Buh Bye Maduro, Poka

[Wiz]

The bottom line here, the United States is working to overthrow the legitimate government of another country by destroying its ability to run a functioning economy. That the economy was already fragile does not make what the US is doing right, there is no justification here. The US is killing people, again, and blaming its victims for their own deaths.

Ultimately, I believe this will tend toward more isolation for the United States because more countries will be forced to follow some form of the Chinese and Russian models (two different models with similar effects).

Thanks Andrew for the effort to educate the brainwashed and zombies from the USA. They have not the faintest idea.... what is going on around the world, what their country has been doing since the end of WWII and how many innocent people has been killed from their actions, invasions etc.

Well looks that this empire is not going to last for many more years,,,,,,to match the British Empire. their posts are boring me to tears..... better not to bother, as they do not read anything to learn and wake up from their sleep.

I just wonder would they ever pay their mountain of debts?

Probably yes by killing more people in poor countries.

BillyB

I suggest you to search and read the history about Venezuela........and USA.

BTW can you travel back to your country?

 

[Contrarian]

Thanks AvHdB and BillyB for the effort to educate the brainwashed and zombies still believing in merits of Communist Dictatorships

I suggest you to search and read the history about Venezuela

FTFY and

Follow your own advice you sad clueless old man.

In 1992 Venezuela was a healthy, happy and prosperous nation.

Then they believed the poppycock of Socialism/Communism and they’re now desperate, eating rats, starving and being murdered in cold blood by thug Maduro.

[AvHdB]

Wiz, dear chap it has nothing to do with capitalism or America. There is a rich tradition of this in Central and South America. The despot Maduro and before him Chavez have royally screwed there own people. If Venezuela had followed a Norwegian or even a Cuban economic model NONE of the present misery would have occurred.

Wiz you have head so far up the ass of Global Research that you can not see reality from a field of unicorns. Why not do some research into this group and come back to RUA with your findings? It is disturbing evidence.

He’s truly clueless on this one, huh?!!

Not quite clueless. My guess is it is the lack of responsibility and accepting that the fault lies with your own actions. Wiz will blame everyone else, mostly America, for the troubles of the world.

A time ago he refused to look at the responsibility that Greece had in its own downfall and instead blamed Germany and the Zionist bankers or was it World Bank. Never quite sure what record Wiz is playing. This is more of the same BS.

[BillyB]

BTW can you travel back to your country?

Yes I can. Although Vietnam is still run by a Communist government, they and America are on very friendly terms. Most people in Vietnam live in extreme poverty but it's not because America has sanctions on them.

[andrewfi]

Andrew, when Hugo Chavez took power, he seized American and European companies oil projects over there. He then seized land and assets belonging to American and European companies. He allow some Russian interests to remain. Chavez made his enemies and chose his friends. He is responsible for where his country is at now.

If a nation seized the assets of your family, would you continue to do business with that nation? Normal people wouldn't. America is normal.

So, then, notwithstanding what your dear leaders are telling you - in your opinion, Venezuela should be attacked because they nationalized some businesses? That's enough for you to condemn a nation to starvation and violence caused by the actions of the United States. Let's export some of them killing fields to South America, eh?

The United States is not (just) stopping doing business with Venezuela!
Go do some learning and quit the fantasies.
Given your heritage, what you are saying here is disgusting.

[BillyB]

in your opinion, Venezuela should be attacked because they nationalized some businesses? That's enough for you to condemn a nation to starvation and violence caused by the actions of the United States. Let's export some of them killing fields to South America, eh?

Andrew, if you stole from my family, I couldn't care less if you are starving and getting your ass kicked.

There's millions of Venezuelans that are calling on America to stop the problems in their country or should I say the guy/government that is causing the problems. Lots of refugees going to bordering nations and those bordering nations are wanting America's cooperation in stopping the crisis. You seem to have a different idea on who's causing the problem. If Venezuela's quality of life depends on America as you and Wiz imply, then they should not be biting off the hand that feeds them. Chavez and Maduro thought China and Russia would be an adequate substitute to take care of Venezuela. It's not working out too well for them.

