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Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« on: July 23, 2019, 10:53:42 AM »
I called it!

There is [was] a plan, from quite high up in the party and supported by many large donors. The idea was May lost the vote triggered by the 48 letters to the 1922 committee, quick leadership contest installing Boris, Boris puts Mogg in the cabinet, Brexit "no deal", Boris wins next election and then steps aside for Mogg to be PM. Farage rejoins the party.

Last bit may yet differ but the first bit was pretty much right.  :party0031:

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2019, 11:18:11 AM »
Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister

Not for long ..

Good bye another Commons seat next Thursday and a few more Conservatives will leave the party ..

Manny 'called it' ..

and put another nail into a once great party ..

The scary thing is we have a choice of Corbyn or Boris ..Farage ? ( not a chance)

Jo Swinson... now there IS new hope for Britain ...  and she will rob Boris of another seat on Thursday Aug 1st ..leaving a working majority of ONE ..

It might be gone, sooner .. if the rumours of those Tory MPs walking are true ..

Boris will be PM of a govt liable - at any time - to be defeated in a vote of No confidence

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2019, 12:19:46 PM »
I called it!

There is [was] a plan, from quite high up in the party and supported by many large donors. The idea was May lost the vote triggered by the 48 letters to the 1922 committee, quick leadership contest installing Boris, Boris puts Mogg in the cabinet, Brexit "no deal", Boris wins next election and then steps aside for Mogg to be PM. Farage rejoins the party.

Last bit may yet differ but the first bit was pretty much right.  :party0031:

Congratulations!

Now buy that man a damn comb!  :laugh:
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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 12:37:03 PM »
Now the Left waffle and the BBC propaganda machine will be going in to over drive..



Did I see that stupid whore abbot say she will be leaving the country soon?
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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 12:42:26 PM »
Jo Swinson... now there IS new hope for Britain ... 

A Liberal Democrat? Don't be absurd.  :ROFL:

Wasn't you claiming to be a Tory like um... yesterday? You really are a floating voter aren't you? (assuming they'll send a polling card to c/o Dave's sofa)  :whist11:

You fuzzy-thinking, lefty, anti-democratic types are prone to wriggle like a worm in bleach when stuff you dont like - like democracy - happens, eh?

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 01:03:10 PM »


A Liberal Democrat? Don't be absurd.  :ROFL:

Wasn't you claiming to be a Tory like um... yesterday? You really are a floating voter aren't you? (assuming they'll send a polling card to c/o Dave's sofa)  :whist11:

You fuzzy-thinking, lefty, anti-democratic types are prone to wriggle like a worm in bleach when stuff you dont like - like democracy - happens, eh?

I'm indeed sad to watch my beloved Convervative and Unionsit Party be taken ovr by UKIP-like mentality .. hence .. like many who will follow - I'm off .. Boris can lead those Tories who want to be lemming-like and try to take us off the cliff edge..

Democracy is at play and Boris will get his first taste of it next week ..in Brecon ..when he oversees ANOTHER drop in his majority in the HoC .. if it hasn't already gone with Tory MPs abandonning a sinking ship ..





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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 02:14:14 PM »
Now the Left waffle and the BBC propaganda machine will be going in to over drive..



Did I see that stupid whore abbot say she will be leaving the country soon?

 :laugh:

Owen Jones is another absolute gob shite. He's got that wee annoying face to go along with his warped views and lefty delusions. Boris being PM means two things for me;

1) Finally a PM who is willing to take a no deal should the EU not play ball. Someone who actually believes in the country and doesn't bow down to socialism/globalism.

2) It really pisses off the libtards who can't do anthing about Brexit or the PM now! They suffered with the tories and now they have Boris. A white, male, conservative you believes in sovereignty and democracy. The libs will be wailing in their sleep and I'm sure I already saw a group of unwashed idiots protesting in London!

What a day..... :ROFL:

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 03:04:20 PM »
My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.

I also think that Boris is absolutely willing to do a no-deal exit because he and enough of his colleagues think that is better than what is on the table and that there is no consensus for what is on the table. At the same time, I think that he and his colleagues are wide open for a sensible deal on which to exit.

