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Information & Chat => Travel Discussion: Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Baltics & The Stans => Topic started by: Omega1982 on March 15, 2019, 02:21:15 PM
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As I've stated here before I love to travel. I've seen all of Eastern Europe and I was only missing Romania. So recently I decided to spend a couple of days there. I want to share some thoughts and ideas. The airport is quite old and in bad shape, as is some parts of the city. I wonder why the dating scene didn't take off in Romania, because it looks worse than Ukraine. Also the excessive graffiti and some shady individuals roaming the streets and the presence of all the massage parlors and the sort, shows lack of a strong government. I was told by a restaurant manager not to take a taxi because they will rip you off. Before I arrived I looked some of the few profiles from Romania on the dating sites and many were outright scammers / fake profiles and others were age 30 for example and looking for a guy up to 70 so this is obviously fake. Yet the old architecture is beautiful, there's a lot to see and the women are stunningly beautiful. Any thoughts?
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As I've stated here before I love to travel. I've seen all of Eastern Europe and I was only missing Romania. So recently I decided to spend a couple of days there. I want to share some thoughts and ideas. The airport is quite old and in bad shape, as is some parts of the city. I wonder why the dating scene didn't take off in Romania, because it looks worse than Ukraine. Also the excessive graffiti and some shady individuals roaming the streets and the presence of all the massage parlors and the sort, shows lack of a strong government. I was told by a restaurant manager not to take a taxi because they will rip you off. Before I arrived I looked some of the few profiles from Romania on the dating sites and many were outright scammers / fake profiles and others were age 30 for example and looking for a guy up to 70 so this is obviously fake. Yet the old architecture is beautiful, there's a lot to see and the women are stunningly beautiful. Any thoughts?
Stay away from the place, there are all gypsies there.. I have a friend who has a business there , he dumped his Romanian Gf last week.. lucky he also has a business here , said that's it for Romanian girls back to Russian..
Have a few sign up to the web site 99% of the time they are web can girls..
Wife isn't keen on them either.. ;D
I did hear they like lots of sex also so unless you have plenty of stamina like 2/3 times every day stay away :laugh:
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England is full of Romanians. Gypsies, tramps and thieves travelling Europe in search of social benefits (free money). Horrendous fat women wearing robes, sandals and primary coloured socks stalk our streets thieving and pickpocketing. We lost a mobile phone to one of them only a few weeks ago....
There was once a bloke here (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=255) who married one of those women. He became very angry here and had to leave. I’m not sure what became of him or his marriage. I expect she is long gone but who knows?
Romania is the armpit of Europe. I expect it is mostly empty because most of them are in England stealing, thieving, robbing, mugging, pickpocketing, claiming benefits and stealing our healthcare and benefits. They are the parasites of Europe.
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Whether it is earned or not I do not know but, Romanians have a bad reputation in NL also.
Same complaints. Thieves, rippoffs, scammers, etc.
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I did hear they like lots of sex also so unless you have plenty of stamina like 2/3 times every day stay away :laugh:
Nymphos? Manna from heaven. :loving: :ROFL:
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England is full of Romanians. Gypsies, tramps and thieves travelling Europe in search of social benefits
Hmmm.. I think this a potential plagiarism of the Cher song. :chuckle:
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1/ Romania does is not a former FSU or Stan...
2/ The usual culprits posting generalised rascistfibs about the vast majority of Romanians.
'Romany' folk are to be found all over Europe... Romanian people are not Romany..
Romanians are being exploited for cheap labour as muchvas they are a 'crime wave'... I worked with several in Cyprus..
I know a single RU Lithuanian woman in Manchester who has lived in the UK 7 years and she is ot entitled to benefits...
Why do some folks think the 'leave' style scare stories re 'bad' migrants will still wash?
Personally, speaking I like brunette women, but I would not say Romanian women are as attractive as those from the FSU as mixing ethnically was less common.
To each his own.
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Last trip to London..
A few Romanians..
