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Title: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 26, 2018, 11:55:22 PM
An absolute psychopath is Dead.
History of John McCain’s Calls for War! (Compiled last year)

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Earlier this week notorious war hawk US Senator John McCain (R-Az) was diagnosed with brain cancer. While the liberal and conservative establishments are sending their regards, Geopolitics Alert instead compiled a list of reasons why we don’t care about McCain.

The list is, of course, a history of all the instances McCain has called for US-led intervention around the world. There’s clearly a long history here, so Geopolitics Alert has compiled the most blatant examples from Europe to Asia. We’ll start with the obvious wars first.

Afghanistan and Iraq

Obviously, every US Senator (besides California’s Barbara Lee) voted to give President George W. Bush the power to invade Afghanistan following the events of September 11th. However, McCain wasn’t happy with just moving to invade Afghanistan. No, he had other targets on his mind as early as the day after the towers fell.

Despite McCain’s claim in 2014 that “the Iraq war probably wouldn’t have happened” if he had won the 2000 Republican primary and the general election, this assertion seems ridiculous. On September 12th, 2001, McCain appeared on MSNBC presenting an extensive list of countries he felt were providing a “safe harbor” to groups like al Qaeda. This list, of course, included Iraq and several other nations that appear later on this list.

Syria

Another country on that 2001 list (of course) was Syria. Now, the Bush regime may have never gotten a chance to continue toppling Mideast countries (thanks to the failure in Iraq and the exposure of that war being sold on lies). But McCain seemingly never lost sight of his hatred for Bashar Al-Assad.

Shortly after the Arab Spring “broke out” in Syria, McCain – and his constant partner in war crimes Sen. Lindsey Graham – quickly found communication channels with the “Syrian opposition.” Just a few short months after the US endorsed protests in Syria (even having their ambassador attend), McCain and Graham began calling for arms to start flowing to the Free Syrian Army and other “rebel” groups.

Libya

McCain’s plans for Syria never quite worked the way he wanted, but he probably should’ve known they would never yield a positive result. If McCain didn’t want to look at Iraq to prove that point, he had another more recent example he could’ve used: the NATO intervention in Libya.

It was less than a year before McCain wanted to arm Syrian takfiris that he had supported with the bombing and no-fly zones in Libya. McCain even wanted tougher actions against the country. Which has now become an anarchic Wild West that’s home to all sorts of horrors from the Islamic State to a new slave trade.

West and Central Africa

McCain is also a champion of the “war on terror” in other parts of Africa. While McCain hasn’t directly supported terrorists in some countries in Africa, he still has called for more US intervention across the continent.

This list includes countries dealing with Islamic insurgencies, such as Mali. McCain has also called for plans like “deploying Special Forces” to rescue girls kidnapped by Boko Haram in Nigeria and intervention in Sudan, where McCain and his wife have invested money for some time.

Iran

Another country on the list of hated nations initially put forth by Bush undersecretary of defense Paul Wolfowitz, and also another longtime target of McCain is, of course, Iran.

Although McCain has always said “he prays” there will never be a war with Iran, the man incessantly calls for it and even jokes about bombing the country when he feels the mood is right. The truth of the matter is, McCain’s positions towards Iran are so hostile that even flagship neoconservative institutions like the Cato Institute think he is too hawkish.

Bosnia and Kosovo

But McCain isn’t satisfied with just backing Salafi jihadists in the traditional Middle East and North African theaters. He’s also backed violent radicals across the fringes of Europe. This trend actually started in the mid-1990’s when McCain was a vocal supporter of then-president Bill Clinton’s war in Bosnia.

Many Muslims traveling to Bosnia joining the mujahideen there have since joined groups like IS in recent years. And IS flags can occasionally be seen in the Sunni areas of Bosnia now. McCain was still backing potential Takfiri movements, recently accusing Russia of interfering in local affairs, and calling for more US intervention in the country.

McCain made similar decisions when he advocated US intervention in Kosovo in the late 90’s. In the Kosovo conflict, McCain backed the Kosovo Liberation Army: a genocidal jihadist organization with ties to Al Qaeda under Osama Bin Laden.

