos+of+2015+dodge+challenger&tbm=isch&imgil=4o6nr7LgX-mpKM%253A%253BtwprkBZLZzOs4M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.caranddriver.com%25252Fphoto-gallery%25252F2015-dodge-challenger-photos-and-info-news&source=iu&pf=m&fir=4o6nr7LgX-mpKM%253A%252CtwprkBZLZzOs4M%252C_&usg=__MHmjTVh8uBm_FVVpi6rO7S3BBoI%3D&biw=1366&bih=673&ved=0ahUKEwi_zoP6ydPMAhVH9h4KHTtOCQoQyjcIMA&ei=L_YzV__6KMfse7ucpVA#imgrc=7o4Ucxq4NDPVdM%3A
Me, not so much a car person - the bloke who drives around in a 21 year old Bimmer.
I thought you had a Yankee import courtesy of Mr Manchester?
No, I bought a lovely Merc off him years ago but I killed it - mistreated it badly.
It was a great car for cross continental driving - except for the cost of fuel. My current ride gives me less than 40mpg but is miserly in comparison to its predecessor.
21 year old Bimmer is every young guys choice of motor in The Baltics from what I've seen. I understand many go to Germany, buy a shed for a few hundred €'s then drive home and register it as a local car.
One of our beloved UK septic's needs to get up to date and get out of the house and work routine; stop going only to the UK 7/11's for his American "cheese" (velveeta).
It seems the USA has done very well in some World cheese competitions. :)
https://www.specialtyfood.com/news/article/vt-cheesemakers-win-big-world-cheese-competition/
http://hartdesign.com/industry-news/u-s-made-cheeses-shine-international-competitions/
“Wisconsin cheesemakers have been making championship varieties such as Gouda, Swiss, Alpine hard-smeared, Havarti, hard Italian cheese and other varieties that have ranked right up with the best European cheeses for some time,” he says. “I see this trend continuing to grow in the future.”
One of our beloved UK septic's needs to get up to date and get out of the house and work routine; stop going only to the UK 7/11's for his American "cheese" (velveeta).
It seems the USA has done very well in some World cheese competitions. :)
https://www.specialtyfood.com/news/article/vt-cheesemakers-win-big-world-cheese-competition/
http://hartdesign.com/industry-news/u-s-made-cheeses-shine-international-competitions/Quote“Wisconsin cheesemakers have been making championship varieties such as Gouda, Swiss, Alpine hard-smeared, Havarti, hard Italian cheese and other varieties that have ranked right up with the best European cheeses for some time,” he says. “I see this trend continuing to grow in the future.”
Aha, so its really European style cheese, European recepies , made in the USA.
I dont know if those are European or USA'ian cheeses, my gut goes to European, because it doesn't matter where it is produced, the recepy makes the taste.
Being the United states is a country of immigrants, there would be an influence from other countries in most foods products. As for comparison of quality or taste much depends on personal preference.
Where the real difference in quality can be found where certain ingredients originate. The problem with the United states is too much of our food is now genetically modified, force fed beef, and poultry.
So Yesterday, I did a headcount from home->grocery store, on which brands of cars are popular in my neck of the Netherlands.
83 European cars (Fiat, VW, Peugeot, etc.)
43 Asian cars (Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, SSang Yong (1!) etc.).
6 Fords (5 Focus 1 fiesta) (American, I counted those as Ford-USA and Ford-Europe as 1 brand, american)
1 Oldsmobile Starfire (American)
1 GMC (The type the A-team used to drive)
1 Lincoln Continental.
Not exactly popular here, those americans.
Mark.
Being the United states is a country of immigrants, there would be an influence from other countries in most foods products. As for comparison of quality or taste much depends on personal preference.
Where the real difference in quality can be found where certain ingredients originate. The problem with the United states is too much of our food is now genetically modified, force fed beef, and poultry.
There are plenty of non-GMO choices available if you want it. Plenty of free-range chicken and beef as well. When I buy a steak, which is rare (no pun intended) I often pay a bit extra for free range. I purchase wild-caught Salmon.
It isn't hard to find but it does cost extra. It's all relative. If you're having a large barbecue for a large family gathering you might not care if the burger patties are free range or not. :)
One of our beloved UK septic's needs to get up to date and get out of the house and work routine; stop going only to the UK 7/11's for his American "cheese" (velveeta).