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20155887_10210277651634434_1451966929148874493_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_eui2=AeH6ugX8VsXZtIXyK97b5HjrK2UqJlJl4MWi9XGrD1MNHk77snFemioeLyvw6gttcYbZ6KP8tfJyGqfKC0aakCStHJbBEwTlkRTZFzVSAtBs8g&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=6497b54c1c2b19f5a95ec037b4345a32&oe=5D1A5794)
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20228297_10210277652834464_3830077015764966398_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeFvRsU9Hy0DYYx5hDLjHb8Jl8bcFAtCnpFD_x0FgEDASAMbfdaDJp98KiLt1-nEe3pn62ShAflvBmJtf1yvIFYH0QmCuKeAOhq7RSTLKnNmYw&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=7d2c25dae5348db1d40dba06c4cf7b3c&oe=5D050280)
I also have a friend from Romania, he is a web developer known him 10 years, in that 10 years he has made no money, still trying and waiting for the jackpot, he has made several web sites and given up after 12 months! Why , usual wanted a fast buck .. given up with each one , to much hard work ..on his next project already..
You'll find thousands of them in Sweden, just arrive at Gothenburg railway station.. hold on to your bags!!
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England is full of Romanians. Gypsies, tramps and thieves travelling Europe in search of social benefits
Hmmm.. I think this a potential plagiarism of the Cher song. :chuckle:
Manny doesn't believe in copyright infringement. He learned this from the Chinese.
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2/ The usual culprits posting generalised rascistfibs about the vast majority of Romanians.
Do tell us about this ‘racism’ and who the ‘usual suspects’ are? While you are about it, tell us what race Romanians are in order that people can be ‘racist’ towards them?
Naturally, we expect that you will claim to have 367 of them as personal friends and most of them will be sat at your elbow right now howling at the howlers, etc., et al.
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England is full of Romanians. Gypsies, tramps and thieves travelling Europe in search of social benefits
Hmmm.. I think this a potential plagiarism of the Cher song. :chuckle:
Manny doesn't believe in copyright infringement. He learned this from the Chinese.
I have to have a working knowledge of copyright infringement, after all, Wiz posts here. :coffeeread:
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Manny, you know you are wearing the cap and are in your usual denial mode, having posted bollox.
I have no one around me... The Nortern Qtr is quiet...
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Omega when you say the city, I assume you mean Bucharest?
I was there about 18 months ago for 4 nights and had a great time. I thought much of Bucharest was quite pretty, plenty interesting parks, rivers and architecture and generally pretty clean. Lot's of great places to eat and drink too and good value. Like all cities, I suspect it has its slum areas but we never visited. I also don't remember that the airport was all that bad?
We organised some mini bus trips to some of the usual sights, long days as its a big old country. Transylvania, Dracula's castle, Pele's castle, Brasov etc. We stopped in quite a few random places for drinks and food, had a ball. We ended up high in the mountains in some restaurant on the Sat night which had bags of character. Animal pelts on the walls, wooden chalet type set up and a pickled veg vault downstairs which the owner insisted on us touring. The food was great and we had far too much beer, wine and palinca! Ended up being about 20 quid ahead which was unbelievable. The other guests and staff thought we were reasonably famous with our bring everything approach and song singing behaviour. Bloody great day out!
I also thought that Romania had plenty good looking women out and about, particularly in Bucharest where there is a pretty affluent scene amongst city professionals (in Romanian terms). It was a far cry from the typical gypsy look with people being well dressed and well mannered.
On the other hand, I do think that the Romanian culture has one which celebrates the scam. We were told by a younger city lad that the Romanians generally find it acceptable to cheat people out of money and its a weakness on the victims part if the are parted with their cash. We didn't have an awful lot of trouble and yes, we may have paid more in a few bars but it wasn't noticeable and still cheap by UK city standards. I think one of my mates challenged a bar tender once and he said, "but you guys can afford it"??
This was no better illustrated during our taxi back to the airport. It cost 6 of us about £15 on the way in but on the way home we were all a bit tired, merry and not particularly bothered that the mini bus driver charged us £40. I asked him about it and he just smiled and shrugged! Karma has a funny way of evening things up and when he opened the side door to let us in, I found 50 Euro lying on the floor from the last guest so I waved it at him, smiled and shrugged back.