Ukraine

Don’t be fooled into thinking that McCain only supports jihadists in Eastern Europe! He also backs the overt Nazis acting as death squads for Kiev in the ongoing Ukrainian conflict.

This, of course, started in 2014, but McCain has continued to pledge support for Kiev’s crimes in the Donbass region to this day. This is all par for the course in McCain’s larger theme of challenging Russia– the country he believes controls the separatists in eastern Ukraine.

Russia

The story of McCain’s hatred of Russia spans back to the Cold War. We won’t get into McCain’s fear of communism that’s evolved into just general Russophobia. But we will say he didn’t have many excuses to focus on making threats towards Moscow for a good 15-20 year stretch.

This changed in 2008, with the war in South Ossetia between Georgia and Russia. During this conflict, McCain was the loudest voice saying the US “should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia’s security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation.”

This same situation repeated in Ukraine in 2014 but McCain’s worst comments came this year. As soon as the US Intelligence Community’s accused Russia of interference in the 2016 US elections– and without any evidence– McCain was first to say the event was an “act of war.”

North Korea

The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DRPK/North Korea) was also an early target of McCain’s making his September 12th wish list. More recently though, the restyled “Trump opponent” McCain was all-in on the new regime’s saber rattling. Calling on Trump to strike the nuclear-armed country.

Bonus: China

China is kind of in its own class with McCain, who’s made strange, vague threats towards the country in the past. Such as “the Arab spring is coming to China,” whatever that means. China may be a target on the periphery for McCain, but he does still encourage antagonizing the country to this day. Calling for things like more “freedom of navigation drills” and other naval exercises in the South China Sea.

So, in summation, next time someone asks why you don’t care about John McCain’s clock running out, show them this article. McCain has encouraged the spread of death worldwide. The day he leaves Congress will be a victory for the human race.

Source: Jim Carey GeopoliticsAlert (https://geopoliticsalert.com/history-john-mccain-war)

(Title at the top is mine)
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Steveboy on August 27, 2018, 12:32:44 AM
Hes on his way home... and good riddance..

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Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Contrarian on August 27, 2018, 12:45:42 AM
February 2017: “I would say John McCain’s been wrong on just about everything over the past four decades.”
After McCain slammed President Trump’s tweet calling the media “the enemy of the American people,” Paul criticized McCain’s criticism on ABC’s This Week. “Everything that he says about the president is colored by his own personal dispute he’s got running with President Trump, and it should be taken with a grain of salt, because John McCain’s the guy who’s advocated for war everywhere,” he said. “He would bankrupt the nation. We’re very lucky John McCain’s not in charge, because I think we’d be in perpetual war.



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/a-brief-history-of-john-mccain-and-rand-pauls-sick-burns.html
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Steveboy on August 27, 2018, 01:23:59 AM
Hopefully two Clintons will be following on with him to HELL!!
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: AvHdB on August 27, 2018, 02:08:49 AM
Hopefully two Clintons will be following on with him to HELL!!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 27, 2018, 05:09:28 AM
February 2017: “I would say John McCain’s been wrong on just about everything over the past four decades.”
After McCain slammed President Trump’s tweet calling the media “the enemy of the American people,” Paul criticized McCain’s criticism on ABC’s This Week. “Everything that he says about the president is colored by his own personal dispute he’s got running with President Trump, and it should be taken with a grain of salt, because John McCain’s the guy who’s advocated for war everywhere,” he said. “He would bankrupt the nation. We’re very lucky John McCain’s not in charge, because I think we’d be in perpetual war.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/a-brief-history-of-john-mccain-and-rand-pauls-sick-burns.html


“I would say John McCain’s been wrong on just about everything over the last four decades. He advocated for the Iraq War, which I think destabilized the Middle East.”

...and of course he visited secretly Syria and previously Ukraine. He was a fascist of the worst kind.

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Good Riddance!  :sick0012:

 
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: andrewfi on August 27, 2018, 05:12:49 AM
A life lived in punishing the world for the mistakes that he made as a younger man.
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: msmoby on August 27, 2018, 05:18:50 AM
Yup, it is indicative of some of this boards members that a guy who is probably braver than most of us - who would be spilling to our captives if a PoW - get 'mocked' ....

