TLC's 2019 Before the 90 Days - USA and Ukranian Lady

[Guile]

If you watch the 2nd vid with her and her friends, she says and I quote "If he (Caesar" wants to have a girl like me, he needs to.... go and make more money"

Doesn't take a genius to figure out what she wants.

[andrewfi]

That's completely reasonable. A bloke offers a package, as does the woman. That's part of compatibility.

We all have standards, but those standards vary from person to person.

If Cesar was better endowed in other respects she might be willing to compromise. But this man, with his 'package' is not compatible with her. Nothing wrong with that.

Had he done his due diligence better then he'd not have wasted resources on her. From her side, she was getting what she wanted from the relationship at the level of commitment that previously existed. She wasn't up for the level of commitment that he wanted. He could've discovered that sooner had be been willing to do so. As we saw, he was unwilling to face the reality of his situation and so paid the price of his shortcomings.

[Guile]

did moby try to reply to me? sweet I put him on ignore 

[Guile]

these people are on a reality show looking for fame.  i wonder how sincere they are about finding love.

[shakespear]

That's completely reasonable. A bloke offers a package, as does the woman. That's part of compatibility.

We all have standards, but those standards vary from person to person.

If Cesar was better endowed in other respects she might be willing to compromise. But this man, with his 'package' is not compatible with her. Nothing wrong with that.

Had he done his due diligence better then he'd not have wasted resources on her. From her side, she was getting what she wanted from the relationship at the level of commitment that previously existed. She wasn't up for the level of commitment that he wanted. He could've discovered that sooner had be been willing to do so. As we saw, he was unwilling to face the reality of his situation and so paid the price of his shortcomings.

I'm with you FiFi on this general principle.  Your argument assumes that both parties are honestly looking for a relationship.  It would not be too far of a leap to assume that such a woman, with the expectations of a mate she seems to express might figure out early on in the relationship that a person who manicures nails for a living was not going to come even close to her minimum long term financial expectations.  Therefore accepting monthly contributions of money from our protagonist doesn't reflect well on her character by western standards.  However by Ukrainian standards, the marriage agencies in that country are filled with women who would consider her a fantastic role model.         

[andrewfi]

Not just in Ukraine.

The failing here was on Cesar's part. He failed to do his due diligence.

The woman may well be looking for a long-term relationship but he was not the right one. Should she be blamed for enjoying a relationship on her terms? I don't really think so.

I bet that when she meets the right guy she will settle down.

That she can afford to be picky and has lots of opportunities is her benefit. His mistake was thinking that a pauper with clear flaws elsewhere could succeed with her.

It was a compatibility issue.

[NS1]

She is what she is and will do what works.

Caesar fell for a pretty girl talking nice to him.
He found her on the internet, google is your friend.
after sending all  of his money to her, when he's not working.

All he has money for is MR noodles and the internet.
Basic search of this type of relationship, regardless of country
all say the same thing, don't send money to someone you have not met.
This is on him.

Did she deceive him, of course, he took the bait thats on him.
Based on the show, he did not tell the whole truth either.
look at his life, apartment etc, he needs normal women of his class who
is going to work and contribute. With out all the costs that these types
of adventures costs.

In the beginning, you felt a little bad for him, like we have for a few along the way here.
But those who get locked in apartment on New Years eve pretty much get what they deserve.

[AvHdB]

She is what she is and will do what works.

Caesar fell for a pretty girl talking nice to him.
He found her on the internet, google is your friend.
after sending all  of his money to her, when he's not working.

All he has money for is MR noodles and the internet.
Basic search of this type of relationship, regardless of country
all say the same thing, don't send money to someone you have not met.
This is on him.

Did she deceive him, of course, he took the bait thats on him.
Based on the show, he did not tell the whole truth either.
look at his life, apartment etc, he needs normal women of his class who
is going to work and contribute. With out all the costs that these types
of adventures costs.

In the beginning, you felt a little bad for him, like we have for a few along the way here.
But those who get locked in apartment on New Years eve pretty much get what they deserve.