He was gutted but I could tell that he accepted it because this was Romanian rules!! ;D
All that said, the Romanians we come into contact with across the cities in Europe are the dregs of their society. No money, possibly no hope but they have access to our world via the EU. Some come to beg, some come to steal and others set up organised crime gangs. Irrespective of what Moby says, unless you're in Bucharest city centre, the vast majority Romanians you'll encounter in Europe are gypsies, tramps and thieves. One of my mates who was on the trip said that he'd asked a Romanian female colleague, who lives in Ireland now, about Romania pre trip. Even she said, watch your valuables and don't get scammed.......
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"but you guys can afford it"?? That exactly sums it up!
It means if you have worked bloody hard for a living you should be willing to give some of that hard earned cash to someone who has never heard of the word "Hard work" it doesn't exist in their vocabulary , who want's to work ? Why should I work? Im not paid enough to work.. usual mentality ..
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Manny, you know you are wearing the cap and are in your usual denial mode, having posted bollox.
I have no one around me... The Nortern Qtr is quiet...
What are you blathering about? You Guardianistas support any and all immigrants and lie your arses off to protect them. Why?
Still waiting for you to tell us what race Romanians are to support your knee jerk cry of "racism ". Take your time. :chuckle:
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Most Romanians are Orthodox Christians who zealously observe religious holidays. :thumbsup:
At 28 minutes in my video there is a map of the countries of residence of the Gypsies. Here he lead sedentary lifestyle. tiphat
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Manny, you know you are wearing the cap and are in your usual denial mode, having posted bollox.
I have no one around me... The Nortern Qtr is quiet...
What are you blathering about? You Guardianistas support any and all immigrants and lie your arses off to protect them. Why?
Still waiting for you to tell us what race Romanians are to support your knee jerk cry of "racism ". Take your time. :chuckle:
Great question.
It is most odd that liberals like Moby, continually lie to protect groups of people who we all know to be problematic. The Guardian is a nest for these types and reading comments attributed to bias news posts is somewhat predictable if not a little bamboozling.
Take last weeks events for example. A post reporting the mosque attack predictably had fuzzy lefty's all falling over each other to point out that the guy must be labeled a terrorist immediately and that all should take note that this was an attack carried out by a white male with far right views on a poor and innocent muslim group.
The same wally's then fail to virtue signal when other events happen around the globe, caused by said muslim group, in disproportionate numbers. :'(
Tell us Moby, why do you and your lefty friends lie and virtue signal to protect said groups who should be under the microscope? Why do you lot get more worked up about the made up gender pay gap and other made up liberal shyte than say, the child grooming and abuse from Pakistani sex gangs?
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http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,27864.msg491187.html#msg491187
Those aren't Romanians, they are Roma. They are an ethnic minority in Romania.
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If I'm not mistaken a number of years ago we had a member named Paul? Who was married to a woman from Romania. He was a bit sensitive, a photographer but he made a number of rather interesting observations regarding the country and the people.
Would be worthwhile looking back into them if one desires more background.
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http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,27864.msg491187.html#msg491187
Those aren't Romanians, they are Roma. They are an ethnic minority in Romania.
Is that not a bit like saying Asian people who are born in Scotland for example, aren’t Scottish?
Or ethnic Chinese born in Canada not being Canadian?
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When Asian people in Scotland start self segregating in villages, don't send their children to school with locals, marry their daughters off in arranged marriages to those from their own "tribe", often at ages far less than is legal, then the situations will be comparable.
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Roscoe, Halo is correct.
There are numerous lines of thinking about the origin of the Roma.
Those who identify as Romanian are a different ethnic group from the Roma who are spread across Europe. I am confident you will find them in Scotland.
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When Asian people in Scotland start self segregating in villages, don't send their children to school with locals, marry their daughters off in arranged marriages to those from their own "tribe", often at ages far less than is legal, then the situations will be comparable.
The sad reality is that it’s not overly dissimilar.
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When Asian people in Scotland start self segregating in villages, don't send their children to school with locals, marry their daughters off in arranged marriages to those from their own "tribe", often at ages far less than is legal, then the situations will be comparable.
The sad reality is that it’s not overly dissimilar.
Could be because the Roma are thought to have migrated to Europe from the Indian subcontinent about 500yrs ago.
