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What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« on: December 05, 2018, 01:59:52 PM »
Okay, hopefully this will be fun. I'm sure the UK guys will remind us Americans about how inferior we are in every way, LOL!  :laugh:

Knock yourselves out. Hopefully Zhenya of Kyiv will contribute, even though she's not a Russian national we really appreciate having her here!  tiphat

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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 05:56:42 AM »
Yes, I am 100% Ukrainian and if you look where the most beautiful women are, its definitely not Russia, but Ukraine,though. I have read a report on this but long ago so cant provide a link. It was a historical study. But the first question is why in general American men do not want their own women but FSU women? My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. Of course there are exceptions. And probably American men have stereotypes that we here can do anything for them and that he is buying a nurse. But that is not the case anymore. Ukrainian women became more independent and make their own choices in life now. And we have plenty of men here who know how to take care of a woman. We are very emotional and need real love. Just some girls are hunting for wealth. And statistics on happy marriages from dating agencies is very low. Just start to look around, maybe your love is just round the corner and you do not need to cross the oceans to find it. But indeed sometimes miracles happen and people find each other in different corners of the world. I like such an expression-there are no loving halves:there are people with whom you want to spend one hour, couple days or the whole life.... So love and be loved!

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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 12:18:45 PM »
Yes, I am 100% Ukrainian and if you look where the most beautiful women are, its definitely not Russia, but Ukraine,though. I have read a report on this but long ago so cant provide a link. It was a historical study. But the first question is why in general American men do not want their own women but FSU women? My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. Of course there are exceptions. And probably American men have stereotypes that we here can do anything for them and that he is buying a nurse. But that is not the case anymore. Ukrainian women became more independent and make their own choices in life now. And we have plenty of men here who know how to take care of a woman. We are very emotional and need real love. Just some girls are hunting for wealth. And statistics on happy marriages from dating agencies is very low. Just start to look around, maybe your love is just round the corner and you do not need to cross the oceans to find it. But indeed sometimes miracles happen and people find each other in different corners of the world. I like such an expression-there are no loving halves:there are people with whom you want to spend one hour, couple days or the whole life.... So love and be loved!

Where to begin?

First it’s a stereotype that Ukrainian women are more beautiful than Russian women.

At some point physical beauty is a drawback, most guys would rather date a 7 with inner beauty and a warm personality than ice princess who is 8, 9 or 10.

If you lived USA as a man you would not bother with this question.

There’s an obesity epidemic; 65% of AW are obese. If you’re an average to good looking guy with a healthy body weight would you be happy with that or look elsewhere?

Poor appearance? When you see 200lb short woman in sweatpants in USA it’s not because she’s going to the gym, it’s because she’s too lazy to make any attempt whatsoever to dress nice and take pride in her appearance. Then there are the tattoos; it’s a nightmare.

Entitlement? My friend in CA says all they want to do is eat Bon Bon’s and expect the man to contribute everything, while running up his credit cards.

Piggy? I had two female roommates in college, both disgusting pigs. They did not contribute to cleaning the apt. and their rooms disaster zones.

Mental illness? The song “Baby it’s cold outside” used to be romantic. Now the guy must be trying to rape her, go figure.

No doubt they’d rather date a rapper who would refer to them as a bit*h and “ho”.

                   




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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 03:25:36 PM »
Zhenya,

I'm going to give you a different example, one which I hope will make perfect sense.

Back in the 1970's it's safe to say that American car manufacturers had gotten lazy and were building cars which were no longer top quality, as well they were gas guzzlers.

Along came Volkswagen selling VW Beetles and Honda selling Civics and Accords. Very soon afterwards a sizeable portion of the American public fell in love with import cars, especially of the Japanese variety and begin to purchase them a lot.

Of course initially the American carmakers sqealed and complained that it wasn't fair and that patriotic Americans only purchased "made in America". Eventually they had to get their act together and make cars which were much better quality and which were also more fuel efficient.

I would say it took at least a decade for the American manufacturers to catch up to the Japanese and Europeans.

That's what is called a "global market", people like to be able to purchase what they want and from where.

It may sound crass but the reality is that dating and marriage is also a global market now. Men want women who are actually willing to contribute to a relationship in meaningful ways and ones who wish to commit and get married.

American Women and Western Women in general are bitching, moaning and kvetching about it; so sad, too bad.

They don't want to eat healthy, get in shape, dress like a lady or sometimes sexy (and I don't mean the sluts bouncing around, I mean the ones mentally healthy enough to commit) in order to attract a man, put away their lousy attitudes, etc.