It seems the USA has done very well in some World cheese competitions. :)
https://www.specialtyfood.com/news/article/vt-cheesemakers-win-big-world-cheese-competition/
http://hartdesign.com/industry-news/u-s-made-cheeses-shine-international-competitions/
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, the cheese state, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
The info I saw did not give any idea of how many foreign entries there were as opposed to local ones but I think we can both guess what the score is there. ;)
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
An American won the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling contest in Glos. in 2013. TBF though all you have to do is roll a cheese round down a hill and chase it, not actually make any.
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
An American won the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling contest in Glos. in 2013. TBF though all you have to do is roll a cheese round down a hill and chase it, not actually make any.
Is that the one where butters strap on a helmet and throw themselves down a hill?
Winner collects the cheese and brain damage?
Having taken part in the Ashbourne Shrovetide Football battle in my youth I can, with some authority, say that winning the cheese rolling trophy is not one that I'd ever have sought out, no matter how drunk I might have been at the time.
Mark, the US event referenced by ant had almost as many countries represented. I reckon it isn't the number of countries represented but the number of international entries that is significant. :)
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, the cheese state, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
The info I saw did not give any idea of how many foreign entries there were as opposed to local ones but I think we can both guess what the score is there. ;)
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, the cheese state, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
The info I saw did not give any idea of how many foreign entries there were as opposed to local ones but I think we can both guess what the score is there. ;)
Stupid alert from Andrew!
Since you most likely would not know the taste difference between an American and English cheddar, it would be better to stick to your coloring books and milk shakes.
Consistently American cheese has as in fact as Sam Adams as a beer won tasting contests~competitions in Europe. Since you have no clue about what you are writing about do those who know cheese a favor stick to being a prat on other subjects.
Your assumptions are frequently wrong and show a clear anti-American bias that is a signature of a troll.
Rosco, I think you hit the nail on the head. Guess where this World Championship Cheese Contest is held?
Yup, that's right, Wisconsin, the cheese state, USA!
There were more entrants from different states of the US than from other countries (there were some international entries though)
The info I saw did not give any idea of how many foreign entries there were as opposed to local ones but I think we can both guess what the score is there. ;)
Stupid alert from Andrew!
Since you most likely would not know the taste difference between an American and English cheddar, it would be better to stick to your coloring books and milk shakes.
Consistently American cheese has as in fact as Sam Adams as a beer won tasting contests~competitions in Europe. Since you have no clue about what you are writing about do those who know cheese a favor stick to being a prat on other subjects.
Your assumptions are frequently wrong and show a clear anti-American bias that is a signature of a troll.
Easy-cheese
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Perhaps you could post the competition you were referring to?
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Easy-cheese
(Attachment Link)
Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
Luke in a round about way you grasp the reality, each country has unique palette with regards food. Yes England has some dreadful traditions as does America and the continent has foods that you just think how can you do this . . . ?
But to quantify America as Andrew does every time as unable to produce a decent product is typical of an ignorant troll.
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Tripe anyone? Cow's stomach lining, absolutely disgusting, looks, smells and tastes rank, boiled in pan, looks like my dad's underpants, eaten with vinegar.
Even worse than the compress slugs in jars you get in Russia under the guise of pickled mushrooms...
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Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
Easy-cheese
(Attachment Link)
Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Tripe anyone? Cow's stomach lining, absolutely disgusting, looks, smells and tastes rank, boiled in pan, looks like my dad's underpants, eaten with vinegar.
Even worse than the compress slugs in jars you get in Russia under the guise of pickled mushrooms...
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Ugh, that's :censored: ing disgusting...
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
One can enjoy this in France as well with a raw egg for breakfast or in Holland there is Ossenworst.
Each to there own taste.
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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:sick0012: you mean Lecker Hackepeterbrötchen, I have been to Berlin a few times lately, love the place, sadly some of the food takes a lot of getting used too, Lecker Hackepeterbrötchen is certainly an aquired taste :rolleye0009:
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
Credit the late Sir Terry Wogan for that - he always referred to his wife as the current Mrs Wogan despite being married for years...!
Easy-cheese
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Absolutely nasty!
Off course one could post images of horrid lemon crud from England or the refuse you throw over chips.
No country has an absolute over cheap and nasty. As no country is perfect.
Lemon curd is an acquired taste, those nederlanders pouring mayo on their chips just wouldn't get it. Ish dish gusting guys'
And Germans eating raw mincemeat....
