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Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« on: March 15, 2019, 03:48:41 AM »
Looks like there were a couple of mosque massacres in New Zealand today. I'm not particularly well acquainted with NZ, so you might imagine my initial confusion hearing that Muslims were shot in Christchurch ("what were they doing there anyway?" I thought to myself).  :biggrin:

Looks like nearly fifty people are dead.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/new-zealand-christchurch-shooting-intl/index.html
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 06:33:02 AM »
Its been all over the news. Apparently the guy filmed it on a head mounted camera.

The BBC is full of people hand wringing and turning themselves inside out explaining how peaceful Muslims are. Just like they did when a Muslim blew up the kids concert here in Manchester.
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2019, 07:12:36 AM »
Its been all over the news. Apparently the guy filmed it on a head mounted camera.

The BBC is full of people hand wringing and turning themselves inside out explaining how peaceful Muslims are. Just like they did when a Muslim blew up the kids concert here in Manchester.

Manny, read the article again.  it was the Muslims that were killed
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 07:34:24 AM »
Its been all over the news. Apparently the guy filmed it on a head mounted camera.

The BBC is full of people hand wringing and turning themselves inside out explaining how peaceful Muslims are. Just like they did when a Muslim blew up the kids concert here in Manchester.

Manny, read the article again.  it was the Muslims that were killed

I'm fully aware of that. The point I was making is called shoe on other foot.
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 07:43:58 AM »
Just found and watched a rip of the shooter's livestream body cam footage on Documenting Reality‚Ķ pretty brutal stuff. He was using an automatic rifle with quite the surplus of spare mags. He also employed tactics like leaving the building (perhaps also to retrieve more ammunition) and then re-entering sometime later to kill more people who'd by then come out of hiding to render aid; a shooter clearly unafraid of consequences. 
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 08:29:19 AM »
What comes round goes around!!

This time Christian terrorists or just pissed off Christians..

All this shit has started happening over the last twenty years!! Simple as that!! No arguments.. There were plenty of Muslims about back in the 80's No problems then!!??

So what changed that?? Tony Blair and his friends ?? Something changed everything in the last twenty years and we all know what that is .. ;D


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As I said never happened 20 years ago did it?? End of  story..
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 12:05:15 PM »
A sad affair. Nobody deserves to be shot and among the dead i dare to bet werent terrorists.
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 04:53:23 PM »
This time Christian terrorists or just pissed off Christians..

All this shit has started happening over the last twenty years!!

Last 20 years?   Mass murder and religious conflicts have occurred way beyond 20 years.  Probably goes beyond 5000 B.C. :duh:

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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 11:34:21 PM »
This time Christian terrorists or just pissed off Christians..

All this shit has started happening over the last twenty years!!

Last 20 years?   Mass murder and religious conflicts have occurred way beyond 20 years.  Probably goes beyond 5000 B.C. :duh:

I can't remember in the 1850's  a John Wayne look alike going into the local collage and blasting away 40 kids?   :laugh:

Or the sheriff of Missouri  shooting a couple of 12 year old kids ..

I guess the last mass killing was 75 years back  that was 3 million who were frazzled thanks to our GERMAN friends..
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2019, 12:23:56 AM »
This time Christian terrorists or just pissed off Christians..

All this shit has started happening over the last twenty years!!

Last 20 years?   Mass murder and religious conflicts have occurred way beyond 20 years.  Probably goes beyond 5000 B.C. :duh:

I can't remember in the 1850's  a John Wayne look alike going into the local collage and blasting away 40 kids?   :laugh:

Or the sheriff of Missouri  shooting a couple of 12 year old kids ..

I guess the last mass killing was 75 years back  that was 3 million who were frazzled thanks to our GERMAN friends..

As opposed to about 40 Million Slavs thanks to our Bolshevik JEW friends.  :coffeeread:
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2019, 12:31:35 AM »
This time Christian terrorists or just pissed off Christians..