A no-deal likelihood puts Britain into the driver's seat which is where we were not before. I still do not think that was May's fault. She had an impossible position, but I said months ago that a change of leader with a commitment to leaving the EU with no deal was the way forward. It puts the British saboteurs on notice that their games will no longer work and forces the EU to finally and belatedly negotiate sensibly.
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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2019, 03:35:45 PM »
My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.

Exactly! The louder Boris shouts "No Deal" the faster they will do one. The plebs dont get that.  :'(

The prospect of Mercedes, Audi, VW, French cheese, French wine, Spanish fruit, etc., building up at ports attracting import duty is unthinkable for them. We are the world's 5th biggest economy and we should have acted like it. They should have sent Alan Sugar, James Dyson, Mogg, Farage and Digby Jones as a group over there in the national interest two years ago to do this. It'd have been done in a fortnight. Politicians and civil servants clowning around achieved nothing as they aren't business people. It can't be rocket science to make a simple agreement based on mutual interests. Just common sense. The fundamentals are so straightforward that me and Rosco would do it in a week or two I bet......Chuck in Andrewfi for the details nobody else thought of, and it's ten days.

They've all made it so much harder than it needed to be. Crack on with a basic common sense deal and tweak it as we go along later on. Simples. Flirt the Romanian vagrants and beggars out, export any EU national on benefits back to their homeland, stop NHS tourism overnight unless the national embassy underwrites the bill for their citizens, free trade deal without free movement, 2nd tier EU nationals subject to visa - eg: French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian and Germans OK, but Poles, Slovaks, Latvians and Bulgarians (etc.) need a visa. No free money. No free child benefit for Poles. No freeloading or sponging. It's all dead simple stuff we have been asking for for a decade or more.........

Boris isn't Trump. We'll not get half of that. But any of it is something.

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2019, 09:16:22 PM »
My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.

Exactly! The louder Boris shouts "No Deal" the faster they will do one. The plebs dont get that.  :'(

The prospect of Mercedes, Audi, VW, French cheese, French wine, Spanish fruit, etc., building up at ports attracting import duty is unthinkable for them. We are the world's 5th biggest economy and we should have acted like it. They should have sent Alan Sugar, James Dyson, Mogg, Farage and Digby Jones as a group over there in the national interest two years ago to do this. It'd have been done in a fortnight. Politicians and civil servants clowning around achieved nothing as they aren't business people. It can't be rocket science to make a simple agreement based on mutual interests. Just common sense. The fundamentals are so straightforward that me and Rosco would do it in a week or two I bet......Chuck in Andrewfi for the details nobody else thought of, and it's ten days.

They've all made it so much harder than it needed to be. Crack on with a basic common sense deal and tweak it as we go along later on. Simples. Flirt the Romanian vagrants and beggars out, export any EU national on benefits back to their homeland, stop NHS tourism overnight unless the national embassy underwrites the bill for their citizens, free trade deal without free movement, 2nd tier EU nationals subject to visa - eg: French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian and Germans OK, but Poles, Slovaks, Latvians and Bulgarians (etc.) need a visa. No free money. No free child benefit for Poles. No freeloading or sponging. It's all dead simple stuff we have been asking for for a decade or more.........

Boris isn't Trump. We'll not get half of that. But any of it is something.

At least Trump spends some time putting on hairspray and combing his hair.  :laugh:
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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2019, 12:20:11 AM »

My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.


Exactly! The louder Boris shouts "No Deal" the faster they will do one. The plebs dont get that.  :'(

This 'pleb' will be rubbing your collective noses in it, prettty soon ...

The ONLY reason the EU might 'want' us gone - is because of the uncertainty.. IF we crash out - there'll be plenty of resons why other nations who might consider following, will change their minds...

Boris is already in a weaker posirtion than May and will get weaker ... tthe EU know this ..   


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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2019, 03:34:32 AM »
My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.

Exactly! The louder Boris shouts "No Deal" the faster they will do one. The plebs dont get that.  :'(

The prospect of Mercedes, Audi, VW, French cheese, French wine, Spanish fruit, etc., building up at ports attracting import duty is unthinkable for them. We are the world's 5th biggest economy and we should have acted like it. They should have sent Alan Sugar, James Dyson, Mogg, Farage and Digby Jones as a group over there in the national interest two years ago to do this. It'd have been done in a fortnight. Politicians and civil servants clowning around achieved nothing as they aren't business people. It can't be rocket science to make a simple agreement based on mutual interests. Just common sense. The fundamentals are so straightforward that me and Rosco would do it in a week or two I bet......Chuck in Andrewfi for the details nobody else thought of, and it's ten days.