Oh dear, he was pro NATO and non US isolationist

Ah..THAT explains it ...  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: msmoby on August 27, 2018, 05:24:05 AM
Hmmm Cain was not taken in by VVP,  pro NATO and not in favour of 'Trampu's' isolationist policies... kinda explains why some folks didn't 'like' him ...

WHAT a 'surprise'

Most of wouldn't have lasted but a few days in the Hanoi Hilton and he preferred to stay on - rather than leave others behind ....  a better and braver guy that most of us -  I'll warrant

Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: AvHdB on August 27, 2018, 08:06:32 AM

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Earlier this week notorious war hawk US Senator John McCain (R-Az) was diagnosed with brain cancer. While the liberal and conservative establishments are sending their regards, Geopolitics Alert instead compiled a list of reasons why we don’t care about McCain.


The article noted has some many mistakes that it makes it almost rubbish.

First J. McCain knew and announced over a year ago that he had a brain tumor (cancer). Last week he decided to end medical treatment.

He spent some five year as a prisoner of war in the north of Vietnam and when offered an earlier release than other prisoners (because of his status) he refused.

Many of the claims are absurd in the article.

Without doubt his hawkish approach using United States military intervention did little to help the planet.
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Steveboy on August 27, 2018, 08:51:29 AM
Im sure the old **** is going to smell a little so here is something for him..or his body..

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So three left to go:

1. Hillary thieving Clinton

2. Bill thieving and lying Clinton

3. George Soros ..

Hopefully after the next three make it to HELL the world maybe a better place..


Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Contrarian on August 27, 2018, 09:00:46 AM
Yup, it is indicative of some of this boards members that a guy who is probably braver than most of us - who would be spilling to our captives if a PoW - get 'mocked' ....

Oh dear, he was pro NATO and non US isolationist

Ah..THAT explains it ...  :coffeeread:

Get out of the cave you live in and read some more.

First let me say that most of us, no matter how tough would likely fold when tortured.

Having said that McCain was known to his captors as “songbird” because he folded quickly and gave them a lot of damaging information.

This article is about fellow Vietnam Veterans who say that he quickly folded and was seen by a Soviet Doctor.

https://truthuncensored.net/john-songbird-mccain-exposed-vietnam-vets-and-pows-liar-and-fraud-video/

Because he was an Admiral’s son the pentagon kept things a secret. He used his power as a Senator to keep many details classified.

I still have empathy for him as he was badly mistreated. He refused to be released early. So his service wasn’t all bad but it wasn’t stellar either.

The Forestall incident proves that. He was hotdogging and accidentally fired a missile, causing the death of 134 fellow sailors. Again it was covered up due to Daddy being an Admiral.  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 27, 2018, 10:25:10 AM

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Earlier this week notorious war hawk US Senator John McCain (R-Az) was diagnosed with brain cancer. While the liberal and conservative establishments are sending their regards, Geopolitics Alert instead compiled a list of reasons why we don’t care about McCain.


The article noted has some many mistakes that it makes it almost rubbish.

First J. McCain knew and announced over a year ago that he had a brain tumor (cancer). Last week he decided to end medical treatment.

He spent some five year as a prisoner of war in the north of Vietnam and when offered an earlier release than other prisoners (because of his status) he refused.

Many of the claims are absurd in the article.

Without doubt his hawkish approach using United States military intervention did little to help the planet

AvHdB

If you were more observant you would have noticed that on the title, I mentioned that the article was written last year. If you were not in a hurry to dispute and criticise me as also the comments of the article, you would have gone and checked the original source and discovered that the article was posted on the 21 July 2017 by the writer Jim Carey. BTW this was a copy and paste article and I did not pretend to be mine! :P

Statements like this one of yours: “The article noted has some many mistakes that it makes it almost rubbish.” …. Indicate that you hardly read or understood the comments or meaning and purpose of the article. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, as its late afternoon and you are already under the influence of your pastime hobby and of course your need to increase the post count to justify your monthly retainer to the centre in Haifa.

