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Banking - Transferwise
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:53:41 PM »
Hello,

Has anyone here used Transferwise?  If so, do you have a borderless account with them or do you just use them to send money?


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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 09:30:06 PM »
Yes, yes, yes. The purpose of Transferwise is to send money.
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 09:59:48 PM »
I was thinking of using Transferwise as a piggy bank.  I will be travelling to Greece later this month, and then back to Ukraine at the end of the year.

My bank charges ATM fees and foreign transaction fees.  I was thinking of setting up a borderless account and use their debit Mastercard while in Greece or other EU countries.  When in Ukraine I could transfer funds to my fiance's account or see about opening my own account there.

Any thoughts?  Or do you recommend opening a regular account at an international bank like Raiffeisen?





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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 11:05:50 PM »
I was thinking of using Transferwise as a piggy bank.  I will be travelling to Greece later this month, and then back to Ukraine at the end of the year.

My bank charges ATM fees and foreign transaction fees.  I was thinking of setting up a borderless account and use their debit Mastercard while in Greece or other EU countries.  When in Ukraine I could transfer funds to my fiance's account or see about opening my own account there.

Any thoughts?  Or do you recommend opening a regular account at an international bank like Raiffeisen?

They use a system akin to computers ( peer to peer exchange)

If you need to exchange USD for Euro - they match someone else doing the opposite.. Your USD don't leave your country and vice versa - hence cheaper

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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 11:08:02 PM »
Re the Raiffeisen - my personal experience of them is if a subsidiary of theirs makes a HUGE, costly mistake  - they do not give a ... but when you bring the banking ombudsman in - miracles happen - but they lost our biz,,, NOT to be trusted IMHO 

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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 11:23:38 PM »
I think its best to just stick to a debit card.. me personally couldn't be bothered with all the hassle do a transfer here, transfer there, making sure it all worked and all that..

I would just rather pay the small fee at the ATM and get on with things..
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2018, 02:10:54 AM »
Where are you going in Greece?

Wherever you go there are plenty of ATM machines around and you can choose the English language to follow instructions. As Steve said... use your debit card and don't bother opening accounts etc..... even using cash you have to change to Euro anyway..... and pay the difference.

Small advice: Always have cash in your pocket as many restaurants or shops do not take cards... (will tell you that internet is not working to avoid paying tax. Very old Trick).

At the shops, they will take any currency in Cash.....to make a sale.
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2018, 02:31:44 AM »
No. Transferwise does not work here and within europe there are no fees with my bank

Transferwise is expensive as well. 10 euro for a 1000 euro transfer
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2018, 02:36:53 AM »
No. Transferwise does not work here and within europe there are no fees with my bank

????  Transferwise  works everywhere - perhaps not in Crimea - but just change your IP address

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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2018, 02:50:39 AM »
Its really weird!! I have never made transfer in the last 15 years..  :eeekk:
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2018, 04:47:37 AM »
Mark, where doesn't Transferwise work?
Where do you send money with such a high fee? It isn't, for example Euro/Ruble. Also, when considering the fee one should look at the rate. When you use your bank for 'free' what is the margin on the conversion? For ease Transferwise uses the midmarket rate and that's a much better deal than most consumer level clients will get elsewhere.

For those unaware, the company sends money from one currency to another. They do so quite quickly and cheaply.

It is not for sending money within a single currency area, although in some cases it can be done.

If you want a debit card you can have one. Some ATM withdrawals are free but others have charges.

The ideal use case for the Borderless Account is probably a person, or business, receiving money in various currencies and wishing to be able to easily manage those balances and with low friction move the money to where it is needed, both denominationally and geographically.

As an ideal use case client I find the service to be very useful, cost-effective and convenient. I am certain that one could find aspects of the service done cheaper elsewhere but I have yet to see a competitor offering a better deal overall and, in most cases, those other options are likely not available to most readers of this thread for regulatory reasons. Transferwise have jumped through the hoops to allow most people to access the services they offer.
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2018, 05:06:53 AM »
You might try revolut

They do ever changing virtual debit cards and actual ones...

A friend I recommended to Transferwise got fed up when trying to open an account for his non EU wife and just opened an account with them

Too early to tell how he is fairing

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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2018, 07:05:29 AM »
For anyone with a foreign partner there are two (sometimes 3) banking regulation/laws that must be met.

The depositors countries laws as one and the recipients countries laws as two.

The easiest, fastest and in fact not expensive banking system is MoneyGram followed by Western Union. A while back I looked at TransferWise and both I and Julia had issues with it.

If there is a long term commitment to a partner than obtaining a debit card that works in the country of residency of said partner is the way to go. It stands to reason the remitter/sender has a enough contact with the bank to obtain such a debit card for the recipient.

The 3rd set of laws is if said party travels to a third country.
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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2018, 07:22:32 AM »
I found out about and used Transferwise to send money to a friend in Poland for a sailboat rental this month in Greece.  It had the lowest rate for money transfer that I found - less than 1% - along with a good conversion rate.

Perhaps for Greece I will take cash and convert to Euro or use my bank debit card. 

I am planning to stay in Ukraine for 2 months at the end of the year.  I am wondering whether I should open the transferwise borderless account or a local bank account in Ukraine with an international bank (or backed by an international bank).  I would still need to transfer money to the local account, so I thought to skip opening the local account and transfer money to my fiance's account.  My concern there is if she wises up and kicks me out.  :P

Wiz, I will send you a PM about my Greece trip. 




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Re: Banking - Transferwise
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2018, 07:25:37 AM »
AvHdB

Of you think MG or WU are faster and or cheaper than giving your loved one a debit card that us designed for foreign use you are VERY mistaken.

Please pay attention to the OPs Q and you will learn something to your benefit