You mean of course "steak tartar"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steak_tartare
No - it's called Hacke-something, I'll find a pic we took in, err, some Bauhaus place the current mrs ste was visiting. (She's in kitchen sales)...
Here - Lecker Hackepeter-Brötchen...
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:sick0012: you mean Lecker Hackepeterbrötchen, I have been to Berlin a few times lately, love the place, sadly some of the food takes a lot of getting used too, Lecker Hackepeterbrötchen is certainly an aquired taste :rolleye0009:
It is steak tatare tho - I didn't know the German word for tartare...
Haven't tried it but that pic was taken (my me) in the Leipzig area, I remember it was snowing and I had pretty naff wurst. It was after one of Nadia's 200km/hr blasts on the autobahn and I was in a state of shock. She's only got a 1.1 ltr Pug at home...
I love steak tartar along with beef carpaccio etc. We often buy Dutch cheese in Amsterdam whilst passing through and that raw meat stuff is great too - the current Mrs Rosco happily agrees.
I love steak tartar along with beef carpaccio etc. We often buy Dutch cheese in Amsterdam whilst passing through and that raw meat stuff is great too - the current Mrs Rosco happily agrees.
I like carpaccio too and parma ham, all raw but cured and I bet the German mincemeat is cured in someway, there's no way eating raw meat is good for you in a supermarket situation!
I love steak tartar along with beef carpaccio etc. We often buy Dutch cheese in Amsterdam whilst passing through and that raw meat stuff is great too - the current Mrs Rosco happily agrees.
I like carpaccio too and parma ham, all raw but cured and I bet the German mincemeat is cured in someway, there's no way eating raw meat is good for you in a supermarket situation!
Seems not to be the case
http://germanfood.about.com/od/germanfoodglossary/g/Mett-Ground-Pork.htm
The ground meat is made from muscle with no tendons and should have a fat content of no more than 35% so that it is nice and schmierig ("greasy").
I love steak tartar along with beef carpaccio etc. We often buy Dutch cheese in Amsterdam whilst passing through and that raw meat stuff is great too - the current Mrs Rosco happily agrees.
I like carpaccio too and parma ham, all raw but cured and I bet the German mincemeat is cured in someway, there's no way eating raw meat is good for you in a supermarket situation!
Seems not to be the case
http://germanfood.about.com/od/germanfoodglossary/g/Mett-Ground-Pork.htm
Well I'm not fukn eating that then.....
Lemon curd is a favourite and one reason that I am happy that the civilising influence of Marks and Spencer has found its way to here!
nice melty butter, hot toast - not yer crappy fake butter that never saw a cow.
nice melty butter, hot toast - not yer crappy fake butter that never saw a cow.
Diet :censored: ed... :ROFL:
nice melty butter, hot toast - not yer crappy fake butter that never saw a cow.
Diet :censored: ed... :ROFL:
A man can dream you know!
Some of you lot have to dream about the women who you have yet to meet. I don't need to do that, but I do dream about the food that is forbidden (for the time being)!
nice melty butter, hot toast - not yer crappy fake butter that never saw a cow.
Diet :censored: ed... :ROFL:
A man can dream you know!
Some of you lot have to dream about the women who you have yet to meet. I don't need to do that, but I do dream about the food that is forbidden (for the time being)!
Since women have been mentioned, I think most here would agree that eastern European women might just have one up on those from the United states.
Av touched on Tesla cars, made in Fremont, California. I'm not sure however I don't think the UK or other European countries have such an advanced all electric car in production. The Tesla is very popular in Norway as there are huge incentives for purchasing an electric car there.
https://www.teslamotors.com/models
Sure its administration and inventor are American, but its design is Italian and its factories are all around the world.
Av touched on Tesla cars, made in Fremont, California. I'm not sure however I don't think the UK or other European countries have such an advanced all electric car in production. The Tesla is very popular in Norway as there are huge incentives for purchasing an electric car there.
https://www.teslamotors.com/models
Tesla's for Europe are made in Tilburg, Netherlands.
so there goes that fantasy, that Europe doesn't make all-electric cars.
In fact, Tesla is a global world-wide company with roots in many countries.
Sure its administration and inventor are American, but its design is Italian and its factories are all around the world.
Lemon curd is a favourite and one reason that I am happy that the civilising influence of Marks and Spencer has found its way to here!
