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Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« on: December 07, 2009, 04:19:01 PM »
We recently put in wifey's application for Naturalisation. She should get it early next year - all well and good.

Her forthcoming UK passport will be in her married surname. Her Russian passport is in her maiden name. That is how we want it to stay.

So we have read everywhere that its very easy: You travel to Russia using your Russian passport, and you come back using your UK passport.

However, wifey sees an issue with this. Leaving the UK, she can show a Russian passport to demonstrate right of entry to Russia. No problem (differing surname can be explained - we are logical here). However, leaving Russia, bound for the UK, because she was not stamped into Russia on her UK passport and has no visa, and will not have a current UK visa in her Russian passport (because it is in her old one), she is worried.

If she shows both, she feels the difference in surname between the two passports will create problems (because one must register marriage in Russia and she never did because we married in England). She doesn't want the hassle of having to change her internal passport, propiskas etc. It is simpler she stays maiden name in Russia.

Options include: Getting a Russian visa in her UK passport - ludicrous as she is a RU citizen anyway. Paying the Home Office even more money to duplicate her ILR in her new Russian passport (and assume they wont notice she was never stamped out of the UK). Show her old Russian passport with ILR in to demonstrate right of entry - she is wary of doing that even though she read you can.

She thinks making it complicated leaving Russia with multiple travel documents in various names will just leave her open to delays, bribes and general hassle.

Does anyone here have a wife who maintained her Russian surname in her Russian passport and her married name in her UK (or US) passport? How is this best approached?
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 11:46:44 PM »
OK Manny here goes so many questions  :o

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We recently put in wifey's application for Naturalisation. She should get it early next year - all well and good.

Her forthcoming UK passport will be in her married surname. Her Russian passport is in her maiden name. That is how we want it to stay.

Well done this will enable you to travel where you like, and no silly Visa's, But is of no use to travel to Russia :o well a little as you get back to the UK you can go through the returning citizen exit you know the one  ;D

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However, wifey sees an issue with this. Leaving the UK, she can show a Russian passport to demonstrate right of entry to Russia. No problem (differing surname can be explained - we are logical here). However, leaving Russia, bound for the UK, because she was not stamped into Russia on her UK passport and has no visa, and will not have a current UK visa in her Russian passport (because it is in her old one), she is worried.

OK lets get down to it  :sick0012: when you buy Wifey ticket to RUSSIA you buy it in her maiden name she then technically flys HOME then when she returns to the UK she shows her Russian passport with ILR in it and on arrival she shows her UK Passport as they do not check tickets at customs :) or she can just use Russian passport like she has done for last umpteen years :) if it is her old passport she will have to carry this unless you pay for the visa to be put in her new International Passport about £150 if i remember rightly :(

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If she shows both, she feels the difference in surname between the two passports will create problems (because one must register marriage in Russia and she never did because we married in England). She doesn't want the hassle of having to change her internal passport, propiskas etc. It is simpler she stays maiden name in Russia.

All answered above she will never use her UK passport to enter Russia  ::) she is Russian and always will be Russian there is no Joint citizenship allowed in Russia
At this point i will point out that when you get her UK PASSPORT on the line nationality it will state  the following RUSSIAN

Just because she has a UK passport it will not make her English she will be a Russian citizen with UK passport

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Options include: Getting a Russian visa in her UK passport

Think about it now after reading the above statement

You can not have a Russian visa issued to a Russian citizen yes she has a UK passport but she is still Russian. just like giving a UK citizen a UK VISA  ::)

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Paying the Home Office even more money to duplicate her ILR in her new Russian passport (and assume they wont notice she was never stamped out of the UK). Show her old Russian passport with ILR in to demonstrate right of entry - she is wary of doing that even though she read you can.

Already explained above

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She thinks making it complicated leaving Russia with multiple travel documents in various names will just leave her open to delays, bribes and general hassle.

They as far as I am aware do not give hassle or bribes to Russians when travelling correctly  ;D all in her maiden name for every trip to Russia it will now give you as much hassle to do as it always have
Forget using the UK Passport for these trips it has no use  :Zzzzsleep:but then again i would always travel with it safely concealed somewhere just in case :-Xor to use if the UK/EU channel the queue is shorter. :-X

Many of My UK/Russian friends do this and never have any problems it is just the first time fear of the unknown and also you have put the added UK Passport thing in just to confuse it

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 12:27:27 AM »
Something to keep in mind:  the airlines always seem to be interested in you having the correct passport or visa that will allow entry at your destination.