The fact that he spent 5 years as a POW singing like a canary to the North Vietnamese,  makes no bloody difference to his later actions in Life, and the damage he caused around the planet, which BTW you described in your own words;

“Without doubt his hawkish approach using United States military intervention did little to help the planet.”

That say it all …… now open another bottle….. many hours remaining for your shift to finish.

 tiphat
Title: John McCain’s has died
Post by: AvHdB on August 27, 2018, 10:55:10 AM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.

Title: Re: John McCain’s has died
Post by: Steveboy on August 27, 2018, 12:10:59 PM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.


I think Adolf Hitler left some family behind??
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 27, 2018, 12:30:39 PM
AvHDB

I've been reading your delusions and dishonest inventions for over very long time as well as those posted by Moby too. I would advice you not to refer to me as the evil twin of Moby because the evil twin to him, it's you who is more closer to him with your actions than me. :evilgrin0002:

At first I tried to reach you with reason and links that respectfully rebutted your peculiar points of view. It did no good. Why? Because you're not remotely interested in learning where you might have taken a bad turn in your thought processes. You're not interested in facts that don't fit your perverted and dishonest narrative. You're not interested in the truth because you are simply... a TROLL!

You regularly make posts about things and events that bear no relationship to the subject at hand. In fact your behaviour on this site proves you to be someone not worthy of serious or respectful attention.

But, how do we ignore you when you spend whole days trolling intelligent comments destroying whatever consensus the adults in the room may have arrived at?

We need to read your "chaff" to get to the "wheat", so to speak...

One part of me wants you gone for the peace it could provide the sane members of this board but on the other hand, I feel compelled to support your right to spew whatever garbage you choose. The caveat of course is that I will only support your right to post crap right up to the point that your idiotic hasbarabot machinations harm someone or something.

You've come close to my red line several times but you appear to be aware of the fact that there is indeed a real red line you can't cross on RUA. You come right up to the line and stick your toes little over all...

Does anyone have any ideas on how to lessen the negative effects of reading the crap AvHdB spews?

If you have I'd love to hear it.

 tiphat
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: yankee on August 27, 2018, 01:35:13 PM
AvHDB

I've been reading your delusions and dishonest inventions for over very long time as well as those posted by Moby too. I would advice you not to refer to me as the evil twin of Moby because the evil twin to him, it's you who is more closer to him with your actions than me. :evilgrin0002:

At first I tried to reach you with reason and links that respectfully rebutted your peculiar points of view. It did no good. Why? Because you're not remotely interested in learning where you might have taken a bad turn in your thought processes. You're not interested in facts that don't fit your perverted and dishonest narrative. You're not interested in the truth because you are simply... a TROLL!

You regularly make posts about things and events that bear no relationship to the subject at hand. In fact your behaviour on this site proves you to be someone not worthy of serious or respectful attention.

But, how do we ignore you when you spend whole days trolling intelligent comments destroying whatever consensus the adults in the room may have arrived at?

We need to read your "chaff" to get to the "wheat", so to speak...

One part of me wants you gone for the peace it could provide the sane members of this board but on the other hand, I feel compelled to support your right to spew whatever garbage you choose. The caveat of course is that I will only support your right to post crap right up to the point that your idiotic hasbarabot machinations harm someone or something.

You've come close to my red line several times but you appear to be aware of the fact that there is indeed a real red line you can't cross on RUA. You come right up to the line and stick your toes little over all...

Does anyone have any ideas on how to lessen the negative effects of reading the crap AvHdB spews?

If you have I'd love to hear it.

 tiphat


Do what I have done to you.  Put him on ignore.
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: AvHdB on August 27, 2018, 01:59:22 PM
Wiz,

In a rather simple fashion I asked to respect the widow and children of some one who recently passed.

We can assume that your rant is an emblem of your empathy.

Av
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 27, 2018, 04:46:04 PM
AvHDB

I've been reading your delusions and dishonest inventions for over very long time as well as those posted by Moby too. I would advice you not to refer to me as the evil twin of Moby because the evil twin to him, it's you who is more closer to him with your actions than me. :evilgrin0002:

At first I tried to reach you with reason and links that respectfully rebutted your peculiar points of view. It did no good. Why? Because you're not remotely interested in learning where you might have taken a bad turn in your thought processes. You're not interested in facts that don't fit your perverted and dishonest narrative. You're not interested in the truth because you are simply... a TROLL!