All the major car manufacturers are testing, engineering and developing electric car platforms. Both BMW and Mercedes have it seem to have very good hybrid/electric vehicles on the market now.I totally forgot about BMW.
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Av touched on Tesla cars, made in Fremont, California. I'm not sure however I don't think the UK or other European countries have such an advanced all electric car in production. The Tesla is very popular in Norway as there are huge incentives for purchasing an electric car there.
https://www.teslamotors.com/models
Tesla's for Europe are made in Tilburg, Netherlands.
so there goes that fantasy, that Europe doesn't make all-electric cars.
In fact, Tesla is a global world-wide company with roots in many countries.
Sure its administration and inventor are American, but its design is Italian and its factories are all around the world.
I mentioned this before the Tesla car is assembled in Tilburg. Assembled being the important word. Though Toyota with the Prius was together with a less successful Honda model were the first hybrid/electric cars on the market recently.
All the major car manufacturers are testing, engineering and developing electric car platforms. Both BMW and Mercedes have it seem to have very good hybrid/electric vehicles on the market now.
In the for what is worth department long ago at the infancy of motorized vehicles there was a strong competition between electric (battery) powered vehicles and those that derived there power from combustion or steam power.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Nissan Leaf one of the first electric cars to be on the market?The Leaf started production in Januari 2010, Tesla Roadster (the first model) also started production in Jan. 2010.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Nissan Leaf one of the first electric cars to be on the market?The Leaf started production in Januari 2010, Tesla Roadster (the first model) also started production in Jan. 2010.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Nissan Leaf one of the first electric cars to be on the market?The Leaf started production in Januari 2010, Tesla Roadster (the first model) also started production in Jan. 2010.
The Prius was on the market in the United States before the end of the last century. The police in Kiev have a large number as patrol cars for I think ten plus years, might explain why they can not catch some of the robber barons in the Rada.
NB: EDIT: Andrew posted just before me ~ electric cars existed in various forms from the 19th century until the early 20th century. In The Hague, The Netherlands is a large automobile collection where there are several early electric vehicles that can be viewed.
I was under the impression, that the Prius was a Hybrid, rather than an all electric car, at least until much more recent "plug in" model...You are correct, the Prius is a plugin-hybrid. It isn't a true electric car because its gasoline engine drives the wheels together with the combustion engine.
I was under the impression, that the Prius was a Hybrid, rather than an all electric car, at least until much more recent "plug in" model...You are correct, the Prius is a plugin-hybrid. It isn't a true electric car because its gasoline engine drives the wheels together with the combustion engine.
Therefore, they do not meet the mark Anteros set earlier in this thread.
No. The fact that you can add bhp from both should be a clueI was under the impression, that the Prius was a Hybrid, rather than an all electric car, at least until much more recent "plug in" model...You are correct, the Prius is a plugin-hybrid. It isn't a true electric car because its gasoline engine drives the wheels together with the combustion engine.
Therefore, they do not meet the mark Anteros set earlier in this thread.
Doesn't the Pruis petrol engine merely drive generators to charge the batteries that drive the wheels?
So there is no direct drive connection from engine to wheels.
I test drove one once (ages ago - non-plugin model) and I sure the engine was mostly off during the drive, only starting to charge the battery when needed.
Plastic car inside, really nasty...
Well Mark, Tesla is still an American company and this thread is USA vs. Europe. Seeing that going back we had electric Studebaker's and later Tesla it seems that the USA is still ON TOP! :laugh: :gousa:
You can go fly a kite and if you're lucky maybe you'll catch some free electricity while you're at it.
No. The fact that you can add bhp from both should be a clueI was under the impression, that the Prius was a Hybrid, rather than an all electric car, at least until much more recent "plug in" model...You are correct, the Prius is a plugin-hybrid. It isn't a true electric car because its gasoline engine drives the wheels together with the combustion engine.
Therefore, they do not meet the mark Anteros set earlier in this thread.
Doesn't the Pruis petrol engine merely drive generators to charge the batteries that drive the wheels?
So there is no direct drive connection from engine to wheels.
I test drove one once (ages ago - non-plugin model) and I sure the engine was mostly off during the drive, only starting to charge the battery when needed.
Plastic car inside, really nasty...
Well Mark, Tesla is still an American company and this thread is USA vs. Europe. Seeing that going back we had electric Studebaker's and later Tesla it seems that the USA is still ON TOP! :laugh: :gousa:
You can go fly a kite and if you're lucky maybe you'll catch some free electricity while you're at it.