On leaving Russia, I would assume that she would have to show her UK passport to the airline, and the Russian passport to the Russian immigration crew.

In Ukraine, the marriage certificate is also used as a name change document(where wife changes her surname). If it is the same in Russia, wouldn't hurt to carry a copy of the marriage certificate to explain different names.


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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 12:40:38 AM »
Something to keep in mind:  the airlines always seem to be interested in you having the correct passport or visa that will allow entry at your destination.

On leaving Russia, I would assume that she would have to show her UK passport to the airline, and the Russian passport to the Russian immigration crew.

In Ukraine, the marriage certificate is also used as a name change document(where wife changes her surname). If it is the same in Russia, wouldn't hurt to carry a copy of the marriage certificate to explain different names.

kev i agree with some of your post

But the airline will want to see a passport showing the same name as the Ticket says now she will have to show her Russian passport for this and her old one with the ILR Visa in it for entry back to the UK.

And on leaving the UK her Russian passport is proof enough to say she can go to Russia so the UK passport has no part to play in the whole process.


This is the way you will always fly back to Russia if you do not want to change passports in russia to maiden name, and at the end of the day there is no real need unless it is personal preference to change all into married names.

yes i agree it might be a good idea to carry a copy of marriage certificate although if you are flying in your maiden name there should be no problem.
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 12:45:10 AM »
We recently put in wifey's application for Naturalisation. She should get it early next year - all well and good.

Her forthcoming UK passport will be in her married surname. Her Russian passport is in her maiden name. That is how we want it to stay.

So we have read everywhere that its very easy: You travel to Russia using your Russian passport, and you come back using your UK passport.

However, wifey sees an issue with this. Leaving the UK, she can show a Russian passport to demonstrate right of entry to Russia. No problem (differing surname can be explained - we are logical here). However, leaving Russia, bound for the UK, because she was not stamped into Russia on her UK passport and has no visa, and will not have a current UK visa in her Russian passport (because it is in her old one), she is worried.

If she shows both, she feels the difference in surname between the two passports will create problems (because one must register marriage in Russia and she never did because we married in England). She doesn't want the hassle of having to change her internal passport, propiskas etc. It is simpler she stays maiden name in Russia.

Options include: Getting a Russian visa in her UK passport - ludicrous as she is a RU citizen anyway. Paying the Home Office even more money to duplicate her ILR in her new Russian passport (and assume they wont notice she was never stamped out of the UK). Show her old Russian passport with ILR in to demonstrate right of entry - she is wary of doing that even though she read you can.

She thinks making it complicated leaving Russia with multiple travel documents in various names will just leave her open to delays, bribes and general hassle.

Does anyone here have a wife who maintained her Russian surname in her Russian passport and her married name in her UK (or US) passport? How is this best approached?

The simplest solution is of course the easiest, don't change her surname. Why is it necessary?  If she doesn't change her surname the same name will appear in both passports.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 12:51:56 AM »
We recently put in wifey's application for Naturalisation. She should get it early next year - all well and good.

Her forthcoming UK passport will be in her married surname. Her Russian passport is in her maiden name. That is how we want it to stay.

So we have read everywhere that its very easy: You travel to Russia using your Russian passport, and you come back using your UK passport.

However, wifey sees an issue with this. Leaving the UK, she can show a Russian passport to demonstrate right of entry to Russia. No problem (differing surname can be explained - we are logical here). However, leaving Russia, bound for the UK, because she was not stamped into Russia on her UK passport and has no visa, and will not have a current UK visa in her Russian passport (because it is in her old one), she is worried.

If she shows both, she feels the difference in surname between the two passports will create problems (because one must register marriage in Russia and she never did because we married in England). She doesn't want the hassle of having to change her internal passport, propiskas etc. It is simpler she stays maiden name in Russia.

Options include: Getting a Russian visa in her UK passport - ludicrous as she is a RU citizen anyway. Paying the Home Office even more money to duplicate her ILR in her new Russian passport (and assume they wont notice she was never stamped out of the UK). Show her old Russian passport with ILR in to demonstrate right of entry - she is wary of doing that even though she read you can.

She thinks making it complicated leaving Russia with multiple travel documents in various names will just leave her open to delays, bribes and general hassle.