[AvHdB]

It is on one side amusing but in reality sick the double standard of Wiz and Andrew espouse. America should not comment on the genocide in/of Chechnya and when the situation is in the Western Hemisphere than America is the bully.

Please why not try using simple common sense. You are being pathetic.

[Contrarian]

It is on one side amusing but in reality sick the double standard of Wiz and Andrew espouse. America should not comment on the genocide in/of Chechnya and when the situation is in the Western Hemisphere than America is the bully.

Please why not try using simple common sense. You are being pathetic.

Wiz is old, stubborn and likely suffering from onset dementia.

Andrew I suspect is getting paid for every anti-American pro-Russian paragraph of drivel. 

[cufflinks]

This will insure Wiz and Afi's Brains boil and Heads Explode!

The SHTF is a real possibility according to the latest Strategic Intelligence Newsletter:

Russian Nukes in Venezuela? Don’t Rule It Out

Are there Russian nuclear weapons in Venezuela today? According to this article, the answer is yes. I’m not so sure myself. The sourcing in this article is from a single member of Congress who does not offer any proof to back up the claim.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8977662/russia-nuke-missiles-venezuela-cuban-missile-crisis/

Still, the presence of nukes in Venezuela is a possibility that cannot be dismissed out of hand. Here’s what we do know. Some Russian troops (called “little green men” because they are uniformed in unmarked green jumpsuits) are present in Venezuela as are over 20,000 highly trained Cuban troops. Russian nuclear bombers (Tu-160s) landed in Caracas last December. It’s not clear if they carried nuclear weapons or not, but that is certainly possible. The U.S. has called for Nicolás Maduro to leave Venezuela, but Russia and Cuba (with China behind the scenes) have been instrumental in urging Maduro to stay in place. The recent “revolution in the streets” led by opposition leader Juan Guaidó failed miserably on May 1, 2019, with several casualties. The U.S. could apply force to oust Maduro (using Special Operations Command) if the only opposition came from the Venezuelan army. But with Russia and Cuban troops forming a Praetorian Guard around Maduro, the risks of escalation and direct confrontation between Russia and the U.S. are too high. The situation now is a political stalemate, but the starvation and misery of the Venezuelan people are all too real. My forecast is that the situation is not near a resolution and will get much worse before it is resolved. Markets are scarcely paying attention to this story. They should.

Newsflash Nukes in any Volatile Unpredictable Banana Republic wil NOT be tolerated.

[dcguyusa]

Another Caribbean missile crisis?   

US has also sanctioned trade against Iran, DPRK, Empire of Japan, and Nazi Germany, so all of that was unjustified because it is disrupting their economies?   

I visited Venezuela in 1991.  Downtown traffic in Caracas was TERRIBLE (worse than anywhere in the USA that I have visited).  At least now with no economy, the traffic situation should have improved.   

[Wiz]

This will insure Wiz and Afi's Brains boil and Heads Explode!

The SHTF is a real possibility according to the latest Strategic Intelligence Newsletter:

Russian Nukes in Venezuela? Don’t Rule It Out

Are there Russian nuclear weapons in Venezuela today? According to this article, the answer is yes. I’m not so sure myself. The sourcing in this article is from a single member of Congress who does not offer any proof to back up the claim.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8977662/russia-nuke-missiles-venezuela-cuban-missile-crisis/

Still, the presence of nukes in Venezuela is a possibility that cannot be dismissed out of hand. Here’s what we do know. Some Russian troops (called “little green men” because they are uniformed in unmarked green jumpsuits) are present in Venezuela as are over 20,000 highly trained Cuban troops. Russian nuclear bombers (Tu-160s) landed in Caracas last December. It’s not clear if they carried nuclear weapons or not, but that is certainly possible. The U.S. has called for Nicolás Maduro to leave Venezuela, but Russia and Cuba (with China behind the scenes) have been instrumental in urging Maduro to stay in place. The recent “revolution in the streets” led by opposition leader Juan Guaidó failed miserably on May 1, 2019, with several casualties.