They've all made it so much harder than it needed to be. Crack on with a basic common sense deal and tweak it as we go along later on. Simples. Flirt the Romanian vagrants and beggars out, export any EU national on benefits back to their homeland, stop NHS tourism overnight unless the national embassy underwrites the bill for their citizens, free trade deal without free movement, 2nd tier EU nationals subject to visa - eg: French, Dutch, Danish, Belgian and Germans OK, but Poles, Slovaks, Latvians and Bulgarians (etc.) need a visa. No free money. No free child benefit for Poles. No freeloading or sponging. It's all dead simple stuff we have been asking for for a decade or more.........

Boris isn't Trump. We'll not get half of that. But any of it is something.

At least Trump spends some time putting on hairspray and combing his hair.  :laugh:

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2019, 04:01:01 AM »

My guess is that we will suddenly find that the EU finds a way to enable a suitable deal to be quickly concluded because they REALLY do not want a NO DEAL.


Exactly! The louder Boris shouts "No Deal" the faster they will do one. The plebs dont get that.  :'(

This 'pleb' will be rubbing your collective noses in it, prettty soon ...

The ONLY reason the EU might 'want' us gone - is because of the uncertainty.. IF we crash out - there'll be plenty of resons why other nations who might consider following, will change their minds...

Boris is already in a weaker posirtion than May and will get weaker ... tthe EU know this ..

What are you mumbling on about man??

Centrist governments are on the rise in Europe as people wake up and smell the coffee. Socialism, globalism, eradicating sovereignty, culture, democracy and forced mass immigration have made people really think about it. The Merkels, Macrons and Trudeau's of the world are yesterdays people. The only thing stopping the whole thing from collapsing quicker, is the assistance of the left wing media and their conscious decision to not tell the truth.

Do you really think that the EU feel they have Boris over a barrel compared to May, if so you're nuts?! They know they need to renegotiate or there will be no deal......

You talk about us crashing out influencing other countries.....and you're right. Spoken like a true socialist europhile, you only see doom and gloom outside of an undemocratic union. When the UK leaves with all her money, you and the other remoaners will realise that life goes on, the sky didn't fall and when the dust settles, investment, commitment and business will be knocking on the door.

If you think one of the biggest economies and consumer nations on the planet will simply be cut off......then you're believing your own doomsday bullshit.

That said, its obvious that the majority of the countries who make up the EU wont leave, because they're on the take and getting nice big handouts.....from our tax money. Why would they leave unless the cash cow goes bang?

The UK and its decision to leave wont have any bearing on Romania, Malta, Bulgaria etc. And I hope you understand why......??

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2019, 05:49:33 AM »
Socialism, globalism, eradicating sovereignty, culture, democracy and forced mass immigration have made people really think about it. The Merkels, Macrons and Trudeau's of the world are yesterdays people.

You are wrong about Trudeau.  Canada is very much centrist politically.  The Liberals, up until Trudeau's election, were always a centrist party fiscally, and to the left socially.  Up until Stephen Harper, the Conservatives also were fairly centrist, only slightly more to the right than the Liberals on fiscal policy.

The reason Trudeau is not popular is because he doesn't have the brain power to be PM.  I knew this when I voted for him, however, I assumed he would surround himself with bright people, as there is a depth of that talent in the Liberal Party.  I had no issues with the Harper government fiscally, socially, I disagreed with a lot of things they did, such as mandatory minimum sentences.  Even Conrad Black, who Margaret Thatcher said was so far right of her, he made her look "wet", disagreed with their "law and order" policies.  However, with a few notable exceptions, Trudeau did not surround himself with the best and brightest from his party. 

The most recent poll, released two days ago, finds that Canadians don't support either the Conservatives or the Liberals.  There's only a three seat difference between them in that poll, and neither party would form a majority.  If this holds (the election will be in October), the far left socialist party will hold the balance of power, and they will never align with the Conservatives.  The problem is the Conservatives elected as leader a man devoid of charisma or presence.  Really, given the broken promises of the Trudeau government, and some of its scandals, this should have been a slam dunk for a Conservative leader.

In the last German federal elections, the CDU/CSU still won more votes than any other party.