Does anyone here have a wife who maintained her Russian surname in her Russian passport and her married name in her UK (or US) passport? How is this best approached?

The simplest solution is of course the easiest, don't change her surname. Why is it necessary?  If she doesn't change her surname the same name will appear in both passports.



Well we have already changed Elena's internal passport and will change her International when it is due to be renewed

Then we wont get the name not the same problem :)

It is easy and for the right money in Russia can be done quick and save loads of grief  :biggrin:
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 01:09:08 AM »
We recently put in wifey's application for Naturalisation. She should get it early next year - all well and good.

Her forthcoming UK passport will be in her married surname. Her Russian passport is in her maiden name. That is how we want it to stay.

So we have read everywhere that its very easy: You travel to Russia using your Russian passport, and you come back using your UK passport.

However, wifey sees an issue with this. Leaving the UK, she can show a Russian passport to demonstrate right of entry to Russia. No problem (differing surname can be explained - we are logical here). However, leaving Russia, bound for the UK, because she was not stamped into Russia on her UK passport and has no visa, and will not have a current UK visa in her Russian passport (because it is in her old one), she is worried.

If she shows both, she feels the difference in surname between the two passports will create problems (because one must register marriage in Russia and she never did because we married in England). She doesn't want the hassle of having to change her internal passport, propiskas etc. It is simpler she stays maiden name in Russia.

Options include: Getting a Russian visa in her UK passport - ludicrous as she is a RU citizen anyway. Paying the Home Office even more money to duplicate her ILR in her new Russian passport (and assume they wont notice she was never stamped out of the UK). Show her old Russian passport with ILR in to demonstrate right of entry - she is wary of doing that even though she read you can.

She thinks making it complicated leaving Russia with multiple travel documents in various names will just leave her open to delays, bribes and general hassle.

Does anyone here have a wife who maintained her Russian surname in her Russian passport and her married name in her UK (or US) passport? How is this best approached?

The simplest solution is of course the easiest, don't change her surname. Why is it necessary?  If she doesn't change her surname the same name will appear in both passports.



OR change her name to yours in all passports like we did just after we got married, its no big deal really, if you know the right people it can be pushed through very quickly, if you don't it takes a little longer  :-X   :)
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 01:57:01 AM »
Changing an internal passport takes time. Then one must change property documents etc to reflect the new name. More time and money.

There are numerous advantages to having the passports in differing names.
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 02:33:49 AM »
All I can say is that I think the changing of names difficulty is being overplayed.

Within 8 days of being married my wife's internal passport was renewed in her married name, and her external within another 7 days. As the Russian translation of her new double barreled surname bears no relation to the correct spelling, the passport issuing authority took a copy of my passport and hand wrote the correct translation into the passport with an official stamp.

All of this was done with no backhanders.

The question of taxation, medical, property etc. was all handled by a notary and cost $300, and was comleted in 10 working days.

I am truly believe that people overstate the difficulties.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 02:44:18 AM »


  While I may not have the exact situation to speak from I come close to your overall situation.  I usually head across the ocean at least twice a year and I frequently switch up my passports on entry and exit, mostly because I enjoy trying to fill the pack back pages with a new stamp.

   I have four passports to use and I honestly can't remember handing the same one in on a trip, I've been questioned on two occassions with one being serious but it was for matters outside of switching passports. Only once have I ever been asked to show the passport I used on entry and it was no problems once they looked it over.  I'd tell the wife to keep the passport that isn't being used on entry/exit in her back pocket and simply produce when/if asked.

   If anyone is tough, it's the English, especially Gatwick, aside from there it's been pretty smooth sailing. Most agents want to see what gives you the right to enter their country... even in Minsk they didn't bother me much. I honestly wouldn't worry about your current situation too much, seems like you're properly covered.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 03:11:44 AM »
Manny I raised the same question is this thread:-

http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=3676.15

I still do not understand how, if the return ticket from Russia is booked in your wife's maiden name, she can show her new British passport (in her new married name) to the airline check-in desk in Russia without there being a lot of awkward questions. All airlines flying to the UK have to check that the passenger is allowed entry into the UK, either by visa or citizenship, or they face a big fine.