The U.S. could apply force to oust Maduro (using Special Operations Command) if the only opposition came from the Venezuelan army. But with Russia and Cuban troops forming a Praetorian Guard around Maduro, the risks of escalation and direct confrontation between Russia and the U.S. are too high. The situation now is a political stalemate, but the starvation and misery of the Venezuelan people are all too real. My forecast is that the situation is not near a resolution and will get much worse before it is resolved. Markets are scarcely paying attention to this story. They should.

Newsflash Nukes in any Volatile Unpredictable Banana Republic wil NOT be tolerated.

Cuffi

Looks that your brain will be on fire,  if you sit back and start thinking logically.

Don't pay attention to "Confederate's" comments...... he is not only rude.... but also brain dead. I have many times pointed out to him....and others  but he still insists.... and you know what I call people that insist doing the same mistake ...
ASK Moby.....

Now to put your mind working and on the right track, start from the beginning.... here is a little hint.........

"Hidden Currency and $64 Billion of Chinese Funds Turned Venezuela back to the Levels of 1970"

Maduro for now it's well protected.........so what can you do?

It's very late, so I am off to sleep and you have time to solve the puzzle. Tomorrow or next day if I have time....I may write to you the story behind the Venezuela puzzle.

I gave you a hint....Good night!

 

[Wiz]

If Venezuela had followed a Norwegian or even a Cuban economic model NONE of the present misery would have occurred.

Agree partly, BUT USA has attacked the country financially, with sanctions etc...... Read your own us sources.

Wiz you have head so far up the ass of Global Research that you can not see reality from a field of unicorns. Why not do some research into this group and come back to RUA with your findings? It is disturbing evidence.

As you have done the research why don't you let me know/have your findings?

 

[Contrarian]

If Venezuela had followed a Norwegian or even a Cuban economic model NONE of the present misery would have occurred.

Agree partly, BUT USA has attacked the country financially, with sanctions etc...... Read your own us sources.

Wiz you have head so far up the ass of Global Research that you can not see reality from a field of unicorns. Why not do some research into this group and come back to RUA with your findings? It is disturbing evidence.

As you have done the research why don't you let me know/have your findings?

 

2tallbill has already previously rebutted all of your nonsense yet you persist in posting more gibberish propaganda.

I’ll dig up his posts and add an additional opinion of my own later when I have time.

[Contrarian]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/05/putin-is-ready-to-give-up-venezuela-for-the-right-price-a65487

[Wiz]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/05/putin-is-ready-to-give-up-venezuela-for-the-right-price-a65487

DO you know who is the REAL OWNER of Moscow Times?

I don't!......

[AvHdB]

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/05/putin-is-ready-to-give-up-venezuela-for-the-right-price-a65487

DO you know who is the REAL OWNER of Moscow Times?

I don't!......

Before I recall it was a Western Media group but some five to maybe even ten years ago ownership and controll shifted to a pro Kremlin group. A number of reporters left at this time in protest.

Today it might only be an online publication.

[Wiz]

Confederate and AV

Read article.and watch the video.......

Venezuela Coup Fails - An Initial Post-Mortem

Enjoy reading the comments.

Moscow Times used to publish a paper.... now it's only an internet site, based somewhere in the Caribbean........... So who pays them the Piper?

[BillyB]

Before I recall it was a Western Media group but some five to maybe even ten years ago ownership and controll shifted to a pro Kremlin group. A number of reporters left at this time in protest.

Today it might only be an online publication.

A few years ago, Russia change the law to say no more than 20% of media companies in Russia can be owned by foreigners. This new law severely punished some media organizations. Moscow Times moved their operations to the Netherlands but since they continue to distribute news in Russia, they sold 81% of their stake to two Russians to comply with the new law. Check out recent history in link below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moscow_Times

[Contrarian]

Hawkins of Breitbart on Maduro and gun control.
Every. Single. Time.