All this shit has started happening over the last twenty years!!

Last 20 years?   Mass murder and religious conflicts have occurred way beyond 20 years.  Probably goes beyond 5000 B.C. :duh:

I can't remember in the 1850's  a John Wayne look alike going into the local collage and blasting away 40 kids?   :laugh:

Or the sheriff of Missouri  shooting a couple of 12 year old kids ..

I guess the last mass killing was 75 years back  that was 3 million who were frazzled thanks to our GERMAN friends..

As opposed to about 40 Million Slavs thanks to our Bolshevik JEW friends.  :coffeeread:


 :thumbsup:  And the 20 million innocents, kids, women and babies that have been killed via the US regime changes over the last few years, some still dying now from Agent orange .. not a nice world we live in really is it..
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2019, 03:33:52 AM »
Well I'm sure you will have all seen a lot more about this by now.

The shooter was an "Right Wing" Australian citizen, who had legally obtained these semi-automatic weapons in NZ (that are not obtainable in Australia due to our gun laws eg: AR-15 and pump action shotguns). He had moved to NZ to plan and train for an attack on Muslims somewhere else in the world (presumably Australia) but decided in act on his plans in Christchurch. He obviously did not expect to survive his attack, and has left a manifesto outlining his thoughts and plans that runs to over 70 pages. There were 2 bombs left in his car that have been disarmed. He live streamed this attack, and it is getting deleted as copies are found on the internet. It was very graphic and disturbing. Racism and extremism kills, whether it is Muslim on Christian or the reverse.

The Australian Nation has always viewed New Zealanders (Kiwi's) as our little brothers or cousins. As with all little brothers, they love to beat us at anything, but especially sport. We can freely travel, live and work in each others country, and we fight together as ANZACs in many wars. We stand together in adversity, and against attack as family.

I have lived in NZ twice so far in my lifetime, once for 4 years in Christchurch, where this attack took place. I know the area around the largest Mosque and Hagley Park very well. This city used to be called "more England than England itself". It's beauty and peacefulness was known worldwide. It literally is the "last place in the world" (at the end of the world) you could imagine being a terrorist target by extremists of either grouping. Prior to this NZ's biggest fears were earthquakes, and the All Blacks losing a Rugby match (rarely happens).

I admit to being disturbed by new Muslim immigrants who do not want to assimilate into my society but expect me to change my way of life to fit them. Who demand we pay for them as they sit back and complain how hard life is, and try to make us accept Sharia Law and Halal.

Australia was built as a country of immigrants after being founded by convicts. Everyone worked hard together creating this new nation.  "10 pound Poms" (Brits), "Wogs" (Greeks, Italians, Slavs, Egyptians) didn't get handouts when they moved here. They learnt english as they worked bloody hard to create a better life, often living in tin/fibro shacks or even tents. Mom and Dad might have had 2,3 or 4 jobs to "get ahead" and give their kids a bright future. We had Muslim Afghan cameleers who managed to survive without halal foods, and demands to close our pools so their women could swim alone! Shamefully, they were all treated better than the native peoples, the Aboriginal tribes.

It's scary the way the "new" wave of immigrants/refugees behave in Australia, and the demands they have. The "do-gooders" and PC brigade have made ordinary people afraid to speak and have an opinion. I am afraid of the new environment I find myself part of, even though growing up I had the best "wog" friends who I love to this day (and they are "proud wogs" just as I am a proud "skip").

I deplore that now Nationalism can be used for hate and destruction rather than Nation building, and that extremists think taking life is a means to an end. This constant loss of innocent life is never justified.
At least we know "why" this gunman murdered so many people. He was an extremist determined to "payback" Muslims for the many Terrorist attacks on "westerners". Some killings, like Las Vegas, we never know.

Anyway friends and colleagues, let's try to live in peace and understanding,
and as they say in NZ Maori, Kia Kaha (stay strong)


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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2019, 04:08:52 AM »
Well I'm sure you will have all seen a lot more about this by now.