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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2019, 06:04:05 AM »


What are you mumbling on about man??

I am demonstrating - once more - that you do not understand much that is going on around you..


Centrist governments are on the rise in Europe as people wake up and smell the coffee.

A Centrist govt idescribes Macron's govt .. :coffeeread:   

Perhaps you meant 'Popularist ? ' You're not even right, there...

Take the recent EU results...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/may/26/eu-election-results-2019-across-europe

The centre left parties won more seats ...





Do you really think that the EU feel they have Boris over a barrel compared to May, if so you're nuts?!


Yup, for the reasons I gave... he'll lose support - that even May had .. this is not rocket science .


You talk about us crashing out influencing other countries.....and you're right. Spoken like a true socialist europhile, you only see doom and gloom outside of an undemocratic union. When the UK leaves with all her money, you and the other remoaners will realise that life goes on, the sky didn't fall and when the dust settles, investment, commitment and business will be knocking on the door.

If you think one of the biggest economies and consumer nations on the planet will simply be cut off......then you're believing your own doomsday bullshit.

That said, its obvious that the majority of the countries who make up the EU wont leave, because they're on the take and getting nice big handouts.....from our tax money. Why would they leave unless the cash cow goes bang?

The UK and its decision to leave wont have any bearing on Romania, Malta, Bulgaria etc. And I hope you understand why......??

IF we crashed out - we willl demonstrate how 'wise' leaving would be .. Economic predictions from our own civil service point that out .. the CBI .. the Bank of England ..

I'm not too worried about that event - hence my £200 bet

Having lived in non contributing EU nations I 'get' that they value a lot more than 'handouts' .. Many nations wanted to join because to national security ..

Which EU nation has warred with another ?


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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2019, 06:31:33 AM »
Socialism, globalism, eradicating sovereignty, culture, democracy and forced mass immigration have made people really think about it. The Merkels, Macrons and Trudeau's of the world are yesterdays people.

You are wrong about Trudeau.  Canada is very much centrist politically.  The Liberals, up until Trudeau's election, were always a centrist party fiscally, and to the left socially.  Up until Stephen Harper, the Conservatives also were fairly centrist, only slightly more to the right than the Liberals on fiscal policy.

The reason Trudeau is not popular is because he doesn't have the brain power to be PM.  I knew this when I voted for him, however, I assumed he would surround himself with bright people, as there is a depth of that talent in the Liberal Party.  I had no issues with the Harper government fiscally, socially, I disagreed with a lot of things they did, such as mandatory minimum sentences.  Even Conrad Black, who Margaret Thatcher said was so far right of her, he made her look "wet", disagreed with their "law and order" policies.  However, with a few notable exceptions, Trudeau did not surround himself with the best and brightest from his party. 

The most recent poll, released two days ago, finds that Canadians don't support either the Conservatives or the Liberals, and there's only a three seat difference between them, and neither would form a majority.  If this holds, the far left socialist party will hold the balance of power, and they will never align with the Conservatives.  The problem is the Conservatives elected as leader a man devoid of charisma or presence.  Really, given the broken promises of the Trudeau government, and some of its scandals, this should have been a slam dunk for a Conservative leader.

In the last German federal elections, the CDU/CSU still won more votes than any other party.

Canada may be politically centrist to you but certainly not to me. I've always seen it as liberal, at least during the bulk of my adulthood. I guess one persons left wing is another centrist and one persons centrist is another's extreme right! It's down to debate that one me thinks?

I have quite a large number of friends/family in Canada and I see their posts and comments on Facebook. From the sample size I get to look at, most are anti Trudeau/anti government these days due to high tax & globalist, fuzzy thinking policies. It's quite a remarkable shift in a relatively short space of time, IMO.

You're right, Trudeau is stupid and comes across like a spoiled man child who's been used as a poster boy by the far left. Personally I think the guys an embarrassment and he's let the people of Canada down badly. I guess the thrust of my last post was the state of politics in the western world.

Turdeau, Macron et al all had pretty good support, they looked the part and they were sold to us as the good guys. Today, these types are walking perilously close to the cliff edge, as are the politicians in Germany, Netherlands, Italy etc. It's a trend.

The tide has changed because the people feel let down. Centrist governments have momentum, now whether that's enough to secure controlling seats today I'm not sure, but at this rate its going to happen. Some countries already have.....