[cufflinks]

Confederate - please also post in the Americans and Guns thread - sure to make a lot of pacifistic blokes heads explode across the pond and wherever!

[cufflinks]

This will insure Wiz and Afi's Brains boil and Heads Explode!

The SHTF is a real possibility according to the latest Strategic Intelligence Newsletter:

Russian Nukes in Venezuela? Don’t Rule It Out

Are there Russian nuclear weapons in Venezuela today? According to this article, the answer is yes. I’m not so sure myself. The sourcing in this article is from a single member of Congress who does not offer any proof to back up the claim.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8977662/russia-nuke-missiles-venezuela-cuban-missile-crisis/

Still, the presence of nukes in Venezuela is a possibility that cannot be dismissed out of hand. Here’s what we do know. Some Russian troops (called “little green men” because they are uniformed in unmarked green jumpsuits) are present in Venezuela as are over 20,000 highly trained Cuban troops. Russian nuclear bombers (Tu-160s) landed in Caracas last December. It’s not clear if they carried nuclear weapons or not, but that is certainly possible. The U.S. has called for Nicolás Maduro to leave Venezuela, but Russia and Cuba (with China behind the scenes) have been instrumental in urging Maduro to stay in place. The recent “revolution in the streets” led by opposition leader Juan Guaidó failed miserably on May 1, 2019, with several casualties.

The U.S. could apply force to oust Maduro (using Special Operations Command) if the only opposition came from the Venezuelan army. But with Russia and Cuban troops forming a Praetorian Guard around Maduro, the risks of escalation and direct confrontation between Russia and the U.S. are too high. The situation now is a political stalemate, but the starvation and misery of the Venezuelan people are all too real. My forecast is that the situation is not near a resolution and will get much worse before it is resolved. Markets are scarcely paying attention to this story. They should.

Newsflash Nukes in any Volatile Unpredictable Banana Republic wil NOT be tolerated.

Cuffi

Looks that your brain will be on fire,  if you sit back and start thinking logically.

Don't pay attention to "Confederate's" comments...... he is not only rude.... but also brain dead. I have many times pointed out to him....and others  but he still insists.... and you know what I call people that insist doing the same mistake ...
ASK Moby.....

Now to put your mind working and on the right track, start from the beginning.... here is a little hint.........

"Hidden Currency and $64 Billion of Chinese Funds Turned Venezuela back to the Levels of 1970"

Maduro for now it's well protected.........so what can you do?

It's very late, so I am off to sleep and you have time to solve the puzzle. Tomorrow or next day if I have time....I may write to you the story behind the Venezuela puzzle.

I gave you a hint....Good night!

 

So What the Phock Can the USA Masters of the Universe and Beyond Do our Greek Marxist Socialist Friend Asks?

25% Tariffs to go into effect on 250 Billion$ of Chinese Junk Exports this week and then 25% on all $500 Billions$ of Chinese Junk Exports to follow soon thereafter... and the fact is the USA then just buys more Quality Stuff from Korea, Japan, EU, Canada, and our Latin American neighbors IF the Chinese raise prices.  Chinese still stunned and amazed that their control and bribery of the DSA CPUSA and their MSM minions have not worked so they are desperate to make a deal shockingly even on TRUMP's fully reciprocal terms and the dirty secret is the Chinese government has been absorbing the losses to retain market share  - turns out the Communist Freaking Red Chinese have been TRUMPED by Tarriffs as it was their Chinese Red Commie Achilles heel right along so any talks that Tarrifs hurt the USA Consumer is MSM Marxist Socialist Communist PROPAGANDA so BTFOOHMF!

[Wiz]

Cuffi….

The more you post your views about USA investments, Tariffs, Sanctions etc the more you prove/expose to your Greek - Marxist - Socialist Friend and the world the real panic and terror that has dissented and embroiled the US economy and  admin and the Casino gangsters. You Mafia representative, President “Tramp”, I read today, that he has a big problem in his personal wealth…… from the various Business he owns. Last year they lost $1 Billion. How many more times can he go bankrupt to avoid paying his debts?