You regularly make posts about things and events that bear no relationship to the subject at hand. In fact your behaviour on this site proves you to be someone not worthy of serious or respectful attention.

But, how do we ignore you when you spend whole days trolling intelligent comments destroying whatever consensus the adults in the room may have arrived at?

We need to read your "chaff" to get to the "wheat", so to speak...

One part of me wants you gone for the peace it could provide the sane members of this board but on the other hand, I feel compelled to support your right to spew whatever garbage you choose. The caveat of course is that I will only support your right to post crap right up to the point that your idiotic hasbarabot machinations harm someone or something.

You've come close to my red line several times but you appear to be aware of the fact that there is indeed a real red line you can't cross on RUA. You come right up to the line and stick your toes little over all...

Does anyone have any ideas on how to lessen the negative effects of reading the crap AvHdB spews?

If you have I'd love to hear it.

 tiphat


Do what I have done to you.  Put him on ignore.

You have put me on ignore, but you still read my posts, where I have never posted any comments on posts you have made! Haven't you noticed? You just simply confirmed what I had suspected long time ago.

Personally I don't have anybody on ignore, including you, because everybody has the right to express their views and I choose which ones to reply or not.

Actually you missed the meaning of my post to AV. He will never change because he is on a mission to troll this board, so it is up to me to reply to his comments or not!

Thanks for your advice.

 tiphat

Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 27, 2018, 04:54:07 PM
Wiz,

In a rather simple fashion I asked to respect the widow and children of some one who recently passed.

We can assume that your rant is an emblem of your empathy.

Av

The article I posted is a year old and I am sure his family must be aware of all the allegations and actions of him, by now. I made no comments about his family members, because he was the politician responsible for his actions and not them.

That was not my own article.... and nice try to avoid replying to my comments towards you. You seem to do this all  the time lately!

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: yankee on August 27, 2018, 06:11:16 PM
AvHDB

I've been reading your delusions and dishonest inventions for over very long time as well as those posted by Moby too. I would advice you not to refer to me as the evil twin of Moby because the evil twin to him, it's you who is more closer to him with your actions than me. :evilgrin0002:

At first I tried to reach you with reason and links that respectfully rebutted your peculiar points of view. It did no good. Why? Because you're not remotely interested in learning where you might have taken a bad turn in your thought processes. You're not interested in facts that don't fit your perverted and dishonest narrative. You're not interested in the truth because you are simply... a TROLL!

You regularly make posts about things and events that bear no relationship to the subject at hand. In fact your behaviour on this site proves you to be someone not worthy of serious or respectful attention.

But, how do we ignore you when you spend whole days trolling intelligent comments destroying whatever consensus the adults in the room may have arrived at?

We need to read your "chaff" to get to the "wheat", so to speak...

One part of me wants you gone for the peace it could provide the sane members of this board but on the other hand, I feel compelled to support your right to spew whatever garbage you choose. The caveat of course is that I will only support your right to post crap right up to the point that your idiotic hasbarabot machinations harm someone or something.

You've come close to my red line several times but you appear to be aware of the fact that there is indeed a real red line you can't cross on RUA. You come right up to the line and stick your toes little over all...

Does anyone have any ideas on how to lessen the negative effects of reading the crap AvHdB spews?

If you have I'd love to hear it.

 tiphat


Do what I have done to you.  Put him on ignore.

You have put me on ignore, but you still read my posts, where I have never posted any comments on posts you have made! Haven't you noticed? You just simply confirmed what I had suspected long time ago.

Personally I don't have anybody on ignore, including you, because everybody has the right to express their views and I choose which ones to reply or not.

Actually you missed the meaning of my post to AV. He will never change because he is on a mission to troll this board, so it is up to me to reply to his comments or not!