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2019, 06:42:20 AM »
Canada may be politically centrist to you but certainly not to me. I've always seen it as liberal, at least during the bulk of my adulthood. I guess one persons left wing is another centrist and one persons centrist is another's extreme right! It's down to debate that one me thinks?

I have quite a large number of friends/family in Canada and I see their posts and comments on Facebook. From the sample size I get to look at, most are anti Trudeau/anti government these days due to high tax & globalist, fuzzy thinking policies. It's quite a remarkable shift in a relatively short space of time, IMO.

You're right, Trudeau is stupid and comes across like a spoiled man child who's been used as a poster boy by the far left. Personally I think the guys an embarrassment and he's let the people of Canada down badly. I guess the thrust of my last post was the state of politics in the western world.

Turdeau, Macron et al all had pretty good support, they looked the part and they were sold to us as the good guys. Today, these types are walking perilously close to the cliff edge, as are the politicians in Germany, Netherlands, Italy etc. It's a trend.

The tide has changed because the people feel let down. Centrist governments have momentum, now whether that's enough to secure controlling seats today I'm not sure, but at this rate its going to happen. Some countries already have.....

Canada is more centrist than the UK, I think, but yes, it's what one believes.

Canada's total personal (as opposed to corporate) tax burden (excluding GST) is on the lower side vis a vis the OECD.  They are comparable to the UK (Canada is just slightly lower), and only slightly higher than the US.  Your VAT rate is far higher than our GST rate.

Trudeau is not "far left".  Jagmeet Singh, who actually is the smartest of the leaders, is to the left of Trudeau, as is Elizabeth May. 

I don't believe Trudeau's support was ever particularly deep.  The vote for him was really an anti Harper vote, not a pro Trudeau vote.  There was also some nostalgia for Pierre Trudeau, and a belief he was similar to his father, who had a towering intellect.  I didn't agree with Pierre Trudeau in most things either, but he had a vision for the country, and he did change it, mostly for the better.

I also believe that if wage stagnation and economic uncertainty didn't exist, most of these issues would disappear.

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2019, 06:48:34 AM »
Canada may be politically centrist to you but certainly not to me. I've always seen it as liberal, at least during the bulk of my adulthood. I guess one persons left wing is another centrist and one persons centrist is another's extreme right! It's down to debate that one me thinks?

I have quite a large number of friends/family in Canada and I see their posts and comments on Facebook. From the sample size I get to look at, most are anti Trudeau/anti government these days due to high tax & globalist, fuzzy thinking policies. It's quite a remarkable shift in a relatively short space of time, IMO.

You're right, Trudeau is stupid and comes across like a spoiled man child who's been used as a poster boy by the far left. Personally I think the guys an embarrassment and he's let the people of Canada down badly. I guess the thrust of my last post was the state of politics in the western world.

Turdeau, Macron et al all had pretty good support, they looked the part and they were sold to us as the good guys. Today, these types are walking perilously close to the cliff edge, as are the politicians in Germany, Netherlands, Italy etc. It's a trend.

The tide has changed because the people feel let down. Centrist governments have momentum, now whether that's enough to secure controlling seats today I'm not sure, but at this rate its going to happen. Some countries already have.....

Canada is more centrist than the UK, I think, but yes, it's what one believes.

Canada's total personal (as opposed to corporate) tax burden (excluding GST) is on the lower side vis a vis the OECD.  They are comparable to the UK (Canada is just slightly lower), and only slightly higher than the US.  Your VAT rate is far higher than our GST rate.

Trudeau is not "far left".  Jagmeet Singh, who actually is the smartest of the leaders, is to the left of Trudeau, as is Elizabeth May. 

I don't believe Trudeau's support was ever particularly deep.  The vote for him was really an anti Harper vote, not a pro Trudeau vote.  There was also some nostalgia for Pierre Trudeau, and a belief he was similar to his father, who had a towering intellect.  I didn't agree with Pierre Trudeau in most things either, but he had a vision for the country, and he did change it, mostly for the better.

I also believe that if wage stagnation and economic uncertainty didn't exist, most of these issues would disappear.

Yea I think the daddy thing had a lot to do with it too. We all have our own opinions but respecting anything about Justin is extremely difficult for me to do.