The USA economy is running and depends on a perpetual debt, which today stands at $23 Trillion Dollars. Obviously US have no intention to pay its debts and you may soon discover that all these hard tactics, sanctions and Tariffs, around the world will comeback and bite your ass. So for how long more you can continue on the same line? Soon you will discover that these investors who buy American Government Bond will start selling their investments and go to safer places……

Today the US have arrested a North Korea boat and I am waiting to see how Fat Kim will react. He can very easily strike a rocket in your S Korea of Japan bases……….

China doesn’t give a shit about your threads and sanctions. They can start offloading their holdings in $ dollars and then will see the real US economy sinking.

Haven’t you realised that most products you are selling inside USA were build in China?

Have you noticed what measures Vladimir Putin put in place against your threads and attacks to their economy of natural resources? He has accumulated more than 10 $ Billion Gold and is using all his income in Dollars to buy Gold.  He has also managed to buy and hold 51% of the US Uranium production.

Did you hear the statement from the Iranians….. only 60 days for the US to behave……and what about the EU and Germany sanctions?

About Venezuela, I gave you a Hint but seems you do not have a clue of what is going on there!

[andrewfi]

Cufflinks, when your carer goes to the shops to buy your new bundle of sanitary products does he intentionally buy the lowest quality he can find?

Unless he really hates you and enjoys cleaning up the mess, he will not. He will buy the best he can afford within his budget.

Now, extend your sanitary needs to the wider economy and ask a similar question: when a consumer goes to buy a product does he intentionally buy the lowest quality product he can find or does he buy the best available within his budget?

The answer, for rational people, is the latter.

So, when your carer, or even you, go and buys a product that was manufactured in China it will be the best available within your budget. Your budget tends to not care too much where stuff is made.

When tariffs are imposed and prices go up, how much of your needs will be sourced from Vietnam, Japan, Korea etc.? In truth, very little. That's because those products do not exist, if they did, they'd already be sold at the same or very similar price to the Chinese goods that you now imagine will be substituted - that's how a free market works.

What will happen is that tariffs set a new lower floor for pricing. The Chinese products will be on the shelves, just as they are now. Products that exist on the market at a higher price, presumably with higher quality will raise their prices to keep a differential and, whatever happens, U.S. consumers will be paying more for the goods they buy. All that revenue will flow to the U.S. government. You are being taxed and you do not realise it.

I know that I am not the first to make this point: it might be that the Trump White House is entirely happy to have sanctions and tariffs in place because they improve the revenue to the state without having to raise taxes. Problem is that you poor mugs are paying money to the government as if you were being taxed and none of you has the wit to moan about it.

The United States is the only country in the world where the Turkeys routinely vote for Christmas (or Thanksgiving).

[Wiz]

Cufflinks,

I know that I am not the first to make this point: it might be that the Trump White House is entirely happy to have sanctions and tariffs in place because they improve the revenue to the state without having to raise taxes. Problem is that you poor mugs are paying money to the government as if you were being taxed and none of you has the wit to moan about it.

The United States is the only country in the world where the Turkeys routinely vote for Christmas (or Thanksgiving). 

               

[AvHdB]

So, when your carer, or even you, go and buys a product that was manufactured in China it will be the best available within your budget. Your budget tends to not care too much where stuff is made.

When tariffs are imposed and prices go up, how much of your needs will be sourced from Vietnam, Japan, Korea etc.? In truth, very little. That's because those products do not exist, if they did, they'd already be sold at the same or very similar price to the Chinese goods that you now imagine will be substituted - that's how a free market works.

OKAY I am the first to admit it I am in the minority. But I do look at where products are made and I will buy a Fes/Metabo tool (Germany) over some crap from China. Even if it's branded from an American company.

Likewise I will buy a Ralph Lauren shirt that is made in the far east, but not China over any other garment. The company has stated they do not use prison labour and pay there employees a fair wage. For suits I prefer Burberry or Hickey Freeman which are made in the United States.

So some will look at the place of manufacturing & decide accordingly.