Im surprised you can actually post with that slow internet over there
All except the american bit. Tesla is/was always-will-be a global worldwide company.Well Mark, Tesla is still an American company and this thread is USA vs. Europe. Seeing that going back we had electric Studebaker's and later Tesla it seems that the USA is still ON TOP! :laugh: :gousa:
You can go fly a kite and if you're lucky maybe you'll catch some free electricity while you're at it.
Im surprised you can actually post with that slow internet over there
So you agree that Tesla is currently the most successful, quickest and best looking all ELECTRIC vehicle and that it is indeed American? Go ahead, admit it. You'll feel better once you do. :-*
All except the american bit. Tesla is/was always-will-be a global worldwide company.Well Mark, Tesla is still an American company and this thread is USA vs. Europe. Seeing that going back we had electric Studebaker's and later Tesla it seems that the USA is still ON TOP! :laugh: :gousa:
You can go fly a kite and if you're lucky maybe you'll catch some free electricity while you're at it.
Im surprised you can actually post with that slow internet over there
So you agree that Tesla is currently the most successful, quickest and best looking all ELECTRIC vehicle and that it is indeed American? Go ahead, admit it. You'll feel better once you do. :-*
Design: By Lotus, modeled after the Lotus Elise
Powertrain+gearbox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BorgWarner (worldwide)
Assemblage: worldwide
Manufactoring: Worldwide
Batteries: Chinese! (hehehe).
Original idea: Saoudi Arabia (yes, that took me as a shock as well, but some guys there invented it, elon musk only funded it afterward)
Small steps there, Small steps.
It's an American company and most of the manufacturing is done in Fremont, California. I realize it annoys you to admit this. Doesn't matter who thought of what, an American, in the United States of America, made it a reality.
Tesla is a marvelous demonstration of the technique of subsidy hunting.
Every car that Tesla makes is sold at a huge loss - and that will not change.
Every car that Tesla makes is subsidized by US tax payers - every USAian owns a slice of every Tesla being riven anywhere in the world - except that none of you will ever benefit from it. The benefits flow to Elon Musk and a small group of private shareholders.
Musk is a genius, a genius at spotting areas of enterprise where the government will either pay for, or underwrite, the business whilst letting him keep any profits. All upside, no downside.
Tesla are a tiny, niche manufacturer in a niche in which they are a niche player - look at the numbers, I have posted them on this site before now. The chances that they will scale to 1000% of current output in the next two years? HAHAHAHHAHAHA! But Musk will profit from every penny of taxpayers money being lavished up his businesses.
You're a funny guy - relying on Manny to project your howlers from being mocked
Previously you quoted Teslas sales figures - in relation to other EVs and under misrepresented their sales by a quarter of a million
Then you neglected to point out their order book - which was double their previous entire sales.
Another andrewfi fail
''Tesla expects to become profitable in 2016, shares surge'' - Feb 2016
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-results-idUSKCN0VJ2J6 (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-results-idUSKCN0VJ2J6)
Since that article was written - shares are up 25 percent
Not to gloat but tesla is still a huge money pit
Not to gloat but tesla is still a huge money pit
Markje,
1/ Deliveries up
Why don't you CHECK ?
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/03/teslas-2016-deliveries-production/ (https://cleantechnica.com/2017/01/03/teslas-2016-deliveries-production/)
2/ Shares up
(http://charting.nasdaq.com/ext/charts.dll?2-1-14-0-0-512-03NA000000TSLA-&SF:1|5-BG=FFFFFF-BT=0-WD=635-HT=395-)
3/ In 2016 it actually managed to make a small qtrly profit in 1 qtr... It may well be a 'money pit; but investors aren't getting your message
Healthy and delicious food is available in the States. But one most be willing to pay for it. It will cost 10 to 40% more than say the quality offered by Walmart or Costco. Having noted this sometimes these mega box stores have great deals on high quality food stuffs.
The general comment about many things being more pricey in the States is true.
It is harder to compare other things such as housing, Seattle and much of California is very expensive.
I've not been over to the US for quite a few years now, but I've got fond memories of my visits to the States.
My family and some friends had been over there for a fortnight, visiting the theme parks with the kids and then taking a large house for the week on an island in the Gulf coast. The weather was great for the time of year and the holiday was generally a success. However, when we were driving home from the airport my parents made some surprising observations and at first I thought they were joking.