Also, I think you have to be pretty far left to do just two of the following;

Justin Trudeau Pledges $30 Million To Promote LGBT In Third World Nations
https://capforcanada.com/justin-trudeau-pledges-30-million-to-promote-lgbt-in-third-world-nations/

Trudeau defends apology and $10.5-million payment to Omar Khadrhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/trudeau-defends-apology-and-105-million-payment-to-omar-khadr/article35623594/
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/trudeau-defends-apology-and-105-million-payment-to-omar-khadr/article35623594/

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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2019, 07:03:30 AM »
I don't have an issue with the LGBTQ funding, as it is about endorsing human rights.  Even the Harper Conservatives established an "underground railroad" and fast tracked applications for gays, mostly from Iran.

Trudeau had no personal role in the Khadr payment.  It was handled by the Justice Department.  They were cleaning up a mistake of the previous government.

I know one of Khadr's lawyers personally.  I don't think what Khadr received was out of the ballpark, in relation to other payments made for similar abrogation of duties to citizens.  What is forgotten here is that Khadr was 15 years old, he wasn't in Afghanistan of his own volition, he was tortured to confess, there is no proof he killed anyone (Khadr himself says he shot a gun, but doesn't know if he killed anyone), and the Canadian government did not respect his constitutional rights, which every court in the country agreed on, including in right wing Alberta.

As for Boris Johnson, he seems to me to be slimy in his personal life.  I can't respect a man with the morals of a sewer rat, but that's on a personal level.

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2019, 07:51:06 AM »
I don't have an issue with the LGBTQ funding, as it is about endorsing human rights.  Even the Harper Conservatives established an "underground railroad" and fast tracked applications for gays, mostly from Iran.



As for Boris Johnson, he seems to me to be slimy in his personal life.  I can't respect a man with the morals of a sewer rat, but that's on a personal level.

LGBTQ is about endorsing human rights...

but

Boris Johnson has the morals of a sewer rat.

Right.   :ROFL:
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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2019, 08:04:22 AM »
Sure he does.  He impregnated his second wife while still married to his first wife, and has at least two other children out of wedlock, plus another affair with a woman he didn't manage to knock up.  His current squeeze is the result of an affair he had while still married to the mother of his four children.  Perhaps in your world, these are everyday occurrences.  In mine, they are not.

Homosexuality is not a choice.  So, I don't have an issue with treating homosexuals as human beings, rather than torturing them, or executing them, or forcing them to change sexes if they want to live (common in some parts of the Middle East).

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2019, 09:43:50 AM »
Yea its a tough one.

Would I prefer a man who can't keep it in his pants but knows how to run a country and look after its citizens, or a proper stand up family man who knows didley squat and ruins everything he touches?  :reading:

*A theoretical problem.

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2019, 09:45:32 AM »
We'll see if he is an effective PM.  I don't really care, either way.  Just commenting on his messy personal "morality", or rather, complete lack thereof.


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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2019, 10:19:11 AM »
Sure he does.  He impregnated his second wife while still married to his first wife, and has at least two other children out of wedlock, plus another affair with a woman he didn't manage to knock up.  His current squeeze is the result of an affair he had while still married to the mother of his four children.  Perhaps in your world, these are everyday occurrences.  In mine, they are not.

I know several chaps that that could be describing. All are effective in business. Liking the ladies doesnt make you a bad PM. It's a job that probably needs some testosterone. I'd say it's a good job Boris has some lead in his pencil. He'll need it.

Clearly the party members dont care either. I had the email with the voting numbers on and this is a screenshot from it:



As we can see, Boris totally walked it. Much to Moby's chagrin, only 138809 us us voted. 22000 members did not vote.

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Re: Boris Johnson is Prime Minister
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2019, 10:33:06 AM »
As I noted, I have no opinion on his politics, nor do I care.

But, I think it takes more testosterone to go home to the same woman every day, a woman who is cooking, cleaning, and feeding your children, who, after childbirth, hasn't got the same tight body she had before (*see the Duchess of Sussex as a prime example), and who will ask you to take out the garbage.  Sticking your d**k into every pretty thing that is willing to jump your bones is not a shining example of testosterone or maturity.

Nevertheless, as the better half said when I told him Johnson's history, roughly translated "Well, presumably he'll screw the rest of Europe the same way he screwed around."


 

 

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