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Is FSU an outdated term?
« on: April 20, 2019, 02:03:10 PM »
The Soviet Union closed its doors almost 30 years ago. To refer to the region as the FSU suggests that one is probably not to in touch with the region, the countries or the culture.

Try to think in a light that is less than 30 years outdated, more positive.
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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2019, 02:56:35 PM »
The Soviet Union closed its doors almost 30 years ago. To refer to the region as the FSU suggests that one is probably not to in touch with the region, the countries or the culture.

Try to think in a light that is less than 30 years outdated, more positive.

What would be a better term for referring to all women and region of the former Soviet Union?

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 04:14:08 PM »
If discussing Russia, then, perhaps Russia?

The countries in the region are now very different from how they were 30 years ago and different from each other.

Sometimes shorthand terms are helpful describing a disparate group of countries by a term that implies no longer relevant commonalities is misleading, unhelpful, and displays an attitude that is unhelpful and inaccurate.
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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 04:35:43 PM »
The countries in the region are now very different from how they were 30 years ago and different from each other.

Even in USSR times, I'd divide all the FSU republics in following groups:
- Slavic (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova);
- Baltics (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania);
- North Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan);
- -stans (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tadjikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan).

These "groups" are different from each other in many, many ways.
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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 05:45:39 PM »

What would be a better term for referring to all women and region of the former Soviet Union?

I would say just say the specific country instead.  It's like saying I like Asian women: Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Thai, are all Asian but very different from each other.

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2019, 06:38:25 PM »
And how might one refer to groups of countries that share a history collectively?

In the dating sphere for example, people consider Belarus, Russia and Ukraine (mostly) and the discussion is framed around those countries. They are all former Soviet Union countries, why the issue with referring to them thus? They share a common history; that shared history brings much commonality among the peoples.
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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2019, 06:45:47 PM »

What would be a better term for referring to all women and region of the former Soviet Union?

I would say just say the specific country instead.  It's like saying I like Asian women: Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Thai, are all Asian but very different from each other.

I take your point with Asia, but there does seem to be more sub-ethnicities and self-defined cultural differences amongst those countries.
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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2019, 07:02:18 PM »
Sometimes shorthand terms are helpful describing a disparate group of countries by a term that implies no longer relevant commonalities is misleading, unhelpful, and displays an attitude that is unhelpful and inaccurate.


I would say just say the specific country instead.  It's like saying I like Asian women: Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Thai, are all Asian but very different from each other.



Most men in this endeavor on a forum like this is looking for a Slavic woman. When I visited a woman from the past living in Uzbekistan, she was Russian, not Uzbek. She was more Russian than Uzbek. She was Christian, not Muslim. For me to tell everybody I visited an Uzbek woman in a trip report would be misleading. If someone mentioned they are looking for a FSU(former Soviet Union) woman, I would not have a problem with it. If someone said they are looking for a Slavic, Baltic, or woman from the Stans, to be more specific, that's even better.

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2019, 07:02:42 PM »
The countries in the region are now very different from how they were 30 years ago and different from each other.

Even in USSR times, I'd divide all the FSU republics in following groups:
- Slavic (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova);
- Baltics (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania);
- North Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan);
- -stans (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tadjikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan).

These "groups" are different from each other in many, many ways.

Moldova isn't Slavic.  They are ethnically closer to Romanians than to Russians and so is their language. 

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2019, 07:11:51 PM »
The countries in the region are now very different from how they were 30 years ago and different from each other.

Even in USSR times, I'd divide all the FSU republics in following groups:
- Slavic (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova);
- Baltics (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania);
- North Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan);
- -stans (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tadjikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan).

These "groups" are different from each other in many, many ways.

Moldova isn't Slavic.  They are ethnically closer to Romanians than to Russians and so is their language.

They’re a mixed group of people with some pure Slavs in there. Would you turn one down who was attractive but more Romanian as you say?

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2019, 07:25:09 PM »

Moldova isn't Slavic.  They are ethnically closer to Romanians than to Russians and so is their language.

way to nitpick...I can see why you're a real hit with the ladies.  :chuckle:

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2019, 07:35:55 PM »

Most men in this endeavor on a forum like this is looking for a Slavic woman.

If someone mentioned they are looking for a FSU(former Soviet Union) woman, I would not have a problem with it. If someone said they are looking for a Slavic, Baltic, or woman from the Stans, to be more specific, that's even better.

Good point. when people say FSU they are referring to Russian ethnicity.  Not Armenian, Kazak etc...

What's interesting is that in Moscow I met a few mixed women.  Some had non-Russian names, father was from Arab or European countries.  But they grew up in Russia and culturally are Russian.

I met some half Armenian/Russian, Kazakh Russian women too. 

People I know don't say the term FSU, most guys will say "Russia" and consider Ukraine, Belarus to be part of it. the Soviet Union was before their time.

 

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2019, 08:57:33 PM »

Moldova isn't Slavic.  They are ethnically closer to Romanians than to Russians and so is their language.

way to nitpick...I can see why you're a real hit with the ladies.  :chuckle:

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2019, 08:58:35 PM »
mods, please assist in keeping the threads on topic. 

useless criticism doesn't help at all.  some people think this is elementary school where they can bully people. 

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Re: Is FSU an outdated term?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2019, 09:19:58 PM »
I do not think referring to FSU in the context of dating is wrong or even lacking in tact.

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