Thanks for your advice.

 tiphat

Most of your posts I totally disagree with.  You tend to be too extreme for me.  Occasionally you have something worthwhile but not very often.  You may ask why do I not comment?  Why?  I don't think anything I say will change your thinking. 
Title: Re: John McCain’s has died
Post by: dcguyusa on August 27, 2018, 06:17:56 PM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.


I think Adolf Hitler left some family behind??

Who, pray tell?  They would be on someone's hit list.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: John McCain has died
Post by: Contrarian on August 27, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.


I think Adolf Hitler left some family behind??

Who, pray tell?  They would be on someone's hit list.   :chuckle:

Fixed the title for you!  :coffeeread:
Title: Re: John McCain has died
Post by: Contrarian on August 27, 2018, 08:30:30 PM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.


FTFY!
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: andrewfi on August 28, 2018, 12:11:00 AM
Worth a read. This article, in part, demonstrates why McCain is not worthy of respect or remembrance: https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-john-mccain-blocked-info-mias/

This guy lived the life of an empowered bully. He was a coward, unable to face up to his own actions. It is worth noting that, although many men do not break under torture, I do not consider it to be traitorous, or even a sign of weakness to do so. The treachery and weakness comes from how the matter is dealt with afterward. McCain did not deal with these matters well and as a result many good people are now dead.
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Markje on August 28, 2018, 12:16:37 AM
I'm simply going with condolances.

 :dh: his ideas and policies are of no consequence anymore. He isnt around to defend them so let it rest
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 28, 2018, 04:01:59 AM
AvHDB

I've been reading your delusions and dishonest inventions for over very long time as well as those posted by Moby too. I would advice you not to refer to me as the evil twin of Moby because the evil twin to him, it's you who is more closer to him with your actions than me. :evilgrin0002:

At first I tried to reach you with reason and links that respectfully rebutted your peculiar points of view. It did no good. Why? Because you're not remotely interested in learning where you might have taken a bad turn in your thought processes. You're not interested in facts that don't fit your perverted and dishonest narrative. You're not interested in the truth because you are simply... a TROLL!

You regularly make posts about things and events that bear no relationship to the subject at hand. In fact your behaviour on this site proves you to be someone not worthy of serious or respectful attention.

But, how do we ignore you when you spend whole days trolling intelligent comments destroying whatever consensus the adults in the room may have arrived at?

We need to read your "chaff" to get to the "wheat", so to speak...

One part of me wants you gone for the peace it could provide the sane members of this board but on the other hand, I feel compelled to support your right to spew whatever garbage you choose. The caveat of course is that I will only support your right to post crap right up to the point that your idiotic hasbarabot machinations harm someone or something.

You've come close to my red line several times but you appear to be aware of the fact that there is indeed a real red line you can't cross on RUA. You come right up to the line and stick your toes little over all...

Does anyone have any ideas on how to lessen the negative effects of reading the crap AvHdB spews?

If you have I'd love to hear it.

 tiphat


Do what I have done to you.  Put him on ignore.

You have put me on ignore, but you still read my posts, where I have never posted any comments on posts you have made! Haven't you noticed? You just simply confirmed what I had suspected long time ago.

Personally I don't have anybody on ignore, including you, because everybody has the right to express their views and I choose which ones to reply or not.

Actually you missed the meaning of my post to AV. He will never change because he is on a mission to troll this board, so it is up to me to reply to his comments or not!

Thanks for your advice.

 tiphat

Most of your posts I totally disagree with.  You tend to be too extreme for me.  Occasionally you have something worthwhile but not very often.  You may ask why do I not comment?  Why?  I don't think anything I say will change your thinking.

Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion as long as he follows the Rules of the board.

You are not obligated to take part in any discussion or debate of a subject and that is what I do.

I try to avoid personal attacks and express my views, in a civilised manner on the topic we discuss, but when I am personally attacked than I don't hesitate to reply in kind.

 tiphat
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 28, 2018, 04:54:39 AM
Worth a read. This article, in part, demonstrates why McCain is not worthy of respect or remembrance: https://www.thenation.com/article/why-has-john-mccain-blocked-info-mias/

This guy lived the life of an empowered bully. He was a coward, unable to face up to his own actions. It is worth noting that, although many men do not break under torture, I do not consider it to be traitorous, or even a sign of weakness to do so. The treachery and weakness comes from how the matter is dealt with afterward. McCain did not deal with these matters well and as a result many good people are now dead.