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What are you blathering about?
I stated your post was rascist ignorance..what was hard to understand. Have you been to Romania?..worked alongside Romanians?
My local carwash is now almost entirely Romanian workers and they do a great job ..)
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Irrespective of what Moby says, unless you're in Bucharest city centre, the vast majority Romanians you'll encounter in Europe are gypsies, tramps and thieves.
Utter twaddle. So typical of you. You do know that the UK govt can exclude criminals from entering the UK even if EU citizens..
Still waiting for you to tell us what race Romanians are to support your knee jerk cry of "racism ". Take your time. :chuckle:
And you will allow the response through this time?
Check up the definition of racism in law according to England and Wales..It includes race and Creed.
I note the Tories are ridding themselves of those with Islamophobic tendancies...
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Great question.
Then why was I not allowed to answer?....
It is most odd that liberals like Moby, continually lie to protect groups of people who we all know to be problematic. The Guardian is a nest for these types and reading comments attributed to bias news posts is somewhat predictable if not a little bamboozling.
This Tory voting 'liberal' is once again wondering at why you are making stuff up about someone with whom you cannot agree
You are fibbing..not I..
Pointing out ignorance rec'Muslima' or Romanians is not lying... It is my experience..
Suggesting someone receiving the Torygrapgh daily inquirer Guardian reader is always funny, though..
Take last weeks events for example. A post reporting the mosque attack predictably had fuzzy lefty's all falling over each other to point out that the guy must be labeled a terrorist immediately and that all should take note that this was an attack carried out by a white male with far right views on a poor and innocent muslim group.
The same wally's then fail to virtue signal when other events happen around the globe, caused by said muslim group, in disproportionate numbers. :'(
Unlike your goodself, I refrain from engaging re such violent acts..as to the 'motivation' until much more is known..
Tell us Moby, why do you and your lefty friends lie and virtue signal to protect said groups who should be under the microscope? Why do you lot get more worked up about the made up gender pay gap and other made up liberal shyte than say, the child grooming and abuse from Pakistani sex gangs?
'lefty friends'?
Don't you mean friends who might be from countries where they would be regarded as Muslims?
I do not have too many 'lefty friends'.. I do know some exceedingly intelligent people whose politics might not match mine and we do not feel the need to attach daft labels or indulge in violent acts...or call each other names..
Speaking personally, ignorant people..who generalise lots and who are not aware they demonstrate such traits amuse
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I do not have too many 'lefty friends'..
Fixed that for you. :coffeeread:
I won’t bother replying to your ramblings, other than to suggest you are lying and are incorrect, because it reminds me of wrestling with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it.
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Pooh that was bitchy... But I didn't expect you to deal with fact...
You need to deal with your own issues much closer to home....
Villagers can be such gossips..
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Roma people are Indian looking not European...saw a few of them begging while I was in Russia..sad
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You need to deal with your own issues much closer to home....
Villagers can be such gossips..
Nice try. :ROFL:
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You need to deal with your own issues much closer to home....
Villagers can be such gossips..
Nice try. :ROFL:
Indeed, I sank to your level ...
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Irrespective of what Moby says, unless you're in Bucharest city centre, the vast majority Romanians you'll encounter in Europe are gypsies, tramps and thieves.
Utter twaddle. So typical of you. You do know that the UK govt can exclude criminals from entering the UK even if EU citizens..
Utter twaddle indeed. You're again lying because you can't help yourself. If the UK government has the capability and ability to exclude criminals from entering the UK from the EU, then why are the jails full of them, why are organised criminal gangs from Romania freely operating in the big cities, why is it that I did a simple google search and an array of links popped up?
https://www.google.com/search?ei=h9aUXOnaNLqu1fAPs6So-AM&q=romanian+criminals+come+into+uk+undetected&oq=romanian+criminals+come+into+uk+undetected&gs_l=psy-ab.3...9515.13685..13926...0.0..0.166.2501.9j14......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i22i30j33i160j33i21j33i22i29i30.BqJCL3UDlD0
Are you saying that the government has chosen to let them in? I say the government can't control it. If you dispute all this then I'm afraid you're very much a fuzzy thinking lefty, possibly with no friends.