The shooter was an "Right Wing" Australian citizen, who had legally obtained these semi-automatic weapons in NZ (that are not obtainable in Australia due to our gun laws eg: AR-15 and pump action shotguns). He had moved to NZ to plan and train for an attack on Muslims somewhere else in the world (presumably Australia) but decided in act on his plans in Christchurch. He obviously did not expect to survive his attack, and has left a manifesto outlining his thoughts and plans that runs to over 70 pages. There were 2 bombs left in his car that have been disarmed. He live streamed this attack, and it is getting deleted as copies are found on the internet. It was very graphic and disturbing. Racism and extremism kills, whether it is Muslim on Christian or the reverse.

The Australian Nation has always viewed New Zealanders (Kiwi's) as our little brothers or cousins. As with all little brothers, they love to beat us at anything, but especially sport. We can freely travel, live and work in each others country, and we fight together as ANZACs in many wars. We stand together in adversity, and against attack as family.

I have lived in NZ twice so far in my lifetime, once for 4 years in Christchurch, where this attack took place. I know the area around the largest Mosque and Hagley Park very well. This city used to be called "more England than England itself". It's beauty and peacefulness was known worldwide. It literally is the "last place in the world" (at the end of the world) you could imagine being a terrorist target by extremists of either grouping. Prior to this NZ's biggest fears were earthquakes, and the All Blacks losing a Rugby match (rarely happens).

I admit to being disturbed by new Muslim immigrants who do not want to assimilate into my society but expect me to change my way of life to fit them. Who demand we pay for them as they sit back and complain how hard life is, and try to make us accept Sharia Law and Halal.

Australia was built as a country of immigrants after being founded by convicts. Everyone worked hard together creating this new nation.  "10 pound Poms" (Brits), "Wogs" (Greeks, Italians, Slavs, Egyptians) didn't get handouts when they moved here. They learnt english as they worked bloody hard to create a better life, often living in tin/fibro shacks or even tents. Mom and Dad might have had 2,3 or 4 jobs to "get ahead" and give their kids a bright future. We had Muslim Afghan cameleers who managed to survive without halal foods, and demands to close our pools so their women could swim alone! Shamefully, they were all treated better than the native peoples, the Aboriginal tribes.

It's scary the way the "new" wave of immigrants/refugees behave in Australia, and the demands they have. The "do-gooders" and PC brigade have made ordinary people afraid to speak and have an opinion. I am afraid of the new environment I find myself part of, even though growing up I had the best "wog" friends who I love to this day (and they are "proud wogs" just as I am a proud "skip").

I deplore that now Nationalism can be used for hate and destruction rather than Nation building, and that extremists think taking life is a means to an end. This constant loss of innocent life is never justified.
At least we know "why" this gunman murdered so many people. He was an extremist determined to "payback" Muslims for the many Terrorist attacks on "westerners". Some killings, like Las Vegas, we never know.

Anyway friends and colleagues, let's try to live in peace and understanding,
and as they say in NZ Maori, Kia Kaha (stay strong)

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new Muslim immigrants who do not want to assimilate into my society but expect me to change my way of life to fit them. Who demand we pay for them as they sit back and complain how hard life is, and try to make us accept Sharia Law and Halal

And that is where the problem is.. so nothing is ever going to change because people are to soft with these people..
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Re: Mass Shootings In New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2019, 04:20:16 AM »

People are going to have one hell of a wake up call in a few years , you'r all going to be bloody Muslims! Like it or not.. it is already forced on half the population of London, supermarkets are selling  halal  meat without even informing the general public , your eating their shit and don't even realize it..so you on your way to Mecca already.. :laugh:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315278/Top-supermarkets-secretly-sell-halal-Sainsburys-Tesco-Waitrose-M-S-dont-tell-meat-ritually-slaughtered.html

The more you think about it.. there more it can pee you off.. but get used to it! Don't open your mouth or they will have you for racial hate..
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