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Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« on: March 07, 2019, 11:53:07 AM »
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2019, 02:26:43 PM »
The 8th of March is tomorrow. You still have time. Contact me if your lady is in Ukraine; I can arrange flowers/gifts delivery on short notice anywhere in Ukraine for $60! Flowers (not included) are about $15.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2019, 02:56:35 PM »
Thank you. Not so good as five/ten years ago. The Crimea is lost and a lot of business with it too as well as my life style and some property there. But it’s life. I guess I am still luckier than certain Syrians. No bombing and gas attacks from Russian planes so far. One thing is for certain, I spend more time with my wife now that I no longer shuttle between Odessa and the Crimea. And I’m a different person. I am tougher and more determined now. I was in the army and got my own AKM at home now. I don’t give up.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2019, 03:03:55 PM »
Greetings to my favorite spy!
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2019, 07:09:36 PM »
Thank you. Not so good as five/ten years ago. The Crimea is lost and a lot of business with it too as well as my life style and some property there. But it’s life. I guess I am still luckier than certain Syrians. No bombing and gas attacks from Russian planes so far. One thing is for certain, I spend more time with my wife now that I no longer shuttle between Odessa and the Crimea. And I’m a different person. I am tougher and more determined now. I was in the army and got my own AKM at home now. I don’t give up.

Very interesting. Were you just recently in the Ukrainian Army? Can you tell us more, for example where you were stationed? Being from Odessa don’t you speak Russian as your first language?
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2019, 07:13:11 PM »
Greetings to my favorite spy!


I wouldn’t joke about that. The mere implication could cause serious problems should Russia try to get their land bridge.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2019, 07:19:07 PM »
Greetings to my favorite spy!


I wouldn’t joke about that. The mere implication could cause serious problems should Russia try to get their land bridge.

Relax, Stirlitz is a famous character from a TV series in the Soviet Union time. He was a spy who is/was part of folklore. Sort of James Bond & Austin Powers in a single character.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2019, 07:21:14 PM »
Greetings to my favorite spy!


I wouldn’t joke about that. The mere implication could cause serious problems should Russia try to get their land bridge.

Relax, Stirlitz is a famous character from a TV series in the Soviet Union time. He was a bumbling spy.


TPTB are just absurd enough to ignore that and consider it to be a cover.  :chuckle:
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2019, 01:33:22 PM »
Very interesting. Were you just recently in the Ukrainian Army? Can you tell us more, for example where you were stationed? Being from Odessa don’t you speak Russian as your first language?
I was there in 2015. I was stationed in Odessa. In fact, at Odessa Airport as a border guard.



I speak Odessan as my native language as I was born in Odessa. I am told that those hordes in the north speak the same language but it sounds different although they indeed use a lot of similar words.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2019, 02:17:24 PM »
Very interesting. Were you just recently in the Ukrainian Army? Can you tell us more, for example where you were stationed? Being from Odessa don’t you speak Russian as your first language?
I was there in 2015. I was stationed in Odessa. In fact, at Odessa Airport as a border guard.



I speak Odessan as my native language as I was born in Odessa. I am told that those hordes in the north speak the same language but it sounds different although they indeed use a lot of similar words.


Well congratulations on being patriotic. I’m glad you feel it toughened you up. It’s a very serious situation for Ukraine. I’ve heard that the number of Ukrainian males serving is quite small which puts a lot of pressure on the frontline combat troops.

I went into the service right after High School, it was a patriotic thing to do being from a small city originally. Thankfully never saw combat. Now that I know more about it I wouldn’t go again unless the continental USA was being invaded.

PS. That’s an excellent photo of you BTW, thanks for sharing!
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2019, 05:01:16 PM »
Welcome back, Igor. It’s been a long time. 8 years actually.

Crimea is lost

You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2019, 05:02:16 PM »
Welcome back, Igor. It’s been a long time. 8 years actually.

Crimea is lost

You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?
Crimea has been lost to Ukraine. It does not matter about a vote.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2019, 05:04:18 PM »
Welcome back, Igor. It’s been a long time. 8 years actually.