First of all, they found it much more expensive. OK back in the heyday of $2 to the £1, it was pretty cheap living. But even so, they noticed that supermarket shopping and general groceries were way more expensive than the UK. My dad said that he'd picked up the usual nibbles and essentials but ended up paying around $180 on average, for what you'd expect to pay £40-50 for in the Uk. I remember milk being one of them $6-8 for something we'd pay £2 for. Fresh fish from the market to cook back at the house was expensive. Alcohol was also pretty steep, way more expensive than the UK and it made London sound reasonable value.
The other was the quality of the food. They ate in all kinds of establishments and quite a few expensive, well respected restaurants but they described it as salty junk. Huge portions with no real quality to it. I raised my eyebrows at that because that's not what I remembered from 10 years back. The other comment was that all the beer was shit. Now I know, there is good food in the US and some people like American beer....but I was shocked because my folks are very well travelled but clearly decided the quality was generally low.
The old " the food is terrible" in the UK, is up there with the best myths including the tight Scotsman. It might have been true at some point but I think the food and drinks industry has come a long way over here, with no shortage of good food, local suppliers, sustainability and freshness.
Food for thought as they say.....
Whole Foods and Trader Joe's is high quality stuff...probably similar to Waitrose in the UK.
AvHdB, given the intense rivalry between Ali and Lidl the suggestion that Trader Joe's merely rebrands Lidl produce is risible.
If you were to be more thoughtful you'd come to the more sensible conclusion that most retailers do not manufacture their own products and so they buy from specialist suppliers. Products that carry the retailers branding are usually designed to the requirements of the retailer to meet price points, brand image and niche placement.
Because the suppliers will not usually use different base packaging materials from one buyer to another you will often find that, for example, microwave or oven resistant plastic containers will be the same for many buyers and brands. As a former retailer in the FMCG area, for a couple of years, I found it interesting, in a minor way, to identify the source of products by the packaging. Obviously as the products become less generic and more heavily branded then the packaging is customised (beverage bottles, hair care, some foodstuffs spring to mind) But Aldi and Lidl, like most other retailers do not want to spend the money on unnecessary fripperies, they concentrate upon the wrappers and the product - that's their value proposition. :)
London has good food in general but the Chinese food still can't compete with California. Go to the Chinatown in LA or San Franc and you'll know.
Chinese food is better in China I find. :coffeeread:
But I get where you're coming from.
Chinese food is better in China I find. :coffeeread:
But I get where you're coming from.
Not in my suburb! :laugh: Almost half my city is Chinese with many being wealthy, rich newcomers who will spend big money for quality food.
Even the HK people say the Cantonese cuisine here is better in general than what you can get in HK! I just had the satay beef chow fun and hainan chicken with HK dong nai cha and damn if it wasn't tasty.
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.
-v-
The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.
Yes, I see your point.
NOTE: Late to the party, just thought I would throw my two kopecks
out there.(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)
British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.
-v-
The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.
Yes, I see your point.
NOBODY DREAMS of A European model if the woman is a Feminist which
100% outside the FSU are.
Let's see
British food, French organizational abilities and business acumen, Dutch
generosity, German poetry, Danish taxes, Italian punctuality and FSU
graft. :laugh:
VS
Cajun food, American barbecue and meat, American business acumen,
American generosity, American and English poetry, American punctuality,
and American court system, American taxes.
a large black lady give him attitude at the airport in Tampa.
a large black lady give him attitude at the airport in Tampa.
Atlanta is worse. :-X
Gotta love the brainless employee you get in the US. I once had a border guy unable to grasp the concept that I'll drive south and get a hotel tonight so I dont know what my address will be. He construed that into my being a "vagrant" and offered to deport me unless I gave him an address, goddammit.
Fine. 1234 Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Orlando, FL12345. He was happy with that. Thick as pig sh!t. :coffeeread:
I guessed it would turn into something like this and its normal for us to be proud of the best things our country has to offer. Plus, if everything was as good as back home, we'd have nothing to complain about on holiday!!
Bill - If I were sad and lonely enough, I could give you bad examples of each of your American positives but I'm not stupid enough to say all US food is bad and the American Court System is amazing. Likewise, the stuff about squint teeth, bad food, the weather, Muslims raping kids and so on, isn't generally representative of the Uk.
a large black lady give him attitude at the airport in Tampa.