It is possible but unlikely that she will get a Russian visa in her UK passport. Probably the Russian Embassy won't recognise her as a UK citizen, "Once a Russian always a Russian". I do know someone who's wife tried this, was refused at the Russian consulate in Scotland and had her UK passport stamped "Not valid for Russia":-

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 04:20:56 AM »
Trevor,

It is beyond me why after writing at length above what you do not understand.

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I still do not understand how, if the return ticket from Russia is booked in your wife's maiden name, she can show her new British passport (in her new married name) to the airline check-in desk in Russia without there being a lot of awkward questions. All airlines flying to the UK have to check that the passenger is allowed entry into the UK, either by visa or citizenship, or they face a big fine.

YOU DO NOT USE YOUR UK PASSPORT TO LEAVE RUSSIA YOU USE THE RUSSIAN ONE WITH THE ILR VISA IN IT  :


then when your feet are on the ground firmly in the UK can you use it to go through the EU UK gate they do not at the moment log and tie up who goes in to goes out  :biggrin:


What people forget that although your wife now has a UK passport she still needs the ILR Visa to confirm that she has indefinite leave to remain.

A UK passport does not replace or superceed ILR you can live the rest of your days here without having a UK passport it is a bolt on extra  ;D

So do not lose it and use it for travel to her home country it is perfectly legal

An d if you follow the UKBA guidelines when your passport is renewed you should get your ILR transfered but i do not know of many that do

Ohhhh yes one thing to get off my chest before i get down off my box is you will never stop paying :o any thought of this is a misconception you will every 5 years need to renew her International passport (available to be done in the UK) and then at various points through your Wifes life her internal will have to be renewed at 20 / 45  :D

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 04:43:00 AM »
Trevor,

It is beyond me why after writing at length above what you do not understand.

YOU DO NOT USE YOUR UK PASSPORT TO LEAVE RUSSIA YOU USE THE RUSSIAN ONE WITH THE ILR VISA IN IT  :

That is fine providing you are prepared to pay to have the ILR visa transferred to any new Russian passport once her existing one has expired, as will happen to my wife in 2011. If the visa is not transferred to a new passport, I somehow doubt that the airline will accept an expired passport with the ILR visa.

The simple method to get around the whole problem is to book the trip as two singles, into Russia in her maiden name (Russian passport) and back to the UK in her married name (UK passport). That sorts out the airline. UK passport control sees the UK passport both out and in and Russian passport control sees the Russian passport both in and out.



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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 07:54:03 AM »
Sparky and I thrashed this out on the phone earlier today. I think I have my head around it now.

For travel to Russia, disregard the UK passport for all intents and purposes is the answer.

Our wives will have both a UK passport and a Russian passport with ILR in it. Either/both allow entry to the UK.

  • Book flights in the name on Russian passport
  • Leave UK on Russian passport (as that is the only one that allows entry to Russia)
  • Enter Russia on Russian passport.
  • When leaving Russia, this is also done on the Russian passport. The requirement to demonstrate right of entry to the destination (UK) is done using the ILR visa* not the UK passport.
  • Once you have entered the UK, you can either use the Russian passport with ILR and fill in the usual landing card or whip out your shiny UK passport and drift through with the locals. (Border guards do not know what name you flew in.)

From what I have read, an ILR is valid if presented in an expired passport in conjunction with a current passport (that hasnt got ILR in it). ILR is a lifetime visa and Russian passports only last 5 years, so this kinda makes sense.

That said, a cunning Russian border guard would just love to make a big deal out of this IMO. The answer to that is pay the Home Office another £150 to duplicate the ILR in her current Russian passport.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2009, 08:19:46 AM »
Manny think we should make this a sticky?

Just a few bits to remove but worthwhile UK Visa life after Thread.

As i forget how many times i have seen this come up

Might also be useful if you could write a tool kit for ILR :biggrin:
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2009, 08:24:57 AM »
Might also be useful if you could write a tool kit for ILR :biggrin:

Right after you review the UK visa topic. :prophead:

Sticky it now is.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2010, 11:34:43 AM »

ILR is a lifetime visa and Russian passports only last 5 years, so this kinda makes sense.