Crimea is lost

You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?
Crimea has been lost to Ukraine. It does not matter about a vote.

Nice to see Igor back all the same.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2019, 02:15:11 AM »
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2019, 08:34:18 AM »
Welcome back, Igor. It’s been a long time. 8 years actually.

Crimea is lost

You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?

There was a vote, I doubt it was very democratic LOL.
As said above the how and why have little consolation now.
It is what it is. Likely the sad part is two very close countries
are not so close anymore.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2019, 09:55:58 AM »
I will happily recommend igor & his services to anyone who asks

I second the recommendedation.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2019, 01:26:49 PM »
You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?
Not sure what to say unless you are kidding. OK, I DO NOT THINK SO. Of course, not. The Crimea was occupied using military force, that is a clear fact. Any 'vote' that you refer to was slapstick for domestic users. It was about 30% of the locals who went there.

And it did not return home. What is its 'home'? It was Greek for a thousand years. It was Turkish for 300 years.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA..
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2019, 01:49:52 PM »
Poor Stirlitz,

Perhaps he didn't realise RUA stands for Revisionists Unite Against ( facts), now

Thou shalt not question the mantra ...

How could anyone suggest the 'little green men' were not GRU physically seizing Parliament, the hosts military installations, TV / radio / comms masts ..by pointing guns were not acting militarily ?

How could anyone question the 'referendum' result or the need to become Russian ?..









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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2019, 02:06:03 PM »
You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?
Not sure what to say unless you are kidding. OK, I DO NOT THINK SO. Of course, not. The Crimea was occupied using military force, that is a clear fact. Any 'vote' that you refer to was slapstick for domestic users. It was about 30% of the locals who went there.

And it did not return home. What is its 'home'? It was Greek for a thousand years. It was Turkish for 300 years.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2019, 04:37:43 PM »
The inhabitants of this planet (descended from who knows where or maybe conjured up from dirt) appear to have this notion that they "own" certain regions of the planet.  When the next major asteroid or comet makes a bee line straight to the center of the planet, I don't think their pronouncements of ownership will be able to be backed up.   :GRAVE:  :o (:)
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2019, 09:58:05 PM »

Article 73 of the Ukrainian constitution says any change of borders is to be voted in a referendum of all Ukrainian people. In other words if an Oblast wants to leave, it has to be by vote of all Ukrainian people. The vote in Crimea wasn't legal.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2019, 01:01:21 AM »
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You are in the wrong place to  put that point..

Manny and andrewfi - will both contend who had the bigger army was 'correct' when it comes to Ukraine


...and anyway - according to the Communist Party of Ukraine ( SSR) - Ukraine never left the USSR and it never - legally broke up ;)




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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2019, 08:30:02 AM »

Article 73 of the Ukrainian constitution says any change of borders is to be voted in a referendum of all Ukrainian people. In other words if an Oblast wants to leave, it has to be by vote of all Ukrainian people. The vote in Crimea wasn't legal.

Yet Crimea wasn't Fully Ukrainian to begin with, its full name being "The autonomous republic of Crimea" , so not all of Ukrainian law applied on Crimea. They certainly had their own right to vote and they did just that.

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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2019, 08:32:43 AM »
You don’t think Crimea returned home by democratic vote?
Not sure what to say unless you are kidding. OK, I DO NOT THINK SO. Of course, not. The Crimea was occupied using military force, that is a clear fact. Any 'vote' that you refer to was slapstick for domestic users. It was about 30% of the locals who went there.

And it did not return home. What is its 'home'? It was Greek for a thousand years. It was Turkish for 300 years.

Home is where the heart is. Most of my inlaws living in Crimea feel "Crimean", and only after that Russian or Ukrainian.

During the vote, I saw a huge skype-time with my mother inlaw in Evpatoria and that was basicly a huge streetparty. There certainly weren' any guns involved and everyone already knew the outcome before the voting ended.
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Re: Stirlitz Returns to RUA
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
Stirlitz iirc your mother lived in a small Crimean village surrounded by peach orchards - hope she is well despite the politics of the UA/RU situation - congrats on your choice to serve in the Armed Forces accelerates a mans maturity and focus.