I read that very interesting article you posted the link above.

Today I come across another interesting article by Michael COllins Piper posted only 16 hours ago:

John McCain's Family Ties to Jewish Organized Crime Syndicates in Arizona (https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/john-mccains-family-ties-jewish-organized-crime-syndicates-arizona/ri24574?ct=t(Russia_Insider_Daily_Headlines11_21_2014)&mc_cid=6b0792037d&mc_eid=da9ae1910f)

I get the impression that more information will come to light soo.

 :coffeeread:
Title: Re: John McCain has died
Post by: dcguyusa on August 28, 2018, 05:21:08 PM
Curious am I responding to the evil twin of Moby or Wiz? No I am not a fan of J. McCain. But in many ways and I confident those who can use common sense he might have been preferable to B. Obama.

Wiz no where did I consider you could write alone something above along those lines. Give it a rest Wiz, perhaps there is a geranium that needs water.

Regrading J. McCain I will assume everyone agrees that he spent some 5 plus years as a POW. The information that he provided to North Vietnam was obtainable everywhere back in the time, I doubt he knew more.

J. McCain leaves behind children and a wife, perhaps some respect can be shown.


I think Adolf Hitler left some family behind??

Who, pray tell?  They would be on someone's hit list.   :chuckle:

Fixed the title for you!  :coffeeread:

Thank you.  But I was not the one who changed the title.   (:)

Note that McCain died the same day as Ted Kennedy nine years apart from the same illness.   :-\
Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 29, 2018, 05:18:25 AM
Confederate

Why you keep changing the title of the thread?

It wasn't your choice so if you don't like it then buy a lilipot and lick it!

(http://blowjobz.xyz/thumbs/3401/22544363401.jpg)

 :P :P :P
Title: John McCain has died.
Post by: AvHdB on August 29, 2018, 06:52:33 AM
Wiz,

Confederate is innocent!

Sorry there is a 'bee in your bonnet'. I changed the title once (post #13) and others subsequently. Changing post titles has been ongoing as long as I have posted here, please try to catch up.

No one holds a copyright to a thread title. RUA as a forum, this is an exchange or discussion instead of a screed or rant of opinions or hate. . .

Here is a song for you 'A birdhouse in your soul'

Av



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Title: Re: An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Contrarian on August 29, 2018, 08:02:35 AM
Confederate

Why you keep changing the title of the thread?

It wasn't your choice so if you don't like it then buy a lilipot and lick it!

(http://blowjobz.xyz/thumbs/3401/22544363401.jpg)

 :P :P :P

Try to pay attention old boy. I am NOT the one who changed your title, that was Av.

I merely went behind him and corrected his egregious spelling error.  :coffeeread:
Title: I Didn't Know How This worked!
Post by: andrewfi on August 29, 2018, 09:56:51 AM
Fun for all the family.
Title: Re:An absolute psychopath is Dead. History of John McCain’s Calls for War
Post by: Wiz on August 29, 2018, 02:02:12 PM
Wiz,

Confederate is innocent!

I am sorry Confederate for the mistake! :(

Sorry there is a 'bee in your bonnet'. I changed the title once (post #13) and others subsequently. Changing post titles has been ongoing as long as I have posted here, please try to catch up.

No one holds a copyright to a thread title. RUA as a forum, this is an exchange or discussion instead of a screed or rant of opinions or hate. . .

Here is a song for you 'A birdhouse in your soul'

Av

Find my reply to you here:

http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,26733.msg483681.html#msg483681


(http://blowjobz.xyz/thumbs/3401/22544363401.jpg)

 :evilgrin0002:
Title: Re: I Didn't Know How This worked!
Post by: Contrarian on August 29, 2018, 04:37:38 PM
Fun for all the family.

What are you burbling about now?  :chuckle:
Title: "Round up the usual suspects".
Post by: AvHdB on August 29, 2018, 05:21:22 PM
Fun for all the family.