Romanians like the Muzzies, cause a disproportionate amount of crime yet you lot argue until your blue in the face. Sadly, some of you lot campaign for more to be imported and even after your own wives and daughters have been raped or murderd, you still don't have the balls to say you're wrong.
Most Romanians are decent people. A disproportionate number of Romanian's emigrating to wealthy European countries are beggars, tramps & criminals.
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Romanians like the Muzzies, cause a disproportionate amount of crime yet you lot argue until your blue in the face. Sadly, some of you lot campaign for more to be imported and even after your own wives and daughters have been raped or murdered, you still don't have the balls to say you're wrong.
I don't know what it is about the loony left that makes them lie so, when we can all see as plain as the long nose on Moby's face that your comments are correct and his patently wrong. You will know of course that Moby has 167 close Romanian friends he happens to be sat with at this very moment who are surely all sat in their stolen mercs laughing their arses off at our "howlers". :chuckle:
Most Romanians are decent people. A disproportionate number of Romanian's emigrating to wealthy European countries are beggars, tramps & criminals.
You have clarified something I wasn't clear enough on earlier: I'm sure that the majority of people in Romania are alright, as people anywhere are. The ones we get here are their dregs of society by the look of it and the afore-mentioned gypsies, tramps and thieves.
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Romanians like the Muzzies, cause a disproportionate amount of crime yet you lot argue until your blue in the face. Sadly, some of you lot campaign for more to be imported and even after your own wives and daughters have been raped or murdered, you still don't have the balls to say you're wrong.
I don't know what it is about the loony left that makes them lie so, when we can all see as plain as the long nose on Moby's face that your comments are correct and his patently wrong. You will know of course that Moby has 167 close Romanian friends he happens to be sat with at this very moment who are surely all sat in their stolen mercs laughing their arses off at our "howlers". :chuckle:
Most Romanians are decent people. A disproportionate number of Romanian's emigrating to wealthy European countries are beggars, tramps & criminals.
You have clarified something I wasn't clear enough on earlier: I'm sure that the majority of people in Romania are alright, as people anywhere are. The ones we get here are their dregs of society by the look of it and the afore-mentioned gypsies, tramps and thieves.
I have some Romanian ancestry, thankfully not of the gippo variety and regrettably, it is a fair statement that the vast majority of ‘Romanians’ living across the EU and in Britain are of the kind who thieve and cheat and scrounge off the state.
The UK prison figures reflect this. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf)
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Irrespective of what Moby says, unless you're in Bucharest city centre, the vast majority Romanians you'll encounter in Europe are gypsies, tramps and thieves.
Utter twaddle. So typical of you. You do know that the UK govt can exclude criminals from entering the UK even if EU citizens..
Utter twaddle indeed. You're again lying because you can't help yourself. If the UK government has the capability and ability to exclude criminals from entering the UK from the EU, then why are the jails full of them, why are organised criminal gangs from Romania freely operating in the big cities, why is it that I did a simple google search and an array of links popped up?
It is truly STUPID to suggest 'lying' to someone who is clearly more conversant with EU Directives to which the UK is obligated to obey ..
Where such a decision is taken, it must be in line with the following principles:
• the decision must comply with the principle of proportionality
• the decision must be based exclusively on the personal conduct of the person
concerned
• the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine,
present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests
of society, taking into account past conduct of the individual and that the threat
does not need to be imminent
• matters isolated from the particulars of the case or which relate to
considerations of general prevention do not justify the decision
• the individual’s previous criminal convictions do not in themselves justify the
decision
• the decision may be taken on preventative grounds, even in the absence of a
previous criminal conviction, provided the grounds are specific to the person
Romanians like the Muzzies, cause a disproportionate amount of crime yet you lot argue until your blue in the face. Sadly, some of you lot campaign for more to be imported and even after your own wives and daughters have been raped or murderd, you still don't have the balls to say you're wrong.
Most Romanians are decent people. A disproportionate number of Romanian's emigrating to wealthy European countries are beggars, tramps & criminals.
More inaccurate, Ill-informed , ignorance from Rosco..
