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Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« on: March 25, 2018, 03:39:48 PM »
Terrible tragedy with so many children involved.

https://youtu.be/E8kFI6pJx68
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2018, 06:13:15 AM »
Awful, hearing about non-functioning fire extinguishers and locked fire exits.

Such scant regard for human life, third world state....
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2018, 06:17:43 AM »
Awful, hearing about non-functioning fire extinguishers and locked fire exits.

Such scant regard for human life, third world state....

I guess the UK is one, too -after Grenfell


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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2018, 07:32:38 AM »
Sad to hear about this. Apparently this mall featured a zoo... quite family / child oriented. Hope they find all the missing.
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2018, 08:00:33 AM »
Awful, hearing about non-functioning fire extinguishers and locked fire exits.

Such scant regard for human life, third world state....
I once remember a HUGE production plant owned by Lucent in Huizen/Netherlands.

It had clearly marked yellow lines on the floor, I asked what they were.

"Escape plan" lines sir, just follow the line and you should reach emergency exits nearest to you soon.

Me: So why is this huge machine bolted to the floor right on top of it & the emergency exit locked?

The plant is too small , we're using space where we can.

Morale of the story:
Don't blame the state or upper management for poor decisions of lower management / city workers.
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 08:32:28 AM »
Awful, hearing about non-functioning fire extinguishers and locked fire exits.

Such scant regard for human life, third world state....
I once remember a HUGE production plant owned by Lucent in Huizen/Netherlands.

It had clearly marked yellow lines on the floor, I asked what they were.

"Escape plan" lines sir, just follow the line and you should reach emergency exits nearest to you soon.

Me: So why is this huge machine bolted to the floor right on top of it & the emergency exit locked?

The plant is too small , we're using space where we can.

Morale of the story:
Don't blame the state or upper management for poor decisions of lower management / city workers.

Thats a good thing about UK - some people see it has health and safety madness, espevially the Tories who want to reduce it as its eating into their massive profits, look at Greenfell.

In Russia i was nearly sucked into a jet engine, you could just walk under the wing. I was running to board, last one on, dicked me about for 150 rbls of excess baggage, still got the reams of paperwork i was given, that alone must have cost more than 3 quid



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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 10:13:59 AM »
Awful, hearing about non-functioning fire extinguishers and locked fire exits.

Such scant regard for human life, third world state....
I once remember a HUGE production plant owned by Lucent in Huizen/Netherlands.

It had clearly marked yellow lines on the floor, I asked what they were.

"Escape plan" lines sir, just follow the line and you should reach emergency exits nearest to you soon.

Me: So why is this huge machine bolted to the floor right on top of it & the emergency exit locked?

The plant is too small , we're using space where we can.

Morale of the story:
Don't blame the state or upper management for poor decisions of lower management / city workers.

Thats a good thing about UK - some people see it has health and safety madness, espevially the Tories who want to reduce it as its eating into their massive profits, look at Greenfell.

In Russia i was nearly sucked into a jet engine, you could just walk under the wing. I was running to board, last one on, dicked me about for 150 rbls of excess baggage, still got the reams of paperwork i was given, that alone must have cost more than 3 quid



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I think you're being a tad too extreme here Ste.

I wouldn't describe Russia as being a 3rd world state with scant regard for human life. I suspect this is more about a lack of civil servants with a bit of clout and a culture lacking a bit of education in healthy & safety. Unless its drummed into you, people given a free reign always expect bad stuff to happen to other people. Hopefully this is a wake up call and lessons are learned in Russia.

I could give you many examples about how pathetic, ridiculous and resource draining our PC/H&S culture has become in the UK. I'd sound a bit silly blaming it all on Labour though.

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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2018, 04:42:44 AM »
As expected, the normal reaction to such an atrocity has taken place in Russia. This suggests that Russians do in fact value life, as we do in the West.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-43552165

Russian crowd condemns officials over disaster, as people rallied outside local government buildings seeking justice.

Is this more 3rd world than say Greenfell?

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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2018, 10:20:09 AM »
Now Russian crowds demand Putin’s resignation..

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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2018, 03:45:57 PM »
Now Russian crowds demand Putin’s resignation..



Wishful thinking of the west. This protest wasnt about putin at all, but of course 1 nutjob asks for putins resignation and all of the sudden everyone here was.... ummm nope
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2018, 04:11:01 PM »
My wife thinks that this is  a shining example of capitalism at its best
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2018, 12:27:07 AM »
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“They took three minutes — three f---ing minutes! — to put on their masks,” Lillevyali said, with tears in his eyes.

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“They told me: Can’t do it. Everything has to be according to regulations,” Lillevyali recalled. “My girls were left to burn because of the g-----m regulations.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/deadly-fire-in-russian-shopping-mall-kills-64-many-of-them-children/2018/03/26/ee105122-30d2-11e8-8abc-22a366b72f2d_story.html

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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2018, 01:59:05 AM »
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“They took three minutes — three f---ing minutes! — to put on their masks,” Lillevyali said, with tears in his eyes.

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“They told me: Can’t do it. Everything has to be according to regulations,” Lillevyali recalled. “My girls were left to burn because of the g-----m regulations.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/deadly-fire-in-russian-shopping-mall-kills-64-many-of-them-children/2018/03/26/ee105122-30d2-11e8-8abc-22a366b72f2d_story.html
However sad that may be, firefighters will rescue noone if they die themselves because of ignoring regulations.
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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2018, 02:13:07 AM »
Now Russian crowds demand Putin’s resignation..



That’s hilarious. If I’m not mistaken, that’s the BBC’s font?

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Re: Shopping center fire in southern Russia.
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2018, 06:04:05 AM »
Now Russian crowds demand Putin’s resignation..



That’s hilarious. If I’m not mistaken, that’s the BBC’s font?

Reported elsewhere as well.

Some even saying it was deliberate to deflect away from the hole Putin is digging for himself.


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