They're at least a decade away and many men are practicing MGTOW and not interested in them at all. Thanks "feminism" for destroying romance! But seriously I think some men are really Masochists to date them....they just need to take the red pill.  :chuckle:
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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 07:39:05 PM »
Yes, I am 100% Ukrainian and if you look where the most beautiful women are, its definitely not Russia, but Ukraine,though. I have read a report on this but long ago so cant provide a link. It was a historical study. But the first question is why in general American men do not want their own women but FSU women? My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. Of course there are exceptions. And probably American men have stereotypes that we here can do anything for them and that he is buying a nurse. But that is not the case anymore. Ukrainian women became more independent and make their own choices in life now. And we have plenty of men here who know how to take care of a woman. We are very emotional and need real love. Just some girls are hunting for wealth. And statistics on happy marriages from dating agencies is very low. Just start to look around, maybe your love is just round the corner and you do not need to cross the oceans to find it. But indeed sometimes miracles happen and people find each other in different corners of the world. I like such an expression-there are no loving halves:there are people with whom you want to spend one hour, couple days or the whole life.... So love and be loved!

Where to begin?

First it’s a stereotype that Ukrainian women are more beautiful than Russian women.

At some point physical beauty is a drawback, most guys would rather date a 7 with inner beauty and a warm personality than ice princess who is 8, 9 or 10.

If you lived USA as a man you would not bother with this question.

There’s an obesity epidemic; 65% of AW are obese. If you’re an average to good looking guy with a healthy body weight would you be happy with that or look elsewhere?

Poor appearance? When you see 200lb short woman in sweatpants in USA it’s not because she’s going to the gym, it’s because she’s too lazy to make any attempt whatsoever to dress nice and take pride in her appearance. Then there are the tattoos; it’s a nightmare.

Entitlement? My friend in CA says all they want to do is eat Bon Bon’s and expect the man to contribute everything, while running up his credit cards.

Piggy? I had two female roommates in college, both disgusting pigs. They did not contribute to cleaning the apt. and their rooms disaster zones.

Mental illness? The song “Baby it’s cold outside” used to be romantic. Now the guy must be trying to rape her, go figure.

No doubt they’d rather date a rapper who would refer to them as a bit*h and “ho”.

                   


                       
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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 08:09:23 PM »
"My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. " -Zhenya.

This comment can be partially true but also some of us cannot do much to change our surroundings. For example, a large city where I live in has an overabundance of men and a distinct shortage of women (in the 18-35 age range, i.e., child-bearing years), also has many poor/crime-ridden inner-city neighborhoods and is predominantly African American. So if you eliminate 50% of the female population in my city in addition to having a surplus of jobs that are dominated by men (for example IT, military, government, construction, etc.) then all of a sudden it can be very difficult for guys like myself who are naturally shy (introverted) and not looking for minority women to find a partner unless we lower our standards. Also, the few eligible white women who are around us realize that they are highly sought after and end up inflating their standards. So it is not uncommon for even "tall, dark, successful" guys with good careers to be dating women who are several points lower than them in terms of looks and career ambitions.

Due to my good career I have refused to leave my city but if I continue being single and pocketing only a handful of dates a year then as the saying go's "desperate times call for desperate measures" is one of the reasons why I have been looking overseas for several years now.

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2018, 12:40:35 AM »
Yes, I am 100% Ukrainian and if you look where the most beautiful women are, its definitely not Russia, but Ukraine,though. I have read a report on this but long ago so cant provide a link. It was a historical study. But the first question is why in general American men do not want their own women but FSU women? My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. Of course there are exceptions. And probably American men have stereotypes that we here can do anything for them and that he is buying a nurse. But that is not the case anymore. Ukrainian women became more independent and make their own choices in life now. And we have plenty of men here who know how to take care of a woman. We are very emotional and need real love. Just some girls are hunting for wealth. And statistics on happy marriages from dating agencies is very low. Just start to look around, maybe your love is just round the corner and you do not need to cross the oceans to find it. But indeed sometimes miracles happen and people find each other in different corners of the world. I like such an expression-there are no loving halves:there are people with whom you want to spend one hour, couple days or the whole life.... So love and be loved!

Where to begin?

First it’s a stereotype that Ukrainian women are more beautiful than Russian women.

At some point physical beauty is a drawback, most guys would rather date a 7 with inner beauty and a warm personality than ice princess who is 8, 9 or 10.

If you lived USA as a man you would not bother with this question.

There’s an obesity epidemic; 65% of AW are obese. If you’re an average to good looking guy with a healthy body weight would you be happy with that or look elsewhere?

Poor appearance? When you see 200lb short woman in sweatpants in USA it’s not because she’s going to the gym, it’s because she’s too lazy to make any attempt whatsoever to dress nice and take pride in her appearance. Then there are the tattoos; it’s a nightmare.

Entitlement? My friend in CA says all they want to do is eat Bon Bon’s and expect the man to contribute everything, while running up his credit cards.