Atlanta is worse. :-X
Gotta love the brainless employee you get in the US. I once had a border guy unable to grasp the concept that I'll drive south and get a hotel tonight so I dont know what my address will be. He construed that into my being a "vagrant" and offered to deport me unless I gave him an address, goddammit.
Fine. 1234 Ronald Reagan Boulevard, Orlando, FL12345. He was happy with that. Thick as pig sh!t. :coffeeread:
I guessed it would turn into something like this and its normal for us to be proud of the best things our country has to offer. Plus, if everything was as good as back home, we'd have nothing to complain about on holiday!!
Bill - If I were sad and lonely enough, I could give you bad examples of each of your American positives but I'm not stupid enough to say all US food is bad and the American Court System is amazing. Likewise, the stuff about squint teeth, bad food, the weather, Muslims raping kids and so on, isn't generally representative of the Uk.
Manny started it but If you can't tease the UK about food and weather then
what's the world coming to? Teeth was a bit of a low (and outdated) blow, I
didn't mention Muslims, child rapists and such. Next I'll be hearing complaints
from German poets?
In a country where, outside of Kiev, one might expect to earn perhaps $200 per month, it is hard to imagine how such a place might be considered a part of the advanced world.
People often view Cali as a glamorous location, with plenty cash and liberal ideals but here's another side to it, in the eyes of Tyson Fury. If I were American, I'd be wanting my government to spend its cash on fixing your own problems, before scattering it around the globe in the pursuit of influence.
People often view Cali as a glamorous location, with plenty cash and liberal ideals but here's another side to it, in the eyes of Tyson Fury. If I were American, I'd be wanting my government to spend its cash on fixing your own problems, before scattering it around the globe in the pursuit of influence.
It's an excellent point, the homeless population which is primarily people
with mental health issues or drug addicts. There was a book then a movie
many moons ago called "The one who flew over the Cuckoos Nest" which
made many liberals believe that we needed to empty the lunatic asylums
and let people suffering from paranoid schizophrenia free, thinking that they
are just a quirky Jack Nicholson who could fend for themselves.
They also set up a set of laws protecting their rights from being detained
for their own good. The problems with people suffering from schizophrenia
is that they are paranoid and think everyone else is crazy instead of them.
Many people suffering from schizophrenia can be treated with medication.
However being paranoid they are sure that the medication is the cause of
their problems and that everyone else is crazy besides themselves.
They have a chemical imbalance inside their brains and that imbalance
causes them to act totally irrationally. They could no longer hold down
a job than they could use time travel and make a killing on the stock
market.
There isn't any law that can force them to take medication and without it
they can't function, so they live in the streets. Once again a liberal solution
caused more problems than they solved but prefer to blame unrelated things
rather than find an actual solution.
If you talk about the homeless problem a liberal will decry the lack of affordable
housing, without knowing that their own regulations against building are one
of the biggest parts of the high cost of building and that schizophrenic couldn't
pay $100 per month and would probably burn the place down in any case.
Liberal solutions never help the solve the problems which they caused to
begin with.
So we have the crazies crapping in the streets rather than a mental hospital,
living on panhandling and theft. They tend to live in areas that are governed
by liberals because they have the fewest laws against pooping in public.
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
Yes agreed. Detroit was once a World class city. The leadership has been Democratic for decades, they stole money and drove the city into bankruptcy. Parts of it look like a war zone. Certainly not befitting for a nation which claims to be "exceptional".
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
More exaggerated nonsense from Rosvo
1/ I 'missed that the UK Conservative party was 'liberal'
2/ The UK spends 0.7 on foreign aid and wiser posters realise that as these economies expand, creating middle classes ....who they will spend their money with...
So that would be.....China....who are more more pro-active.
Are the Chinese 'liberal' ?...
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
More exaggerated nonsense from Rosvo
1/ I 'missed that the UK Conservative party was 'liberal'
2/ The UK spends 0.7 on foreign aid and wiser posters realise that as these economies expand, creating middle classes ....who they will spend their money with...
So that would be.....China....who are more more pro-active.
Are the Chinese 'liberal' ?...
1) Even conservatives have to bow to liberal junkies and do things that are less than sensible to suppress the hate. We’ve already seen what liberal hate brings. I also feel slight embarrassed for you, that this needs explaining but you do know that it’s not a room full of conservatives who distribute each penny? Funds are allocated to groups, departments and organizations, mostly filled with liberal fuzzy thinking idiots who love to waste other people’s hard earned cash.