The above is true. 

Perhaps for some sad and others who have fallen for this they might be bitter and angry whether far away or next door. I do sort of wonder though were they born without common sense.

My thanks for The Bard for keeping us up to date. Most be a tough job but someone has to do it!

[BillyB]

I do sort of wonder though were they born without common sense.

Young people who's brains aren't fully developed lack common sense.

Old people who's brains are expired lack common sense.

Some people never acquire common sense regardless of age.

People like the Ukrainian woman in the video prey on those who lack common sense. They find ways of separating those people from their money. They may tell lies such as grandmother is sick. They may master pickpocketing. I know an old guy who gets pickpocketed a lot when vacationing in Europe. People who swindle money from the weak on a regular basis may want to find love someday but will learn the best people that's available will reject them.

[Valenki]

TLC's 2019 Before the 90 Days

You people are lucky. Over here we're still only watching what happens to Jorge and Anfisa and just getting into the beginning of Olga and what's-his-name. If not for the tears it would be a real hoot.

[BillyB]

Jorge and Anfisa

Last I read AFTER the show, Jorge sold drugs, got caught and went to jail for a few years and Anfisa has turned into a body builder. Check out her photos in the links below.

https://www.instagram.com/anfisanava_/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/anfisanava/

[Valenki]

Jorge and Anfisa

Last I read AFTER the show, Jorge sold drugs, got caught and went to jail for a few years and Anfisa has turned into a body builder. Check out her photos in the links below.

https://www.instagram.com/anfisanava_/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/anfisanava/

Thanks for the head's up though it's a bit of a spoiler. I don't know about you but that woman disgusts me. I would rather jump in bed with an inflatable glory-hole doll. I'm almost sure that I saw something on YouTube about her doing porn.  And yes, I heard that Jorge got busted with a trunk full of weed. I feel sorry for that poor bugger but his problems are mostly self-inflicted. The guy is a pathetic loser and Anfisa knew how to push every one of his buttons.

[Valenki]

I just checked Google and found a "soft porn" video of what is almost certainly her but I don't think it is allowed to send you the link. Maybe it's OK if I send you the title and you can find it yourself? 90 Day Fiancee Anfisa Arkhipchenko, Free Porn 51: xHamster

[dcguyusa]

The behavior of the Maria's of Kiev is something I have seen first hand. I can do with out the attitude and BS.

There's a chance she's playing. If a woman said that to me, I'd reply "If I pay for your beauty today, when you get old and ugly, do I get a refund?" I would watch her reaction to see if she's having fun with me or willing to sell her beauty.

Corrected it for you.   

[dcguyusa]

I don't know what Andrew sees in that girl.  I sure ain't seeing what he's seeing. Billy's got it right.

Every guy here should watch those videos and imagine sitting across the table from that woman. She's an expert at gold digging men who think with their little heads but on tv, tries to pretend to be a sweet innocent girl who is not at fault in her dealings with Caesar. While she's lived a few years of her life as an adult, most of us lived decades as an adult and have lots of life experience. Are any of you fooled by a woman half your age trying to pretend she's a nice girl? Anybody get the impression she's honest and may be a wonderful wife? Take her home to mama? If we observe her cooking in the kitchen, we may learn she doesn't even know how to boil water.

A former coworker made a comment about two young ladies who worked at the office many years ago.  They were both named Debbie.   He said Debbie K. was the type of lady who you would want to bring home to meet your parents.  Debbie B. was the type of lady who you would just want to bring home.   

[AvHdB]

I don't know what Andrew sees in that girl.  I sure ain't seeing what he's seeing. Billy's got it right.

Every guy here should watch those videos and imagine sitting across the table from that woman. She's an expert at gold digging men who think with their little heads but on tv, tries to pretend to be a sweet innocent girl who is not at fault in her dealings with Caesar. While she's lived a few years of her life as an adult, most of us lived decades as an adult and have lots of life experience. Are any of you fooled by a woman half your age trying to pretend she's a nice girl? Anybody get the impression she's honest and may be a wonderful wife? Take her home to mama? If we observe her cooking in the kitchen, we may learn she doesn't even know how to boil water.