Piggy? I had two female roommates in college, both disgusting pigs. They did not contribute to cleaning the apt. and their rooms disaster zones.

Mental illness? The song “Baby it’s cold outside” used to be romantic. Now the guy must be trying to rape her, go figure.

No doubt they’d rather date a rapper who would refer to them as a bit*h and “ho”.

                   
I didnt say that appearance is important. And its not a stereotype,just pure facts and statistics. I do not know American society at all but I think in general we all have common values but they differ  slightly of course due to mentality and national culture. Why then you dont educate your women to be beautiful?

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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2018, 12:48:42 AM »
"My personal thinking is that only those men who failed in their own surroundings, start to look around. " -Zhenya.

This comment can be partially true but also some of us cannot do much to change our surroundings. For example, a large city where I live in has an overabundance of men and a distinct shortage of women (in the 18-35 age range, i.e., child-bearing years), also has many poor/crime-ridden inner-city neighborhoods and is predominantly African American. So if you eliminate 50% of the female population in my city in addition to having a surplus of jobs that are dominated by men (for example IT, military, government, construction, etc.) then all of a sudden it can be very difficult for guys like myself who are naturally shy (introverted) and not looking for minority women to find a partner unless we lower our standards. Also, the few eligible white women who are around us realize that they are highly sought after and end up inflating their standards. So it is not uncommon for even "tall, dark, successful" guys with good careers to be dating women who are several points lower than them in terms of looks and career ambitions.

Due to my good career I have refused to leave my city but if I continue being single and pocketing only a handful of dates a year then as the saying go's "desperate times call for desperate measures" is one of the reasons why I have been looking overseas for several years now.

Thank you for your comments-now I am getting to understand why you have to make such a search. But I do not like that you put evrything in points and standards-what about real feelings-if you just look at him\her and understand that he\she is really your person despite how you look and what you do for living.

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2018, 12:55:24 AM »
Zhenya,

I'm going to give you a different example, one which I hope will make perfect sense.

Back in the 1970's it's safe to say that American car manufacturers had gotten lazy and were building cars which were no longer top quality, as well they were gas guzzlers.

Along came Volkswagen selling VW Beetles and Honda selling Civics and Accords. Very soon afterwards a sizeable portion of the American public fell in love with import cars, especially of the Japanese variety and begin to purchase them a lot.

Of course initially the American carmakers sqealed and complained that it wasn't fair and that patriotic Americans only purchased "made in America". Eventually they had to get their act together and make cars which were much better quality and which were also more fuel efficient.

I would say it took at least a decade for the American manufacturers to catch up to the Japanese and Europeans.

That's what is called a "global market", people like to be able to purchase what they want and from where.

It may sound crass but the reality is that dating and marriage is also a global market now. Men want women who are actually willing to contribute to a relationship in meaningful ways and ones who wish to commit and get married.

American Women and Western Women in general are bitching, moaning and kvetching about it; so sad, too bad.

They don't want to eat healthy, get in shape, dress like a lady or sometimes sexy (and I don't mean the sluts bouncing around, I mean the ones mentally healthy enough to commit) in order to attract a man, put away their lousy attitudes, etc.

They're at least a decade away and many men are practicing MGTOW and not interested in them at all. Thanks "feminism" for destroying romance! But seriously I think some men are really Masochists to date them....they just need to take the red pill.  :chuckle:
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I like your idea of free economics. Yes, its globalization era now and people can make choices which is actually good. But lets not call all AW and other women as you called them-there are always exceptions.

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Re: What do Russian Women Really Think About American Men?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2018, 02:13:29 AM »
I will survey 100 Russian women in the next 7 days and post all their answers here..

It will give you a true idea of what Russian women think about US men and not a few armchair opinions.. ;D
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2018, 02:41:56 AM »
That would be great Steve.  Maladetz! 

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That would be great Steve.  Maladetz!

Give me a few days and should be able to have  some good results.. :)
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2018, 04:07:53 AM »
Results are already coming in fast!

The question asked is " I have an American friend who says Ukrainian women and Russian women like American men, what is your view on this?"

A simple straight to the point question.. I should be able to publish the results within a few days ...

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2018, 05:51:15 AM »
Results are already coming in fast!

The question asked is " I have an American friend who says Ukrainian women and Russian women like American men, what is your view on this?"

A simple straight to the point question.. I should be able to publish the results within a few days ...

Perhaps you could also ask said women if they ever have met face to face an American man?
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2018, 06:22:15 AM »
Asking whether respondents have met an American is hardly germane. Most people will not have met an American, but if they have, they will have met one! The question is about the generality, about prejudice and opinion, about the mass of Americans, not the single representative of the group that does not signify the group.
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