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Offline justadude

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Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« on: November 17, 2018, 08:49:34 PM »
I have been doing a little reading on I-864 and I find it to be troubling if not terrifying. By signing this binding document, which is essentially a contract between you and the federal government, you agree to support the beneficiary for life at 125% of the poverty level. Yes you read that right. There are a few specific things which can absolve you of this responsibility, most notably the beneficiary decides to abandon residency status or the beneficiary works for 10 years. However, the beneficiary is obligated to do neither. It is not like normal alimony where you can have imputed income or other court ordered motivation to have the person work.

 

I have read reports that say this is not enforced very often but further reading seems to suggest that enforcement is on the rise. Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge of this? I read a blog by a sponsor was very worried that it was going to be enforced on him. Have you been on either end of an enforced I-864? If so, can you detail what happened? I appreciate other comments but firsthand knowledge is so valuable. 

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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 08:57:53 PM »
If you don't like the  I-864, don't sponsor someone.  Bring them in illegally. I think every alien that enters the USA should be required to have a sponsor. If you are not willing to sign one for your future wife then don't bring her here.
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 09:33:35 PM »

I have read reports that say this is not enforced very often but further reading seems to suggest that enforcement is on the rise. Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge of this? I read a blog by a sponsor was very worried that it was going to be enforced on him. Have you been on either end of an enforced I-864?


Everybody in America who brings a spouse over signs an I-864. It's not enforced often but chances are, your alimony to your ex will be longer and greater than normal since English is her second language and she's probably not very employable.

There's a certain amount of risk to marrying any woman. If the risk outweighs the rewards, then you shouldn't marry the woman.



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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2018, 03:02:37 AM »
If you are concerned about taking responsibility for this woman then don't do it.
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2018, 04:31:52 AM »
Why don't you just find a women in the USA????
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2018, 07:05:46 AM »
You worried about her taking you to the cleaners  :chuckle:

You want to worry how much the remodelling of the house, the buying of clothes for her, plus all the other woman's needs in the first 0-12 months of having your honey there with you matey

Way more than your expecting  :chuckle:

Now stop being a prize DICK and man up  :'(
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2018, 10:39:28 AM »
These responses illustrate how difficult it is to get a relevant answer to a specific question without emotions getting involved on RUA. Perhaps it's because this forum is primarily about male-female relationships, which are inherently emotional. Then again, I've experienced it on automotive enthusiast forums as well. (And yes, I'll admit I'm guilty of trolling when the flaming gets rediculous)

Still, it's hard for me to imagine getting emotionally involved in the affairs of someone I've never met in person. I'm fascinated by this.

But back to the question. I'm hoping to find input from someone who's actually signed an I-864. Since some of the respondents are married, presumably you have, unless you're not American or your spouse is not yet living in the states.

Anyone?

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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2018, 10:49:26 AM »
These responses illustrate how difficult it is to get a relevant answer to a specific question without emotions getting involved on RUA. Perhaps it's because this forum is primarily about male-female relationships, which are inherently emotional. Then again, I've experienced it on automotive enthusiast forums as well. (And yes, I'll admit I'm guilty of trolling when the flaming gets rediculous)

Still, it's hard for me to imagine getting emotionally involved in the affairs of someone I've never met in person. I'm fascinated by this.

But back to the question. I'm hoping to find input from someone who's actually signed an I-864. Since some of the respondents are married, presumably you have, unless you're not American or your spouse is not yet living in the states.

Anyone?


You are correct. Every American that has sponsored a foreign spouse has filled out an I-864 form or had someone else sponsor the person.  My first wife was foreign and my current wife was foreign.  So, yes, I have filled one of them out before.  What is your problem with it?
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2018, 11:14:55 AM »
His problem is that she'll break up with him and he'll have to pay support again and be broke.  Simply money.

justadude better to end it now. you aren't in any frame of mind to be getting married let alone dating.  you just want all the goodie but none of the work.

that you are asking about prenups and affidavits so late shows you are not prepared.  this stuff should have been done ages ago.

Ask yourself how likely is this girl going to leave you if she doesn't get her way?  figure out the answer and act appropriately.

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Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2018, 11:22:27 AM »
But back to the question. I'm hoping to find input from someone who's actually signed an I-864. Since some of the respondents are married, presumably you have, unless you're not American or your spouse is not yet living in the states.

Anyone?

I signed it.

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(we've since moved away). She moved away from her family, friends, her country,
her culture, her language because she wanted to be my wife. It's a big commitment
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2018, 11:42:05 AM »
I signed it.

Most Americans do not know what an I-864 is. Most family court/divorce court judges don't know what an I-864 is. Most divorce lawyers don't know what an I-864 is. Chances are, nobody is going to make you honor your commitment to the I-864 you signed since most people don't know it exists.

In the event of a divorce, most judges may award a higher amount and longer lasting alimony if he/she feels your soon to be ex needs a longer time to adjust to the single life in a country she's not familiar with. That is where you will pay big and if your ex doesn't adjust to life with your money within the time a judge gives her, you can count on us, your fellow taxpayers, to take care of your mistake.

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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2018, 11:45:26 AM »
But back to the question. I'm hoping to find input from someone who's actually signed an I-864. Since some of the respondents are married, presumably you have, unless you're not American or your spouse is not yet living in the states.

Anyone?

I signed it.

I believe in my wife and she believed in me enough to move to North Dakota
(we've since moved away). She moved away from her family, friends, her country,
her culture, her language because she wanted to be my wife. It's a big commitment
and it's certainly not for everyone, but it was for me.



I couldn't agree with you more!  My  wife gave up the chair of a university department and her life long love of teaching to come to the USA to marry me.
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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2018, 12:07:44 PM »
I have not signed one but TBH I don’t think it’s a whole lot different than an American guy getting married to an American gal. If she’s a stay at home wife and mother who doesn’t work, in the event of a divorce he’s going to be ordered by a court to financially support her.

I think you should take a novel approach and stop thinking of negative “what if’s” and start thinking of positive what if’s.

Take some time and read about 2TallBill’s life since he got married and how he and his wife have made a life together. Sort of reminds me of the movie “It’s a wonderful life” but better because it’s real.

Then again 2Tall is totally dedicated to his wife, we haven’t seen that attitude of love and devotion out of you.

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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2018, 01:02:11 PM »
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Then again 2Tall is totally dedicated to his wife, we haven’t seen that attitude of love and devotion out of you.



exactly...you need to put in the effort and cater to her.  She's the one moving to a strange new country, not you.  About my translating I wish I could help more but as I said I am out of the area and my fee is probably too high for you.

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Re: Have you ever signed an I-864 affidavit of support?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2018, 01:09:00 PM »

I think you should take a novel approach and stop thinking of negative “what if’s” and start thinking of positive what if’s.

Take some time and read about 2TallBill’s life since he got married and how he and his wife have made a life together. Sort of reminds me of the movie “It’s a wonderful life” but better because it’s real.

Then again 2Tall is totally dedicated to his wife, we haven’t seen that attitude of love and devotion out of you.


JustaDude, For a while now you have spoken only about the risks, but never the rewards. Maybe an attitude adjustment is needed?
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