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I have some Romanian ancestry, thankfully not of the gippo variety and regrettably, it is a fair statement that the vast majority of ‘Romanians’ living across the EU and in Britain are of the kind who thieve and cheat and scrounge off the state.
The UK prison figures reflect this. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf)
So based on your stats.. Lithuanians are proportionally more criminal than Romanians?...Based on population ratio..
Well now...
Anyone else got any other daft prejudices they need exorcised?
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I have some Romanian ancestry, thankfully not of the gippo variety and regrettably, it is a fair statement that the vast majority of ‘Romanians’ living across the EU and in Britain are of the kind who thieve and cheat and scrounge off the state.
The UK prison figures reflect this. (https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf)
So based on your stats.. Lithuanians are proportionally more criminal than Romanians?...Based on population ratio..
Well now...
Anyone else got any other daft prejudices they need exorcised?
And true to form Moby uses his tried and tested method, better known as the MobySwerve, to change the parameters of the discussion.
Apart from copying and pasting from the Europa site to bolster his vast knowledge of
EU directives.
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Moby do you have any other daft prejudices stupidity that needs exorcised education?
Part of the ignorance of Moby is that he cannot differentiate between two different ethnic groups. I suspect Romanians in general are decent people as far as you'd expect from someone in Eastern Europe. The Roma or gypsies are an entirely different matter. But Moby cannot or will not see that reality.
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And true to form Moby uses his tried and tested method, better known as the MobySwerve, to change the parameters of the discussion.
Apart from copying and pasting from the Europa site to bolster his vast knowledge of
EU directives.
Dear DS
Copy and pasting FACT ..the law..to bust the bollox being written here..and you 'object'?))
Naturally, I know the wording of this particular Directive..given I have had to break it over the head of govt 'legal experts' who needed to read it, properly..
You and others have contended that Romanians are a 'crime wave'..I merely proved that it is an inaccurate portrayal...given the example re Lithuanians..
If you still wish to resort to daft labels, having been busted for inaccuracies... your chosen 'slur' will continue to amuse..
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Moby do you have any other daft prejudices stupidity that needs exorcised education?
Part of the ignorance of Moby is that he cannot differentiate between two different ethnic groups. I suspect Romanians in general are decent people as far as you'd expect from someone in Eastern Europe. The Roma or gypsies are an entirely different matter. But Moby cannot or will not see that reality.
Unlike AvHdB, I am quite aware of the common issue of Roma folk being associated with 'Romanian'
I can understand much of Romanian when written..given it's Latin base..
Roma are to be found in Kiev and Tbilisi ( example) ..they are prevalent in The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria CV and there are 12 million of them.. the largest ethnic group without nationhood in Europe.
As usual, AvHdB seems to be describing himself....
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And true to form Moby uses his tried and tested method, better known as the MobySwerve, to change the parameters of the discussion.
Apart from copying and pasting from the Europa site to bolster his vast knowledge of
EU directives.
Dear DS
Copy and pasting FACT ..the law..to bust the bollox being written here..and you 'object'?))
Naturally, I know the wording of this particular Directive..given I have had to break it over the head of govt 'legal experts' who needed to read it, properly..
You and others have contended that Romanians are a 'crime wave'..I merely proved that it is an inaccurate portrayal...given the example re Lithuanians..
If you still wish to resort to daft labels, having been busted for inaccuracies... your chosen 'slur' will continue to amuse..
But but but, the Lithuanians do it too........
How does that in any way negate the fact that the Roma engage in criminal activity?
Quoting chapter and verse and parading your self proclaimed ‘knowledge’ of EU directives doesn’t change that fact.
Stop your BS. People are tired of it.
This *snip* needs booting off the forum permanently.
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It is truly STUPID to suggest 'lying' to someone who is clearly more conversant with EU Directives to which the UK is obligated to obey ..
Where such a decision is taken, it must be in line with the following principles:
• the decision must comply with the principle of proportionality
• the decision must be based exclusively on the personal conduct of the person
concerned
• the personal conduct of the individual concerned must represent a genuine,
present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of the fundamental interests
of society, taking into account past conduct of the individual and that the threat
does not need to be imminent
• matters isolated from the particulars of the case or which relate to
considerations of general prevention do not justify the decision
• the individual’s previous criminal convictions do not in themselves justify the
decision
• the decision may be taken on preventative grounds, even in the absence of a
previous criminal conviction, provided the grounds are specific to the person
If you are so conversant with the Directive 2004/38/EU why then you encountered so many problems with the Cypriot and British Authorities?