A former coworker made a comment about two young ladies who worked at the office many years ago.  They were both named Debbie.   He said Debbie K. was the type of lady who you would want to bring home to meet your parents.  Debbie B. was the type of lady who you would just want to bring home.   

    

[BillyB]

Still nobody come forward to say if Mariya had a profile still up on Anastasia. I Googled for some info and found somebody in the link below took a snapshot of Mariya's profile on Ukrainebrides.net which is the same scam outfit as Army of Brides. She likes to cook according to her profile. Her profile at Ukrainebrides/Army of Brides has been taken down. I wonder if her profile has been taken down at Anastasia due to her having a negative impact on the business. If someone's got a membership there, search for a blonde 29 yo from Kiev.

https://soapdirt.com/90-day-fiance-caesar-mack-girlfriend-mariya-deletes-ukraine-bride-profile/

[NS1]

Search dating sites for 29 year old blond in Ukraine 

[andrewfi]

What girl am I supposed to have 'fallen for'? For those of you with difficulty reading English, ask somebody who is fluent in English to explain my words to you in your language.

[Valenki]

What girl am I supposed to have 'fallen for'? For those of you with difficulty reading English, ask somebody who is fluent in English to explain my words to you in your language.

[andrewfi]

Quote from: Guile on October 30, 2019, 10:20:12 AM

I don't know what Andrew sees in that girl.  I sure ain't seeing what he's seeing. Billy's got it right.

Given that I have no idea who this woman is, never met her, never seen her. I have no idea what any of this is about. Those who are referenced above missed that I was quite clearly, in English, writing in general terms, albeit in the context of a forum thread about a woman who appeared on a tv show that I have never seen and whose photograph I have not even seen.

It is unfortunate that some people who not only have a problem with understanding English also have a problem with learning by inference and thus assume that all cases relate directly to the most immediate possible example.

[msmoby]

For any UK / IRL user subscribing to SKY pay TV ..and who hasn't bothered to watch ( that's me)

It's now arrived over here ((

It's on at midnight ..

[BillyB]

Search dating sites for 29 year old blond in Ukraine 

I found a snapshot that gives more info such as height and weight. Googled all that info. Every link that goes to the woman's profile says profile has been removed. I suspect the profile was Mariya's. She may have been blackballed by the marriage industry which will hurt her chances in finding more suckers to send her money and take her on vacations.

[Valenki]

Quote from: Guile on October 30, 2019, 10:20:12 AM

I don't know what Andrew sees in that girl.  I sure ain't seeing what he's seeing. Billy's got it right.

Given that I have no idea who this woman is, never met her, never seen her. I have no idea what any of this is about. Those who are referenced above missed that I was quite clearly, in English, writing in general terms, albeit in the context of a forum thread about a woman who appeared on a tv show that I have never seen and whose photograph I have not even seen.

It is unfortunate that some people who not only have a problem with understanding English also have a problem with learning by inference and thus assume that all cases relate directly to the most immediate possible example.

Ah, now I understand. Sorry mate. I haven't the privilege of seeing someone's postings. I must have inadvertently pushed the wrong “ignore” button. But yes, I understand. In the words of George Bernard Shaw, “Two peoples divided by a common language.” It is often frustratingly true but that says just about all that is necessary on the subject. 

[Guile]

Given that I have no idea who this woman is, never met her, never seen her. I have no idea what any of this is about. Those who are referenced above missed that I was quite clearly, in English, writing in general terms, albeit in the context of a forum thread about a woman who appeared on a tv show that I have never seen and whose photograph I have not even seen.

Maybe you need some English lessons to learn how to communicate more effectively. Brevity is the soul of wit.  You often write several rambling phrases when one will do.  And no you were not clear.  We are talking about a specific girl on a specific TV show.  For a professional copywriter this is appalling.

If you prefer to continue the dialogue in Russian or Chinese no problem.  It might be easier if your vocabulary is limited.