2) 13.9 billion pounds is an acceptable amount to waste on others? You think giving millions of pounds to China to help them develop football, whilst their clubs pay players £600k a week is a good thing? You think it’s good to waste money helping farm coconuts in the Caribbean, juggling lessons and pop bands in Africa and a theme park that’s unused in Afghanistan? The list goes on yet you probably agree because you enjoy wasting other people’s money.
If the budget was actually spent on projects that are sensible, considered and thought through whilst actually doing some good, as opposed to be pissed against the wall by a civil servant, I wouldn’t have a problem. But when I pay more tax to fund a project in China telling school kids that they need to eat less salt, you can GFU.
1) Even conservatives have to bow to liberal junkies and do things that are less than sensible to suppress the hate. We’ve already seen what liberal hate brings. I also feel slight embarrassed for you, that this needs explaining but you do know that it’s not a room full of conservatives who distribute each penny? Funds are allocated to groups, departments and organizations, mostly filled with liberal fuzzy thinking idiots who love to waste other people’s hard earned cash.
2) 13.9 billion pounds is an acceptable amount to waste on others?
You think giving millions of pounds to China to help them develop football, whilst their clubs pay players £600k a week is a good thing?
If the budget was actually spent on projects that are sensible, considered and thought through whilst actually doing some good, as opposed to be pissed against the wall by a civil servant, I wouldn’t have a problem. But when I pay more tax to fund a project in China telling school kids that they need to eat less salt, you can GFU.
In the UK, the liberals also have an unhealthy obsession with throwing money at foreign countries and immigrants. I always thought it was some kind of hangover or guilt from the days of the Empire. We’ve got far too many UK nationals who need more support yet the clowns in control fall over themselves, being more than generous to others.
Look at all the foreign aid you guys dish out yet large parts of Detroit, Cali, New Orleans and so on, look like the 3rd world. Grim.
More exaggerated nonsense from Rosvo
1/ I 'missed that the UK Conservative party was 'liberal'
2/ The UK spends 0.7 on foreign aid and wiser posters realise that as these economies expand, creating middle classes ....who they will spend their money with...
So that would be.....China....who are more more pro-active.
Are the Chinese 'liberal' ?...
1) Even conservatives have to bow to liberal junkies and do things that are less than sensible to suppress the hate. We’ve already seen what liberal hate brings. I also feel slight embarrassed for you, that this needs explaining but you do know that it’s not a room full of conservatives who distribute each penny? Funds are allocated to groups, departments and organizations, mostly filled with liberal fuzzy thinking idiots who love to waste other people’s hard earned cash.
2) 13.9 billion pounds is an acceptable amount to waste on others? You think giving millions of pounds to China to help them develop football, whilst their clubs pay players £600k a week is a good thing? You think it’s good to waste money helping farm coconuts in the Caribbean, juggling lessons and pop bands in Africa and a theme park that’s unused in Afghanistan? The list goes on yet you probably agree because you enjoy wasting other people’s money.
If the budget was actually spent on projects that are sensible, considered and thought through whilst actually doing some good, as opposed to be pissed against the wall by a civil servant, I wouldn’t have a problem. But when I pay more tax to fund a project in China telling school kids that they need to eat less salt, you can GFU.
Hey Rosco,
I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other however I'm curious, are you one who wishes for Scottish independence from the UK?
I voted for independence during the last referendum but the political landscapes changed so much since then. Right now I have no appetite for it and the country should be focusing on making Brexit a success.
I voted for independence during the last referendum but the political landscapes changed so much since then. Right now I have no appetite for it and the country should be focusing on making Brexit a success.
What Rosco isn't telling you is that Scotland wants to remain in the EU and a 'Brexit' will ensure another Scots referendum on remaining in the Union
Scotland doesn't get a vote on its own as it isnt an independent country.
I voted for independence during the last referendum but the political landscapes changed so much since then. Right now I have no appetite for it and the country should be focusing on making Brexit a success.
What Rosco isn't telling you is that Scotland wants to remain in the EU and a 'Brexit' will ensure another Scots referendum on remaining in the Union
Scotland doesn't get a vote on its own as it isnt an independent country.
Then the English can work out how to handle another EU frontier