I had none, from start to finish and was all FREE, until she applied for her UK Nationality.
I see Copy and paste does not apply to you as also not providing links to source ......
or it's your own text ?
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Moby do you have any other daft prejudices stupidity that needs exorcised education?
Part of the ignorance of Moby is that he cannot differentiate between two different ethnic groups. I suspect Romanians in general are decent people as far as you'd expect from someone in Eastern Europe. The Roma or gypsies are an entirely different matter. But Moby cannot or will not see that reality.
Unlike AvHdB, I am quite aware of the common issue of Roma folk being associated with 'Romanian'
I can understand much of Romanian when written..given it's Latin base..
Roma are to be found in Kiev and Tbilisi ( example) ..they are prevalent in The Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria CV and there are 12 million of them.. the largest ethnic group without nationhood in Europe.
As usual, AvHdB seems to be describing himself....
Yet another Moby swerve.
You contradict your self so much Moby that I am surprised you are not hanging from the masthead knotted upon in a halyard. The Roma are dispersed across the world. They survive by deception, outright theft or begging/panhandling. When things do not go there way they tend to burn the evidence. As in a collection of irreplaceable art work.
Of course Moby knows and lodges with Roma across Europe. They are just misunderstood according to the sage Moby.
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. .. gypsies, tramps and thieves.
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I can understand much of Romanian when written..given it's Latin base..
Your language skills are pitiful...you had 2 Russian "wives" and yet can barely speak a proper phrase in Russian... so now you say you can read Romanian because it is Latin based? LIE...
French, Italian, Spanish are Latin based. Don't tell me you are fluent in reading all of them too :GRRRR: :GRRRR:
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Omega when you say the city, I assume you mean Bucharest?
I was there about 18 months ago for 4 nights and had a great time.
Reading this thread with a great interest :popcorn:, 'cause I'm scheduled to visit Romania in the end of June.
To tell the truth, I also had some worries when doing business with Romanians - but so far things run more or less normal. Fee payment either in due time, or with minimal delay; flight tickets booked; suggested hotel is nice.
Some minor troubles with information (links to photos and videos approved by the artists and designed to be used for advertising) being lost along the way from the booking agent => via promoter => via advertising manager => to the actual tech who develops the visual design; but after a few kicks they quickly exchange the dreadful pics found on the web with the officially approved visuals.
I was a bit lost with visa question - 'cause I presumed that Romania is in Shengen area; the promoter's logistic manager told me it is not. But it seems I still can entry with my 5-year French multi-entry? ???
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Romania is not yet part of shengen, but it will be very soon, see:
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/european-parliament-votes-to-admit-bulgaria-and-romania-to-schengen-area/
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Romania is not yet part of shengen, but it will be very soon, see:
https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/european-parliament-votes-to-admit-bulgaria-and-romania-to-schengen-area/
Yep, so it seems they are letting in those who have "normal" Schengen visas... :-\
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Omega when you say the city, I assume you mean Bucharest?
I was there about 18 months ago for 4 nights and had a great time.
Reading this thread with a great interest :popcorn:, 'cause I'm scheduled to visit Romania in the end of June.
To tell the truth, I also had some worries when doing business with Romanians - but so far things run more or less normal. Fee payment either in due time, or with minimal delay; flight tickets booked; suggested hotel is nice.
Some minor troubles with information (links to photos and videos approved by the artists and designed to be used for advertising) being lost along the way from the booking agent => via promoter => via advertising manager => to the actual tech who develops the visual design; but after a few kicks they quickly exchange the dreadful pics found on the web with the officially approved visuals.
I was a bit lost with visa question - 'cause I presumed that Romania is in Shengen area; the promoter's logistic manager told me it is not. But it seems I still can entry with my 5-year French multi-entry? ???
How did the trip go Olga? Would be interested to get your take on the place.