What are you burbling about now?  :chuckle:

Frankly my dear, I wish we saw more of this side of Andrew.
Title: Lollipop
Post by: AvHdB on August 29, 2018, 05:31:35 PM
Wiz,

A song for you, perhaps you even remember it when it first came out.
  :P


Oh a lolly is spelt lollipop. Av
Title: Respected man dies
Post by: Markje on August 30, 2018, 01:37:13 AM
Wiz,

A song for you, perhaps you even remember it when it first came out.
  :P


Oh a lolly is spelt lollipop. Av

But even if you change the title, its the first post that appears in the 'unread' view and thus not changes the title there.
Title: Re: Lollipop and the ADL and Haifa TROLL
Post by: Wiz on August 30, 2018, 08:03:46 AM
Wiz,

A song for you, perhaps you even remember it when it first came out.
  :P

Oh a lolly is spelt lollipop. Av

Sometime ago, the admin of this board noticed that YOU and a couple of other TROLLS, continuously and deliberately derailed every post made on any serious subjects.

To avoid any extra work splitting the threads or deleting posts, he created another  new thread, on another forum, not open, "I think", to general public, for us to post banter and anything else which is  :offtopic:.

That new thread is called: Wiz talking to AvHdB and others! (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,26733.0.html)  and there is where I post all my answers to you, which are  :offtopic:

Of course YOU with your arrogant personality and rude manners, ignore completely the wishes of the admin and other people, treat this board as your own property and play ground!

Your kind of behaviour does not make you friends. Your  :censored: tribe and your activities are disliked all over the world and I am not surprised at all.

 :fighting0025:

Title: Being Rude
Post by: AvHdB on August 30, 2018, 03:28:35 PM

Of course YOU with your arrogant personality and rude manners, ignore completely the wishes of the admin and other people, treat this board as your own property and play ground!

Your kind of behaviour does not make you friends. Your  :censored: tribe and your activities are disliked all over the world and I am not surprised at all.

 :fighting0025:

Wiz, Curious I really do not understand which tribe you are referring to. My brother is married to some one who is First Nation, sorry not my parentage. Nor am I worried about my friends. For what it is worth I have in fact been together with a number of fellow posters.

I have sailed (raced) a fair bit and can score bullets. I know my shit and feel free to share my insights. Well liked in both the sailing community and art world I have no worries.

As for rude behavior; your avatar defines it perfectly, single finger salute by a kid. I do not use the 'fighting' emoji. In fact I rarely use symbols/emoji, words are more succinct. It is handy for the lurkers to understand what sort of mentality you represent.

As you are fond to say, have a nice day.

Av
Title: Re: Lollipop and the ADL and Haifa TROLL
Post by: Contrarian on August 30, 2018, 04:21:02 PM
Wiz,

A song for you, perhaps you even remember it when it first came out.
  :P

Oh a lolly is spelt lollipop. Av

Sometime ago, the admin of this board noticed that YOU and a couple of other TROLLS, continuously and deliberately derailed every post made on any serious subjects.

To avoid any extra work splitting the threads or deleting posts, he created another  new thread, on another forum, not open, "I think", to general public, for us to post banter and anything else which is  :offtopic:.

That new thread is called: Wiz talking to AvHdB and others! (http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,26733.0.html)  and there is where I post all my answers to you, which are  :offtopic:

Of course YOU with your arrogant personality and rude manners, ignore completely the wishes of the admin and other people, treat this board as your own property and play ground!

Your kind of behaviour does not make you friends. Your  :censored: tribe and your activities are disliked all over the world and I am not surprised at all.

 :fighting0025:

It’s more likely that Av would be a troll for Langley although they don’t tolerate drinkers, unless it’s part of his cover.  :chuckle:

Av did you know that Bonhoeffer was a spy?
Title: J McCain’s ~ still speaks
Post by: AvHdB on August 31, 2018, 05:30:57 AM
From another poster (Texan) I have moved it here, interesting; some of the premises and thoughts I do not agree with but worth considering.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-mccain-sounds-the-alarm-on-trump-and-russia-in-new-documentary-active-measures/ar-BBME1if?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U218DHP