Starting from March 1, 2010, newly issued Russian travel passports with micro-chips will last for 10 years, and have 48 pages instead of 36.

http://www.garant.ru/news/216751/

http://www.transday.ru/news/tour/13110-zagranpasporta.html

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 04:16:10 PM »
Update:

http://news.mail.ru/politics/3447657/

Previously the travel passport costed for RF citizens 400 roubles... now 1000  :snivel:

Biometrical passport for 10 years costs 2500 roubles  :snivel:
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 11:42:22 PM »
Update:

http://news.mail.ru/politics/3447657/

Previously the travel passport costed for RF citizens 400 roubles... now 1000  :snivel:

Biometrical passport for 10 years costs 2500 roubles  :snivel:

And if you converted the cost of a UK passport into Roubles it would cost 3875

lasts for 10 years too!!!!
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2010, 01:07:47 AM »
Update:

http://news.mail.ru/politics/3447657/

Previously the travel passport costed for RF citizens 400 roubles... now 1000  :snivel:

Biometrical passport for 10 years costs 2500 roubles  :snivel:

And if you converted the cost of a UK passport into Roubles it would cost 3875

lasts for 10 years too!!!!
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2011, 02:18:14 PM »

ILR is a lifetime visa and Russian passports only last 5 years, so this kinda makes sense.

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The above is a misconception. ILR confers on a person leave to remain in the UK for an indefinite period, it is not a 'lifetime visa'. If someone with ILR leaves the UK for an extended period (2 yrs or so) they do not have an automatic right of entry on their return. He or she will have to demonstrate to the IO on entry that that their conditions on which they were granted ILR haven't changed or entry could be refused.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2011, 03:42:30 AM »
Sparky and I thrashed this out on the phone earlier today. I think I have my head around it now.

For travel to Russia, disregard the UK passport for all intents and purposes is the answer.

Our wives will have both a UK passport and a Russian passport with ILR in it. Either/both allow entry to the UK.

  • Book flights in the name on Russian passport
  • Leave UK on Russian passport (as that is the only one that allows entry to Russia)
  • Enter Russia on Russian passport.
  • When leaving Russia, this is also done on the Russian passport. The requirement to demonstrate right of entry to the destination (UK) is done using the ILR visa* not the UK passport.
  • Once you have entered the UK, you can either use the Russian passport with ILR and fill in the usual landing card or whip out your shiny UK passport and drift through with the locals. (Border guards do not know what name you flew in.)

From what I have read, an ILR is valid if presented in an expired passport in conjunction with a current passport (that hasnt got ILR in it). ILR is a lifetime visa and Russian passports only last 5 years, so this kinda makes sense.

That said, a cunning Russian border guard would just love to make a big deal out of this IMO. The answer to that is pay the Home Office another £150 to duplicate the ILR in her current Russian passport.

Just to keep this thread running as it is also being discussed here a little, my wife and daughter have just applied for British Citizenship, so hopefully in a few months time she/they will be able to do the same, the only difference here is that both will now have one name in all passports as Ira changed hers at our wedding and we changed Nata's last year to mine, should make life a little easier.
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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2012, 12:02:04 AM »
How has all this worked out in practice? Does Russia allow dual nationality?

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2012, 10:59:25 PM »
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Does Russia allow dual nationality?

Yes. However it is important for a Russian passport holder to know that they are required to enter/exit Russia using their RUSSIAN passport no matter if they have a passport from another country.

To clarify, here is a section from the US Embassy website:

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Persons in Russia are subject to Russian laws and procedures. Persons who are citizens of both the United States and Russia should be aware that, while U.S. immigration law requires Americans to use U.S. passports when entering or leaving the United States, Russian law likewise requires Russian citizens to use Russian passports to enter and depart Russia.

There have been several instances in which U.S. citizens who also have Russian citizenship have entered Russia using their Russian passports, but then could not leave as planned because their Russian passports had expired during their stay in Russia, or because they lost their Russian passports. Since these travelers had not obtained Russian entry/exit visas in their U.S. passports, Russian authorities did not permit them to depart using their U.S. passports.

It can take several months to obtain a new Russian passport in order to satisfy Russian requirements for departure. Dual citizens who plan to enter Russia using their Russian passports should make sure that their Russian passports will be valid for their entire stay in Russia.

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Re: Usage of Russian and UK Passports at Different Borders
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2012, 11:05:14 PM »
Last month, when my wife and I crossed over from Latvia into Russia, we had to show our passport to exit the Schengen zone. My wife gave her Canadian passport (the one she used to enter into Europe) and then gave her Russian border 30 meters farther at the Russian passport/border control station.
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